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Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-18 Thread Gerardo Corripio

And for the SE, both 1st and 2nd Generation? I’ve always been curious of this 
info.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 18 sep 2021, a la(s) 9:25 a.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> 
> I found this list through the 12 series of the MAH of each model.  It is 
> listed according to the size of the battery.  Interesting stuff and the 13’s 
> are supposed to have better battery usage because of the new chip, etc.
> Apple iPhone 7: 1960 mAh
> Apple iPhone 12 mini: 2227 mAh
> Apple iPhone XS: 2658 mAh
> Apple iPhone 8 Plus: 2691 mAh
> Apple iPhone X: 2716 mAh
> Apple iPhone 6s Plus: 2750 mAh (Li-Polymer)
> Apple iPhone 7 Plus: 2900 mAh
> Apple iPhone 6 Plus: 2915 mAh (Li-Polymer)
> Apple iPhone XR: 2942 mAh
> Apple iPhone 11: 3110 mAh
> Apple iPhone XS Max: 3174 mAh
> Apple iPhone 11 Pro: 3190 mAh
> Apple iPhone 11 Pro Max: 3500 mAh
> Apple iPhone 12 Pro Max: 3687 mAh
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> davycupp...@gmail.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 3:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> I believe the 10r still has the best battery autonomy maybe the iphone13 will 
> do better?
>  
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
> Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 23:37
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> As for the battery life, I think they compared the 13 pro to the 12 pro as an 
> hour more
> And the 13 pro max to the 12 pro max as and hour and a half more?
> Something like that.
>  
> I suspect the sound will be pretty much the same as the 12 series since they 
> are physically about the same, though I think the 13 pro max is a little 
> bigger.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> davycupp...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> I am curious about maybe better sound between the pro and pro max or better 
> battery between the pro and pro max.
>  
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
> Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:36
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
> rumors were wrong.
>  
> But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of 
> a surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads 
> being part of today’s event.
>  
> I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle 
> for taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.
> The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two 
> new iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture 
> taking when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
> iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
> Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.
>  
> I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini 
> sounds nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would 
> consider and neither is the iPhone 13.
> A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
> systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro 
> Motion display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this 
> is of little relevance.
>  
> I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
> iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
> don't think so.
>  
> Conclusion: no new

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-18 Thread Richard Turner

I found this list through the 12 series of the MAH of each model.  It is listed 
according to the size of the battery.  Interesting stuff and the 13’s are 
supposed to have better battery usage because of the new chip, etc.
Apple iPhone 7: 1960 mAh
Apple iPhone 12 mini: 2227 mAh
Apple iPhone XS: 2658 mAh
Apple iPhone 8 Plus: 2691 mAh
Apple iPhone X: 2716 mAh
Apple iPhone 6s Plus: 2750 mAh (Li-Polymer)
Apple iPhone 7 Plus: 2900 mAh
Apple iPhone 6 Plus: 2915 mAh (Li-Polymer)
Apple iPhone XR: 2942 mAh
Apple iPhone 11: 3110 mAh
Apple iPhone XS Max: 3174 mAh
Apple iPhone 11 Pro: 3190 mAh
Apple iPhone 11 Pro Max: 3500 mAh
Apple iPhone 12 Pro Max: 3687 mAh




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 3:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I believe the 10r still has the best battery autonomy maybe the iphone13 will 
do better?

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 23:37
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

As for the battery life, I think they compared the 13 pro to the 12 pro as an 
hour more
And the 13 pro max to the 12 pro max as and hour and a half more?
Something like that.

I suspect the sound will be pretty much the same as the 12 series since they 
are physically about the same, though I think the 13 pro max is a little bigger.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C380867bb7f8a48c3080408d97a932e20%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637675594824150375%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=WcbRq7AYfP5ACOgQWJ7tey5CMLVS0ed66wwTEvfXfPM%3D&reserved=0>


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com<mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I am curious about maybe better sound between the pro and pro max or better 
battery between the pro and pro max.

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:36
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
rumors were wrong.

But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of a 
surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads being 
part of today’s event.

I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle for 
taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.
The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two new 
iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture taking 
when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C380867bb7f8a48c3080408d97a932e20%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637675594824150375%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=WcbRq7AYfP5ACOgQWJ7tey5CMLVS0ed66wwTEvfXfPM%3D&reserved=0>


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-18 Thread davycuppens

I believe the 10r still has the best battery autonomy maybe the iphone13 will 
do better?

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 23:37
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

As for the battery life, I think they compared the 13 pro to the 12 pro as an 
hour more

And the 13 pro max to the 12 pro max as and hour and a half more?

Something like that.

 

I suspect the sound will be pretty much the same as the 12 series since they 
are physically about the same, though I think the 13 pro max is a little bigger.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

I am curious about maybe better sound between the pro and pro max or better 
battery between the pro and pro max.

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
 Namens Richard Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:36
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
rumors were wrong.

 

But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of a 
surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads being 
part of today’s event.

 

I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle for 
taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.

The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two new 
iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture taking 
when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb452611db49a4d71935f08d977c2ea19%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637672501311926383%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=wwZvmjmX5pbyZteA303YqGWMGNwEUUW6sFX%2F%2B28C22o%3D&reserved=0>
 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

 

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.

A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

 

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

 

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

 

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 🤣

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-18 Thread Frank Ventura

Wow now that is an awesome ring tone!

> On Sep 17, 2021, at 1:52 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> Simon,
> 
> How did you know I have a ringtone of Mötley Crüe’s   Kickstart My
> Heart as a ringtone? It starts with a guitar sounding like a
> motorcycle kickstart.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/16/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Here part of an article on 9to5Mac:
>> 
>> For 14 years, our partnership with (RED) has led to almost $250 million in
>> donations to fund HIV/AIDS treatment programs. Now through June 30, Apple is
>> working with (RED) to redirect 100 percent of eligible proceeds from
>> (PRODUCT)RED purchases to the Global Fund’s COVID‑19 Response. This will
>> provide critical support to health systems most threatened by the outbreak
>> and, in turn, help preserve lifesaving HIV/AIDS programs in sub-Saharan
>> Africa.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon
>> A Fogarty
>> Sent: September 16, 2021 5:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>> 
>> Is it covid 19
>> I thought it was toward  aids research.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne
>> Merritt
>> Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 7:25 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>> 
>> All due respect to fashion, but if you get a red phone, you are now
>> contributing 10% of the purchase price to fighting the global Covid-19
>> pandemic. That was why I got a red iPhone 11 last year.
>> 
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>> 
>> On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> Oh yes, to my delight, I read the sky blue - F I N E!
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:03 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>> 
>>> Carolyn,
>>> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is
>>> a light Sky Blue...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>> it.”
>>> – Jane Wagner
>>> 
>>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Carolyn
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>> 
>>> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>> 
>>> Simon,
>>> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
>>> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their
>>> colors, she says, are in the pastel hews.
>>> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>>> 
>>> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
>>> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
>>> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>> it.”
>>> – Jane Wagner
>>> 
>>> My Web site:
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>>> urner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%
>>> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnkn
>>> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
>>> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1q
>>> uf4%2BI%3D&reserved=0
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Simon A Fogar

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-17 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Hi Kelly,

Hey with the hacks that are out,

I might be watching you! Rotfl 

But really, couldn't you have used meatloafs bat out of hell?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Saturday, 18 September 2021 5:53 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Simon,

How did you know I have a ringtone of Mötley Crüe’s   Kickstart My
Heart as a ringtone? It starts with a guitar sounding like a motorcycle 
kickstart.

Kelly



On 9/16/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Here part of an article on 9to5Mac:
>
> For 14 years, our partnership with (RED) has led to almost $250 
> million in donations to fund HIV/AIDS treatment programs. Now through 
> June 30, Apple is working with (RED) to redirect 100 percent of 
> eligible proceeds from (PRODUCT)RED purchases to the Global Fund’s 
> COVID‑19 Response. This will provide critical support to health 
> systems most threatened by the outbreak and, in turn, help preserve 
> lifesaving HIV/AIDS programs in sub-Saharan Africa.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: September 16, 2021 5:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Is it covid 19
> I thought it was toward  aids research.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 7:25 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> All due respect to fashion, but if you get a red phone, you are now 
> contributing 10% of the purchase price to fighting the global Covid-19 
> pandemic. That was why I got a red iPhone 11 last year.
>
> Kindly,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> Oh yes, to my delight, I read the sky blue - F I N E!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:03 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> Carolyn,
>> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue 
>> is a light Sky Blue...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it.”
>> – Jane Wagner
>>
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> Simon,
>> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
>> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their 
>> colors, she says, are in the pastel hews.
>> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>>
>> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
>> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
>> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it.”
>> – Jane Wagner
>>
>> My Web site:
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>> t 
>> urner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867
>> % 
>> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnk
>> n 
>> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWw
>> i 
>> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1
>> q
>> uf4%2BI%3D&reserved=0
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> What is  the sierra blue?
>

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-17 Thread Kelly Pierce

Simon,

How did you know I have a ringtone of Mötley Crüe’s   Kickstart My
Heart as a ringtone? It starts with a guitar sounding like a
motorcycle kickstart.

Kelly



On 9/16/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Here part of an article on 9to5Mac:
>
> For 14 years, our partnership with (RED) has led to almost $250 million in
> donations to fund HIV/AIDS treatment programs. Now through June 30, Apple is
> working with (RED) to redirect 100 percent of eligible proceeds from
> (PRODUCT)RED purchases to the Global Fund’s COVID‑19 Response. This will
> provide critical support to health systems most threatened by the outbreak
> and, in turn, help preserve lifesaving HIV/AIDS programs in sub-Saharan
> Africa.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon
> A Fogarty
> Sent: September 16, 2021 5:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Is it covid 19
> I thought it was toward  aids research.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne
> Merritt
> Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 7:25 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> All due respect to fashion, but if you get a red phone, you are now
> contributing 10% of the purchase price to fighting the global Covid-19
> pandemic. That was why I got a red iPhone 11 last year.
>
> Kindly,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> Oh yes, to my delight, I read the sky blue - F I N E!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:03 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> Carolyn,
>> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is
>> a light Sky Blue...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>> it.”
>> – Jane Wagner
>>
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> Simon,
>> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
>> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their
>> colors, she says, are in the pastel hews.
>> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>>
>> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
>> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
>> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>> it.”
>> – Jane Wagner
>>
>> My Web site:
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>> urner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%
>> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnkn
>> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
>> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1q
>> uf4%2BI%3D&reserved=0
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> What is  the sierra blue?
>>
>> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of
>> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Here part of an article on 9to5Mac:

For 14 years, our partnership with (RED) has led to almost $250 million in 
donations to fund HIV/AIDS treatment programs. Now through June 30, Apple is 
working with (RED) to redirect 100 percent of eligible proceeds from 
(PRODUCT)RED purchases to the Global Fund’s COVID‑19 Response. This will 
provide critical support to health systems most threatened by the outbreak and, 
in turn, help preserve lifesaving HIV/AIDS programs in sub-Saharan Africa.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: September 16, 2021 5:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Is it covid 19
I thought it was toward  aids research.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 7:25 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

All due respect to fashion, but if you get a red phone, you are now 
contributing 10% of the purchase price to fighting the global Covid-19 
pandemic. That was why I got a red iPhone 11 last year.

Kindly,
Wayne Merritt

On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Oh yes, to my delight, I read the sky blue - F I N E!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Carolyn,
> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is 
> a light Sky Blue...
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Simon,
> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their 
> colors, she says, are in the pastel hews.
> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>
> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1q
> uf4%2BI%3D&reserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> What is  the sierra blue?
>
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of 
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710084814%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tno%2BTEYJ8H7lq3iMuJd84Ay2pao%2B%2FSMU
> hhK3JWQGjX4%3D&reserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesd

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-16 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Kelly,

I hope the new phones don't sound like ahrleys 

That would be off putting some what.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 4:09 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

The blue for the regular iPhone and the mini paired with a black leather case 
reminds me of rugged men on motorcycles wearing black leather jackets and blue 
jeans.  It will be either a blue or Midnight for me. My iPhone 7 is black and I 
am a Nia list so black goes with my personality.

Kelly




On 9/16/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Carolyn,
> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is 
> a light Sky Blue...
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Simon,
> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their 
> colors, she says, are in the pastel hews.
> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>
> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1q
> uf4%2BI%3D&reserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> What is  the sierra blue?
>
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of 
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710084814%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tno%2BTEYJ8H7lq3iMuJd84Ay2pao%2B%2FSMU
> hhK3JWQGjX4%3D&reserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be ha

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-16 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Is it covid 19 
I thought it was toward  aids research.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 7:25 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

All due respect to fashion, but if you get a red phone, you are now 
contributing 10% of the purchase price to fighting the global Covid-19 
pandemic. That was why I got a red iPhone 11 last year.

Kindly,
Wayne Merritt

On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Oh yes, to my delight, I read the sky blue - F I N E!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Carolyn,
> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is 
> a light Sky Blue...
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Simon,
> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their 
> colors, she says, are in the pastel hews.
> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>
> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1q
> uf4%2BI%3D&reserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> What is  the sierra blue?
>
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of 
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710084814%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tno%2BTEYJ8H7lq3iMuJd84Ay2pao%2B%2FSMU
> hhK3JWQGjX4%3D&reserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>&

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-16 Thread Wayne Merritt

All due respect to fashion, but if you get a red phone, you are now
contributing 10% of the purchase price to fighting the global Covid-19
pandemic. That was why I got a red iPhone 11 last year.

Kindly,
Wayne Merritt

On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Oh yes, to my delight, I read the sky blue - F I N E!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Carolyn,
> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is a
> light Sky Blue...
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Simon,
> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their colors, she
> says, are in the pastel hews.
> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>
> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1quf4%2BI%3D&reserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> What is  the sierra blue?
>
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710084814%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tno%2BTEYJ8H7lq3iMuJd84Ay2pao%2B%2FSMUhhK3JWQGjX4%3D&reserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly
> Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear,
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-16 Thread Carolyn

Oh yes, to my delight, I read the sky blue - F I N E! 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Carolyn,
IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is a light 
Sky Blue...





Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I was hoping the blue was sky blue. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Simon,
You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their colors, she 
says, are in the pastel hews.  
It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.

The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue. Interesting 
they don't make up a name for the regular blue...






Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1quf4%2BI%3D&reserved=0


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

What is  the sierra blue?

Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of colours 
but it's not one I've heard of before.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

How about Sierra Blue?




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710084814%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tno%2BTEYJ8H7lq3iMuJd84Ay2pao%2B%2FSMUhhK3JWQGjX4%3D&reserved=0


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. I 
would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and 
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-16 Thread Kelly Pierce

The blue for the regular iPhone and the mini paired with a black
leather case reminds me of rugged men on motorcycles wearing black
leather jackets and blue jeans.  It will be either a blue or Midnight
for me. My iPhone 7 is black and I am a Nia list so black goes with my
personality.

Kelly




On 9/16/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Carolyn,
> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is a
> light Sky Blue...
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Simon,
> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their colors, she
> says, are in the pastel hews.
> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>
> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1quf4%2BI%3D&reserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> What is  the sierra blue?
>
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710084814%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tno%2BTEYJ8H7lq3iMuJd84Ay2pao%2B%2FSMUhhK3JWQGjX4%3D&reserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly
> Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear,
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to
>>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it
>>> turned into update to

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-16 Thread Richard Turner

Carolyn,
IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is a light 
Sky Blue...





Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I was hoping the blue was sky blue. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Simon,
You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their colors, she 
says, are in the pastel hews.  
It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.

The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue. Interesting 
they don't make up a name for the regular blue...






Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1quf4%2BI%3D&reserved=0


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

What is  the sierra blue?

Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of colours 
but it's not one I've heard of before.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

How about Sierra Blue?




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710084814%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tno%2BTEYJ8H7lq3iMuJd84Ay2pao%2B%2FSMUhhK3JWQGjX4%3D&reserved=0


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. I 
would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and 
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>> getting!
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>> from past beha

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-16 Thread Carolyn

I was hoping the blue was sky blue. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Simon,
You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their colors, she 
says, are in the pastel hews.  
It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.

The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue. Interesting 
they don't make up a name for the regular blue...






Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

What is  the sierra blue?

Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of colours 
but it's not one I've heard of before.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

How about Sierra Blue?




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C00a7d84b658446ed53ce08d9789b0fc1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673429650333402%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=9AGSgySavQsoGmiG31SkeSMZkVinNuzK84%2B4rYPpepQ%3D&reserved=0


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. I 
would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and 
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>> getting!
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first 
>>> day they will be in people’s hands.
>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe 
>>> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”
>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>
>>> My Web site: 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
>>> .turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856f
>>> 7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637673137189830576%
>>> 7CUnkn

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-16 Thread Carolyn

I would not want a red phone. I remember, when I had partial sight, and my aunt 
and uncle had a red on on their wall. This was in the 50's, when colored phones 
were not common, but I did not like the look of that red phone. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 6:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Yeah I spoke to apple about the s7 watch yesterday,

I asked what the star light colour was and she said that it's a cream type 
colour A combination between gold and silver.

Which is what Richard said yesterday.

Again a colour to attract the Asian / Chinese market who like the bling colours.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 4:42 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Thanks for that clarification - definitely makes sense for the starlight. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

My sighted wife, who is a quilter, says that Starlight is a creamy white color. 
 Think of the color of cream and that is pretty darn close.

That makes sense, because Starlight implies the color of the light coming from 
a star, right?

What I remember from my sighted first 12 years, camping in the mountains at 
around 8000 feet, when the stars seemed almost close enough to touch, cream is 
a good comparison for starlight.

She also said all the colors are pastels.

Their purple she said is a light lavender.  Pink, a lighter pink.  Space Gray a 
medium to light gray.

HTH,

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com> 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Richard,

Thanks 

But to me,

Gold is gold,

Starlight is what you see at night

And here in nz night is pretty dark but with sparkles.

Cheers.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

>From one web source it says about the colors:

The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.

First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to 
golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed these 
color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.

I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in 
respective order n\in that list.

Purple: azure blue

Pink: golden pink

Starlight: Gold

Space Gray: sidereal grey

HTH,

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C5a0167ae23e44c966cce08d977cd1a4f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637672545074630467%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=iu1gDtJdWcOvaPgCNQq77t0OVgQzBBfh4OK0zLpF9x8%3D&reserved=0>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

And usb-c will be a major bonus 

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting 

But can someone tell me,

What colour is star light?

I understand pink purple and space grey,

But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out 

Like a night sky.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com <mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Hi,

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-16 Thread Angie Nutt

I never use a case and don’t care about coordinating it with my clothing as 
it’s in  a bag when I’m out.

I can see a little; don’t know if I’d care about the colour if I couldn’t; 
doubt it though.

All the best
Angie


> On 15 Sep 2021, at 17:46, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> And by the time you stick your phone in a case which most of us do you don't 
> see much of the colour any more unless of course you use a clear case. Are 
> those of you who are so hung up on just the right colour that colour 
> coordinated with your clothing as well?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
> Pierce
> Sent: September 15, 2021 9:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
> 12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue from 
> the dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13 colors had a 
> pastel quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in the iPhone 12. It 
> would go great with a black leather iPhone case.  I want to learn more about 
> regular 13 blue. I am oscillating between blue and midnight.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> How about Sierra Blue?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> – Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>> 
>> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
>> black. I would be open to purple though.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> Angie
>>> 
>>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>>> will be getting!
>>>> 
>>>> Kindly,
>>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
>>>>> first day they will be in people’s hands.
>>>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
>>>>> safe to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>>> with it.”
>>>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>>> 
>>>>> My Web site:
>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?u

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-15 Thread lenron brown

If I could I would probably go for that Sierra blue. There is just no
way I am upgrading my watch and phone right now though. Right now I
have the normal blue watch and blue phone.

On 9/15/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Ok, that's a pastel blue from memory.
>
> Cheers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna
> Casteen
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 11:20 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Sierra blue is like a baby blue in hue.
>
> Donna
>
>>
>> What is  the sierra blue?
>>
>> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of
>> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> How about Sierra Blue?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
>> with it.” – Jane Wagner
>>
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new
>> black. I would be open to purple though.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours
>>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in
>>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope
>>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>>
>>> All the best
>>> Angie
>>>
>>>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and
>>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear,
>>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
>>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through
>>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall
>>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and
>>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully
>>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose
>>>> sensor.
>>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get
>>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new
>>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my
>>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new
>>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out
>>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I
>>>> will be getting!
>>>>
>>>> Kindly,
>>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>>
>>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume
>>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th
>>>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the
>>>>> first day they will be in people’s hands.
>>>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is
>>>>> safe to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
>>>>> with it.”
>>>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>>>
>>>>> My Web site:
>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
>>>>> w
>>>>> .turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856
>>>>> f
>>>>> 7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673137189830576
>>>>> %
>>>>>

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-15 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Ok, that's a pastel blue from memory.

Cheers.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 11:20 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Sierra blue is like a baby blue in hue.

Donna

> 
> What is  the sierra blue?
> 
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of 
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> How about Sierra Blue?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it.” – Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. 
> I would be open to purple though.
> 
> 
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>> will be getting!
>>> 
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>> 
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
>>>> first day they will be in people’s hands.
>>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
>>>> safe to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it.”
>>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>> 
>>>> My Web site: 
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
>>>> w 
>>>> .turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856
>>>> f 
>>>> 7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673137189830576
>>>> %
>>>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI
>>>> 6
>>>> Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1Dj5T%
>>>> 2
>>>> FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3D&reserved=0
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>> 
>>>> We did tune in a bit after the event started,

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-15 Thread Donna Casteen

Sierra blue is like a baby blue in hue.

Donna

> 
> What is  the sierra blue?
> 
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of 
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> How about Sierra Blue?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
> Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. 
> I would be open to purple though.
> 
> 
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and
>>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>>> getting!
>>> 
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>> 
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first 
>>>> day they will be in people’s hands.
>>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe 
>>>> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it.”
>>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>> 
>>>> My Web site: 
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
>>>> .turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856f
>>>> 7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673137189830576%
>>>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6
>>>> Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1Dj5T%2
>>>> FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3D&reserved=0
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>> 
>>>> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 
>>>> 15 will be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid 
>>>> next week, but thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact 
>>>> date.
>>>> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this 
>>>> time, last year as well as this year I ju

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-15 Thread Richard Turner

Simon,
You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their colors, she 
says, are in the pastel hews.  
It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.

The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue. Interesting 
they don't make up a name for the regular blue...






Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

What is  the sierra blue?

Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of colours 
but it's not one I've heard of before.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

How about Sierra Blue?




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C00a7d84b658446ed53ce08d9789b0fc1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673429650333402%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=9AGSgySavQsoGmiG31SkeSMZkVinNuzK84%2B4rYPpepQ%3D&reserved=0


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. I 
would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and 
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>> getting!
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first 
>>> day they will be in people’s hands.
>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe 
>>> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”
>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>
>>> My Web site: 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
>>> .turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856f
>>> 7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637673137189830576%
>>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6
>>> Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1Dj5T%2
>>> FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3D&reserved=0
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Si

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-15 Thread Simon A Fogarty

What is  the sierra blue?

Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of colours 
but it's not one I've heard of before.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

How about Sierra Blue?




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. I 
would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and 
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>> getting!
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first 
>>> day they will be in people’s hands.
>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe 
>>> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”
>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>
>>> My Web site: 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
>>> .turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856f
>>> 7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637673137189830576%
>>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6
>>> Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1Dj5T%2
>>> FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3D&reserved=0
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 
>>> 15 will be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid 
>>> next week, but thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact 
>>> date.
>>> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this 
>>> time, last year as well as this year I just had no time to 
>>> potentially deal with public beta issues since I only have one 
>>> device and I need it to function and I am curious to read the final 
>>> verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues still are in iOS 
>>> 15 before I upgrade.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On 
>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
>&g

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-15 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Yeah I spoke to apple about the s7 watch yesterday,

I asked what the star light colour was and she said that it's a cream type 
colour 
A combination between gold and silver.

Which is what Richard said yesterday.

Again a colour to attract the Asian / Chinese market who like the bling colours.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 4:42 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Thanks for that clarification - definitely makes sense for the starlight. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

My sighted wife, who is a quilter, says that Starlight is a creamy white color. 
 Think of the color of cream and that is pretty darn close.

That makes sense, because Starlight implies the color of the light coming from 
a star, right?

What I remember from my sighted first 12 years, camping in the mountains at 
around 8000 feet, when the stars seemed almost close enough to touch, cream is 
a good comparison for starlight.

 

She also said all the colors are pastels.

Their purple she said is a light lavender.  Pink, a lighter pink.  Space Gray a 
medium to light gray.

 

 

HTH,

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com> 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

Richard,

 

Thanks 

But to me,

Gold is gold,

Starlight is what you see at night

And here in nz night is pretty dark but with sparkles.

 

Cheers.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

>From one web source it says about the colors:

The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.

First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to 
golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed these 
color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.

I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in 
respective order n\in that list.

Purple: azure blue

Pink: golden pink

Starlight: Gold

Space Gray: sidereal grey

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C5a0167ae23e44c966cce08d977cd1a4f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637672545074630467%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=iu1gDtJdWcOvaPgCNQq77t0OVgQzBBfh4OK0zLpF9x8%3D&reserved=0>
 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

 

And usb-c will be a major bonus 

 

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting 

 

But can someone tell me,

 

What colour is star light?

 

I understand pink purple and space grey,

But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out 

Like a night sky.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com <mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

Hi,

 

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after to

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-15 Thread Gerardo Corripio

I’m trying to remember but my IPHone 5S, and SE 1st Generation were Space Gray. 
This SE 2nd Generation, I wanted it Space Gray too, but they only had it in 
Product Red, but have a black case for it.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 15 sep 2021, a la(s) 5:42 p.m., Simon A Fogarty  
> escribió:
> 
> I always get space grey or black,
> 
> Then put a wallet case around it
> 
> To keep cards and things in there as well as great protection.
> 
> And yeah I guess I pretty much wear black or dark colours all the time. Or 
> most of the time.
> 
> But that's more it's just easy to accessorise if I knew what to accessorise 
> with.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 4:46 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> And by the time you stick your phone in a case which most of us do you don't 
> see much of the colour any more unless of course you use a clear case. Are 
> those of you who are so hung up on just the right colour that colour 
> coordinated with your clothing as well?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
> Pierce
> Sent: September 15, 2021 9:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
> 12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue from 
> the dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13 colors had a 
> pastel quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in the iPhone 12. It 
> would go great with a black leather iPhone case.  I want to learn more about 
> regular 13 blue. I am oscillating between blue and midnight.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> How about Sierra Blue?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> – Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>> 
>> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
>> black. I would be open to purple though.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> Angie
>>> 
>>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>>> will be getting!
>>>> 
>>>> Kindly,
>>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by Septe

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-15 Thread Simon A Fogarty

I always get space grey or black,

Then put a wallet case around it

To keep cards and things in there as well as great protection.

And yeah I guess I pretty much wear black or dark colours all the time. Or most 
of the time.

But that's more it's just easy to accessorise if I knew what to accessorise 
with.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 4:46 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

And by the time you stick your phone in a case which most of us do you don't 
see much of the colour any more unless of course you use a clear case. Are 
those of you who are so hung up on just the right colour that colour 
coordinated with your clothing as well?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: September 15, 2021 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue from the 
dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13 colors had a pastel 
quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in the iPhone 12. It would go 
great with a black leather iPhone case.  I want to learn more about regular 13 
blue. I am oscillating between blue and midnight.

Kelly



On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>> will be getting!
>>>
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
>>>> first day they will be in people’s hands.
>>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
>>>> safe to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it.”
>>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>>
>>>> My Web site:
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
>>>> w.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d9785
>>>> 6f7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6376731371898305
>>

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-15 Thread Simon A Fogarty

The SE comes in white red and black,

One of the 13 models has  a silver I believe 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 5:01 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I have a turquoise case for my black 11. Back when I had a rose gold phone, I 
had a transparent case. I do like colored phones - would like to have white, 
gold, or silver next go, if it is available. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue from the 
dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13 colors had a pastel 
quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in the iPhone 12. It would go 
great with a black leather iPhone case.  I want to learn more about regular 13 
blue. I am oscillating between blue and midnight.

Kelly



On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>> will be getting!
>>>
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
>>>> first day they will be in people’s hands.
>>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
>>>> safe to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it.”
>>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>>
>>>> My Web site:
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
>>>> w.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d9785
>>>> 6f7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6376731371898305
>>>> 76%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB
>>>> TiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1D
>>>> j5T%2FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3D&reserved=0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-15 Thread Carolyn

I have a turquoise case for my black 11. Back when I had a rose gold phone, I 
had a transparent case. I do like colored phones - would like to have white, 
gold, or silver next go, if it is available. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue from the 
dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13 colors had a pastel 
quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in the iPhone 12. It would go 
great with a black leather iPhone case.  I want to learn more about regular 13 
blue. I am oscillating between blue and midnight.

Kelly



On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>> will be getting!
>>>
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
>>>> first day they will be in people’s hands.
>>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
>>>> safe to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it.”
>>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>>
>>>> My Web site:
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
>>>> w.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d9785
>>>> 6f7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6376731371898305
>>>> 76%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB
>>>> TiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1D
>>>> j5T%2FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3D&reserved=0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>>
>>>>

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-15 Thread Sabrina Markel

I’m totally happy with my IPhone 7 and don’t plan to upgrade anytime soon.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.

A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 🤣

Best regards,

Sieghard

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-15 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

And by the time you stick your phone in a case which most of us do you don't 
see much of the colour any more unless of course you use a clear case. Are 
those of you who are so hung up on just the right colour that colour 
coordinated with your clothing as well?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: September 15, 2021 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue from the 
dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13 colors had a pastel 
quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in the iPhone 12. It would go 
great with a black leather iPhone case.  I want to learn more about regular 13 
blue. I am oscillating between blue and midnight.

Kelly



On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>> will be getting!
>>>
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
>>>> first day they will be in people’s hands.
>>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
>>>> safe to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it.”
>>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>>
>>>> My Web site:
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
>>>> w.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d9785
>>>> 6f7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6376731371898305
>>>> 76%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB
>>>> TiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1D
>>>> j5T%2FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3D&reserved=0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>&

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-15 Thread Carolyn

Thanks for that clarification - definitely makes sense for the starlight. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

My sighted wife, who is a quilter, says that Starlight is a creamy white color. 
 Think of the color of cream and that is pretty darn close.

That makes sense, because Starlight implies the color of the light coming from 
a star, right?

What I remember from my sighted first 12 years, camping in the mountains at 
around 8000 feet, when the stars seemed almost close enough to touch, cream is 
a good comparison for starlight.

She also said all the colors are pastels.

Their purple she said is a light lavender.  Pink, a lighter pink.  Space Gray a 
medium to light gray.

HTH,

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com> 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Richard,

Thanks 

But to me,

Gold is gold,

Starlight is what you see at night

And here in nz night is pretty dark but with sparkles.

Cheers.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

>From one web source it says about the colors:

The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.

First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to 
golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed these 
color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.

I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in 
respective order n\in that list.

Purple: azure blue

Pink: golden pink

Starlight: Gold

Space Gray: sidereal grey

HTH,

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C5a0167ae23e44c966cce08d977cd1a4f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637672545074630467%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=iu1gDtJdWcOvaPgCNQq77t0OVgQzBBfh4OK0zLpF9x8%3D&reserved=0>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

And usb-c will be a major bonus 

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting 

But can someone tell me,

What colour is star light?

I understand pink purple and space grey,

But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out 

Like a night sky.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com <mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Hi,

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

Matthew

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac Rumors” put out that iOS15, and 
other software updates for Apple devices, would be launched MOnday, the 20th of 
September. I’m really looking forward to try out, especially the “Focus” 
feature!

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 14 sep 2021, a la(s) 3:08 p.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > escribió:

They did not mention a release date for iOS 15

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-15 Thread Kelly Pierce

Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue
from the dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13
colors had a pastel quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in
the iPhone 12. It would go great with a black leather iPhone case.  I
want to learn more about regular 13 blue. I am oscillating between
blue and midnight.

Kelly



On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly
> Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear,
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to
>>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it
>>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next
>>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her
>>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and
>>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4
>>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware
>>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the
>>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be
>>> getting!
>>>
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume
>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th
>>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first
>>>> day they will be in people’s hands.
>>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe
>>>> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>>> it.”
>>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>>
>>>> My Web site:
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856f7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673137189830576%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1Dj5T%2FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3D&reserved=0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>>
>>>> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15
>>>> will
>>>> be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week,
>>>> but
>>>> thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
>>>> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this
>>>> time,
>>>> last year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal
>>>> with
>>>> public beta issues since I only have one device and

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-15 Thread Richard Turner

How about Sierra Blue?




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. I 
would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch 
> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and 
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>> getting!
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  
>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first 
>>> day they will be in people’s hands.
>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe 
>>> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>> it.”
>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>
>>> My Web site: 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856f7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673137189830576%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1Dj5T%2FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3D&reserved=0
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15
>>> will
>>> be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week,
>>> but
>>> thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
>>> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time,
>>> last year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal
>>> with
>>> public beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to
>>> function
>>> and I am curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what
>>> the
>>> main issues still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just
>>> 1
>>> generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year
>>> increasingly is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than
&g

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-15 Thread Kelly Pierce

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new
black. I would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours when
> available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in pink. As it
> is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch 5 for another year
> at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope the pink mini doesn’t
> tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear,
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be
>> getting!
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from
>>> past
>>> behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new
>>> phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be
>>> in
>>> people’s hands.
>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to
>>> count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>> it.”
>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>
>>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15
>>> will
>>> be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week,
>>> but
>>> thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
>>> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time,
>>> last year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal
>>> with
>>> public beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to
>>> function
>>> and I am curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what
>>> the
>>> main issues still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just
>>> 1
>>> generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year
>>> increasingly is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than
>>> those who think they always have to have the latest.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>>> Sadam Ahmed
>>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
>>> I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in
>>> Australia
>>> and was not impressed.
>>> I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgradin

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-15 Thread Angie Nutt

Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours when 
available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in pink. As it is, 
I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch 5 for another year at 
least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. 
LOL

All the best
Angie

> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and
> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear,
> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through
> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to
> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it
> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next
> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her
> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and
> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4
> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware
> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the
> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be
> getting!
> 
> Kindly,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from past
>> behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new
>> phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be in
>> people’s hands.
>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to
>> count on the 24th at the latest.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> – Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>> 
>> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15 will
>> be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week, but
>> thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
>> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time,
>> last year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal with
>> public beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to function
>> and I am curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what the
>> main issues still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>> 
>> Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just 1
>> generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year
>> increasingly is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than
>> those who think they always have to have the latest.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Sadam Ahmed
>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>> 
>> That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
>> I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in Australia
>> and was not impressed.
>> I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading any
>> hardware this year.
>> Sincerely,
>> Sadam Mohamed Ahmed
>> 
>> On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel
>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>> 
>> We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an
>> iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an
>> Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.
>> 
>> I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini
>> sounds nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly is

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Kelly Pierce

Apple has to have some kind of gold color. The Chinese people
culturally are drawn to gold and highly value items in gold. China
currently is Apple’s biggest market and the company sells more iPhones
there now than in the United States. Yet, different iPhone series need
to look different so people can differentiate between a 12 and 13.
That’s why this year’s gold will look different from the iPhone 12
gold.

Kelly



On 9/14/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Interesting thought,
>
> I wouldn’t have thought of the star light as creamy coloured
> But that kind of fits with the gold colour you mentioned earlier.
>
> But yeah my recollection of stars is more like a silver twinkle
> But then hey I’ve never been over 3000 feet,
> But our skys might be a bit clearer than some of the skys around the USA.
>
>
> Thanks Richard,
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:51 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> My sighted wife, who is a quilter, says that Starlight is a creamy white
> color.  Think of the color of cream and that is pretty darn close.
> That makes sense, because Starlight implies the color of the light coming
> from a star, right?
> What I remember from my sighted first 12 years, camping in the mountains at
> around 8000 feet, when the stars seemed almost close enough to touch, cream
> is a good comparison for starlight.
>
> She also said all the colors are pastels.
> Their purple she said is a light lavender.  Pink, a lighter pink.  Space
> Gray a medium to light gray.
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Richard,
>
> Thanks
> But to me,
> Gold is gold,
> Starlight is what you see at night
> And here in nz night is pretty dark but with sparkles.
>
> Cheers.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:10 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> From one web source it says about the colors:
> [Apple iPad mini 6th]The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.
> First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to
> golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed
> these color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.
> I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in
> respective order n\in that list.
> Purple: azure blue
> Pink: golden pink
> Starlight: Gold
> Space Gray: sidereal grey
>
> HTH,
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C5a0167ae23e44c966cce08d977cd1a4f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637672545074630467%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=iu1gDtJdWcOvaPgCNQq77t0OVgQzBBfh4OK0zLpF9x8%3D&reserved=0>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,
>
> And usb-c will be a major bonus
>
> And the full screen without the home button will be interesting
>
> But can someone tell me,
>
> What colour is star light?
>
> I understand pink purple and space grey,
> But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through
> out
> Like a night sky.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com<mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.c

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Interesting thought,

I wouldn’t have thought of the star light as creamy coloured
But that kind of fits with the gold colour you mentioned earlier.

But yeah my recollection of stars is more like a silver twinkle
But then hey I’ve never been over 3000 feet,
But our skys might be a bit clearer than some of the skys around the USA.


Thanks Richard,



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:51 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

My sighted wife, who is a quilter, says that Starlight is a creamy white color. 
 Think of the color of cream and that is pretty darn close.
That makes sense, because Starlight implies the color of the light coming from 
a star, right?
What I remember from my sighted first 12 years, camping in the mountains at 
around 8000 feet, when the stars seemed almost close enough to touch, cream is 
a good comparison for starlight.

She also said all the colors are pastels.
Their purple she said is a light lavender.  Pink, a lighter pink.  Space Gray a 
medium to light gray.


HTH,

Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Richard,

Thanks
But to me,
Gold is gold,
Starlight is what you see at night
And here in nz night is pretty dark but with sparkles.

Cheers.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

>From one web source it says about the colors:
[Apple iPad mini 6th]The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.
First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to 
golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed these 
color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.
I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in 
respective order n\in that list.
Purple: azure blue
Pink: golden pink
Starlight: Gold
Space Gray: sidereal grey

HTH,


Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C5a0167ae23e44c966cce08d977cd1a4f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637672545074630467%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=iu1gDtJdWcOvaPgCNQq77t0OVgQzBBfh4OK0zLpF9x8%3D&reserved=0>


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

And usb-c will be a major bonus

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting

But can someone tell me,

What colour is star light?

I understand pink purple and space grey,
But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out
Like a night sky.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com<mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Hi,

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

Matthew



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac Rumors” put out that iOS15, and 
other software updates for Apple devices, would be launched MOnday, the 20th of 
September. I’m really looking forward to try out, especially the “Focus” 
feature!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Yeha I’m listening to the iphone 13 and mini presentation now and so far 
nothing on lidar

And yeah so far I’m only slightly impressed by the iPad mini
Everything else is just standard.

However I am in the situation where I need a new watch,

But I’m not sure the 7 is worth while updating to.

I might just go s E




From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 7:19 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 🤣


Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Richard Turner

My sighted wife, who is a quilter, says that Starlight is a creamy white color. 
 Think of the color of cream and that is pretty darn close.
That makes sense, because Starlight implies the color of the light coming from 
a star, right?
What I remember from my sighted first 12 years, camping in the mountains at 
around 8000 feet, when the stars seemed almost close enough to touch, cream is 
a good comparison for starlight.

She also said all the colors are pastels.
Their purple she said is a light lavender.  Pink, a lighter pink.  Space Gray a 
medium to light gray.


HTH,

Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Richard,

Thanks
But to me,
Gold is gold,
Starlight is what you see at night
And here in nz night is pretty dark but with sparkles.

Cheers.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

>From one web source it says about the colors:
[Apple iPad mini 6th]The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.
First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to 
golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed these 
color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.
I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in 
respective order n\in that list.
Purple: azure blue
Pink: golden pink
Starlight: Gold
Space Gray: sidereal grey

HTH,


Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C5a0167ae23e44c966cce08d977cd1a4f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637672545074630467%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=iu1gDtJdWcOvaPgCNQq77t0OVgQzBBfh4OK0zLpF9x8%3D&reserved=0>


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

And usb-c will be a major bonus

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting

But can someone tell me,

What colour is star light?

I understand pink purple and space grey,
But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out
Like a night sky.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com<mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Hi,

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

Matthew



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac Rumors” put out that iOS15, and 
other software updates for Apple devices, would be launched MOnday, the 20th of 
September. I’m really looking forward to try out, especially the “Focus” 
feature!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 14 sep 2021, a la(s) 3:08 p.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:

They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from past 
behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new phones 
will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be in people’s 
hands.
I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to count 
on the 24th at the latest.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Simon A Fogarty

I noticed with the minis that they have a smart cover,

Ok, but what about a smart keyboard folio?

A good apple smart folio keyboard is something I’d love for my mini,



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Hi,

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

Matthew



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac Rumors” put out that iOS15, and 
other software updates for Apple devices, would be launched MOnday, the 20th of 
September. I’m really looking forward to try out, especially the “Focus” 
feature!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 14 sep 2021, a la(s) 3:08 p.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:

They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from past 
behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new phones 
will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be in people’s 
hands.
I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to count 
on the 24th at the latest.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15 will be 
released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week, but 
thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time, last 
year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal with public 
beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to function and I am 
curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues 
still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just 1 
generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year increasingly 
is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than those who think they 
always have to have the latest.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sadam 
Ahmed
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in Australia and 
was not impressed.
I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading any 
hardware this year.
Sincerely,
Sadam Mohamed Ahmed

On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Richard,

Thanks
But to me,
Gold is gold,
Starlight is what you see at night
And here in nz night is pretty dark but with sparkles.

Cheers.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

>From one web source it says about the colors:
[Apple iPad mini 6th]The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.
First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to 
golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed these 
color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.
I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in 
respective order n\in that list.
Purple: azure blue
Pink: golden pink
Starlight: Gold
Space Gray: sidereal grey

HTH,


Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

And usb-c will be a major bonus

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting

But can someone tell me,

What colour is star light?

I understand pink purple and space grey,
But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out
Like a night sky.

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Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Hi,

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

Matthew



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac Rumors” put out that iOS15, and 
other software updates for Apple devices, would be launched MOnday, the 20th of 
September. I’m really looking forward to try out, especially the “Focus” 
feature!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 14 sep 2021, a la(s) 3:08 p.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:

They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from past 
behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new phones 
will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be in people’s 
hands.
I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to count 
on the 24th at the latest.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C8a1350a29e2c4d0fa0bb08d977c9f5f9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637672531574923444%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=RJHiWHpvBYlyK8EDMjEVchahuF%2BjhJk5C0keC1OPK1w%3D&reserved=0>


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Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15 will be 
released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week, but 
thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time, last 
year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal with public 
beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to function and I am 
curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues 
still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:vipho

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Richard Turner

>From one web source it says about the colors:
[Apple iPad mini 6th]The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.
First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to 
golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed these 
color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.
I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in 
respective order n\in that list.
Purple: azure blue
Pink: golden pink
Starlight: Gold
Space Gray: sidereal grey
HTH,


Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

And usb-c will be a major bonus

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting

But can someone tell me,

What colour is star light?

I understand pink purple and space grey,
But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out
Like a night sky.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Hi,

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

Matthew



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac Rumors” put out that iOS15, and 
other software updates for Apple devices, would be launched MOnday, the 20th of 
September. I’m really looking forward to try out, especially the “Focus” 
feature!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 14 sep 2021, a la(s) 3:08 p.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:

They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from past 
behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new phones 
will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be in people’s 
hands.
I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to count 
on the 24th at the latest.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C8a1350a29e2c4d0fa0bb08d977c9f5f9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637672531574923444%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=RJHiWHpvBYlyK8EDMjEVchahuF%2BjhJk5C0keC1OPK1w%3D&reserved=0>


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15 will be 
released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week, but 
thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time, last 
year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal with public 
beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to function and I am 
curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues 
still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just 1 
generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year increasingly 
is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than those who think they 
always have to have the latest.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread CHELA Robles

I thought that the audio descriptions were really helpful.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 14, 2021, at 3:05 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Alexa can’t airplay or airplay2,
>  
> But the device that alexa is on may be able to airplay,
>  
> It’s the hardware that has the airplay built in not the software feature of 
> the device.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:56 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> I don't think so.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
> Gazer
> Sent: September 14, 2021 2:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> Does anybody know if Alexa can airplay?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 5:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> If you want good sound get a good Bluetooth or Airplay capable speaker, you 
> need to remember that these are small devices and while I think they all 
> sound surprisingly good given that small size, there are limits which can't 
> be overcome.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> davycupp...@gmail.com
> Sent: September 14, 2021 2:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> I am curious about maybe better sound between the pro and pro max or better 
> battery between the pro and pro max.
>  
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
> Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:36
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
> rumors were wrong.
>  
> But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of 
> a surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads 
> being part of today’s event.
>  
> I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle 
> for taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.
> The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two 
> new iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture 
> taking when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
> iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
> Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.
>  
> I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini 
> sounds nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would 
> consider and neither is the iPhone 13.
> A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
> systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro 
> Motion display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this 
> is of little relevance.
>  
> I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
> iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
> don't think so.
>  
> Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
> year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
> more compelling new features.
>  
> Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
> mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new 
> headset for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release 
> their headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also 
> looking at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new 
> high efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if 
> I want to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our 
> current ones for another 10 years 🤣
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Simon A Fogarty

Alexa can’t airplay or airplay2,

But the device that alexa is on may be able to airplay,

It’s the hardware that has the airplay built in not the software feature of the 
device.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:56 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I don't think so.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 14, 2021 2:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Does anybody know if Alexa can airplay?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 5:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

If you want good sound get a good Bluetooth or Airplay capable speaker, you 
need to remember that these are small devices and while I think they all sound 
surprisingly good given that small size, there are limits which can't be 
overcome.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com<mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>
Sent: September 14, 2021 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I am curious about maybe better sound between the pro and pro max or better 
battery between the pro and pro max.

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:36
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
rumors were wrong.

But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of a 
surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads being 
part of today’s event.

I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle for 
taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.
The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two new 
iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture taking 
when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 🤣


Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

I don't think so.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 14, 2021 2:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Does anybody know if Alexa can airplay?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 5:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

If you want good sound get a good Bluetooth or Airplay capable speaker, you 
need to remember that these are small devices and while I think they all sound 
surprisingly good given that small size, there are limits which can't be 
overcome.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com<mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>
Sent: September 14, 2021 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I am curious about maybe better sound between the pro and pro max or better 
battery between the pro and pro max.

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:36
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
rumors were wrong.

But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of a 
surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads being 
part of today’s event.

I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle for 
taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.
The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two new 
iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture taking 
when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.

Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 🤣

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Exactly. My retail business has been doing extremely well during the Pandemic 
because of the fact that we sell outdoor and hunting gear and I sometimes am 
even looking for stuff I can upgrade so I can expense it, but there are many 
other things and there is no point in buying something I absolutely don't need.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sadam 
Ahmed
Sent: September 14, 2021 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Glad you concur with my Analysis.
I've recently started a new role and can  easily afford it but it's just not 
necessary.
I'm happy to stay put for at least until 2023 and maybe even beyond.
Apple’s software support is outstanding.

On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:53 am, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just 1 
generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year increasingly 
is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than those who think they 
always have to have the latest.

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in Australia and 
was not impressed.
I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading any 
hardware this year.
Sincerely,
Sadam Mohamed Ahmed

On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 🤣

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Simon A Fogarty

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

And usb-c will be a major bonus

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting

But can someone tell me,

What colour is star light?

I understand pink purple and space grey,
But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out
Like a night sky.

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ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Hi,

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

Matthew



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac Rumors” put out that iOS15, and 
other software updates for Apple devices, would be launched MOnday, the 20th of 
September. I’m really looking forward to try out, especially the “Focus” 
feature!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 14 sep 2021, a la(s) 3:08 p.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:

They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from past 
behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new phones 
will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be in people’s 
hands.
I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to count 
on the 24th at the latest.




Richard
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Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15 will be 
released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week, but 
thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time, last 
year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal with public 
beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to function and I am 
curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues 
still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just 1 
generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year increasingly 
is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than those who think they 
always have to have the latest.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sadam 
Ahmed
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in Australia and 
was not impressed.
I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading any 
hardware this year.
Sincerely,
Sadam Mohamed Ahmed

On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't th

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Richard Turner

As for the battery life, I think they compared the 13 pro to the 12 pro as an 
hour more
And the 13 pro max to the 12 pro max as and hour and a half more?
Something like that.

I suspect the sound will be pretty much the same as the 12 series since they 
are physically about the same, though I think the 13 pro max is a little bigger.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I am curious about maybe better sound between the pro and pro max or better 
battery between the pro and pro max.

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:36
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
rumors were wrong.

But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of a 
surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads being 
part of today’s event.

I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle for 
taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.
The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two new 
iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture taking 
when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.




Richard
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Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 🤣


Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Star Gazer

Does anybody know if Alexa can airplay?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 5:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

If you want good sound get a good Bluetooth or Airplay capable speaker, you 
need to remember that these are small devices and while I think they all sound 
surprisingly good given that small size, there are limits which can't be 
overcome.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: September 14, 2021 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I am curious about maybe better sound between the pro and pro max or better 
battery between the pro and pro max.

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:36
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
rumors were wrong.

But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of a 
surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads being 
part of today’s event.

I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle for 
taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.

The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two new 
iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture taking 
when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.

A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 🤣

Best regards,

Sieghard

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

If you want good sound get a good Bluetooth or Airplay capable speaker, you 
need to remember that these are small devices and while I think they all sound 
surprisingly good given that small size, there are limits which can't be 
overcome.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: September 14, 2021 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I am curious about maybe better sound between the pro and pro max or better 
battery between the pro and pro max.

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:36
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
rumors were wrong.

But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of a 
surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads being 
part of today’s event.

I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle for 
taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.
The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two new 
iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture taking 
when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.

Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 🤣

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread ilovecountrymusic483

Hi,

 

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac Rumors” put out that iOS15, and 
other software updates for Apple devices, would be launched MOnday, the 20th of 
September. I’m really looking forward to try out, especially the “Focus” 
feature!

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel





El 14 sep 2021, a la(s) 3:08 p.m., Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > escribió:

 

They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from past 
behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new phones 
will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be in people’s 
hands.

I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to count 
on the 24th at the latest.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15 will be 
released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week, but 
thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.

I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time, last 
year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal with public 
beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to function and I am 
curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues 
still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just 1 
generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year increasingly 
is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than those who think they 
always have to have the latest.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sadam Ahmed
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard. 

I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in Australia and 
was not impressed. 

I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading any 
hardware this year. 

Sincerely, 

Sadam Mohamed Ahmed  

 

On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

 

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.

A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

 

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

 

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

 

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread davycuppens

I am curious about maybe better sound between the pro and pro max or better 
battery between the pro and pro max.

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:36
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
rumors were wrong.

 

But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of a 
surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads being 
part of today’s event.

 

I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle for 
taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.

The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two new 
iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture taking 
when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

 

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.

A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

 

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

 

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

 

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 🤣

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread davycuppens

I do agree with you Sieghard, the only interesting thing I heard was the 
battery of the iphone13 wich is 2 hours more than the 12.

 

But for us here mostly visually impaired or totally blind, please be aware 
maybe not yet buying a new phone the next week because then you are obliged to 
use ios15. And not tob e dramatic or spread negativity at all, I will shut my 
mouth until next week but as you can read between the lines …

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Sieghard Weitzel
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:19
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

 

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.

A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

 

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

 

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

 

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 🤣

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread 'Nicki Keck' via VIPhone

I saw a tweet from Cnet stating IOS 15 will be released September 20.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and WatchOS 
releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, which is an iPhone 11 
and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for the iPhone is February of next 
year, which is nearly halfway through the September release cycle, so I may as 
well wait until next Fall to update. I used to be one of those update every 
year crew, and then it turned into update to last year's model each year. 
Hopefully next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose 
sensor.
My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her hands on 
a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and whistles. She just 
wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 watch. So aside from her 
purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 
15 and trying out some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing 
that I will be getting!

Kindly,
Wayne Merritt

On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from 
> past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since 
> the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day 
> they will be in people’s hands.
> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe 
> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15 
> will be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next 
> week, but thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this 
> time, last year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially 
> deal with public beta issues since I only have one device and I need 
> it to function and I am curious to read the final verdict on Applevis 
> regarding what the main issues still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, 
> just 1 generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every 
> year increasingly is becoming a thing of the past for most people 
> other than those who think they always have to have the latest.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
> I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in 
> Australia and was not impressed.
> I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading 
> any hardware this year.
> Sincerely,
> Sadam Mohamed Ahmed
>
> On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel 
> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>
> We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I 
> have an iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 
> Pro and also an Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's 
> latest basic iPad.
>
> I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad 
> Mini sounds nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I 
> would consider and neither is the iPhone 13.
> A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new 
> camera systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also 
> on the Pro Motion display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most 
> blind people this is of little relevance.
>
> I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in 
> all iPhone 13 models

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Gerardo Corripio

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac Rumors” put out that iOS15, and 
other software updates for Apple devices, would be launched MOnday, the 20th of 
September. I’m really looking forward to try out, especially the “Focus” 
feature!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 14 sep 2021, a la(s) 3:08 p.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> 
> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from past 
> behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new 
> phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be in 
> people’s hands.
> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to count 
> on the 24th at the latest.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15 will 
> be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week, but 
> thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time, last 
> year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal with public 
> beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to function and I am 
> curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues 
> still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just 1 
> generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year 
> increasingly is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than those 
> who think they always have to have the latest.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sadam 
> Ahmed
> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard. 
> I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in Australia and 
> was not impressed. 
> I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading any 
> hardware this year. 
> Sincerely, 
> Sadam Mohamed Ahmed  
>  
> 
> On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>  
> We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
> iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
> Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.
>  
> I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini 
> sounds nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would 
> consider and neither is the iPhone 13.
> A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
> systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro 
> Motion display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this 
> is of little relevance.
>  
> I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
> iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
> don't think so.
>  
> Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
> year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
> more compelling new features.
>  
> Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
> mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new 
> headset for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release 
> their headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also 
> looking at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new 
> high efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if 
> I want to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our 
> current ones for another 10 years 🤣
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
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Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Gerardo Corripio

Weird that they didn’t mention the release of iOS15! But a little while later 
(a few minutes to be exact) “Mac Rumors” said that iOS15 would be released 
MOnday, the 20th. Weird that Apple has chosen lately Mondays as releasing 
updates?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 14 sep 2021, a la(s) 2:19 p.m., Sieghard Weitzel  
> escribió:
> 
> 
> We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
> iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
> Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.
>  
> I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini 
> sounds nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would 
> consider and neither is the iPhone 13.
> A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
> systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro 
> Motion display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this 
> is of little relevance.
>  
> I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
> iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
> don't think so.
>  
> Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
> year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
> more compelling new features.
>  
> Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
> mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new 
> headset for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release 
> their headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also 
> looking at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new 
> high efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if 
> I want to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our 
> current ones for another 10 years 🤣
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Wayne Merritt

I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and
WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear,
which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through
the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to
update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it
turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next
year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her
hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and
whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4
watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware
for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the
features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be
getting!

Kindly,
Wayne Merritt

On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from past
> behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new
> phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be in
> people’s hands.
> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to
> count on the 24th at the latest.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15 will
> be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week, but
> thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time,
> last year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal with
> public beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to function
> and I am curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what the
> main issues still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just 1
> generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year
> increasingly is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than
> those who think they always have to have the latest.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
> I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in Australia
> and was not impressed.
> I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading any
> hardware this year.
> Sincerely,
> Sadam Mohamed Ahmed
>
> On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel
> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>
> We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an
> iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an
> Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.
>
> I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini
> sounds nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would
> consider and neither is the iPhone 13.
> A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new
> camera systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the
> Pro Motion display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people
> this is of little relevance.
>
> I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all
> iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I
> don't think so.
>
> Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next
> year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some
> more compelling new features.
>
> Of course there is still more

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Richard Turner

They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from past 
behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new phones 
will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be in people’s 
hands.
I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to count 
on the 24th at the latest.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15 will be 
released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week, but 
thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time, last 
year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal with public 
beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to function and I am 
curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues 
still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just 1 
generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year increasingly 
is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than those who think they 
always have to have the latest.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sadam 
Ahmed
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in Australia and 
was not impressed.
I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading any 
hardware this year.
Sincerely,
Sadam Mohamed Ahmed

On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 🤣


Best regards,
Sieghard


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Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Sadam Ahmed

Glad you concur with my Analysis. 
I've recently started a new role and can  easily afford it but it's just not 
necessary. 
I'm happy to stay put for at least until 2023 and maybe even beyond. 
Apple’s software support is outstanding.  

> On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:53 am, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just 1 
> generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year 
> increasingly is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than those 
> who think they always have to have the latest.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard. 
> I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in Australia and 
> was not impressed. 
> I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading any 
> hardware this year. 
> Sincerely, 
> Sadam Mohamed Ahmed  
> 
> 
> On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel  <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>  
> We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
> iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
> Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.
>  
> I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini 
> sounds nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would 
> consider and neither is the iPhone 13.
> A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
> systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro 
> Motion display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this 
> is of little relevance.
>  
> I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
> iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
> don't think so.
>  
> Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
> year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
> more compelling new features.
>  
> Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
> mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new 
> headset for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release 
> their headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also 
> looking at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new 
> high efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if 
> I want to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our 
> current ones for another 10 years 🤣
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15 will be 
released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week, but 
thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time, last 
year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal with public 
beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to function and I am 
curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues 
still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just 1 
generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year increasingly 
is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than those who think they 
always have to have the latest.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sadam 
Ahmed
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in Australia and 
was not impressed.
I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading any 
hardware this year.
Sincerely,
Sadam Mohamed Ahmed

On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 🤣


Best regards,
Sieghard


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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

OK, then I missed it as well and it's too bad it still is only in the Pro 
models, I just don't see the need for spending the extra money for a Pro model 
where with the iPhone 13 Pro the main differences to the 13 are the camera 
system, the Pro Motion display and I guess the Lidar. Let's see if Lidar 
becomes a standard feature next year.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Anna, yes they definitely mentioned LiDAR when talking about the pro models.
Sent from my iPhone

On 14 Sep 2021, at 20:27, Anna Dresner  wrote:
 Hi Sieghard,

I'm pretty sure they mentioned Lidar for the Pro models but not the standard 
ones. It was a very brief mention, though, so I might have misunderstood.

Best,
Anna

On Sep 14, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 🤣

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel

Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just 1 
generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year increasingly 
is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than those who think they 
always have to have the latest.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sadam 
Ahmed
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in Australia and 
was not impressed.
I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading any 
hardware this year.
Sincerely,
Sadam Mohamed Ahmed

On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
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Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Sadam Ahmed

That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard. 
I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in Australia and 
was not impressed. 
I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading any 
hardware this year. 
Sincerely, 
Sadam Mohamed Ahmed  

> On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
> iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
> Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.
>  
> I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini 
> sounds nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would 
> consider and neither is the iPhone 13.
> A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
> systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro 
> Motion display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this 
> is of little relevance.
>  
> I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
> iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
> don't think so.
>  
> Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
> year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
> more compelling new features.
>  
> Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
> mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new 
> headset for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release 
> their headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also 
> looking at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new 
> high efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if 
> I want to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our 
> current ones for another 10 years 🤣
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Richard Turner

We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
rumors were wrong.

But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of a 
surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads being 
part of today’s event.

I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle for 
taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.
The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two new 
iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture taking 
when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 🤣


Best regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Greg Wocher

Hello,
I don’t really see the need to upgrade this year either. It was a rather 
underwhelming Keynote. The iPad mini did look nice though. Also the base 
storage for all the phone models is now 128gig. If I were to upgrade I would 
actually trade in my normal iPhone 12 for an iPhone 12 Pro max for the bigger 
battery because there might be deals on them with the new ones coming out.

Greg Wocher


> On Sep 14, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
> iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
> Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.
>  
> I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini 
> sounds nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would 
> consider and neither is the iPhone 13.
> A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
> systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro 
> Motion display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this 
> is of little relevance.
>  
> I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
> iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
> don't think so.
>  
> Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
> year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
> more compelling new features.
>  
> Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
> mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new 
> headset for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release 
> their headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also 
> looking at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new 
> high efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if 
> I want to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our 
> current ones for another 10 years 🤣
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
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Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Alex Stone

Anna, yes they definitely mentioned LiDAR when talking about the pro models.

Sent from my iPhone

On 14 Sep 2021, at 20:27, Anna Dresner  wrote:

 Hi Sieghard,

I'm pretty sure they mentioned Lidar for the Pro models but not the standard 
ones. It was a very brief mention, though, so I might have misunderstood.

Best,
Anna


On Sep 14, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 🤣


Best regards,
Sieghard


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Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

2021-09-14 Thread Anna Dresner

Hi Sieghard,

I'm pretty sure they mentioned Lidar for the Pro models but not the standard 
ones. It was a very brief mention, though, so I might have misunderstood.

Best,
Anna


> On Sep 14, 2021, at 2:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
> iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
> Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.
>  
> I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini 
> sounds nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would 
> consider and neither is the iPhone 13.
> A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
> systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro 
> Motion display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this 
> is of little relevance.
>  
> I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
> iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
> don't think so.
>  
> Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
> year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
> more compelling new features.
>  
> Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
> mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new 
> headset for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release 
> their headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also 
> looking at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new 
> high efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if 
> I want to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our 
> current ones for another 10 years 🤣
>  
>  
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> Sieghard
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