RE: VO Setting to make it read the changing values like the progress bar

2021-06-10 Thread Richard Turner
A progress bar, is an icon on the screen that shows your progress, most often 
while downloading something.
But this setting called Watch Item, is not just for progress bars.
I could see using it on an app where information changes but VoiceOVer doesn't 
automatically read it.
I personally have not found a place to apply this as yet.



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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VO Setting to make it read the changing values like the progress 
bar

What does this progress bar do? 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 11:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO Setting to make it read the changing values like the progress 
bar

I'm not so much interested in being right, but it is good to know this setting 
exists. I was unaware of it. 
Now, to find a situation where I want to use it.
I think your quadruple two finger tap is a good choice.



Richard 
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On Jun 9, 2021, at 4:07 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
wrote:



 Hello Richard, 

You may well be right, perhaps I set it up some time ago and had 
forgotten I had done so.  The joys of getting old!

Sorry for any confusion caused.


Malcolm Parfitt


On 9 Jun 2021, at 11:44, Richard Turner 
 wrote:



 
Malcolm,
On my SE 2020 running the latest iOS, that gesture was not 
defined, so I don't think there is a default gesture. For those wanting to set 
the gesture for Watch Item: open Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Commands, 
All commands, VoiceOver, and the last item will be the Watch Item gesture. 
For me, there was no finger gesture, but there is an assigned 
keyboard gesture of Shift+hyphen.
Probably VO key+shift+hyphen.
HTH,


Richard 
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minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt


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On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:30 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
 wrote:



Hello,

By default Two-finger quadruple tap Watch Item.

So place Voiceover’s focus on say the progress bar you 
want to monitor and do a Two-finger quadruple tap to watch that item and have 
its progress spoken.

Hope that helps.

Malcolm Parfitt



On 9 Jun 2021, at 11:16, Harshit Jaithwar 
 wrote:





Hi, I am unable to find watched item option in 
various options available under the back tap. 





Sent from my iPhone





On 08-Jun-2021, at 4:05 PM, Malcolm 
Parfitt  wrote:





Not sure whether it would help, but 
you could try making it a Watched Item.





I have my iPhone setup so a

RE: VO Setting to make it read the changing values like the progress bar

2021-06-10 Thread Carolyn
What does this progress bar do? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 11:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO Setting to make it read the changing values like the progress 
bar

I'm not so much interested in being right, but it is good to know this setting 
exists. I was unaware of it. 
Now, to find a situation where I want to use it.
I think your quadruple two finger tap is a good choice.



Richard 
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com



On Jun 9, 2021, at 4:07 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
wrote:



 Hello Richard, 

You may well be right, perhaps I set it up some time ago and had 
forgotten I had done so.  The joys of getting old!

Sorry for any confusion caused.


Malcolm Parfitt


On 9 Jun 2021, at 11:44, Richard Turner 
 wrote:



 
Malcolm,
On my SE 2020 running the latest iOS, that gesture was not 
defined, so I don't think there is a default gesture. For those wanting to set 
the gesture for Watch Item: open Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Commands, 
All commands, VoiceOver, and the last item will be the Watch Item gesture. 
For me, there was no finger gesture, but there is an assigned 
keyboard gesture of Shift+hyphen.
Probably VO key+shift+hyphen.
HTH,


Richard 
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small 
minds discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com



On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:30 AM, Malcolm Parfitt 
 wrote:



Hello,

By default Two-finger quadruple tap Watch Item.

So place Voiceover’s focus on say the progress bar you 
want to monitor and do a Two-finger quadruple tap to watch that item and have 
its progress spoken.

Hope that helps.

Malcolm Parfitt



On 9 Jun 2021, at 11:16, Harshit Jaithwar 
 wrote:





Hi, I am unable to find watched item option in 
various options available under the back tap. 





Sent from my iPhone





On 08-Jun-2021, at 4:05 PM, Malcolm 
Parfitt  wrote:





Not sure whether it would help, but 
you could try making it a Watched Item.





I have my iPhone setup so a double-tap 
on the back of the device toggles Watch Item on/off.





So I place Voiceover’s focus on the 
item I want to monitor then turn Watch Item on.





Give it a try it may be what you’re 
looking for.





Malcolm Parfitt





On 8 Jun 2021, at 11:31, Anthony Vece 
 wrote:





Not that I'm aware of. I was just 
discussing this on Friday with an Apple representative and we couldn't find a 
way to get it done





On Jun 8, 2021, 

Re: VO Setting to make it read the changing values like the progress bar

2021-06-09 Thread Richard Turner
I'm not so much interested in being right, but it is good to know this setting 
exists. I was unaware of it.
Now, to find a situation where I want to use it.
I think your quadruple two finger tap is a good choice.



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Jun 9, 2021, at 4:07 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

 Hello Richard,

You may well be right, perhaps I set it up some time ago and had forgotten I 
had done so.  The joys of getting old!

Sorry for any confusion caused.

Malcolm Parfitt

On 9 Jun 2021, at 11:44, Richard Turner  wrote:


Malcolm,
On my SE 2020 running the latest iOS, that gesture was not defined, so I don't 
think there is a default gesture. For those wanting to set the gesture for 
Watch Item: open Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Commands, All commands, 
VoiceOver, and the last item will be the Watch Item gesture.
For me, there was no finger gesture, but there is an assigned keyboard gesture 
of Shift+hyphen.
Probably VO key+shift+hyphen.
HTH,


Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:30 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

Hello,

By default Two-finger quadruple tap Watch Item.

So place Voiceover’s focus on say the progress bar you want to monitor and do a 
Two-finger quadruple tap to watch that item and have its progress spoken.

Hope that helps.

Malcolm Parfitt

On 9 Jun 2021, at 11:16, Harshit Jaithwar  wrote:

Hi, I am unable to find watched item option in various options available under 
the back tap.

Sent from my iPhone

On 08-Jun-2021, at 4:05 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

Not sure whether it would help, but you could try making it a Watched Item.

I have my iPhone setup so a double-tap on the back of the device toggles Watch 
Item on/off.

So I place Voiceover’s focus on the item I want to monitor then turn Watch Item 
on.

Give it a try it may be what you’re looking for.

Malcolm Parfitt

On 8 Jun 2021, at 11:31, Anthony Vece  wrote:

Not that I'm aware of. I was just discussing this on Friday with an Apple 
representative and we couldn't find a way to get it done

On Jun 8, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Dr. Harshit Jaithwar  wrote:

Hello everyone,
I sometime trade in forex and faces issues in rapidly changing values
which voice over doesn't speaks automatically like it does in progress
bar.
Currently I have to use swipe right and then again left to read the
current value.
Is there any setting in voice over through which I can get
continuously announcement whenever values gets change.

Thank you!

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Re: VO Setting to make it read the changing values like the progress bar

2021-06-09 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
Hello Richard,

You may well be right, perhaps I set it up some time ago and had forgotten I 
had done so.  The joys of getting old!

Sorry for any confusion caused.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 9 Jun 2021, at 11:44, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Malcolm,
> On my SE 2020 running the latest iOS, that gesture was not defined, so I 
> don't think there is a default gesture. For those wanting to set the gesture 
> for Watch Item: open Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Commands, All 
> commands, VoiceOver, and the last item will be the Watch Item gesture. 
> For me, there was no finger gesture, but there is an assigned keyboard 
> gesture of Shift+hyphen.
> Probably VO key+shift+hyphen.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:30 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> By default Two-finger quadruple tap Watch Item.
>> 
>> So place Voiceover’s focus on say the progress bar you want to monitor and 
>> do a Two-finger quadruple tap to watch that item and have its progress 
>> spoken.
>> 
>> Hope that helps.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
>>> On 9 Jun 2021, at 11:16, Harshit Jaithwar  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, I am unable to find watched item option in various options available 
>>> under the back tap. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On 08-Jun-2021, at 4:05 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  
> wrote:
 
 Not sure whether it would help, but you could try making it a Watched 
 Item.
 
 I have my iPhone setup so a double-tap on the back of the device toggles 
 Watch Item on/off.
 
 So I place Voiceover’s focus on the item I want to monitor then turn Watch 
 Item on.
 
 Give it a try it may be what you’re looking for.
 
 Malcolm Parfitt
 
>>> On 8 Jun 2021, at 11:31, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Not that I'm aware of. I was just discussing this on Friday with an 
> Apple representative and we couldn't find a way to get it done
> 
 On Jun 8, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Dr. Harshit Jaithwar 
  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> I sometime trade in forex and faces issues in rapidly changing values
>> which voice over doesn't speaks automatically like it does in progress
>> bar.
>> Currently I have to use swipe right and then again left to read the
>> current value.
>> Is there any setting in voice over through which I can get
>> continuously announcement whenever values gets change.
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 
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Re: VO Setting to make it read the changing values like the progress bar

2021-06-09 Thread Richard Turner
Malcolm,
On my SE 2020 running the latest iOS, that gesture was not defined, so I don't 
think there is a default gesture. For those wanting to set the gesture for 
Watch Item: open Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Commands, All commands, 
VoiceOver, and the last item will be the Watch Item gesture.
For me, there was no finger gesture, but there is an assigned keyboard gesture 
of Shift+hyphen.
Probably VO key+shift+hyphen.
HTH,


Richard
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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

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On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:30 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

Hello,

By default Two-finger quadruple tap Watch Item.

So place Voiceover’s focus on say the progress bar you want to monitor and do a 
Two-finger quadruple tap to watch that item and have its progress spoken.

Hope that helps.

Malcolm Parfitt

On 9 Jun 2021, at 11:16, Harshit Jaithwar  wrote:

Hi, I am unable to find watched item option in various options available under 
the back tap.

Sent from my iPhone

On 08-Jun-2021, at 4:05 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

Not sure whether it would help, but you could try making it a Watched Item.

I have my iPhone setup so a double-tap on the back of the device toggles Watch 
Item on/off.

So I place Voiceover’s focus on the item I want to monitor then turn Watch Item 
on.

Give it a try it may be what you’re looking for.

Malcolm Parfitt

On 8 Jun 2021, at 11:31, Anthony Vece  wrote:

Not that I'm aware of. I was just discussing this on Friday with an Apple 
representative and we couldn't find a way to get it done

On Jun 8, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Dr. Harshit Jaithwar  wrote:

Hello everyone,
I sometime trade in forex and faces issues in rapidly changing values
which voice over doesn't speaks automatically like it does in progress
bar.
Currently I have to use swipe right and then again left to read the
current value.
Is there any setting in voice over through which I can get
continuously announcement whenever values gets change.

Thank you!

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Re: VO Setting to make it read the changing values like the progress bar

2021-06-09 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
Hello,

By default Two-finger quadruple tap Watch Item.

So place Voiceover’s focus on say the progress bar you want to monitor and do a 
Two-finger quadruple tap to watch that item and have its progress spoken.

Hope that helps.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 9 Jun 2021, at 11:16, Harshit Jaithwar  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I am unable to find watched item option in various options available 
> under the back tap. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 08-Jun-2021, at 4:05 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>> 
>> Not sure whether it would help, but you could try making it a Watched Item.
>> 
>> I have my iPhone setup so a double-tap on the back of the device toggles 
>> Watch Item on/off.
>> 
>> So I place Voiceover’s focus on the item I want to monitor then turn Watch 
>> Item on.
>> 
>> Give it a try it may be what you’re looking for.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
 On 8 Jun 2021, at 11:31, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not that I'm aware of. I was just discussing this on Friday with an Apple 
>>> representative and we couldn't find a way to get it done
>>> 
> On Jun 8, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Dr. Harshit Jaithwar  
> wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 I sometime trade in forex and faces issues in rapidly changing values
 which voice over doesn't speaks automatically like it does in progress
 bar.
 Currently I have to use swipe right and then again left to read the
 current value.
 Is there any setting in voice over through which I can get
 continuously announcement whenever values gets change.
 
 Thank you!
 
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Re: VO Setting to make it read the changing values like the progress bar

2021-06-09 Thread Harshit Jaithwar
Hi, I am unable to find watched item option in various options available under 
the back tap. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 08-Jun-2021, at 4:05 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Not sure whether it would help, but you could try making it a Watched Item.
> 
> I have my iPhone setup so a double-tap on the back of the device toggles 
> Watch Item on/off.
> 
> So I place Voiceover’s focus on the item I want to monitor then turn Watch 
> Item on.
> 
> Give it a try it may be what you’re looking for.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 8 Jun 2021, at 11:31, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> 
>> Not that I'm aware of. I was just discussing this on Friday with an Apple 
>> representative and we couldn't find a way to get it done
>> 
 On Jun 8, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Dr. Harshit Jaithwar  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> I sometime trade in forex and faces issues in rapidly changing values
>>> which voice over doesn't speaks automatically like it does in progress
>>> bar.
>>> Currently I have to use swipe right and then again left to read the
>>> current value.
>>> Is there any setting in voice over through which I can get
>>> continuously announcement whenever values gets change.
>>> 
>>> Thank you!
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Re: VO Setting to make it read the changing values like the progress bar

2021-06-08 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
Not sure whether it would help, but you could try making it a Watched Item.

I have my iPhone setup so a double-tap on the back of the device toggles Watch 
Item on/off.

So I place Voiceover’s focus on the item I want to monitor then turn Watch Item 
on.

Give it a try it may be what you’re looking for.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 8 Jun 2021, at 11:31, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Not that I'm aware of. I was just discussing this on Friday with an Apple 
> representative and we couldn't find a way to get it done
> 
>> On Jun 8, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Dr. Harshit Jaithwar  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> I sometime trade in forex and faces issues in rapidly changing values
>> which voice over doesn't speaks automatically like it does in progress
>> bar.
>> Currently I have to use swipe right and then again left to read the
>> current value.
>> Is there any setting in voice over through which I can get
>> continuously announcement whenever values gets change.
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 
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Re: VO Setting to make it read the changing values like the progress bar

2021-06-08 Thread Anthony Vece
Not that I'm aware of. I was just discussing this on Friday with an Apple 
representative and we couldn't find a way to get it done

> On Jun 8, 2021, at 3:45 AM, Dr. Harshit Jaithwar  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> I sometime trade in forex and faces issues in rapidly changing values
> which voice over doesn't speaks automatically like it does in progress
> bar.
> Currently I have to use swipe right and then again left to read the
> current value.
> Is there any setting in voice over through which I can get
> continuously announcement whenever values gets change.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
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