Re: Looking for mail app that can filter messages

2023-03-18 Thread Jonathan Cohn
The problem with Mail Rules is that one wants some to be server side and some 
to be on your device. Outlook on Windows with Microsoft Exchange servers gives 
a very robust set of rules and generally keeps them on the server unless there 
are actions like save attachments or notify with a specific sound.
In IOS Usually  the only configuration is what sound will play and I think this 
is locked down on a mailbox level. 
Well, there is the VIP where you can have emails from specific contacts placed 
in a VIP folder and have a special tone for them. 
The VIP folder  does a search type functionality and will look for messages 
from your VIPS in any mailbox. But if you want messages automatically moved 
then  you really want that done by the mail server i.e. Google Outlook.com 
<http://outlook.com/> iCloud.com 
Otherwise, the rules can’t be relied on to remain active as you switch between 
devices.
 

> On Mar 18, 2023, at 3:57 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Okay, now I understand. I was talking about message rules. I wish the mail 
> app and other iOS mail apps gave more flexibility with different types of 
> message rules. I have set up message rules in the Gmail web view, and that 
> has helped me keep my mail organized throughout the last many years since 
> many rules have certain labels which are automatically applied to messages 
> when they arrive. Again, it would be awesome if the same feature set was in 
> the native mail app, but oh well. 
> 
> Kind regards, 
> Wayne 
> 
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> On Mar 18, 2023, at 11:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> 
> 
> And that is the difference between a "filter" and a "rule". If you want 
> certain messages to automatically get sorted to a particular folder than that 
> has to be done via a message rule. And of course if you use Gmail then it's 
> not even folders but labels, e.g. a message gets a "Viphone" label and 
> practically this is more of less like it getting put in a "Viphone" folder.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 5:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Looking for mail app that can filter messages
>  
>  
> By filters, I am assuming that you mean message rules, where certain messages 
> would go in particular folders depending on how the rule is set up.  Is this 
> correct?
>  
> Now the iOS mail app does filter messages, but not in the way I think you are 
> talking about.  When in a folder, like your inbox, at the bottom of the 
> screen, you will find a toggle filter button.  If you double tap this, this 
> will turn on the iOS filtering, and another filter button will appear.  That 
> button will let you choose the type of filtering you want.  In the iOS mail 
> app, you can filter by things like, by messages that are unread, messages 
> with attachments, messages that are flagged, and messages just received today.
>  
> Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think by using the word filtering 
> without giving any more details has given the wrong idea on what you are 
> trying to do.
>  
> As far as using message rules to filter your messages to different folders, 
> you are correct, you can not set them up in the iOS mail app.  And actually, 
> I do not know of any iOS app that lets you actually set them up.  It has been 
> stated on list before that you can set message rules up on the GMail web 
> site, and then they should show up in any iOS app that you use.  Since you 
> have said that you have already tried this with no success makes me wonder.  
> I might look into this myself to see what is going on.
>  
> Again, if you are not trying to set up message rules, please let us know.
>  
> Chris
>  
> 
> 
> On Mar 18, 2023, at 12:20 AM, Wayne Merritt  <mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Please explain how to create filters in Apple native iOS app. I have created 
> filters in the web-based version of Gmail but am having trouble doing so in 
> Apple's Mail. 
>  
> Wayne
> 
> Wayne Merritt
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> On Mar 17, 2023, at 6:10 PM, Steve Matzura  <mailto:number6...@

Re: Looking for mail app that can filter messages

2023-03-18 Thread Alex Stone


Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>so do I!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Wayne 
Merritt 
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 7:57:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Looking for mail app that can filter messages

Okay, now I understand. I was talking about message rules. I wish the mail app 
and other iOS mail apps gave more flexibility with different types of message 
rules. I have set up message rules in the Gmail web view, and that has helped 
me keep my mail organized throughout the last many years since many rules have 
certain labels which are automatically applied to messages when they arrive. 
Again, it would be awesome if the same feature set was in the native mail app, 
but oh well.

Kind regards,
Wayne

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On Mar 18, 2023, at 11:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



And that is the difference between a "filter" and a "rule". If you want certain 
messages to automatically get sorted to a particular folder than that has to be 
done via a message rule. And of course if you use Gmail then it's not even 
folders but labels, e.g. a message gets a "Viphone" label and practically this 
is more of less like it getting put in a "Viphone" folder.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 5:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for mail app that can filter messages





By filters, I am assuming that you mean message rules, where certain messages 
would go in particular folders depending on how the rule is set up.  Is this 
correct?



Now the iOS mail app does filter messages, but not in the way I think you are 
talking about.  When in a folder, like your inbox, at the bottom of the screen, 
you will find a toggle filter button.  If you double tap this, this will turn 
on the iOS filtering, and another filter button will appear.  That button will 
let you choose the type of filtering you want.  In the iOS mail app, you can 
filter by things like, by messages that are unread, messages with attachments, 
messages that are flagged, and messages just received today.



Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think by using the word filtering 
without giving any more details has given the wrong idea on what you are trying 
to do.



As far as using message rules to filter your messages to different folders, you 
are correct, you can not set them up in the iOS mail app.  And actually, I do 
not know of any iOS app that lets you actually set them up.  It has been stated 
on list before that you can set message rules up on the GMail web site, and 
then they should show up in any iOS app that you use.  Since you have said that 
you have already tried this with no success makes me wonder.  I might look into 
this myself to see what is going on.



Again, if you are not trying to set up message rules, please let us know.



Chris





On Mar 18, 2023, at 12:20 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

Please explain how to create filters in Apple native iOS app. I have created 
filters in the web-based version of Gmail but am having trouble doing so in 
Apple's Mail.



Wayne

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On Mar 17, 2023, at 6:10 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:

Can't filter messages? Please explain. Apple Mail can create a filter based on 
any property a message has.


On 3/13/2023 9:12 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:


Greetings. I am searching for a mail app that can filter my Gmail messages. I 
have tried the native iOS mail app, Outlook, and Gmail. All of them have 
certain things I like and other things I could do without. For instance, the 
native mail app cannot filter messages. Though Gmail can filter incoming mail, 
the process for creating the filter could be much easier and straightforward. 
Also, there are not nearly as many items available in the rotor actions in 
Gmail as there are in Mail. I have downloaded a few apps from the App Store, 
but haven't found any that are accessible. All thoughts and opinions welcome.



Kind regards,



Wayne Merritt

JAWS Certified, 2023



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Re: Looking for mail app that can filter messages

2023-03-18 Thread Wayne Merritt
Okay, now I understand. I was talking about message rules. I wish the mail app and other iOS mail apps gave more flexibility with different types of message rules. I have set up message rules in the Gmail web view, and that has helped me keep my mail organized throughout the last many years since many rules have certain labels which are automatically applied to messages when they arrive. Again, it would be awesome if the same feature set was in the native mail app, but oh well. Kind regards, Wayne Wayne MerrittJAWS Certified, 2023http://freedomscientific.com/certificationCheck out my GoodReads page:http://goodreads.com/waynesbooksOn Mar 18, 2023, at 11:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







And that is the difference between a "filter" and a "rule". If you want certain messages to automatically get sorted to a particular folder than that has to be done via a message rule. And of course if you use Gmail then it's not even folders
 but labels, e.g. a message gets a "Viphone" label and practically this is more of less like it getting put in a "Viphone" folder.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 5:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for mail app that can filter messages


 


 


By filters, I am assuming that you mean message rules, where certain messages would go in particular folders depending on how the rule is set up.  Is this correct?


 


Now the iOS mail app does filter messages, but not in the way I think you are talking about.  When in a folder, like your inbox, at the bottom of the screen, you will find a toggle filter button.  If you double tap this, this will turn
 on the iOS filtering, and another filter button will appear.  That button will let you choose the type of filtering you want.  In the iOS mail app, you can filter by things like, by messages that are unread, messages with attachments, messages that are flagged,
 and messages just received today.


 


Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think by using the word filtering without giving any more details has given the wrong idea on what you are trying to do.


 


As far as using message rules to filter your messages to different folders, you are correct, you can not set them up in the iOS mail app.  And actually, I do not know of any iOS app that lets you actually set them up.  It has been stated
 on list before that you can set message rules up on the GMail web site, and then they should show up in any iOS app that you use.  Since you have said that you have already tried this with no success makes me wonder.  I might look into this myself to see what
 is going on.


 


Again, if you are not trying to set up message rules, please let us know.


 


Chris


 







On Mar 18, 2023, at 12:20 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:




Please explain how to create filters in Apple native iOS app. I have created filters in the web-based version of Gmail but am having trouble doing so in Apple's Mail. 

 


Wayne


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On Mar 17, 2023, at 6:10 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:


Can't filter messages? Please explain. Apple Mail can create a filter based on any property a message has.


On 3/13/2023 9:12 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:



Greetings. I am searching for a mail app that can filter my Gmail messages. I have tried the native iOS mail app, Outlook, and Gmail. All of them have certain things I like and other things I could do without. For instance, the native mail
 app cannot filter messages. Though Gmail can filter incoming mail, the process for creating the filter could be much easier and straightforward. Also, there are not nearly as many items available in the rotor actions in Gmail as there are in Mail. I have downloaded
 a few apps from the App Store, but haven't found any that are accessible. All thoughts and opinions welcome.


 


Kind regards,


 


Wayne Merritt


JAWS Certified, 2023


 


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RE: Looking for mail app that can filter messages

2023-03-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
And that is the difference between a "filter" and a "rule". If you want certain 
messages to automatically get sorted to a particular folder than that has to be 
done via a message rule. And of course if you use Gmail then it's not even 
folders but labels, e.g. a message gets a "Viphone" label and practically this 
is more of less like it getting put in a "Viphone" folder.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 5:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for mail app that can filter messages


By filters, I am assuming that you mean message rules, where certain messages 
would go in particular folders depending on how the rule is set up.  Is this 
correct?

Now the iOS mail app does filter messages, but not in the way I think you are 
talking about.  When in a folder, like your inbox, at the bottom of the screen, 
you will find a toggle filter button.  If you double tap this, this will turn 
on the iOS filtering, and another filter button will appear.  That button will 
let you choose the type of filtering you want.  In the iOS mail app, you can 
filter by things like, by messages that are unread, messages with attachments, 
messages that are flagged, and messages just received today.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think by using the word filtering 
without giving any more details has given the wrong idea on what you are trying 
to do.

As far as using message rules to filter your messages to different folders, you 
are correct, you can not set them up in the iOS mail app.  And actually, I do 
not know of any iOS app that lets you actually set them up.  It has been stated 
on list before that you can set message rules up on the GMail web site, and 
then they should show up in any iOS app that you use.  Since you have said that 
you have already tried this with no success makes me wonder.  I might look into 
this myself to see what is going on.

Again, if you are not trying to set up message rules, please let us know.

Chris



On Mar 18, 2023, at 12:20 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
Please explain how to create filters in Apple native iOS app. I have created 
filters in the web-based version of Gmail but am having trouble doing so in 
Apple's Mail.

Wayne
Wayne Merritt
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On Mar 17, 2023, at 6:10 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
Can't filter messages? Please explain. Apple Mail can create a filter based on 
any property a message has.


On 3/13/2023 9:12 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

Greetings. I am searching for a mail app that can filter my Gmail messages. I 
have tried the native iOS mail app, Outlook, and Gmail. All of them have 
certain things I like and other things I could do without. For instance, the 
native mail app cannot filter messages. Though Gmail can filter incoming mail, 
the process for creating the filter could be much easier and straightforward. 
Also, there are not nearly as many items available in the rotor actions in 
Gmail as there are in Mail. I have downloaded a few apps from the App Store, 
but haven't found any that are accessible. All thoughts and opinions welcome.

Kind regards,

Wayne Merritt
JAWS Certified, 2023


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Re: Looking for mail app that can filter messages

2023-03-18 Thread Chris Chaffin
By filters, I am assuming that you mean message rules, where certain messages would go in particular folders depending on how the rule is set up.  Is this correct?Now the iOS mail app does filter messages, but not in the way I think you are talking about.  When in a folder, like your inbox, at the bottom of the screen, you will find a toggle filter button.  If you double tap this, this will turn on the iOS filtering, and another filter button will appear.  That button will let you choose the type of filtering you want.  In the iOS mail app, you can filter by things like, by messages that are unread, messages with attachments, messages that are flagged, and messages just received today.Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think by using the word filtering without giving any more details has given the wrong idea on what you are trying to do.As far as using message rules to filter your messages to different folders, you are correct, you can not set them up in the iOS mail app.  And actually, I do not know of any iOS app that lets you actually set them up.  It has been stated on list before that you can set message rules up on the GMail web site, and then they should show up in any iOS app that you use.  Since you have said that you have already tried this with no success makes me wonder.  I might look into this myself to see what is going on.Again, if you are not trying to set up message rules, please let us know.ChrisOn Mar 18, 2023, at 12:20 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:Please explain how to create filters in Apple native iOS app. I have created filters in the web-based version of Gmail but am having trouble doing so in Apple's Mail. WayneWayne MerrittJAWS Certified, 2023http://freedomscientific.com/certificationCheck out my GoodReads page:http://goodreads.com/waynesbooksOn Mar 17, 2023, at 6:10 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:Can't filter messages? Please explain. Apple Mail can create a filter based on any property a message has.On 3/13/2023 9:12 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:Greetings. I am searching for a mail app that can filter my Gmail messages. I have tried the native iOS mail app, Outlook, and Gmail. All of them have certain things I like and other things I could do without. For instance, the native mail app cannot filter messages. Though Gmail can filter incoming mail, the process for creating the filter could be much easier and straightforward. Also, there are not nearly as many items available in the rotor actions in Gmail as there are in Mail. I have downloaded a few apps from the App Store, but haven't found any that are accessible. All thoughts and opinions welcome.Kind regards,Wayne MerrittJAWS Certified, 2023-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/45e0f785-77fa-606e-aa43-d4222468cca1%40gmail.com.



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Re: Looking for mail app that can filter messages

2023-03-17 Thread Wayne Merritt
Please explain how to create filters in Apple native iOS app. I have created 
filters in the web-based version of Gmail but am having trouble doing so in 
Apple's Mail. 

Wayne

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On Mar 17, 2023, at 6:10 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:

Can't filter messages? Please explain. Apple Mail can create a filter based on 
any property a message has.


On 3/13/2023 9:12 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
> Greetings. I am searching for a mail app that can filter my Gmail messages. I 
> have tried the native iOS mail app, Outlook, and Gmail. All of them have 
> certain things I like and other things I could do without. For instance, the 
> native mail app cannot filter messages. Though Gmail can filter incoming 
> mail, the process for creating the filter could be much easier and 
> straightforward. Also, there are not nearly as many items available in the 
> rotor actions in Gmail as there are in Mail. I have downloaded a few apps 
> from the App Store, but haven't found any that are accessible. All thoughts 
> and opinions welcome.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Wayne Merritt
> JAWS Certified, 2023
> 

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Re: Looking for mail app that can filter messages

2023-03-17 Thread Steve Matzura
Can't filter messages? Please explain. Apple Mail can create a filter 
based on any property a message has.



On 3/13/2023 9:12 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
Greetings. I am searching for a mail app that can filter my Gmail 
messages. I have tried the native iOS mail app, Outlook, and Gmail. 
All of them have certain things I like and other things I could do 
without. For instance, the native mail app cannot filter messages. 
Though Gmail can filter incoming mail, the process for creating the 
filter could be much easier and straightforward. Also, there are not 
nearly as many items available in the rotor actions in Gmail as there 
are in Mail. I have downloaded a few apps from the App Store, but 
haven't found any that are accessible. All thoughts and opinions welcome.


Kind regards,

Wayne Merritt
JAWS Certified, 2023



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