Re: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?

2013-06-18 Thread Sirena 
My mom uses the stylist for typing. She has a lot of trouble figuring out the 
keyboard any other way. The stylist gives her more control. Her nails might 
also get in the way. LOL. She's not the techiest person in the world and the 
stylist offers her some more control of where her fingers are going and what on 
earth they're doing. LOL

Si


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  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 4:29 PM
  Subject: RE: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?


  Tara,

   

  I doubt it is of much use for a blind person since you don't know exactly 
where you put the tip of your stylus. Sighted people use them sometimes for 
drawing, but I don't really know anybody personally how even uses one for 
typing on an iDevice. I guess if somebody had really huge fingers that it could 
be of some use. 

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tara Prakash
  Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 1:24 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?

   

  Styklus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users? 

  Dear all. I recently bought a cover for my iPhone five. It came with a pen. 
Do you think it is of some use for me? What do people use a stylus for? 

  Typed with Fleksy



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Re: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?

2013-06-18 Thread Ricardo Walker 
lol.

I stand corrected. :)

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On Jun 18, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Ricardo,
> 
> The touch screen on an iPhone is a "capacitive touch screen" which does not
> react to the moisture in your skin but to electrical conductivity. Skin and
> the human body as a whole is conductive. A stylus is made from material
> which transfer the conductivity of your finger/body through the material of
> the stylus to the touch screen. This is the same principal as is found in
> touch screen friendly gloves which also exist and it is also the same as
> when I put my iPhone into a zip lock bag so I can use my recipe app in the
> kitchen and use it with fingers that are greasy, wet, full of flour etc.
> After all, you can still use your phone when it's in a Lifeproof case which
> covers the screen with a relatively thick piece of plastic.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Ricardo Walker
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:02 AM
> To: viphone
> Subject: Re: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I doubt that stylus would work on your iPhone.  The screen on the iPhone
> does not respond to pressure but, the moisture in your skin.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> On Jun 18, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
>> Wow! Never occurred to me to try using a stylus on my iPhone.  I have one
> from my Maestro/Trekker PDA and I suppose anytime a single finger tap, drag
> or touch is in order the stylus might well serve in lieu of my own digit.
> But now, how can I handle 2 or 3 styla at a time for those other times?
> Hmmm?!?!?!
>> 
>> Holland's Boy, Bill
>> - "I was always taught to respect my elders, But it keeps getting harder
> to find one."
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RE: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?

2013-06-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Ricardo,

The touch screen on an iPhone is a "capacitive touch screen" which does not
react to the moisture in your skin but to electrical conductivity. Skin and
the human body as a whole is conductive. A stylus is made from material
which transfer the conductivity of your finger/body through the material of
the stylus to the touch screen. This is the same principal as is found in
touch screen friendly gloves which also exist and it is also the same as
when I put my iPhone into a zip lock bag so I can use my recipe app in the
kitchen and use it with fingers that are greasy, wet, full of flour etc.
After all, you can still use your phone when it's in a Lifeproof case which
covers the screen with a relatively thick piece of plastic.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:02 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?

Hi,

I doubt that stylus would work on your iPhone.  The screen on the iPhone
does not respond to pressure but, the moisture in your skin.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
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On Jun 18, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:

> Wow! Never occurred to me to try using a stylus on my iPhone.  I have one
from my Maestro/Trekker PDA and I suppose anytime a single finger tap, drag
or touch is in order the stylus might well serve in lieu of my own digit.
But now, how can I handle 2 or 3 styla at a time for those other times?
Hmmm?!?!?!
> 
> Holland's Boy, Bill
> - "I was always taught to respect my elders, But it keeps getting harder
to find one."
> - Truth # 5 from "Five Truths to Ponder"
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Re: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?

2013-06-18 Thread Ricardo Walker 
Hi,

I doubt that stylus would work on your iPhone.  The screen on the iPhone does 
not respond to pressure but, the moisture in your skin.

Ricardo Walker
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On Jun 18, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:

> Wow! Never occurred to me to try using a stylus on my iPhone.  I have one 
> from my Maestro/Trekker PDA and I suppose anytime a single finger tap, drag 
> or touch is in order the stylus might well serve in lieu of my own digit.  
> But now, how can I handle 2 or 3 styla at a time for those other times? 
> Hmmm?!?!?!
> 
> Holland's Boy, Bill
> - "I was always taught to respect my elders, But it keeps getting harder to 
> find one."
> - Truth # 5 from "Five Truths to Ponder"
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Re: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?

2013-06-18 Thread Bill Gallik 
Wow! Never occurred to me to try using a stylus on my iPhone.  I have one from 
my Maestro/Trekker PDA and I suppose anytime a single finger tap, drag or touch 
is in order the stylus might well serve in lieu of my own digit.  But now, how 
can I handle 2 or 3 styla at a time for those other times? Hmmm?!?!?!

Holland's Boy, Bill
- "I was always taught to respect my elders, But it keeps getting harder to 
find one."
- Truth # 5 from "Five Truths to Ponder"

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Re: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?

2013-06-17 Thread David Chittenden 
The stylus will work just like using one finger. So, you can touch the screen 
with the stylus and get the same effect as you get using a finger.

Many people are not comfortable signing or drawing with the finger, so they 
prefer to use the stylus.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

On 18/06/2013, at 8:33, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Chuck,
>  
> Steve Jobbs may have thought all people are born with ten fingers, but then 
> again this is of course not so and even for those of us who are born with 10 
> fingers that doesn’t mean something doesn’t happen which reduces that number. 
> I guess if he said that about the fingers he/Apple can argue in the same way 
> that we are all born with 2 eyes yet Apple made accessibility a priority.
>  
> I said in my prior email some people use a stylus for drawing on a touch 
> screen, but somebody who, for example, lost one or both hands could use a 
> stylus for using an iPhone which otherwise may not be possible.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chuck Dean
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 1:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?
>  
> The reason the iPhone comes without a stylus, is because Steve Jobs said we 
> are all born with ten. 
> 
> Chuck (mobile)
> GO BLACKHAWKS!
> 
> On Jun 17, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Tara Prakash  wrote:
> 
> Styklus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users? 
> 
> Dear all. I recently bought a cover for my iPhone five. It came with a pen. 
> Do you think it is of some use for me? What do people use a stylus for? 
> 
> Typed with Fleksy
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPod
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Re: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?

2013-06-17 Thread Carol Pearson 
I have often thought of getting hold of a stylist to play on my iPhone. I 
sometimes notice that the fingers that I use the most become a little sticky 
and therefore don't want to glide over the surface. I then swap fingers. 
However, if I had a stylus, this would be Avoided. I would be interested to 
hear if anyone has used one and how they got on.

Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using BrailleTouch

On 17 Jun 2013, at 09:33 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Chuck,
>  
> Steve Jobbs may have thought all people are born with ten fingers, but then 
> again this is of course not so and even for those of us who are born with 10 
> fingers that doesn’t mean something doesn’t happen which reduces that number. 
> I guess if he said that about the fingers he/Apple can argue in the same way 
> that we are all born with 2 eyes yet Apple made accessibility a priority.
>  
> I said in my prior email some people use a stylus for drawing on a touch 
> screen, but somebody who, for example, lost one or both hands could use a 
> stylus for using an iPhone which otherwise may not be possible.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chuck Dean
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 1:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?
>  
> The reason the iPhone comes without a stylus, is because Steve Jobs said we 
> are all born with ten. 
> 
> Chuck (mobile)
> GO BLACKHAWKS!
> 
> On Jun 17, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Tara Prakash  wrote:
> 
> Styklus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users? 
> 
> Dear all. I recently bought a cover for my iPhone five. It came with a pen. 
> Do you think it is of some use for me? What do people use a stylus for? 
> 
> Typed with Fleksy
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPod
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Re: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?

2013-06-17 Thread Chuck Dean 
I guess the question is, what is the advantage of using the stylus over a 
finger? 

Chuck (mobile)
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On Jun 17, 2013, at 2:03 PM, lsterling0  wrote:

> Hi all, I have one and use it sometimes. It is just like using the finger to 
> touch the screen.
> hth
> Louana
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RE: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?

2013-06-17 Thread lsterling0 
Hi all, I have one and use it sometimes. It is just like using the finger to
touch the screen.

hth

Louana

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Re: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?

2013-06-17 Thread Chuck Dean 
I am just reporting what he said... No need to kill the messenger. 

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On Jun 17, 2013, at 1:33 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Chuck,
>  
> Steve Jobbs may have thought all people are born with ten fingers, but then 
> again this is of course not so and even for those of us who are born with 10 
> fingers that doesn’t mean something doesn’t happen which reduces that number. 
> I guess if he said that about the fingers he/Apple can argue in the same way 
> that we are all born with 2 eyes yet Apple made accessibility a priority.
>  
> I said in my prior email some people use a stylus for drawing on a touch 
> screen, but somebody who, for example, lost one or both hands could use a 
> stylus for using an iPhone which otherwise may not be possible.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chuck Dean
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 1:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?
>  
> The reason the iPhone comes without a stylus, is because Steve Jobs said we 
> are all born with ten. 
> 
> Chuck (mobile)
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> On Jun 17, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Tara Prakash  wrote:
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> Styklus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users? 
> 
> Dear all. I recently bought a cover for my iPhone five. It came with a pen. 
> Do you think it is of some use for me? What do people use a stylus for? 
> 
> Typed with Fleksy
> 
> 
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RE: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?

2013-06-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Chuck,

 

Steve Jobbs may have thought all people are born with ten fingers, but then
again this is of course not so and even for those of us who are born with 10
fingers that doesn't mean something doesn't happen which reduces that
number. I guess if he said that about the fingers he/Apple can argue in the
same way that we are all born with 2 eyes yet Apple made accessibility a
priority.

 

I said in my prior email some people use a stylus for drawing on a touch
screen, but somebody who, for example, lost one or both hands could use a
stylus for using an iPhone which otherwise may not be possible.

 

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Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?

 

The reason the iPhone comes without a stylus, is because Steve Jobs said we
are all born with ten. 

Chuck (mobile)

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On Jun 17, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Tara Prakash  wrote:

Styklus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users? 

Dear all. I recently bought a cover for my iPhone five. It came with a pen.
Do you think it is of some use for me? What do people use a stylus for? 

Typed with Fleksy <http://fleksy.com/app> 



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Re: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?

2013-06-17 Thread Beverly 
I don't use one.

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  Subject: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?


  Styklus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users? 

  Dear all. I recently bought a cover for my iPhone five. It came with a pen. 
Do you think it is of some use for me? What do people use a stylus for? 

  Typed with Fleksy




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Re: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?

2013-06-17 Thread Chuck Dean 
The reason the iPhone comes without a stylus, is because Steve Jobs said we are 
all born with ten. 

Chuck (mobile)
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On Jun 17, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Tara Prakash  wrote:

> Styklus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users? 
> 
> Dear all. I recently bought a cover for my iPhone five. It came with a pen. 
> Do you think it is of some use for me? What do people use a stylus for? 
> 
> Typed with Fleksy
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RE: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?

2013-06-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Tara,

 

I doubt it is of much use for a blind person since you don't know exactly
where you put the tip of your stylus. Sighted people use them sometimes for
drawing, but I don't really know anybody personally how even uses one for
typing on an iDevice. I guess if somebody had really huge fingers that it
could be of some use. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tara Prakash
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 1:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Stylus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users?

 

Styklus or pen of any use for VoiceOver users? 

Dear all. I recently bought a cover for my iPhone five. It came with a pen.
Do you think it is of some use for me? What do people use a stylus for? 

Typed with Fleksy  



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