Re: Question on iPad mini

2016-10-28 Thread Mary Otten
You know, I don't remember when the iPad one was released. It was when Steve 
Jobs was there. I purchased mine the following year, right when the iPad 2 came 
out. The iPad one dropped seriously in price, and I got a good deal from AT&T 
on one. It is stuck on iOS five point something.
Of course it has the old 30 pin connector. It really feels heavy now and thick. 
How the times have changed.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2016, at 1:21 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> When was that even released? And what IOS can it handle? As for the battery, 
> you can always use it off charge, when the battery goes.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Mary Otten  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:15 pm
> Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini
> 
>> 
>> 
>> You could be right. Believe it or not, I still have an original iPad. Now if 
>> you want to talk about slow, that's it. It is useless except for playing 
>> audiobooks from audible. That's all I use it for. I'm just waiting for the 
>> battery to die. I can't believe it still works after all this time.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> Whoa, OK, yeah, that, I'll give you. I still have my trusty 5S, with a 
>>> loose, although never dropped screen, as well as the iPad air, so compared 
>>> to those, mine are slow. As for voice dream, never used it, so can't 
>>> comment on it. Think you're just used to things happening faster, rather 
>>> than the things slowing down, if I make sense. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Mary Otten  
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:59 pm
>>> Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Well,Rajmund, maybe you are just more patient than I am. It just seems 
>>>> like applications are taking quite a while to open these days, as compared 
>>>> to my iPhone 7 Plus or even the 6S, which I had before I turned it in in 
>>>> favor of the 7+. I am also having a lot of trouble with voice dream reader 
>>>> on my mini two, crashing, slow opening, app freezing, etc. I am not having 
>>>> this problem on my iPhone 7 Plus, and I didn't have it on my iPhone 6s. Of 
>>>> course, I suspect that Ed's grandkids won't be using that app. So, the 
>>>> mini two still works, I just think it's showing it's age.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Mary,
>>>>> Interesting. My air, till I downgraded, was just fine on 10, and that's 
>>>>> the same age  as your mini 2. Wonder why they don't perform the same way?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: Mary Otten  
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:40 pm
>>>>> Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have a mini too. Now I am sure your grandkids are not going to be 
>>>>>> using voiceover, and maybe that will help. The mini two is getting slow. 
>>>>>> It still works, although I feel confident that it has just seen its last 
>>>>>> update.. I feel sure that when the new iOS comes out next year, the mini 
>>>>>> two will not be on board. Can't prove it of course. I also understand 
>>>>>> that you probably don't want to buy a really expensive thing for kids, 
>>>>>> depending on how old they are and how will they take care of stuff. But 
>>>>>> the mini four should have more years of upgrade in it than the mini 
>>>>>> twoo, at least one more year.. And there might be good deals on that 
>>>>>> coming down the line.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Sieghard,

Re: Question on iPad mini

2016-10-28 Thread Rajmund
When was that even released? And what IOS can it handle? As for the battery, 
you can always use it off charge, when the battery goes.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Mary Otten  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:15 pm
Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini

>
>
> You could be right. Believe it or not, I still have an original iPad. Now if 
> you want to talk about slow, that's it. It is useless except for playing 
> audiobooks from audible. That's all I use it for. I'm just waiting for the 
> battery to die. I can't believe it still works after all this time.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 28, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Mary,
> > Whoa, OK, yeah, that, I'll give you. I still have my trusty 5S, with a 
> > loose, although never dropped screen, as well as the iPad air, so compared 
> > to those, mine are slow. As for voice dream, never used it, so can't 
> > comment on it. Think you're just used to things happening faster, rather 
> > than the things slowing down, if I make sense. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from a Braille Sense 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -
> > From: Mary Otten  
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:59 pm
> > Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Well,Rajmund, maybe you are just more patient than I am. It just seems 
> >> like applications are taking quite a while to open these days, as compared 
> >> to my iPhone 7 Plus or even the 6S, which I had before I turned it in in 
> >> favor of the 7+. I am also having a lot of trouble with voice dream reader 
> >> on my mini two, crashing, slow opening, app freezing, etc. I am not having 
> >> this problem on my iPhone 7 Plus, and I didn't have it on my iPhone 6s. Of 
> >> course, I suspect that Ed's grandkids won't be using that app. So, the 
> >> mini two still works, I just think it's showing it's age.
> >> Mary
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Mary,
> >>> Interesting. My air, till I downgraded, was just fine on 10, and that's 
> >>> the same age  as your mini 2. Wonder why they don't perform the same way?
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> >>> 
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: Mary Otten  
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:40 pm
> >>> Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I have a mini too. Now I am sure your grandkids are not going to be 
> >>>> using voiceover, and maybe that will help. The mini two is getting slow. 
> >>>> It still works, although I feel confident that it has just seen its last 
> >>>> update.. I feel sure that when the new iOS comes out next year, the mini 
> >>>> two will not be on board. Can't prove it of course. I also understand 
> >>>> that you probably don't want to buy a really expensive thing for kids, 
> >>>> depending on how old they are and how will they take care of stuff. But 
> >>>> the mini four should have more years of upgrade in it than the mini 
> >>>> twoo, at least one more year.. And there might be good deals on that 
> >>>> coming down the line.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Hi Sieghard,
> >>>>> Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give 
> >>>>> information to my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a 
> >>>>> couple iPad Mini 2. They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There 
> >>>>> is not a lot of different between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip 
> >>>>> and the 4 has an a8..
> >>>>> Once again thanks for the info.
> >>>>> Ed
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> >>>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM
> >>>>> To: vipho

Re: Question on iPad mini

2016-10-28 Thread Rajmund
Hi Mary,
Whoa, OK, yeah, that, I'll give you. I still have my trusty 5S, with a loose, 
although never dropped screen, as well as the iPad air, so compared to those, 
mine are slow. As for voice dream, never used it, so can't comment on it. Think 
you're just used to things happening faster, rather than the things slowing 
down, if I make sense. 



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Mary Otten  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:59 pm
Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini

>
>
> Well,Rajmund, maybe you are just more patient than I am. It just seems like 
> applications are taking quite a while to open these days, as compared to my 
> iPhone 7 Plus or even the 6S, which I had before I turned it in in favor of 
> the 7+. I am also having a lot of trouble with voice dream reader on my mini 
> two, crashing, slow opening, app freezing, etc. I am not having this problem 
> on my iPhone 7 Plus, and I didn't have it on my iPhone 6s. Of course, I 
> suspect that Ed's grandkids won't be using that app. So, the mini two still 
> works, I just think it's showing it's age.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 28, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Mary,
> > Interesting. My air, till I downgraded, was just fine on 10, and that's the 
> > same age  as your mini 2. Wonder why they don't perform the same way?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from a Braille Sense 
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Mary Otten  
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:40 pm
> > Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I have a mini too. Now I am sure your grandkids are not going to be using 
> >> voiceover, and maybe that will help. The mini two is getting slow. It 
> >> still works, although I feel confident that it has just seen its last 
> >> update. I feel sure that when the new iOS comes out next year, the mini 
> >> two will not be on board. Can't prove it of course. I also understand that 
> >> you probably don't want to buy a really expensive thing for kids, 
> >> depending on how old they are and how will they take care of stuff. But 
> >> the mini four should have more years of upgrade in it than the mini twoo, 
> >> at least one more year. And there might be good deals on that coming down 
> >> the line.
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Sieghard,
> >>> Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give 
> >>> information to my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a 
> >>> couple iPad Mini 2. They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There is 
> >>> not a lot of different between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip and 
> >>> the 4 has an a8.
> >>> Once again thanks for the info.
> >>> Ed
> >>> 
> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> >>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> >>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: RE: Question on iPad mini
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Ed,
> >>> 
> >>> If you ever want information about the models and release dates of 
> >>> iDevices just Google, to use your example of the iPad: "iPad Mini models 
> >>> and release info"
> >>> This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search 
> >>> results and here you find this information in a concise and
> >>> easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the iPad 
> >>> Mini 4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, it has 
> >>> the best chip, best camera, support for the highest bluetooth version and 
> >>> the most RAM as well as support for WiFi 802.11AC. Apple still may sell 
> >>> the iPad Mini 3, but I doubt they still officially sell the Ipad Mini 2 
> >>> and definitely not the first generation. Here now the information:
> >>> 
> >>> Developer: Apple Inc.
> >>> Manufacturer: Foxconn, Pegatron[1]
> >>> Product family: iPad
> >>> Type: Tablet computer
> >>> 
> >>> Release date
> >>> 1st generation: November 2, 2012
> >>> 2: November 12, 2013
> >>> 3: October 22, 2014
> >>> 4: Septemb

Re: Question on iPad mini

2016-10-28 Thread Mary Otten
You could be right. Believe it or not, I still have an original iPad. Now if 
you want to talk about slow, that's it. It is useless except for playing 
audiobooks from audible. That's all I use it for. I'm just waiting for the 
battery to die. I can't believe it still works after all this time.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> Whoa, OK, yeah, that, I'll give you. I still have my trusty 5S, with a loose, 
> although never dropped screen, as well as the iPad air, so compared to those, 
> mine are slow. As for voice dream, never used it, so can't comment on it. 
> Think you're just used to things happening faster, rather than the things 
> slowing down, if I make sense. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Mary Otten  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:59 pm
> Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Well,Rajmund, maybe you are just more patient than I am. It just seems like 
>> applications are taking quite a while to open these days, as compared to my 
>> iPhone 7 Plus or even the 6S, which I had before I turned it in in favor of 
>> the 7+. I am also having a lot of trouble with voice dream reader on my mini 
>> two, crashing, slow opening, app freezing, etc. I am not having this problem 
>> on my iPhone 7 Plus, and I didn't have it on my iPhone 6s. Of course, I 
>> suspect that Ed's grandkids won't be using that app. So, the mini two still 
>> works, I just think it's showing it's age.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> Interesting. My air, till I downgraded, was just fine on 10, and that's the 
>>> same age  as your mini 2. Wonder why they don't perform the same way?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Mary Otten  
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:40 pm
>>> Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I have a mini too. Now I am sure your grandkids are not going to be using 
>>>> voiceover, and maybe that will help. The mini two is getting slow. It 
>>>> still works, although I feel confident that it has just seen its last 
>>>> update. I feel sure that when the new iOS comes out next year, the mini 
>>>> two will not be on board. Can't prove it of course. I also understand that 
>>>> you probably don't want to buy a really expensive thing for kids, 
>>>> depending on how old they are and how will they take care of stuff. But 
>>>> the mini four should have more years of upgrade in it than the mini twoo, 
>>>> at least one more year. And there might be good deals on that coming down 
>>>> the line.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Sieghard,
>>>>> Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give 
>>>>> information to my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a 
>>>>> couple iPad Mini 2. They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There is 
>>>>> not a lot of different between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip and 
>>>>> the 4 has an a8.
>>>>> Once again thanks for the info.
>>>>> Ed
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: Question on iPad mini
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Ed,
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you ever want information about the models and release dates of 
>>>>> iDevices just Google, to use your example of the iPad: "iPad Mini models 
>>>>> and release info"
>>>>> This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search 
>>>>> results and here you find this information in a concise and
>>>>> easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the iPad 
>>>>> Mini 4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, it has 
>>>>> the 

Re: Question on iPad mini

2016-10-28 Thread Mary Otten
Well,Rajmund, maybe you are just more patient than I am. It just seems like 
applications are taking quite a while to open these days, as compared to my 
iPhone 7 Plus or even the 6S, which I had before I turned it in in favor of the 
7+. I am also having a lot of trouble with voice dream reader on my mini two, 
crashing, slow opening, app freezing, etc. I am not having this problem on my 
iPhone 7 Plus, and I didn't have it on my iPhone 6s. Of course, I suspect that 
Ed's grandkids won't be using that app. So, the mini two still works, I just 
think it's showing it's age.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> Interesting. My air, till I downgraded, was just fine on 10, and that's the 
> same age  as your mini 2. Wonder why they don't perform the same way?
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Mary Otten  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:40 pm
> Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have a mini too. Now I am sure your grandkids are not going to be using 
>> voiceover, and maybe that will help. The mini two is getting slow. It still 
>> works, although I feel confident that it has just seen its last update. I 
>> feel sure that when the new iOS comes out next year, the mini two will not 
>> be on board. Can't prove it of course. I also understand that you probably 
>> don't want to buy a really expensive thing for kids, depending on how old 
>> they are and how will they take care of stuff. But the mini four should have 
>> more years of upgrade in it than the mini twoo, at least one more year. And 
>> there might be good deals on that coming down the line.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sieghard,
>>> Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give information 
>>> to my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a couple iPad Mini 
>>> 2. They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There is not a lot of 
>>> different between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip and the 4 has an a8.
>>> Once again thanks for the info.
>>> Ed
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Question on iPad mini
>>> 
>>> Hi Ed,
>>> 
>>> If you ever want information about the models and release dates of iDevices 
>>> just Google, to use your example of the iPad: "iPad Mini models and release 
>>> info"
>>> This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search results 
>>> and here you find this information in a concise and
>>> easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the iPad 
>>> Mini 4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, it has the 
>>> best chip, best camera, support for the highest bluetooth version and the 
>>> most RAM as well as support for WiFi 802.11AC. Apple still may sell the 
>>> iPad Mini 3, but I doubt they still officially sell the Ipad Mini 2 and 
>>> definitely not the first generation. Here now the information:
>>> 
>>> Developer: Apple Inc.
>>> Manufacturer: Foxconn, Pegatron[1]
>>> Product family: iPad
>>> Type: Tablet computer
>>> 
>>> Release date
>>> 1st generation: November 2, 2012
>>> 2: November 12, 2013
>>> 3: October 22, 2014
>>> 4: September 9, 2015
>>> 
>>> Operating system: iOS
>>> 
>>> System-on-chip used
>>> 1st generation: Apple A5 (2nd generation: 32nm)
>>> 2 & 3: Apple A7 (with Apple M7 motion co-processor)
>>> 4: Apple A8 (with Apple M8 motion co-processor)
>>> 
>>> CPU
>>> 1st generation: 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9
>>> 2 & 3: 1.3 GHz dual-core Apple Cyclone
>>> 4: 1.5 GHz dual-core Apple Typhoon
>>> 
>>> Memory
>>> 1st generation: 512 MB DDR2 RAM
>>> 2 & 3: 1024 MB LPDDR3 RAM
>>> 4: 2048 MB RAM
>>> 
>>> Storage
>>> 1st generation: 16, 32, or 64 GB flash memory
>>> 2: 16, 32, 64, or 128 GB flash memory[2]
>>> 3 & 4: 16, 64, or 128 GB flash memory
>>> 
>>> Display
>>> 7.9-inch (200.66 mm) diagonal LED-backlit Multi-Touch display with IPS 
>>> technology, at 4:3 aspect r

Re: Question on iPad mini

2016-10-28 Thread Rajmund
Hi Mary,
Interesting. My air, till I downgraded, was just fine on 10, and that's the 
same age  as your mini 2. Wonder why they don't perform the same way?



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Mary Otten  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:40 pm
Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini

>
>
> I have a mini too. Now I am sure your grandkids are not going to be using 
> voiceover, and maybe that will help. The mini two is getting slow. It still 
> works, although I feel confident that it has just seen its last update. I 
> feel sure that when the new iOS comes out next year, the mini two will not be 
> on board. Can't prove it of course. I also understand that you probably don't 
> want to buy a really expensive thing for kids, depending on how old they are 
> and how will they take care of stuff. But the mini four should have more 
> years of upgrade in it than the mini twoo, at least one more year. And there 
> might be good deals on that coming down the line.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Sieghard,
> > Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give information 
> > to my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a couple iPad Mini 
> > 2. They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There is not a lot of 
> > different between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip and the 4 has an a8.
> > Once again thanks for the info.
> > Ed
> >  
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Sieghard Weitzel
> > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: Question on iPad mini
> >  
> > Hi Ed,
> >  
> > If you ever want information about the models and release dates of iDevices 
> > just Google, to use your example of the iPad: "iPad Mini models and release 
> > info"
> > This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search results 
> > and here you find this information in a concise and
> > easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the iPad 
> > Mini 4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, it has the 
> > best chip, best camera, support for the highest bluetooth version and the 
> > most RAM as well as support for WiFi 802.11AC. Apple still may sell the 
> > iPad Mini 3, but I doubt they still officially sell the Ipad Mini 2 and 
> > definitely not the first generation. Here now the information:
> >  
> > Developer: Apple Inc.
> > Manufacturer: Foxconn, Pegatron[1]
> > Product family: iPad
> > Type: Tablet computer
> >  
> > Release date
> > 1st generation: November 2, 2012
> > 2: November 12, 2013
> > 3: October 22, 2014
> > 4: September 9, 2015
> >  
> > Operating system: iOS
> >  
> > System-on-chip used
> > 1st generation: Apple A5 (2nd generation: 32nm)
> > 2 & 3: Apple A7 (with Apple M7 motion co-processor)
> > 4: Apple A8 (with Apple M8 motion co-processor)
> >  
> > CPU
> > 1st generation: 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9
> > 2 & 3: 1.3 GHz dual-core Apple Cyclone
> > 4: 1.5 GHz dual-core Apple Typhoon
> >  
> > Memory
> > 1st generation: 512 MB DDR2 RAM
> > 2 & 3: 1024 MB LPDDR3 RAM
> > 4: 2048 MB RAM
> >  
> > Storage
> > 1st generation: 16, 32, or 64 GB flash memory
> > 2: 16, 32, 64, or 128 GB flash memory[2]
> > 3 & 4: 16, 64, or 128 GB flash memory
> >  
> > Display
> > 7.9-inch (200.66 mm) diagonal LED-backlit Multi-Touch display with IPS 
> > technology, at 4:3 aspect ratio
> > 1st generation: 1024×768 px at 163 ppi
> > 2, 3 & 4: 2048×1536 pixels at 326 ppi (Retina Display)
> > 4: Fully laminated display, antireflective coating
> >  
> > Graphics
> > 1st generation: PowerVR SGX543MP2
> > 2 & 3: Quad-core PowerVR G6430
> > 4: Quad-core PowerVR GX6450
> >  
> > Input
> > Multi-touch screen, headset controls, proximity and ambient light sensors, 
> > 3-axis accelerometer, gyroscope, digital compass
> >  
> > Camera
> > 1st generation, 2 & 3: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 5MP
> > 4: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 8MP
> >  
> > Connectivity
> > 1st generation, 2 & 3: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
> > 4: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
> > 1st generation, 2 & 3: Bluetooth 4.0
> > 4: Bluetooth 4.2
> >  
> > GSM: LTE  (700, 2100 (Band 4) MHz)   .  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-H

Re: Question on iPad mini

2016-10-28 Thread Mary Otten
I have a mini too. Now I am sure your grandkids are not going to be using 
voiceover, and maybe that will help. The mini two is getting slow. It still 
works, although I feel confident that it has just seen its last update. I feel 
sure that when the new iOS comes out next year, the mini two will not be on 
board. Can't prove it of course. I also understand that you probably don't want 
to buy a really expensive thing for kids, depending on how old they are and how 
will they take care of stuff. But the mini four should have more years of 
upgrade in it than the mini twoo, at least one more year. And there might be 
good deals on that coming down the line.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sieghard,
> Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give information 
> to my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a couple iPad Mini 
> 2. They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There is not a lot of 
> different between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip and the 4 has an a8.
> Once again thanks for the info.
> Ed
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question on iPad mini
>  
> Hi Ed,
>  
> If you ever want information about the models and release dates of iDevices 
> just Google, to use your example of the iPad: “iPad Mini models and release 
> info”
> This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search results 
> and here you find this information in a concise and
> easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the iPad 
> Mini 4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, it has the 
> best chip, best camera, support for the highest bluetooth version and the 
> most RAM as well as support for WiFi 802.11AC. Apple still may sell the iPad 
> Mini 3, but I doubt they still officially sell the Ipad Mini 2 and definitely 
> not the first generation. Here now the information:
>  
> Developer: Apple Inc.
> Manufacturer: Foxconn, Pegatron[1]
> Product family: iPad
> Type: Tablet computer
>  
> Release date
> 1st generation: November 2, 2012
> 2: November 12, 2013
> 3: October 22, 2014
> 4: September 9, 2015
>  
> Operating system: iOS
>  
> System-on-chip used
> 1st generation: Apple A5 (2nd generation: 32nm)
> 2 & 3: Apple A7 (with Apple M7 motion co-processor)
> 4: Apple A8 (with Apple M8 motion co-processor)
>  
> CPU
> 1st generation: 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9
> 2 & 3: 1.3 GHz dual-core Apple Cyclone
> 4: 1.5 GHz dual-core Apple Typhoon
>  
> Memory
> 1st generation: 512 MB DDR2 RAM
> 2 & 3: 1024 MB LPDDR3 RAM
> 4: 2048 MB RAM
>  
> Storage
> 1st generation: 16, 32, or 64 GB flash memory
> 2: 16, 32, 64, or 128 GB flash memory[2]
> 3 & 4: 16, 64, or 128 GB flash memory
>  
> Display
> 7.9-inch (200.66 mm) diagonal LED-backlit Multi-Touch display with IPS 
> technology, at 4:3 aspect ratio
> 1st generation: 1024×768 px at 163 ppi
> 2, 3 & 4: 2048×1536 pixels at 326 ppi (Retina Display)
> 4: Fully laminated display, antireflective coating
>  
> Graphics
> 1st generation: PowerVR SGX543MP2
> 2 & 3: Quad-core PowerVR G6430
> 4: Quad-core PowerVR GX6450
>  
> Input
> Multi-touch screen, headset controls, proximity and ambient light sensors, 
> 3-axis accelerometer, gyroscope, digital compass
>  
> Camera
> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 5MP
> 4: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 8MP
>  
> Connectivity
> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
> 4: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Bluetooth 4.0
> 4: Bluetooth 4.2
>  
> GSM: LTE  (700, 2100 (Band 4) MHz)   ·  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 900, 
> 1900, 2100 MHz)   ·  GSM / EDGE  (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)  
> CDMA: LTE  (750, 850, 1800, 1900, 2100 (Band 1) MHz)   ·  CDMA / EV-DO Rev. A 
> & B  (800, 1900, 2100 MHz)   ·  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 900, 1900, 
> 2100 MHz)   ·  GSM / EDGE  (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)   
>  
> Power
> 1st generation: 3.72 V 16.5 W·h (4440 mA·h)
> 2 & 3: 3.75 V 24.3 W·h (6471 mA·h)
> 4: 3.82 V 19.32 W·h (5124 mA·h)
>  
> Online services: App Store, iTunes, Game Center, iCloud, FaceTime, iMessage
>  
> Dimensions
> 1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.1 mm)
> 1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.1 mm)
> 2 & 3: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.29 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.4 mm)
> 4: 8.0 in × 5.3 in × 0.24 in (203.2 mm × 134.6 m
>  
>  
> W

RE: Question on iPad mini

2016-10-28 Thread Mr. Ed
Hi Sieghard,

Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give information to 
my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a couple iPad Mini 2. 
They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There is not a lot of different 
between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip and the 4 has an a8.

Once again thanks for the info.

Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question on iPad mini

 

Hi Ed,

 

If you ever want information about the models and release dates of iDevices 
just Google, to use your example of the iPad: “iPad Mini models and release 
info”

This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search results and 
here you find this information in a concise and 

easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the iPad Mini 
4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, it has the best 
chip, best camera, support for the highest bluetooth version and the most RAM 
as well as support for WiFi 802.11AC. Apple still may sell the iPad Mini 3, but 
I doubt they still officially sell the Ipad Mini 2 and definitely not the first 
generation. Here now the information:

 

Developer: Apple Inc.

Manufacturer: Foxconn, Pegatron[1]

Product family: iPad

Type: Tablet computer

 

Release date

1st generation: November 2, 2012

2: November 12, 2013

3: October 22, 2014

4: September 9, 2015

 

Operating system: iOS

 

System-on-chip used

1st generation: Apple A5 (2nd generation: 32nm)

2 & 3: Apple A7 (with Apple M7 motion co-processor)

4: Apple A8 (with Apple M8 motion co-processor)

 

CPU

1st generation: 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9

2 & 3: 1.3 GHz dual-core Apple Cyclone

4: 1.5 GHz dual-core Apple Typhoon

 

Memory

1st generation: 512 MB DDR2 RAM

2 & 3: 1024 MB LPDDR3 RAM

4: 2048 MB RAM 

 

Storage

1st generation: 16, 32, or 64 GB flash memory

2: 16, 32, 64, or 128 GB flash memory[2]

3 & 4: 16, 64, or 128 GB flash memory 

 

Display

7.9-inch (200.66 mm) diagonal LED-backlit Multi-Touch display with IPS 
technology, at 4:3 aspect ratio

1st generation: 1024×768 px at 163 ppi

2, 3 & 4: 2048×1536 pixels at 326 ppi (Retina Display)

4: Fully laminated display, antireflective coating 

 

Graphics

1st generation: PowerVR SGX543MP2

2 & 3: Quad-core PowerVR G6430

4: Quad-core PowerVR GX6450 

 

Input

Multi-touch screen, headset controls, proximity and ambient light sensors, 
3-axis accelerometer, gyroscope, digital compass 

 

Camera

1st generation, 2 & 3: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 5MP

4: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 8MP 

 

Connectivity

1st generation, 2 & 3: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz

4: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz

1st generation, 2 & 3: Bluetooth 4.0

4: Bluetooth 4.2

 

GSM: LTE  (700, 2100 (Band 4) MHz)   ·  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 900, 
1900, 2100 MHz)   ·  GSM / EDGE  (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)   

CDMA: LTE  (750, 850, 1800, 1900, 2100 (Band 1) MHz)   ·  CDMA / EV-DO Rev. A & 
B  (800, 1900, 2100 MHz)   ·  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 900, 1900, 2100 
MHz)   ·  GSM / EDGE  (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

 

Power

1st generation: 3.72 V 16.5 W·h (4440 mA·h)

2 & 3: 3.75 V 24.3 W·h (6471 mA·h)

4: 3.82 V 19.32 W·h (5124 mA·h) 

 

Online services: App Store, iTunes, Game Center, iCloud, FaceTime, iMessage 

 

Dimensions

1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.1 mm)

1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.1 mm)

2 & 3: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.29 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.4 mm)

4: 8.0 in × 5.3 in × 0.24 in (203.2 mm × 134.6 m 

 

 

Weight

1st generation: Wi-Fi: 0.68 lb (308 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.69 lb (312 g)

2 & 3: Wi-Fi: 0.73 lb (330 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.75 lb (340 g)

4: Wi-Fi: 0.65 lb (298.8 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.67 lb (304 g)

 

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RE: Question on iPad mini

2016-10-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Ed,

If you ever want information about the models and release dates of iDevices 
just Google, to use your example of the iPad: “iPad Mini models and release 
info”
This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search results and 
here you find this information in a concise and
easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the iPad Mini 
4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, it has the best 
chip, best camera, support for the highest bluetooth version and the most RAM 
as well as support for WiFi 802.11AC. Apple still may sell the iPad Mini 3, but 
I doubt they still officially sell the Ipad Mini 2 and definitely not the first 
generation. Here now the information:

Developer: Apple Inc.
Manufacturer: Foxconn, Pegatron[1]
Product family: iPad
Type: Tablet computer

Release date
1st generation: November 2, 2012
2: November 12, 2013
3: October 22, 2014
4: September 9, 2015

Operating system: iOS

System-on-chip used
1st generation: Apple A5 (2nd generation: 32nm)
2 & 3: Apple A7 (with Apple M7 motion co-processor)
4: Apple A8 (with Apple M8 motion co-processor)

CPU
1st generation: 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9
2 & 3: 1.3 GHz dual-core Apple Cyclone
4: 1.5 GHz dual-core Apple Typhoon

Memory
1st generation: 512 MB DDR2 RAM
2 & 3: 1024 MB LPDDR3 RAM
4: 2048 MB RAM

Storage
1st generation: 16, 32, or 64 GB flash memory
2: 16, 32, 64, or 128 GB flash memory[2]
3 & 4: 16, 64, or 128 GB flash memory

Display
7.9-inch (200.66 mm) diagonal LED-backlit Multi-Touch display with IPS 
technology, at 4:3 aspect ratio
1st generation: 1024×768 px at 163 ppi
2, 3 & 4: 2048×1536 pixels at 326 ppi (Retina Display)
4: Fully laminated display, antireflective coating

Graphics
1st generation: PowerVR SGX543MP2
2 & 3: Quad-core PowerVR G6430
4: Quad-core PowerVR GX6450

Input
Multi-touch screen, headset controls, proximity and ambient light sensors, 
3-axis accelerometer, gyroscope, digital compass

Camera
1st generation, 2 & 3: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 5MP
4: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 8MP

Connectivity
1st generation, 2 & 3: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
4: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
1st generation, 2 & 3: Bluetooth 4.0
4: Bluetooth 4.2

GSM: LTE  (700, 2100 (Band 4) MHz)   ·  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 900, 
1900, 2100 MHz)   ·  GSM / EDGE  (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
CDMA: LTE  (750, 850, 1800, 1900, 2100 (Band 1) MHz)   ·  CDMA / EV-DO Rev. A & 
B  (800, 1900, 2100 MHz)   ·  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 900, 1900, 2100 
MHz)   ·  GSM / EDGE  (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

Power
1st generation: 3.72 V 16.5 W·h (4440 mA·h)
2 & 3: 3.75 V 24.3 W·h (6471 mA·h)
4: 3.82 V 19.32 W·h (5124 mA·h)

Online services: App Store, iTunes, Game Center, iCloud, FaceTime, iMessage

Dimensions
1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.1 mm)
1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.1 mm)
2 & 3: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.29 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.4 mm)
4: 8.0 in × 5.3 in × 0.24 in (203.2 mm × 134.6 m


Weight
1st generation: Wi-Fi: 0.68 lb (308 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.69 lb (312 g)
2 & 3: Wi-Fi: 0.73 lb (330 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.75 lb (340 g)
4: Wi-Fi: 0.65 lb (298.8 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.67 lb (304 g)

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Re: Question on iPad mini

2016-10-28 Thread Mary Otten
 Yes, the mini four came out last year. But it has the 2014 chip in it, which 
means it's two years old in terms of its core technology.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> They started out with the iPad mini 1. I don't think you will find that 
> though. I believe they started coming out with iPad minis in 2013. I could be 
> wrong. The latest one came out in 2015 called the iPad mini 4. I belie the 
> iPad mini 2 came out in 2014. Have a great day.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> 
> 
> Jennie Facer 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Mr. Ed  
> To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
> CC: 
> Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:03 am
> Subject: Question on iPad mini
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Group,
>> I am looking at an iPad Mini for my grandson.  Can someone tell me what the 
>> first iPad Mini was called. Another words was it an iPad Mini 2? I don't 
>> remember what model they started out with. Also which model is the latest 
>> one? Also can anyone give me what year the models came out. For example what 
>> year about did the iPad Mini 2 come out?
>> Thanks for any help on this.
>> Ed
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Re: Question on iPad mini

2016-10-28 Thread Jennie Facer
Hi Ed,

They started out with the iPad mini 1. I don't think you will find that though. 
I believe they started coming out with iPad minis in 2013. I could be wrong. 
The latest one came out in 2015 called the iPad mini 4. I belie the iPad mini 2 
came out in 2014. Have a great day.

Jenn



Jennie Facer 

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To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
CC: 
Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:03 am
Subject: Question on iPad mini

>
>
> Hi Group,
> I am looking at an iPad Mini for my grandson.  Can someone tell me what the 
> first iPad Mini was called. Another words was it an iPad Mini 2? I don't 
> remember what model they started out with. Also which model is the latest 
> one? Also can anyone give me what year the models came out. For example what 
> year about did the iPad Mini 2 come out?
> Thanks for any help on this.
> Ed
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