Re: U.S. Carriers, You'll Have to Unlock Those Phones

2015-02-13 Thread Mike Arrigo
This was definitely a long time coming, and I'm glad it's happened. For 
me at least, I think I still will continue to purchase unlocked devices 
out of the box, they cost a bit more but well worth it.

Original message:

Hello All,



I am delighted to post the following cNet News article for your
consideration.



The URL to the original article is at the bottom of the text.



Mark



U.S. carriers, you'll have to unlock those phones



Starting now, it will be much easier for people to jump from one carrier to
another and take their smartphone with them.



by Don Reisinger



The days of carriers locking down devices to keep customers in place are
officially dead.
Starting now, all US carriers must comply with requests from postpaid and
prepaid customers to unlock their devices, as long as certain parameters are
met. The industry group CTIA had committed last year to have all wireless
carriers adhering to the regulation by February 11, 2015.



The move follows from President Obama last year signing into law the
Unlocking Consumer Choice and Wireless Competition Act, which overruled a
controversial 2012 decision by the Library of Congress.



The debate over phone unlocking has come a long way in just a few short
years. Unlocking a phone allows owners to put the device on whatever carrier
network they choose. For years, carriers have locked down devices, allowing
them only to connect to their own networks. The move was designed to keep
customers close and not see them stray to other carriers.



We are pleased the FCC acknowledged the participating wireless carriers met
the deadlines to unlock their customers' devices per the Consumer Code for
Wireless Service, said Scott Bergmann, the CTIA's vice president for
regulatory affairs, in a statement. We also remind consumers that an
unlocked device does not necessarily mean an interoperable one since
different carriers use different technologies and spectrum bands.



For customers, the inability to unlock handsets had been a nuisance. Many
consumers, seeking better network coverage or data plan pricing, have wanted
to be able to move to a different network without having to buy a new
device. An unlocked handset would allow that interchange between, say, ATT
and T-Mobile networks. Locked devices force customers to stick with their
carrier networks and if they decide to switch, to buy a new device on the
other carrier.



In 2013, the issue of unlocking hitting a tipping point when the Libary of
Congress held that the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) banned
American consumers from unlocking their devices without the consent of their
carriers. Critics took issue with the ruling, which actually came down in
2012 but went into effect in 2013. Then in August 2014 came the Unlocking
Consumer Choice and Wireless Competition Act, which effectively made
unlocking legal again.



Under the CTIA's Consumer Code for Wireless Service that went into effect
Wednesday, carriers will have no choice but to remove locks on devices owned
by both postpaid and prepaid wireless users.



On the postpaid side, carriers must unlock devices after a customer in good
standing has fulfilled postpaid service contract, device financing plan, or
payment of applicable early termination fee. In other words, those
subscribers who get smartphones for less by paying a subsidy at the
beginning and paying in full over the life of a contract, must have
satisfied that payment covenant before they can be allowed to unlock their
device.



On the prepaid side, things are bit simpler: carriers must, upon request,
unlock a handset no later than one year after initial activation.



All unlocking, regardless of the type of customer, must be completed within
two days of a request, and carriers are now required to inform consumers of
their policies.



Carriers that lock devices will clearly notify customers that their devices
are eligible for unlocking at the time when their devices are eligible for
unlocking or automatically unlock devices remotely when devices are eligible
for unlocking, without additional fee, the code reads. Carriers reserve
the right to charge non-customers/non-former-customers with a reasonable fee
for unlocking requests. Notice to prepaid customers may occur at point of
sale, at the time of eligibility, or through a clear and concise statement
of policy on the carrier's website.



http://www.cnet.com/news/new-regulation-requires-us-carriers-to-unlock-user-
phones/?tag=nl.e703s_cid=e703ttag=e703ftag=CAD090e536





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Re: U.S. Carriers, You'll Have to Unlock Those Phones

2015-02-13 Thread eden
i have a question.  I have Verizon, but it's one that has a SIM card but 
I thought all Verizon was TDMA.  I am a little uncertain as to which 
carriers might actually work.  For instance, someone told me Straight 
Talk offered more data thhan Verizon for the same price, but i wonder 
would this work or TMobile or something.  i very much like Verizon's 
coverage, but the data is a bit expensive, and there is no unlimited for 
prepaid.  I did not buy this phone from Verizon but used, and it was 
already out of contract or had been paid off. Can anoyone recommend a 
data plan and carrier that might work with this phone.  i called Verizon 
about the unlocking a couple of weeks ago, but I did not realize it had 
not yet gone into effect, and i was very rudely told never would my 
phone be unlockable, it was Verizon, and that was that.  I mentioned the 
new unlocking phone law, and i was informed they did not have to abide 
by it.  i am glad to know that agent was obviously lying.


Eden
On 2/13/2015 7:17 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
This was definitely a long time coming, and I'm glad it's happened. 
For me at least, I think I still will continue to purchase unlocked 
devices out of the box, they cost a bit more but well worth it.

Original message:

Hello All,



I am delighted to post the following cNet News article for your
consideration.



The URL to the original article is at the bottom of the text.



Mark



U.S. carriers, you'll have to unlock those phones


Starting now, it will be much easier for people to jump from one 
carrier to

another and take their smartphone with them.



by Don Reisinger



The days of carriers locking down devices to keep customers in place are
officially dead.
Starting now, all US carriers must comply with requests from postpaid 
and
prepaid customers to unlock their devices, as long as certain 
parameters are
met. The industry group CTIA had committed last year to have all 
wireless

carriers adhering to the regulation by February 11, 2015.



The move follows from President Obama last year signing into law the
Unlocking Consumer Choice and Wireless Competition Act, which 
overruled a

controversial 2012 decision by the Library of Congress.



The debate over phone unlocking has come a long way in just a few short
years. Unlocking a phone allows owners to put the device on whatever 
carrier
network they choose. For years, carriers have locked down devices, 
allowing
them only to connect to their own networks. The move was designed to 
keep

customers close and not see them stray to other carriers.


We are pleased the FCC acknowledged the participating wireless 
carriers met
the deadlines to unlock their customers' devices per the Consumer 
Code for

Wireless Service, said Scott Bergmann, the CTIA's vice president for
regulatory affairs, in a statement. We also remind consumers that an
unlocked device does not necessarily mean an interoperable one since
different carriers use different technologies and spectrum bands.


For customers, the inability to unlock handsets had been a nuisance. 
Many
consumers, seeking better network coverage or data plan pricing, have 
wanted

to be able to move to a different network without having to buy a new
device. An unlocked handset would allow that interchange between, 
say, ATT
and T-Mobile networks. Locked devices force customers to stick with 
their
carrier networks and if they decide to switch, to buy a new device on 
the

other carrier.


In 2013, the issue of unlocking hitting a tipping point when the 
Libary of

Congress held that the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) banned
American consumers from unlocking their devices without the consent 
of their
carriers. Critics took issue with the ruling, which actually came 
down in
2012 but went into effect in 2013. Then in August 2014 came the 
Unlocking

Consumer Choice and Wireless Competition Act, which effectively made
unlocking legal again.


Under the CTIA's Consumer Code for Wireless Service that went into 
effect
Wednesday, carriers will have no choice but to remove locks on 
devices owned

by both postpaid and prepaid wireless users.


On the postpaid side, carriers must unlock devices after a customer 
in good
standing has fulfilled postpaid service contract, device financing 
plan, or

payment of applicable early termination fee. In other words, those
subscribers who get smartphones for less by paying a subsidy at the
beginning and paying in full over the life of a contract, must have
satisfied that payment covenant before they can be allowed to unlock 
their

device.


On the prepaid side, things are bit simpler: carriers must, upon 
request,

unlock a handset no later than one year after initial activation.


All unlocking, regardless of the type of customer, must be completed 
within
two days of a request, and carriers are now required to inform 
consumers of

their policies.


Carriers that lock devices will clearly notify customers that their 
devices
are eligible 

RE: U.S. Carriers, You'll Have to Unlock Those Phones

2015-02-13 Thread Cris Ali
I am glad this subject has been settled.  I travel overseas quite frequently.  
Having an unlocked phone enables me to use SIM cards for local numbers in the 
countries I visit, instead of having to pay exorbitant international roaming 
prices for using my American phone number overseas.  I was very disappointed 
when the library of congress decision came out in 2013.  I thought it was truly 
illogical and inadequate, since my carrier did not invent the iOS system I have 
on my iPhone and saw no digital copyrights to be protected. To me it was only a 
bias decision to consolidate the big corporation's rights of monopoly, and 
screw up the consumers.
Cheers,
Cris  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike Arrigo
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: U.S. Carriers, You'll Have to Unlock Those Phones

This was definitely a long time coming, and I'm glad it's happened. For me at 
least, I think I still will continue to purchase unlocked devices out of the 
box, they cost a bit more but well worth it.
Original message:
 Hello All,

 I am delighted to post the following cNet News article for your 
 consideration.

 The URL to the original article is at the bottom of the text.

 Mark

 U.S. carriers, you'll have to unlock those phones

 Starting now, it will be much easier for people to jump from one 
 carrier to another and take their smartphone with them.

 by Don Reisinger

 The days of carriers locking down devices to keep customers in place 
 are officially dead.
 Starting now, all US carriers must comply with requests from postpaid 
 and prepaid customers to unlock their devices, as long as certain 
 parameters are met. The industry group CTIA had committed last year to 
 have all wireless carriers adhering to the regulation by February 11, 2015.

 The move follows from President Obama last year signing into law the 
 Unlocking Consumer Choice and Wireless Competition Act, which 
 overruled a controversial 2012 decision by the Library of Congress.

 The debate over phone unlocking has come a long way in just a few 
 short years. Unlocking a phone allows owners to put the device on 
 whatever carrier network they choose. For years, carriers have locked 
 down devices, allowing them only to connect to their own networks. The 
 move was designed to keep customers close and not see them stray to other 
 carriers.

 We are pleased the FCC acknowledged the participating wireless 
 carriers met the deadlines to unlock their customers' devices per the 
 Consumer Code for Wireless Service, said Scott Bergmann, the CTIA's 
 vice president for regulatory affairs, in a statement. We also remind 
 consumers that an unlocked device does not necessarily mean an 
 interoperable one since different carriers use different technologies and 
 spectrum bands.

 For customers, the inability to unlock handsets had been a nuisance. 
 Many consumers, seeking better network coverage or data plan pricing, 
 have wanted to be able to move to a different network without having 
 to buy a new device. An unlocked handset would allow that interchange 
 between, say, ATT and T-Mobile networks. Locked devices force 
 customers to stick with their carrier networks and if they decide to 
 switch, to buy a new device on the other carrier.

 In 2013, the issue of unlocking hitting a tipping point when the 
 Libary of Congress held that the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act 
 (DMCA) banned American consumers from unlocking their devices without 
 the consent of their carriers. Critics took issue with the ruling, 
 which actually came down in
 2012 but went into effect in 2013. Then in August 2014 came the 
 Unlocking Consumer Choice and Wireless Competition Act, which 
 effectively made unlocking legal again.

 Under the CTIA's Consumer Code for Wireless Service that went into 
 effect Wednesday, carriers will have no choice but to remove locks on 
 devices owned by both postpaid and prepaid wireless users.

 On the postpaid side, carriers must unlock devices after a customer in 
 good standing has fulfilled postpaid service contract, device 
 financing plan, or payment of applicable early termination fee. In 
 other words, those subscribers who get smartphones for less by paying 
 a subsidy at the beginning and paying in full over the life of a 
 contract, must have satisfied that payment covenant before they can be 
 allowed to unlock their device.

 On the prepaid side, things are bit simpler: carriers must, upon 
 request, unlock a handset no later than one year after initial activation.

 All unlocking, regardless of the type of customer, must be completed 
 within two days of a request, and carriers are now required to inform 
 consumers of their policies.

 Carriers that lock devices will clearly notify customers that their 
 devices are eligible for unlocking at the time when their devices are 
 eligible for unlocking