Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

2015-01-17 Thread Kimberly
That does seem kind of weird.  I have a 6 and a 4s though only the 6 is 
functioning as a phone. I am not using iCloud on either device. I can read 
email and send messages on both devices just fine. Try turning off iCloud if 
you don't need it and see if that helps.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

> On Jan 16, 2015, at 3:56 PM, "Deidre Muccio"  wrote:
> 
> I have a new 6 and initially I was terrified it would go sailing out of my
> hand. I didn't even use it for an entire day. I have a silicone case on it
> now but  will replace that one with one a bit thicker that has some kind of
> padding in it. Once I got over my terror, though the 6 is very light and
> thin - with terrible speaker sound than my 4S, much  too my disappointment,
> it nearly immediately started to feel normal using it.  The new phone
> however is causing all kinds of interference with my old 4S with a different
> number and carrier on it though I am still using the same Apple ID. It also
> seems to be significantly slowing down retrieving mail on my computer. Oh
> yes the 4S won't let me send text messages anymore nor reply to a message
> either - that is just weird. Some setting must need changing cause the new
> phone seems to be bullying all the other devices. Is this an I Cloud issue?
> I back up using I Tunes on the computer so maybe I can change some setting
> in ICloud or do something in devices? 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kimber Gardner
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 12:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?
> 
> I just got my 6 (upgraded from a 4s) and it feels quite a bit bigger to me.
> My hands are not exceptionally small, but the screen is much larger and
> changes quite a bit the reach when I type or attempt to locate icons.
> 
> That is just my experience and I'm sure I'll get accustomed to it.
> Also, I am using it without a case.
> 
> Kimber
> 
> On 1/14/15, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
> wrote:
>> How much wider, does anyone know off hand?
>> 
>> I just wish I could try it out in a case and feel happy.
>> 
>> Carol P
>> 
>>  - Original Message -
>>  From: Brett
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 1:32 AM
>>  Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?
>> 
>> 
>>  Hi,
>> 
>> 
>>  I always use away mode as I can't stand tabletop mode. No the dot 
>> persitions aren't any further spaced out than earlier iPhone models: 
>> well not at least on my 6.
>> 
>> 
>>  The 6 is only just wider than previous modles, so holding the phone 
>> isn't any different. I have never tried brailling on the 6; plus, so I 
>> cannot comment on the experience of brailling on the 6 plus.
>> 
>> 
>>  Hope this helps,
>>  Brett.
>> 
>>  Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
>> 
>>  On 14 Jan 2015, at 1:24 am, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>Because there's a bigger screen, are the dot finger positions more 
>> spaced out?
>> 
>>My problem is this!  I hold my phone, facing away from me, between 
>> my thumbs and little fingers, and write with the rest!
>> 
>>Now, I can't reach the width to do this on either of the new 
>> phones.  I haven't been able to play properly because all the phones 
>> are "tied down" so as to stop theft, but this means I can't have a 
>> case on to stop them slipping from my fingers!
>> 
>>How do people hold their 6 and 6+ when brailling?
>> 
>>    I wish I could be convinced that this would work well enough for me.
>> I've tried table top mode, in every conceivable way that I can think 
>> of, but still haven't been satisfied so far.
>> 
>>Any other comments still very welcome, thanks.
>> 
>>Carol P
>> 
>> 
>>Carol P
>> 
>>  - Original Message -
>>  From: Brett
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:03 AM
>>  Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?
>> 
>> 
>>  Hi,
>> 
>> 
>>  Its just the same as using a 4S or 5. In screen away mode, It 
>> doesn't matter about the screen size so you can touch near each end if 
>> you want. You don't have to try to reach the centre of the screen.
>> 
>> 
>>  Cheers,
>>  Brett.
>> 
>> 
>>   

RE: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

2015-01-16 Thread Deidre Muccio
I have a new 6 and initially I was terrified it would go sailing out of my
hand. I didn't even use it for an entire day. I have a silicone case on it
now but  will replace that one with one a bit thicker that has some kind of
padding in it. Once I got over my terror, though the 6 is very light and
thin - with terrible speaker sound than my 4S, much  too my disappointment,
it nearly immediately started to feel normal using it.  The new phone
however is causing all kinds of interference with my old 4S with a different
number and carrier on it though I am still using the same Apple ID. It also
seems to be significantly slowing down retrieving mail on my computer. Oh
yes the 4S won't let me send text messages anymore nor reply to a message
either - that is just weird. Some setting must need changing cause the new
phone seems to be bullying all the other devices. Is this an I Cloud issue?
I back up using I Tunes on the computer so maybe I can change some setting
in ICloud or do something in devices? 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 12:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

I just got my 6 (upgraded from a 4s) and it feels quite a bit bigger to me.
My hands are not exceptionally small, but the screen is much larger and
changes quite a bit the reach when I type or attempt to locate icons.

That is just my experience and I'm sure I'll get accustomed to it.
Also, I am using it without a case.

Kimber

On 1/14/15, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
wrote:
> How much wider, does anyone know off hand?
>
> I just wish I could try it out in a case and feel happy.
>
> Carol P
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Brett
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 1:32 AM
>   Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?
>
>
>   Hi,
>
>
>   I always use away mode as I can't stand tabletop mode. No the dot 
> persitions aren't any further spaced out than earlier iPhone models: 
> well not at least on my 6.
>
>
>   The 6 is only just wider than previous modles, so holding the phone 
> isn't any different. I have never tried brailling on the 6; plus, so I 
> cannot comment on the experience of brailling on the 6 plus.
>
>
>   Hope this helps,
>   Brett.
>
>   Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
>
>   On 14 Jan 2015, at 1:24 am, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
>  wrote:
>
>
> Because there's a bigger screen, are the dot finger positions more 
> spaced out?
>
> My problem is this!  I hold my phone, facing away from me, between 
> my thumbs and little fingers, and write with the rest!
>
> Now, I can't reach the width to do this on either of the new 
> phones.  I haven't been able to play properly because all the phones 
> are "tied down" so as to stop theft, but this means I can't have a 
> case on to stop them slipping from my fingers!
>
> How do people hold their 6 and 6+ when brailling?
>
> I wish I could be convinced that this would work well enough for me.
> I've tried table top mode, in every conceivable way that I can think 
> of, but still haven't been satisfied so far.
>
> Any other comments still very welcome, thanks.
>
> Carol P
>
>
> Carol P
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Brett
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:03 AM
>   Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?
>
>
>   Hi,
>
>
>   Its just the same as using a 4S or 5. In screen away mode, It 
> doesn't matter about the screen size so you can touch near each end if 
> you want. You don't have to try to reach the centre of the screen.
>
>
>   Cheers,
>   Brett.
>
>
>   Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
>
>   On 13 Jan 2015, at 8:00 am, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
>  wrote:
>
>
> OK,
>
> Here's another question for those of you who use the Braille 
> keyboard on the 6 or 6plus.  If you don't use it on a tabletop, or in 
> tabletop mode on your knees, however do you manage to hold it and get 
> your fingers still to fit properly across the screen?
>
> I was having a bit of a play today with the 6 and 6plus but I 
> really don't quite envisage how I'll braille well and easily as I 
> don't want to use table top mode or to work on a table.
>
> Please give me your experiences on this one.
>
> Carol P
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Alex Hall
&

Re: iPhone 6 and 6 Plus Dimensions was RE: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

2015-01-14 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Thanks so much for looking these up for me.  I was having difficulty juggling 
loads of things earlier and just wondered if anyone happened to know.  

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Lemly 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 4:11 PM
  Subject: iPhone 6 and 6 Plus Dimensions was RE: Query re upgrading to IPhone 
6 or 6+?


  Here are the dimensions of the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus from Apple's website:



  Weight and Dimensions



  iPhone 6: Length - 5.44 inches (138.1 mm), Width - 2.64 inches (67.0 mm), 
Thickness: 0.27 inch

  (6.9 mm), Weight: 4.55 ounces (129 grams)



  iPhone 6 Plus: Length - 6.22 inches (158.1 mm), Width - 3.06 inches (77.8 
mm), Thickness - 0.28 inch

  (7.1 mm), Weight: 6.07 ounces (172 grams)



  These came from this website:



  http://www.apple.com/iphone-6/specs/



  I will say that the website does not label the measurement between length and 
width, etc. but instead places the respective dimensions next to a drawing of 
the product.



  Alan Lemly





  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 4:16 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?



  How much wider, does anyone know off hand?



  I just wish I could try it out in a case and feel happy.



  Carol P



- Original Message - 

From: Brett 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 1:32 AM

Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?



Hi, 



I always use away mode as I can't stand tabletop mode. No the dot 
persitions aren't any further spaced out than earlier iPhone models: well not 
at least on my 6. 



The 6 is only just wider than previous modles, so holding the phone isn't 
any different. I have never tried brailling on the 6; plus, so I cannot comment 
on the experience of brailling on the 6 plus. 



Hope this helps, 

Brett. 


Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone


On 14 Jan 2015, at 1:24 am, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:

  Because there's a bigger screen, are the dot finger positions more spaced 
out?



  My problem is this!  I hold my phone, facing away from me, between my 
thumbs and little fingers, and write with the rest!



  Now, I can't reach the width to do this on either of the new phones.  I 
haven't been able to play properly because all the phones are "tied down" so as 
to stop theft, but this means I can't have a case on to stop them slipping from 
my fingers!



  How do people hold their 6 and 6+ when brailling?



  I wish I could be convinced that this would work well enough for me.  
I've tried table top mode, in every conceivable way that I can think of, but 
still haven't been satisfied so far.



  Any other comments still very welcome, thanks.



  Carol P





  Carol P



- Original Message - 

From: Brett 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

        Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:03 AM

Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?



Hi, 



Its just the same as using a 4S or 5. In screen away mode, It doesn't 
matter about the screen size so you can touch near each end if you want. You 
don't have to try to reach the centre of the screen. 



Cheers, 

Brett. 



Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone


On 13 Jan 2015, at 8:00 am, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:

  OK,



  Here's another question for those of you who use the Braille keyboard 
on the 6 or 6plus.  If you don't use it on a tabletop, or in tabletop mode on 
your knees, however do you manage to hold it and get your fingers still to fit 
properly across the screen?



  I was having a bit of a play today with the 6 and 6plus but I really 
don't quite envisage how I'll braille well and easily as I don't want to use 
table top mode or to work on a table.



  Please give me your experiences on this one.



  Carol P



- Original Message - 

From: Alex Hall 

    To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

        Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 4:09 PM

Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?



Some accessibility notes on why you might consider the larger 
screen of the 6 Plus, taken from my article at: 


http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-carriers-ios-iphone-news/recap-and-opinions-apples-fall-2014-announcements

One thing the article doesn't mention is that the iPhone 6 Plus 
supports the Perkins style layout for braille screen input, no flattened V 
shape necessary. Some users also find that typing with the regular on-scr

Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

2015-01-14 Thread Kimber Gardner
I just got my 6 (upgraded from a 4s) and it feels quite a bit bigger
to me. My hands are not exceptionally small, but the screen is much
larger and changes quite a bit the reach when I type or attempt to
locate icons.

That is just my experience and I'm sure I'll get accustomed to it.
Also, I am using it without a case.

Kimber

On 1/14/15, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
> How much wider, does anyone know off hand?
>
> I just wish I could try it out in a case and feel happy.
>
> Carol P
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Brett
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 1:32 AM
>   Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?
>
>
>   Hi,
>
>
>   I always use away mode as I can't stand tabletop mode. No the dot
> persitions aren't any further spaced out than earlier iPhone models: well
> not at least on my 6.
>
>
>   The 6 is only just wider than previous modles, so holding the phone isn't
> any different. I have never tried brailling on the 6; plus, so I cannot
> comment on the experience of brailling on the 6 plus.
>
>
>   Hope this helps,
>   Brett.
>
>   Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
>
>   On 14 Jan 2015, at 1:24 am, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
>  wrote:
>
>
> Because there's a bigger screen, are the dot finger positions more
> spaced out?
>
> My problem is this!  I hold my phone, facing away from me, between my
> thumbs and little fingers, and write with the rest!
>
> Now, I can't reach the width to do this on either of the new phones.  I
> haven't been able to play properly because all the phones are "tied down" so
> as to stop theft, but this means I can't have a case on to stop them
> slipping from my fingers!
>
> How do people hold their 6 and 6+ when brailling?
>
> I wish I could be convinced that this would work well enough for me.
> I've tried table top mode, in every conceivable way that I can think of, but
> still haven't been satisfied so far.
>
> Any other comments still very welcome, thanks.
>
> Carol P
>
>
> Carol P
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Brett
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:03 AM
>   Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?
>
>
>   Hi,
>
>
>   Its just the same as using a 4S or 5. In screen away mode, It doesn't
> matter about the screen size so you can touch near each end if you want. You
> don't have to try to reach the centre of the screen.
>
>
>   Cheers,
>   Brett.
>
>
>   Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
>
>   On 13 Jan 2015, at 8:00 am, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
>  wrote:
>
>
> OK,
>
> Here's another question for those of you who use the Braille
> keyboard on the 6 or 6plus.  If you don't use it on a tabletop, or in
> tabletop mode on your knees, however do you manage to hold it and get your
> fingers still to fit properly across the screen?
>
> I was having a bit of a play today with the 6 and 6plus but I really
> don't quite envisage how I'll braille well and easily as I don't want to use
> table top mode or to work on a table.
>
> Please give me your experiences on this one.
>
> Carol P
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Alex Hall
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 4:09 PM
>   Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?
>
>
>   Some accessibility notes on why you might consider the larger
> screen of the 6 Plus, taken from my article at:
>
> http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-carriers-ios-iphone-news/recap-and-opinions-apples-fall-2014-announcements
>   One thing the article doesn't mention is that the iPhone 6 Plus
> supports the Perkins style layout for braille screen input, no flattened V
> shape necessary. Some users also find that typing with the regular on-screen
> keyboard (in landscape mode) is a joy, almost like typing on a small
> hardware keyboard. I don't have a 6 Plus so can't comment personally.
> Anyway, here's the excerpt:
>
>
>   The larger screen seems to many people to be, at first, a
> non-issue at best and an annoyance at worst. If you can't see the screen,
> why would you want to use a phone that has a huge one (I'm looking at you, 6
> Plus)? You have to figure out where to put this massive device, get used to
> your apps being even bigger, figure out new layouts... Why bother? Aside from
>

iPhone 6 and 6 Plus Dimensions was RE: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

2015-01-14 Thread Alan Lemly
Here are the dimensions of the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus from Apple's website:

 

Weight and Dimensions

 

iPhone 6: Length - 5.44 inches (138.1 mm), Width - 2.64 inches (67.0 mm),
Thickness: 0.27 inch

(6.9 mm), Weight: 4.55 ounces (129 grams)

 

iPhone 6 Plus: Length - 6.22 inches (158.1 mm), Width - 3.06 inches (77.8
mm), Thickness - 0.28 inch

(7.1 mm), Weight: 6.07 ounces (172 grams)

 

These came from this website:

 

http://www.apple.com/iphone-6/specs/

 

I will say that the website does not label the measurement between length
and width, etc. but instead places the respective dimensions next to a
drawing of the product.

 

Alan Lemly

 

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 4:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

 

How much wider, does anyone know off hand?

 

I just wish I could try it out in a case and feel happy.

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: Brett <mailto:brettst...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 1:32 AM

Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

 

Hi, 

 

I always use away mode as I can't stand tabletop mode. No the dot persitions
aren't any further spaced out than earlier iPhone models: well not at least
on my 6. 

 

The 6 is only just wider than previous modles, so holding the phone isn't
any different. I have never tried brailling on the 6; plus, so I cannot
comment on the experience of brailling on the 6 plus. 

 

Hope this helps, 

Brett. 


Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone


On 14 Jan 2015, at 1:24 am, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

Because there's a bigger screen, are the dot finger positions more spaced
out?

 

My problem is this!  I hold my phone, facing away from me, between my thumbs
and little fingers, and write with the rest!

 

Now, I can't reach the width to do this on either of the new phones.  I
haven't been able to play properly because all the phones are "tied down" so
as to stop theft, but this means I can't have a case on to stop them
slipping from my fingers!

 

How do people hold their 6 and 6+ when brailling?

 

I wish I could be convinced that this would work well enough for me.  I've
tried table top mode, in every conceivable way that I can think of, but
still haven't been satisfied so far.

 

Any other comments still very welcome, thanks.

 

Carol P

 

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: Brett <mailto:brettst...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:03 AM

Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

 

Hi, 

 

Its just the same as using a 4S or 5. In screen away mode, It doesn't matter
about the screen size so you can touch near each end if you want. You don't
have to try to reach the centre of the screen. 

 

Cheers, 

Brett. 



Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone


On 13 Jan 2015, at 8:00 am, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

OK,

 

Here's another question for those of you who use the Braille keyboard on the
6 or 6plus.  If you don't use it on a tabletop, or in tabletop mode on your
knees, however do you manage to hold it and get your fingers still to fit
properly across the screen?

 

I was having a bit of a play today with the 6 and 6plus but I really don't
quite envisage how I'll braille well and easily as I don't want to use table
top mode or to work on a table.

 

Please give me your experiences on this one.

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: Alex Hall <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 4:09 PM

Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

 

Some accessibility notes on why you might consider the larger screen of the
6 Plus, taken from my article at: 

http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-carriers-ios-iphone-news/recap-and-opinio
ns-apples-fall-2014-announcements

One thing the article doesn't mention is that the iPhone 6 Plus supports the
Perkins style layout for braille screen input, no flattened V shape
necessary. Some users also find that typing with the regular on-screen
keyboard (in landscape mode) is a joy, almost like typing on a small
hardware keyboard. I don't have a 6 Plus so can't comment personally.
Anyway, here's the excerpt:

 

The larger screen seems to many people to be, at first, a non-issue at best
and an annoyance at worst. If you can't see the screen, why would you want
to use a phone that has a huge one (I'm looking at you, 6 Plus)? You have to
figure out where to put this massive device, get used to your apps being
even bigger, figure out new layouts. Why bother? Aside from the fact that
the iPhone 6 is actually not much larger than the 5S

Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

2015-01-14 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
How much wider, does anyone know off hand?

I just wish I could try it out in a case and feel happy.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Brett 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 1:32 AM
  Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?


  Hi, 


  I always use away mode as I can't stand tabletop mode. No the dot persitions 
aren't any further spaced out than earlier iPhone models: well not at least on 
my 6. 


  The 6 is only just wider than previous modles, so holding the phone isn't any 
different. I have never tried brailling on the 6; plus, so I cannot comment on 
the experience of brailling on the 6 plus. 


  Hope this helps, 
  Brett. 

  Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone

  On 14 Jan 2015, at 1:24 am, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:


Because there's a bigger screen, are the dot finger positions more spaced 
out?

My problem is this!  I hold my phone, facing away from me, between my 
thumbs and little fingers, and write with the rest!

Now, I can't reach the width to do this on either of the new phones.  I 
haven't been able to play properly because all the phones are "tied down" so as 
to stop theft, but this means I can't have a case on to stop them slipping from 
my fingers!

How do people hold their 6 and 6+ when brailling?

I wish I could be convinced that this would work well enough for me.  I've 
tried table top mode, in every conceivable way that I can think of, but still 
haven't been satisfied so far.

Any other comments still very welcome, thanks.

Carol P


Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Brett 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
      Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:03 AM
  Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?


  Hi, 


  Its just the same as using a 4S or 5. In screen away mode, It doesn't 
matter about the screen size so you can touch near each end if you want. You 
don't have to try to reach the centre of the screen. 


  Cheers, 
  Brett. 


  Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone

  On 13 Jan 2015, at 8:00 am, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:


OK,

Here's another question for those of you who use the Braille keyboard 
on the 6 or 6plus.  If you don't use it on a tabletop, or in tabletop mode on 
your knees, however do you manage to hold it and get your fingers still to fit 
properly across the screen?

I was having a bit of a play today with the 6 and 6plus but I really 
don't quite envisage how I'll braille well and easily as I don't want to use 
table top mode or to work on a table.

Please give me your experiences on this one.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
          Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 4:09 PM
  Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?


  Some accessibility notes on why you might consider the larger screen 
of the 6 Plus, taken from my article at: 
  
http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-carriers-ios-iphone-news/recap-and-opinions-apples-fall-2014-announcements
  One thing the article doesn't mention is that the iPhone 6 Plus 
supports the Perkins style layout for braille screen input, no flattened V 
shape necessary. Some users also find that typing with the regular on-screen 
keyboard (in landscape mode) is a joy, almost like typing on a small hardware 
keyboard. I don't have a 6 Plus so can't comment personally. Anyway, here's the 
excerpt:


  The larger screen seems to many people to be, at first, a non-issue 
at best and an annoyance at worst. If you can't see the screen, why would you 
want to use a phone that has a huge one (I'm looking at you, 6 Plus)? You have 
to figure out where to put this massive device, get used to your apps being 
even bigger, figure out new layouts… Why bother? Aside from the fact that the 
iPhone 6 is actually not much larger than the 5S (the screen is larger, but 
there is less of a bezel), I can come up with a few reasons:

a.. The larger screen means a larger phone, which means a larger 
battery. The battery life on the iPhone 6 is better than the 5S, and the 6 Plus 
battery is better than the 6. This is a win for all users, especially if you 
rely on battery-draining GPS or audio apps. 
b.. You have more room on the screen for touch. If you are someone 
who touches things instead of flicking to them, you might find you enjoy having 
more content (especially on webpages) available to you on a single screen. Even 
if you flick instead of touch, you will be able to fit more text from, say, an 
iBooks or Kindle book. That means more time between that pause while the page 
is "turned". 
c.. Low vision users will love t

Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

2015-01-13 Thread Brett
Hi, 

I always use away mode as I can't stand tabletop mode. No the dot persitions 
aren't any further spaced out than earlier iPhone models: well not at least on 
my 6. 

The 6 is only just wider than previous modles, so holding the phone isn't any 
different. I have never tried brailling on the 6; plus, so I cannot comment on 
the experience of brailling on the 6 plus. 

Hope this helps, 
Brett. 

Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone

> On 14 Jan 2015, at 1:24 am, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
>  wrote:
> 
> Because there's a bigger screen, are the dot finger positions more spaced out?
>  
> My problem is this!  I hold my phone, facing away from me, between my thumbs 
> and little fingers, and write with the rest!
>  
> Now, I can't reach the width to do this on either of the new phones.  I 
> haven't been able to play properly because all the phones are "tied down" so 
> as to stop theft, but this means I can't have a case on to stop them slipping 
> from my fingers!
>  
> How do people hold their 6 and 6+ when brailling?
>  
> I wish I could be convinced that this would work well enough for me.  I've 
> tried table top mode, in every conceivable way that I can think of, but still 
> haven't been satisfied so far.
>  
> Any other comments still very welcome, thanks.
>  
> Carol P
>  
>  
> Carol P
>  
> - Original Message -----
> From: Brett
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:03 AM
> Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> Its just the same as using a 4S or 5. In screen away mode, It doesn't matter 
> about the screen size so you can touch near each end if you want. You don't 
> have to try to reach the centre of the screen. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Brett. 
> 
> 
> Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
> 
>> On 13 Jan 2015, at 8:00 am, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> OK,
>>  
>> Here's another question for those of you who use the Braille keyboard on the 
>> 6 or 6plus.  If you don't use it on a tabletop, or in tabletop mode on your 
>> knees, however do you manage to hold it and get your fingers still to fit 
>> properly across the screen?
>>  
>> I was having a bit of a play today with the 6 and 6plus but I really don't 
>> quite envisage how I'll braille well and easily as I don't want to use table 
>> top mode or to work on a table.
>>  
>> Please give me your experiences on this one.
>>  
>> Carol P
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Alex Hall
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 4:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?
>> 
>> Some accessibility notes on why you might consider the larger screen of the 
>> 6 Plus, taken from my article at:
>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-carriers-ios-iphone-news/recap-and-opinions-apples-fall-2014-announcements
>> One thing the article doesn't mention is that the iPhone 6 Plus supports the 
>> Perkins style layout for braille screen input, no flattened V shape 
>> necessary. Some users also find that typing with the regular on-screen 
>> keyboard (in landscape mode) is a joy, almost like typing on a small 
>> hardware keyboard. I don't have a 6 Plus so can't comment personally. 
>> Anyway, here's the excerpt:
>> 
>> The larger screen seems to many people to be, at first, a non-issue at best 
>> and an annoyance at worst. If you can't see the screen, why would you want 
>> to use a phone that has a huge one (I'm looking at you, 6 Plus)? You have to 
>> figure out where to put this massive device, get used to your apps being 
>> even bigger, figure out new layouts… Why bother? Aside from the fact that 
>> the iPhone 6 is actually not much larger than the 5S (the screen is larger, 
>> but there is less of a bezel), I can come up with a few reasons:
>> 
>> The larger screen means a larger phone, which means a larger battery. The 
>> battery life on the iPhone 6 is better than the 5S, and the 6 Plus battery 
>> is better than the 6. This is a win for all users, especially if you rely on 
>> battery-draining GPS or audio apps.
>> You have more room on the screen for touch. If you are someone who touches 
>> things instead of flicking to them, you might find you enjoy having more 
>> content (especially on webpages) available to you on a single screen. Even 
>> if you flick instead of touch, you will be able to fit more text from, say, 
>> an iBooks or Kindle book. That mean

Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

2015-01-13 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Because there's a bigger screen, are the dot finger positions more spaced out?

My problem is this!  I hold my phone, facing away from me, between my thumbs 
and little fingers, and write with the rest!

Now, I can't reach the width to do this on either of the new phones.  I haven't 
been able to play properly because all the phones are "tied down" so as to stop 
theft, but this means I can't have a case on to stop them slipping from my 
fingers!

How do people hold their 6 and 6+ when brailling?

I wish I could be convinced that this would work well enough for me.  I've 
tried table top mode, in every conceivable way that I can think of, but still 
haven't been satisfied so far.

Any other comments still very welcome, thanks.

Carol P


Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Brett 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 7:03 AM
  Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?


  Hi, 


  Its just the same as using a 4S or 5. In screen away mode, It doesn't matter 
about the screen size so you can touch near each end if you want. You don't 
have to try to reach the centre of the screen. 


  Cheers, 
  Brett. 


  Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone

  On 13 Jan 2015, at 8:00 am, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:


OK,

Here's another question for those of you who use the Braille keyboard on 
the 6 or 6plus.  If you don't use it on a tabletop, or in tabletop mode on your 
knees, however do you manage to hold it and get your fingers still to fit 
properly across the screen?

I was having a bit of a play today with the 6 and 6plus but I really don't 
quite envisage how I'll braille well and easily as I don't want to use table 
top mode or to work on a table.

Please give me your experiences on this one.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
      Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 4:09 PM
  Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?


  Some accessibility notes on why you might consider the larger screen of 
the 6 Plus, taken from my article at: 
  
http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-carriers-ios-iphone-news/recap-and-opinions-apples-fall-2014-announcements
  One thing the article doesn't mention is that the iPhone 6 Plus supports 
the Perkins style layout for braille screen input, no flattened V shape 
necessary. Some users also find that typing with the regular on-screen keyboard 
(in landscape mode) is a joy, almost like typing on a small hardware keyboard. 
I don't have a 6 Plus so can't comment personally. Anyway, here's the excerpt:


  The larger screen seems to many people to be, at first, a non-issue at 
best and an annoyance at worst. If you can't see the screen, why would you want 
to use a phone that has a huge one (I'm looking at you, 6 Plus)? You have to 
figure out where to put this massive device, get used to your apps being even 
bigger, figure out new layouts… Why bother? Aside from the fact that the iPhone 
6 is actually not much larger than the 5S (the screen is larger, but there is 
less of a bezel), I can come up with a few reasons:

a.. The larger screen means a larger phone, which means a larger 
battery. The battery life on the iPhone 6 is better than the 5S, and the 6 Plus 
battery is better than the 6. This is a win for all users, especially if you 
rely on battery-draining GPS or audio apps. 
b.. You have more room on the screen for touch. If you are someone who 
touches things instead of flicking to them, you might find you enjoy having 
more content (especially on webpages) available to you on a single screen. Even 
if you flick instead of touch, you will be able to fit more text from, say, an 
iBooks or Kindle book. That means more time between that pause while the page 
is "turned". 
c.. Low vision users will love this. Magnification apps, zoom, larger 
text, and similar apps and services will have more room to play with, letting 
users see more at once instead of needing to scroll so much. 
d.. Another win for low vision users is Display Zoom, which will shrink 
the current app down to a smaller size, then zoom it to the full size of the 
iPhone's screen. This sounds confusing, but it has the effect of making an app 
larger and easier to see. 
e.. If you use Apple Maps, Ariadne, or other apps that offer accessible 
maps on the screen, you will have a lot more room to explore said maps, even 
when zoomed in. 
f.. The iPhone 6 Plus supports special landscape views in certain apps. 
For instance, in Mail, switching to landscape mode will show the list of 
messages on the left, and the currently open message on the right, similar to 
an iPad. You might find this increased content on a single screen more 
efficient. 
g.. 
On Jan 11, 2015,

Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

2015-01-12 Thread Brett
Hi, 

Its just the same as using a 4S or 5. In screen away mode, It doesn't matter 
about the screen size so you can touch near each end if you want. You don't 
have to try to reach the centre of the screen. 

Cheers, 
Brett. 


Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone

> On 13 Jan 2015, at 8:00 am, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
>  wrote:
> 
> OK,
>  
> Here's another question for those of you who use the Braille keyboard on the 
> 6 or 6plus.  If you don't use it on a tabletop, or in tabletop mode on your 
> knees, however do you manage to hold it and get your fingers still to fit 
> properly across the screen?
>  
> I was having a bit of a play today with the 6 and 6plus but I really don't 
> quite envisage how I'll braille well and easily as I don't want to use table 
> top mode or to work on a table.
>  
> Please give me your experiences on this one.
>  
> Carol P
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Alex Hall
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 4:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?
> 
> Some accessibility notes on why you might consider the larger screen of the 6 
> Plus, taken from my article at:
> http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-carriers-ios-iphone-news/recap-and-opinions-apples-fall-2014-announcements
> One thing the article doesn't mention is that the iPhone 6 Plus supports the 
> Perkins style layout for braille screen input, no flattened V shape 
> necessary. Some users also find that typing with the regular on-screen 
> keyboard (in landscape mode) is a joy, almost like typing on a small hardware 
> keyboard. I don't have a 6 Plus so can't comment personally. Anyway, here's 
> the excerpt:
> 
> The larger screen seems to many people to be, at first, a non-issue at best 
> and an annoyance at worst. If you can't see the screen, why would you want to 
> use a phone that has a huge one (I'm looking at you, 6 Plus)? You have to 
> figure out where to put this massive device, get used to your apps being even 
> bigger, figure out new layouts… Why bother? Aside from the fact that the 
> iPhone 6 is actually not much larger than the 5S (the screen is larger, but 
> there is less of a bezel), I can come up with a few reasons:
> 
> The larger screen means a larger phone, which means a larger battery. The 
> battery life on the iPhone 6 is better than the 5S, and the 6 Plus battery is 
> better than the 6. This is a win for all users, especially if you rely on 
> battery-draining GPS or audio apps. 
> You have more room on the screen for touch. If you are someone who touches 
> things instead of flicking to them, you might find you enjoy having  more 
> content (especially on webpages) available to you on a single screen. Even if 
> you flick instead of touch, you will be able to fit more text from, say, an 
> iBooks or Kindle book. That means more time between that pause while the page 
> is "turned".
> Low vision users will love this. Magnification apps, zoom, larger text,  
> and similar apps and services will have more room to play with, letting users 
> see more at once instead of needing to scroll so much.
> Another win for low vision users is Display Zoom, which will shrink the 
> current app down to a smaller size, then zoom it to the full size of the 
> iPhone's screen. This sounds confusing, but it has the effect of making an 
> app larger and easier to see.
> If you use Apple Maps, Ariadne, or other apps that offer accessible maps on 
> the screen, you will have a lot more room to explore said maps, even when 
> zoomed in.
> The iPhone 6 Plus supports special landscape views in certain apps. For 
> instance, in Mail, switching to landscape mode will show the list of messages 
> on the left, and the currently open message on the right, similar to an iPad. 
> You might find this increased content on a single screen more efficient.
>> On Jan 11, 2015, at 10:59 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> There's really no difference from an accessibility stand point, so most of 
>> the information you're looking for can be gahered by looking at specs and 
>> reviews in the main stream. That's not to say that you won't get plenty of 
>> opinions and information here on the list, but it's not the only source of 
>> information you're looking for. You'll get a lot just with Google.
>> 
>>> On 01/03/2015 05:13 PM, Eleanor Roberts wrote:
>>> Hi All
>>> 
>>> Just after some advice please. I'm currently using an IPhone 5S. However, 
>>> my contract is up for renewal and I'm entitled to an upgrade. So am looking 

Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

2015-01-12 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
OK,

Here's another question for those of you who use the Braille keyboard on the 6 
or 6plus.  If you don't use it on a tabletop, or in tabletop mode on your 
knees, however do you manage to hold it and get your fingers still to fit 
properly across the screen?

I was having a bit of a play today with the 6 and 6plus but I really don't 
quite envisage how I'll braille well and easily as I don't want to use table 
top mode or to work on a table.

Please give me your experiences on this one.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 4:09 PM
  Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?


  Some accessibility notes on why you might consider the larger screen of the 6 
Plus, taken from my article at:
  
http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-carriers-ios-iphone-news/recap-and-opinions-apples-fall-2014-announcements
  One thing the article doesn't mention is that the iPhone 6 Plus supports the 
Perkins style layout for braille screen input, no flattened V shape necessary. 
Some users also find that typing with the regular on-screen keyboard (in 
landscape mode) is a joy, almost like typing on a small hardware keyboard. I 
don't have a 6 Plus so can't comment personally. Anyway, here's the excerpt:


  The larger screen seems to many people to be, at first, a non-issue at best 
and an annoyance at worst. If you can't see the screen, why would you want to 
use a phone that has a huge one (I'm looking at you, 6 Plus)? You have to 
figure out where to put this massive device, get used to your apps being even 
bigger, figure out new layouts… Why bother? Aside from the fact that the iPhone 
6 is actually not much larger than the 5S (the screen is larger, but there is 
less of a bezel), I can come up with a few reasons:

a.. The larger screen means a larger phone, which means a larger battery. 
The battery life on the iPhone 6 is better than the 5S, and the 6 Plus battery 
is better than the 6. This is a win for all users, especially if you rely on 
battery-draining GPS or audio apps.
b.. You have more room on the screen for touch. If you are someone who 
touches things instead of flicking to them, you might find you enjoy having 
more content (especially on webpages) available to you on a single screen. Even 
if you flick instead of touch, you will be able to fit more text from, say, an 
iBooks or Kindle book. That means more time between that pause while the page 
is "turned".
c.. Low vision users will love this. Magnification apps, zoom, larger text, 
and similar apps and services will have more room to play with, letting users 
see more at once instead of needing to scroll so much.
d.. Another win for low vision users is Display Zoom, which will shrink the 
current app down to a smaller size, then zoom it to the full size of the 
iPhone's screen. This sounds confusing, but it has the effect of making an app 
larger and easier to see.
e.. If you use Apple Maps, Ariadne, or other apps that offer accessible 
maps on the screen, you will have a lot more room to explore said maps, even 
when zoomed in.
f.. The iPhone 6 Plus supports special landscape views in certain apps. For 
instance, in Mail, switching to landscape mode will show the list of messages 
on the left, and the currently open message on the right, similar to an iPad. 
You might find this increased content on a single screen more efficient.
g.. 
On Jan 11, 2015, at 10:59 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
wrote:


There's really no difference from an accessibility stand point, so most of 
the information you're looking for can be gahered by looking at specs and 
reviews in the main stream. That's not to say that you won't get plenty of 
opinions and information here on the list, but it's not the only source of 
information you're looking for. You'll get a lot just with Google.

On 01/03/2015 05:13 PM, Eleanor Roberts wrote:

  Hi All

  Just after some advice please. I'm currently using an IPhone 5S. However, 
my contract is up for renewal and I'm entitled to an upgrade. So am looking at 
either  the 6 or 6+. So can anyone tell me of  any pros and cons or advantages 
and disadvantages related to either of these phones? Does anyone have a view on 
which one works better? Which one is easier for someone with no sight at all to 
deal with? Are there any big problems with either of them which I need to be 
aware of? Are there any major differences between the 5S and either the 6 or 6+ 
which I need to know about? Any other useful information anyone can give me 
about them?

  Sorry for all the questions which are probably really obvious I know, but 
I really want to go into the phone shop able to make an informed choice which 
is sensible and which will work for me. So any advice at all really very much 
apprec

Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

2015-01-11 Thread Kelly Pierce
Multiple rumors are circulating that Apple will be re-introducing a
4-inch iPhone in addition to the two current screen sizes.  If you
really like the size of your 5s, stay off contract until there is
clarity on this issue.  you can have a small screen size without
staying retro.

Kelly



On 1/11/15, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> The gain that you would achieve from migrating to the 6 would be minimal. If
>
> you would like a larger phone, that might be a consideration for going for
> the 6 plus.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eleanor Roberts
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 3:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?
>
> Hi All
>
> Just after some advice please. I'm currently using an IPhone 5S. However, my
>
> contract is up for renewal and I'm entitled to an upgrade. So am looking at
>
> either  the 6 or 6+. So can anyone tell me of  any pros and cons or
> advantages and disadvantages related to either of these phones? Does anyone
>
> have a view on which one works better? Which one is easier for someone with
>
> no sight at all to deal with? Are there any big problems with either of them
>
> which I need to be aware of? Are there any major differences between the 5S
>
> and either the 6 or 6+ which I need to know about? Any other useful
> information anyone can give me about them?
>
> Sorry for all the questions which are probably really obvious I know, but I
>
> really want to go into the phone shop able to make an informed choice which
>
> is sensible and which will work for me. So any advice at all really very
> much appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Eleanor
>
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

2015-01-11 Thread Andy Baracco
The gain that you would achieve from migrating to the 6 would be minimal. If 
you would like a larger phone, that might be a consideration for going for 
the 6 plus.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Eleanor Roberts

Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

Hi All

Just after some advice please. I'm currently using an IPhone 5S. However, my 
contract is up for renewal and I'm entitled to an upgrade. So am looking at 
either  the 6 or 6+. So can anyone tell me of  any pros and cons or 
advantages and disadvantages related to either of these phones? Does anyone 
have a view on which one works better? Which one is easier for someone with 
no sight at all to deal with? Are there any big problems with either of them 
which I need to be aware of? Are there any major differences between the 5S 
and either the 6 or 6+ which I need to know about? Any other useful 
information anyone can give me about them?


Sorry for all the questions which are probably really obvious I know, but I 
really want to go into the phone shop able to make an informed choice which 
is sensible and which will work for me. So any advice at all really very 
much appreciated.


Thanks.

Eleanor

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Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

2015-01-11 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
I can understand the advantage of the Perkins style keyboard but, if you have 
got used to brailling with the 4S in landscape mode and grippinng the phone 
with thumbs, I'm not sure the larger phone will necessarily gain anything for 
me anyway, but I'm watching the space and intend to look again at both before 
deciding on size.  For me, although there is a decidedly better battery span on 
the plus, it's more important that I get the right size.

I'm not a great fan of split screens either, so will look again at this in the 
mail app in particular.

Thanks for the info.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 4:09 PM
  Subject: Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?


  Some accessibility notes on why you might consider the larger screen of the 6 
Plus, taken from my article at:
  
http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-carriers-ios-iphone-news/recap-and-opinions-apples-fall-2014-announcements
  One thing the article doesn't mention is that the iPhone 6 Plus supports the 
Perkins style layout for braille screen input, no flattened V shape necessary. 
Some users also find that typing with the regular on-screen keyboard (in 
landscape mode) is a joy, almost like typing on a small hardware keyboard. I 
don't have a 6 Plus so can't comment personally. Anyway, here's the excerpt:


  The larger screen seems to many people to be, at first, a non-issue at best 
and an annoyance at worst. If you can't see the screen, why would you want to 
use a phone that has a huge one (I'm looking at you, 6 Plus)? You have to 
figure out where to put this massive device, get used to your apps being even 
bigger, figure out new layouts… Why bother? Aside from the fact that the iPhone 
6 is actually not much larger than the 5S (the screen is larger, but there is 
less of a bezel), I can come up with a few reasons:

a.. The larger screen means a larger phone, which means a larger battery. 
The battery life on the iPhone 6 is better than the 5S, and the 6 Plus battery 
is better than the 6. This is a win for all users, especially if you rely on 
battery-draining GPS or audio apps.
b.. You have more room on the screen for touch. If you are someone who 
touches things instead of flicking to them, you might find you enjoy having 
more content (especially on webpages) available to you on a single screen. Even 
if you flick instead of touch, you will be able to fit more text from, say, an 
iBooks or Kindle book. That means more time between that pause while the page 
is "turned".
c.. Low vision users will love this. Magnification apps, zoom, larger text, 
and similar apps and services will have more room to play with, letting users 
see more at once instead of needing to scroll so much.
d.. Another win for low vision users is Display Zoom, which will shrink the 
current app down to a smaller size, then zoom it to the full size of the 
iPhone's screen. This sounds confusing, but it has the effect of making an app 
larger and easier to see.
e.. If you use Apple Maps, Ariadne, or other apps that offer accessible 
maps on the screen, you will have a lot more room to explore said maps, even 
when zoomed in.
f.. The iPhone 6 Plus supports special landscape views in certain apps. For 
instance, in Mail, switching to landscape mode will show the list of messages 
on the left, and the currently open message on the right, similar to an iPad. 
You might find this increased content on a single screen more efficient.
g.. 
On Jan 11, 2015, at 10:59 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
wrote:


There's really no difference from an accessibility stand point, so most of 
the information you're looking for can be gahered by looking at specs and 
reviews in the main stream. That's not to say that you won't get plenty of 
opinions and information here on the list, but it's not the only source of 
information you're looking for. You'll get a lot just with Google.

On 01/03/2015 05:13 PM, Eleanor Roberts wrote:

  Hi All

  Just after some advice please. I'm currently using an IPhone 5S. However, 
my contract is up for renewal and I'm entitled to an upgrade. So am looking at 
either  the 6 or 6+. So can anyone tell me of  any pros and cons or advantages 
and disadvantages related to either of these phones? Does anyone have a view on 
which one works better? Which one is easier for someone with no sight at all to 
deal with? Are there any big problems with either of them which I need to be 
aware of? Are there any major differences between the 5S and either the 6 or 6+ 
which I need to know about? Any other useful information anyone can give me 
about them?

  Sorry for all the questions which are probably really obvious I know, but 
I really want to go into the phone shop able to make an informed choice which 
is sensible

Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

2015-01-11 Thread Alex Hall
Some accessibility notes on why you might consider the larger screen of the 6 
Plus, taken from my article at:
http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-carriers-ios-iphone-news/recap-and-opinions-apples-fall-2014-announcements
One thing the article doesn't mention is that the iPhone 6 Plus supports the 
Perkins style layout for braille screen input, no flattened V shape necessary. 
Some users also find that typing with the regular on-screen keyboard (in 
landscape mode) is a joy, almost like typing on a small hardware keyboard. I 
don't have a 6 Plus so can't comment personally. Anyway, here's the excerpt:

The larger screen seems to many people to be, at first, a non-issue at best and 
an annoyance at worst. If you can't see the screen, why would you want to use a 
phone that has a huge one (I'm looking at you, 6 Plus)? You have to figure out 
where to put this massive device, get used to your apps being even bigger, 
figure out new layouts… Why bother? Aside from the fact that the iPhone 6 is 
actually not much larger than the 5S (the screen is larger, but there is less 
of a bezel), I can come up with a few reasons:

The larger screen means a larger phone, which means a larger battery. The 
battery life on the iPhone 6 is better than the 5S, and the 6 Plus battery is 
better than the 6. This is a win for all users, especially if you rely on 
battery-draining GPS or audio apps.
You have more room on the screen for touch. If you are someone who touches 
things instead of flicking to them, you might find you enjoy having more 
content (especially on webpages) available to you on a single screen. Even if 
you flick instead of touch, you will be able to fit more text from, say, an 
iBooks or Kindle book. That means more time between that pause while the page 
is "turned".
Low vision users will love this. Magnification apps, zoom, larger text, and 
similar apps and services will have more room to play with, letting users see 
more at once instead of needing to scroll so much.
Another win for low vision users is Display Zoom, which will shrink the current 
app down to a smaller size, then zoom it to the full size of the iPhone's 
screen. This sounds confusing, but it has the effect of making an app larger 
and easier to see.
If you use Apple Maps, Ariadne, or other apps that offer accessible maps on the 
screen, you will have a lot more room to explore said maps, even when zoomed in.
The iPhone 6 Plus supports special landscape views in certain apps. For 
instance, in Mail, switching to landscape mode will show the list of messages 
on the left, and the currently open message on the right, similar to an iPad. 
You might find this increased content on a single screen more efficient.
> On Jan 11, 2015, at 10:59 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> There's really no difference from an accessibility stand point, so most of 
> the information you're looking for can be gahered by looking at specs and 
> reviews in the main stream. That's not to say that you won't get plenty of 
> opinions and information here on the list, but it's not the only source of 
> information you're looking for. You'll get a lot just with Google.
> 
> On 01/03/2015 05:13 PM, Eleanor Roberts wrote:
>> Hi All
>> 
>> Just after some advice please. I'm currently using an IPhone 5S. However, my 
>> contract is up for renewal and I'm entitled to an upgrade. So am looking at 
>> either  the 6 or 6+. So can anyone tell me of  any pros and cons or 
>> advantages and disadvantages related to either of these phones? Does anyone 
>> have a view on which one works better? Which one is easier for someone with 
>> no sight at all to deal with? Are there any big problems with either of them 
>> which I need to be aware of? Are there any major differences between the 5S 
>> and either the 6 or 6+ which I need to know about? Any other useful 
>> information anyone can give me about them?
>> 
>> Sorry for all the questions which are probably really obvious I know, but I 
>> really want to go into the phone shop able to make an informed choice which 
>> is sensible and which will work for me. So any advice at all really very 
>> much appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Eleanor
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
> 
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Re: Query re upgrading to IPhone 6 or 6+?

2015-01-11 Thread Christopher Chaltain
There's really no difference from an accessibility stand point, so most 
of the information you're looking for can be gahered by looking at specs 
and reviews in the main stream. That's not to say that you won't get 
plenty of opinions and information here on the list, but it's not the 
only source of information you're looking for. You'll get a lot just 
with Google.


On 01/03/2015 05:13 PM, Eleanor Roberts wrote:

Hi All

Just after some advice please. I'm currently using an IPhone 5S. However, my 
contract is up for renewal and I'm entitled to an upgrade. So am looking at 
either  the 6 or 6+. So can anyone tell me of  any pros and cons or advantages 
and disadvantages related to either of these phones? Does anyone have a view on 
which one works better? Which one is easier for someone with no sight at all to 
deal with? Are there any big problems with either of them which I need to be 
aware of? Are there any major differences between the 5S and either the 6 or 6+ 
which I need to know about? Any other useful information anyone can give me 
about them?

Sorry for all the questions which are probably really obvious I know, but I 
really want to go into the phone shop able to make an informed choice which is 
sensible and which will work for me. So any advice at all really very much 
appreciated.

Thanks.

Eleanor

Sent from my iPad



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