Tips on reading web sites [was "RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security"]

[Christopher Chaltain]

As an FYI, I had no problems reading the web site using the link below with the 
immersive reading feature in Microsoft Edge on my PC. On the PC, you toggle 
immersive reading mode with the F9 key. IMHO, just because a lot of us use 
Windows, I still don't consider this on topic for the list, but to try to bring 
it around to this list, you can run Edge on IOS, although I'm not sure how to 
start immersive reading mode on the iPhone. Other browsers, like Safari, 
Firefox and Chrome, also have such modes. Sometimes they're called reader mode. 
They try to strip out everything but the relevant text and information on a web 
page. Note that not all web sites support this feature. Good luck, and I hope 
this tip helps others on their iPhones!

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Carolyn
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 10:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
> person's
> receiving Social Security
> 
> Great, Chris, thanks.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
> person's
> receiving Social Security
> 
> OK, here’s the text of the article. Note, I’m just presenting the text of the 
> article.
> Although I’m no fan of President Trump, I do find this article to be a bit
> unnecessarily inflammatory, and I question it’s being posted to this list, 
> although
> Richard did warn everyone in the subject line that it’s a political article.
> 
> 
> 
> Trump makes one last effort to cut Social Security, maximize hurt to the 
> disabled
> 
> 
> 
> WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 26: U.S. President Donald Trump makes remarks during
> an event on protecting seniors with diabetes, in the Rose Garden at the White
> 
> House on May 26, 2020 in Washington, DC. The United States is closing in on
> 100,000 deaths in less than four months caused by the coronavirus.
> 
> 
> 
> In the middle of the Trump pandemic, in which untold millions of people who
> survive the disease could end up disabled for life, the Trump administration
> 
> Announced  Friday that it's finalizing rules meant to do nothing but make it
> harder for disabled people to receive Social Security, and to endanger the 
> Social
> Security
> 
> benefits of disabled people who are already approved. In the first 
> regulation, it's
> changing the appeals process by replacing impartial, independent 
> administrative
> 
> law judges (ALJs) with internal agency lawyers, making it much more difficult 
> for
> 
> people to navigate the process.
> 
> 
> 
> They have also sent their proposal  that will dramatically increase 
> "continuing
> disability reviews" (the process during which those receiving disability must
> prove they're still disabled)
> 
> to the Office of Management and Budget for approval as a final rule. The
> administration admitted it is about dropping people out of the program ,
> "saving"
> 
> $2.6 billion. It would mean earlier and more frequent reviews for people on
> disability, likely older people who are physically unable to continue their
> 
> work. This is simply, in the words  of Sen. Ron Wyden, "harassment of people
> with disabilities" that puts Americans at "greater risk of falling through the
> cracks."
> 
> 
> 
> House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee blasted
> 
> the final rule on cutting out judges, which is set to take effect on Dec. 16. 
> "For
> nearly two years, we’ve sounded the alarm that this change would erode
> 
> due process for Social Security and Supplemental Security Income applicants 
> and
> beneficiaries and threaten their access to their earned benefits. The rule
> 
> puts unqualified agency staff in control of deciding appeals hearings and
> contradicts the congressional intent of the law governing such proceedings."
> 
> 
> 
> The rule would remove administrative law from taking up standard cases,
> conducting hearings, and issuing decisions on applications for disability
> benefits—all
> 
> responsibilities currently reserved for them. The ALJ union
> 
> responded  early this year, calling the proposal a violation of current law 
> and
> Supreme Court precedent, saying it would "effectively subject the entire
> administrative
> 
> adjudicative process under performance appraisal control by the agency."
> 
> 
> 
> These two rules a

Moderator Note - You knew this was coming :) -was- Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[Cara Quinn]

Hi All,

You all know the drill by now, :) please can we keep the political discussion 
off the list?

My apologies for the delay in writing but seriously :) you shouldn’t need me or 
Mark to say anything here.

It goes without saying that this sort of thing is not cool here. It also goes 
without saying that you have a delete key that you can use as much as you want. 
:)

So please can we close this thread now. there is so much happening in Apple 
land at this point that I think we all should have more than enough to keep us 
busy here on this list aside from any of the craziness afoot.

Thanks so much to you all. Please know that everyone of us here is an important 
and necessary part of this list. I hope you all and your families and friends 
are safe and well.

Please have a great day!

Cheers!

Cara



> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:46 AM, Don Moore  wrote:
> 
> Gas lighting the blind as usual!  Need way more than a pinch of that salt!!
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> James English
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
> person's receiving Social Security
> 
> Hello,
> 
> It might be worth noting that the source isn't rated as a credible
> news source by independent fact checkers, openly campaigns for the
> democratic party and has raised money for them in the past. It might
> be worth taking it with a large pinch of salt.
> https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-kos/
> 
> On 11/17/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> Great, Chris, thanks.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:24 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled
>> person's receiving Social Security
>> 
>> OK, here’s the text of the article. Note, I’m just presenting the text of
>> the article. Although I’m no fan of President Trump, I do find this article
>> to be a bit unnecessarily inflammatory, and I question it’s being posted to
>> this list, although Richard did warn everyone in the subject line that it’s
>> a political article.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Trump makes one last effort to cut Social Security, maximize hurt to the
>> disabled
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 26: U.S. President Donald Trump makes remarks during an
>> event on protecting seniors with diabetes, in the Rose Garden at the White
>> 
>> House on May 26, 2020 in Washington, DC. The United States is closing in on
>> 100,000 deaths in less than four months caused by the coronavirus.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> In the middle of the Trump pandemic, in which untold millions of people who
>> survive the disease could end up disabled for life, the Trump
>> administration
>> 
>> Announced  Friday that it's finalizing rules meant to do nothing but make it
>> harder for disabled people to receive Social Security, and to endanger the
>> Social Security
>> 
>> benefits of disabled people who are already approved. In the first
>> regulation, it's changing the appeals process by replacing impartial,
>> independent administrative
>> 
>> law judges (ALJs) with internal agency lawyers, making it much more
>> difficult for
>> 
>> people to navigate the process.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> They have also sent their proposal  that will dramatically increase
>> "continuing disability reviews" (the process during which those receiving
>> disability must prove they're still disabled)
>> 
>> to the Office of Management and Budget for approval as a final rule. The
>> administration admitted it is about dropping people out of the program ,
>> "saving"
>> 
>> $2.6 billion. It would mean earlier and more frequent reviews for people on
>> disability, likely older people who are physically unable to continue their
>> 
>> work. This is simply, in the words  of Sen. Ron Wyden, "harassment of people
>> with disabilities" that puts Americans at "greater risk of falling through
>> the cracks."
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee blasted
>> 
>> the final rule on cutting out judges, which is set to take effect on Dec.
>> 16. "For nearly two years, we’ve sounded the alarm that this change would
>> erode
>> 
>> due process for Social Security

RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[Mr. Ed]

Hi,
The only thing I can say is who knows for sure if this is true. Now days there 
is so much false information posted out there on the net no one knows if it 
true or not. Let's see if it comes up other places. I am not saying it true or 
False but one has to make sure before one can believe it.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

Amen, Esther. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

that's an understatement! I can't wait till he gets out of office! Maybe they 
have to carry him out. I hope they do. It would be wonderful to see. Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:05 PM, Julie Dawson  
wrote:



 
I can't read the article.

- Original Message - 
From: Simon A Fogarty <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:55 PM
    Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included 
concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security


I told you guys he was an A hole,

 

Is that something biden can reverse?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2020 1:57 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
    Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included 
concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

 

IOut  rages is all I am going to say.  JMO 

 

Matthew

 

 





On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, 
you may want to read this.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre
 
<https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre>
 

 

 

 

Richard

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RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[Larry Lumpkin]

I'm sorry, this seems off topic to me.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Don Moore
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

Gas lighting the blind as usual!  Need way more than a pinch of that salt!!



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
James English
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

Hello,

It might be worth noting that the source isn't rated as a credible news source 
by independent fact checkers, openly campaigns for the democratic party and has 
raised money for them in the past. It might be worth taking it with a large 
pinch of salt.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-kos/

On 11/17/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Great, Chris, thanks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning 
> disabled person's receiving Social Security
>
> OK, here’s the text of the article. Note, I’m just presenting the text 
> of the article. Although I’m no fan of President Trump, I do find this 
> article to be a bit unnecessarily inflammatory, and I question it’s 
> being posted to this list, although Richard did warn everyone in the 
> subject line that it’s a political article.
>
>
>
> Trump makes one last effort to cut Social Security, maximize hurt to 
> the disabled
>
>
>
> WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 26: U.S. President Donald Trump makes remarks 
> during an event on protecting seniors with diabetes, in the Rose 
> Garden at the White
>
> House on May 26, 2020 in Washington, DC. The United States is closing 
> in on
> 100,000 deaths in less than four months caused by the coronavirus.
>
>
>
> In the middle of the Trump pandemic, in which untold millions of 
> people who survive the disease could end up disabled for life, the 
> Trump administration
>
> Announced  Friday that it's finalizing rules meant to do nothing but 
> make it harder for disabled people to receive Social Security, and to 
> endanger the Social Security
>
> benefits of disabled people who are already approved. In the first 
> regulation, it's changing the appeals process by replacing impartial, 
> independent administrative
>
> law judges (ALJs) with internal agency lawyers, making it much more 
> difficult for
>
> people to navigate the process.
>
>
>
> They have also sent their proposal  that will dramatically increase 
> "continuing disability reviews" (the process during which those 
> receiving disability must prove they're still disabled)
>
> to the Office of Management and Budget for approval as a final rule. 
> The administration admitted it is about dropping people out of the 
> program , "saving"
>
> $2.6 billion. It would mean earlier and more frequent reviews for 
> people on disability, likely older people who are physically unable to 
> continue their
>
> work. This is simply, in the words  of Sen. Ron Wyden, "harassment of 
> people with disabilities" that puts Americans at "greater risk of 
> falling through the cracks."
>
>
>
> House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee blasted
>
> the final rule on cutting out judges, which is set to take effect on Dec.
> 16. "For nearly two years, we’ve sounded the alarm that this change 
> would erode
>
> due process for Social Security and Supplemental Security Income 
> applicants and beneficiaries and threaten their access to their earned 
> benefits. The rule
>
> puts unqualified agency staff in control of deciding appeals hearings 
> and contradicts the congressional intent of the law governing such 
> proceedings."
>
>
>
> The rule would remove administrative law from taking up standard 
> cases, conducting hearings, and issuing decisions on applications for 
> disability benefits—all
>
> responsibilities currently reserved for them. The ALJ union
>
> responded  early this year, calling the proposal a violation of 
> current law and Supreme Court precedent, saying it would "effectively 
> subject the entire administrative
>
> adjudicative process under performance appraisal control by the agency."
>
>
>
> These two rules are just Trump's kick in the teeth to vulnerable 
> people. Th

RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[Don Moore]

Gas lighting the blind as usual!  Need way more than a pinch of that salt!!



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
James English
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

Hello,

It might be worth noting that the source isn't rated as a credible
news source by independent fact checkers, openly campaigns for the
democratic party and has raised money for them in the past. It might
be worth taking it with a large pinch of salt.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-kos/

On 11/17/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Great, Chris, thanks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled
> person's receiving Social Security
>
> OK, here’s the text of the article. Note, I’m just presenting the text of
> the article. Although I’m no fan of President Trump, I do find this article
> to be a bit unnecessarily inflammatory, and I question it’s being posted to
> this list, although Richard did warn everyone in the subject line that it’s
> a political article.
>
>
>
> Trump makes one last effort to cut Social Security, maximize hurt to the
> disabled
>
>
>
> WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 26: U.S. President Donald Trump makes remarks during an
> event on protecting seniors with diabetes, in the Rose Garden at the White
>
> House on May 26, 2020 in Washington, DC. The United States is closing in on
> 100,000 deaths in less than four months caused by the coronavirus.
>
>
>
> In the middle of the Trump pandemic, in which untold millions of people who
> survive the disease could end up disabled for life, the Trump
> administration
>
> Announced  Friday that it's finalizing rules meant to do nothing but make it
> harder for disabled people to receive Social Security, and to endanger the
> Social Security
>
> benefits of disabled people who are already approved. In the first
> regulation, it's changing the appeals process by replacing impartial,
> independent administrative
>
> law judges (ALJs) with internal agency lawyers, making it much more
> difficult for
>
> people to navigate the process.
>
>
>
> They have also sent their proposal  that will dramatically increase
> "continuing disability reviews" (the process during which those receiving
> disability must prove they're still disabled)
>
> to the Office of Management and Budget for approval as a final rule. The
> administration admitted it is about dropping people out of the program ,
> "saving"
>
> $2.6 billion. It would mean earlier and more frequent reviews for people on
> disability, likely older people who are physically unable to continue their
>
> work. This is simply, in the words  of Sen. Ron Wyden, "harassment of people
> with disabilities" that puts Americans at "greater risk of falling through
> the cracks."
>
>
>
> House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee blasted
>
> the final rule on cutting out judges, which is set to take effect on Dec.
> 16. "For nearly two years, we’ve sounded the alarm that this change would
> erode
>
> due process for Social Security and Supplemental Security Income applicants
> and beneficiaries and threaten their access to their earned benefits. The
> rule
>
> puts unqualified agency staff in control of deciding appeals hearings and
> contradicts the congressional intent of the law governing such
> proceedings."
>
>
>
> The rule would remove administrative law from taking up standard cases,
> conducting hearings, and issuing decisions on applications for disability
> benefits—all
>
> responsibilities currently reserved for them. The ALJ union
>
> responded  early this year, calling the proposal a violation of current law
> and Supreme Court precedent, saying it would "effectively subject the entire
> administrative
>
> adjudicative process under performance appraisal control by the agency."
>
>
>
> These two rules are just Trump's kick in the teeth to vulnerable people. The
> new Biden administration and/or Congress will have to spend time and energy
>
> unwinding these rules, which have no other purpose than making life more
> difficult for people who are already hurting. As with every goddamned thing
> with
>
> everyone in Trump's orbit, the cruelty is the point.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher (A

RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[Richard Turner]

I apologize for having started this thread, and this will be my last comment 
and then I will shut up and delete all future emails on this topic.
Look it up in the Federal Registry, check with Forbes magazine, CNBC or any 
number of other sources and you will find this is a legitimate, factual, story. 
 I do not receive Social Security disability benefits, but I think anyone who 
depends on that source of income needs to be aware and even contact their 
federal representatives for clarification and to voice their opinion in favor 
or against the proposed rule changes.



Richard
"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

*I’m not the card shark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
English
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

Hello,

It might be worth noting that the source isn't rated as a credible news source 
by independent fact checkers, openly campaigns for the democratic party and has 
raised money for them in the past. It might be worth taking it with a large 
pinch of salt.
https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmediabiasfactcheck.com%2Fdaily-kos%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C8555a5fc7e314694c7d008d88b14ed8b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637412269282458531%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=nWsyjaXgqVvjV3QAPfS7wih1rz5EzK0SPf1PuflxlUc%3Dreserved=0

On 11/17/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Great, Chris, thanks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning 
> disabled person's receiving Social Security
>
> OK, here’s the text of the article. Note, I’m just presenting the text 
> of the article. Although I’m no fan of President Trump, I do find this 
> article to be a bit unnecessarily inflammatory, and I question it’s 
> being posted to this list, although Richard did warn everyone in the 
> subject line that it’s a political article.
>
>
>
> Trump makes one last effort to cut Social Security, maximize hurt to 
> the disabled
>
>
>
> WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 26: U.S. President Donald Trump makes remarks 
> during an event on protecting seniors with diabetes, in the Rose 
> Garden at the White
>
> House on May 26, 2020 in Washington, DC. The United States is closing 
> in on
> 100,000 deaths in less than four months caused by the coronavirus.
>
>
>
> In the middle of the Trump pandemic, in which untold millions of 
> people who survive the disease could end up disabled for life, the 
> Trump administration
>
> Announced  Friday that it's finalizing rules meant to do nothing but 
> make it harder for disabled people to receive Social Security, and to 
> endanger the Social Security
>
> benefits of disabled people who are already approved. In the first 
> regulation, it's changing the appeals process by replacing impartial, 
> independent administrative
>
> law judges (ALJs) with internal agency lawyers, making it much more 
> difficult for
>
> people to navigate the process.
>
>
>
> They have also sent their proposal  that will dramatically increase 
> "continuing disability reviews" (the process during which those 
> receiving disability must prove they're still disabled)
>
> to the Office of Management and Budget for approval as a final rule. 
> The administration admitted it is about dropping people out of the 
> program , "saving"
>
> $2.6 billion. It would mean earlier and more frequent reviews for 
> people on disability, likely older people who are physically unable to 
> continue their
>
> work. This is simply, in the words  of Sen. Ron Wyden, "harassment of 
> people with disabilities" that puts Americans at "greater risk of 
> falling through the cracks."
>
>
>
> House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee blasted
>
> the final rule on cutting out judges, which is set to take effect on Dec.
> 16. "For nearly two years, we’ve sounded the alarm that this change 
> would erode
>
> due process for Social Security and Supplemental Security Income 
> applicants and beneficiaries and threaten their access to the

Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[MamaPeach]

How long is this thread going to continue? This has nothing at all to do 
with iDevices.


-Original Message- 
From: Carolyn

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security


Great, Chris, thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security


OK, here’s the text of the article. Note, I’m just presenting the text of 
the article. Although I’m no fan of President Trump, I do find this article 
to be a bit unnecessarily inflammatory, and I question it’s being posted to 
this list, although Richard did warn everyone in the subject line that it’s 
a political article.




Trump makes one last effort to cut Social Security, maximize hurt to the 
disabled




WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 26: U.S. President Donald Trump makes remarks during an 
event on protecting seniors with diabetes, in the Rose Garden at the White


House on May 26, 2020 in Washington, DC. The United States is closing in on 
100,000 deaths in less than four months caused by the coronavirus.




In the middle of the Trump pandemic, in which untold millions of people who 
survive the disease could end up disabled for life, the Trump administration


Announced  Friday that it's finalizing rules meant to do nothing but make it 
harder for disabled people to receive Social Security, and to endanger the 
Social Security


benefits of disabled people who are already approved. In the first 
regulation, it's changing the appeals process by replacing impartial, 
independent administrative


law judges (ALJs) with internal agency lawyers, making it much more 
difficult for


people to navigate the process.



They have also sent their proposal  that will dramatically increase 
"continuing disability reviews" (the process during which those receiving 
disability must prove they're still disabled)


to the Office of Management and Budget for approval as a final rule. The 
administration admitted it is about dropping people out of the program , 
"saving"


$2.6 billion. It would mean earlier and more frequent reviews for people on 
disability, likely older people who are physically unable to continue their


work. This is simply, in the words  of Sen. Ron Wyden, "harassment of people 
with disabilities" that puts Americans at "greater risk of falling through 
the cracks."




House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee blasted

the final rule on cutting out judges, which is set to take effect on Dec. 
16. "For nearly two years, we’ve sounded the alarm that this change would 
erode


due process for Social Security and Supplemental Security Income applicants 
and beneficiaries and threaten their access to their earned benefits. The 
rule


puts unqualified agency staff in control of deciding appeals hearings and 
contradicts the congressional intent of the law governing such proceedings."




The rule would remove administrative law from taking up standard cases, 
conducting hearings, and issuing decisions on applications for disability 
benefits—all


responsibilities currently reserved for them. The ALJ union

responded  early this year, calling the proposal a violation of current law 
and Supreme Court precedent, saying it would "effectively subject the entire 
administrative


adjudicative process under performance appraisal control by the agency."



These two rules are just Trump's kick in the teeth to vulnerable people. The 
new Biden administration and/or Congress will have to spend time and energy


unwinding these rules, which have no other purpose than making life more 
difficult for people who are already hurting. As with every goddamned thing 
with


everyone in Trump's orbit, the cruelty is the point.



--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security




I also can’t read the artickle eather. Can some one find the text of the 
artickle and send it? All I found was different links and no real artickle. 

From Mich.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener

Sent: November 16, 2020 9:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security




Neither could I.  Just found comments by other bloggers.



From: viphone@googl

Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[James English]

Hello,

It might be worth noting that the source isn't rated as a credible
news source by independent fact checkers, openly campaigns for the
democratic party and has raised money for them in the past. It might
be worth taking it with a large pinch of salt.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-kos/

On 11/17/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Great, Chris, thanks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled
> person's receiving Social Security
>
> OK, here’s the text of the article. Note, I’m just presenting the text of
> the article. Although I’m no fan of President Trump, I do find this article
> to be a bit unnecessarily inflammatory, and I question it’s being posted to
> this list, although Richard did warn everyone in the subject line that it’s
> a political article.
>
>
>
> Trump makes one last effort to cut Social Security, maximize hurt to the
> disabled
>
>
>
> WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 26: U.S. President Donald Trump makes remarks during an
> event on protecting seniors with diabetes, in the Rose Garden at the White
>
> House on May 26, 2020 in Washington, DC. The United States is closing in on
> 100,000 deaths in less than four months caused by the coronavirus.
>
>
>
> In the middle of the Trump pandemic, in which untold millions of people who
> survive the disease could end up disabled for life, the Trump
> administration
>
> Announced  Friday that it's finalizing rules meant to do nothing but make it
> harder for disabled people to receive Social Security, and to endanger the
> Social Security
>
> benefits of disabled people who are already approved. In the first
> regulation, it's changing the appeals process by replacing impartial,
> independent administrative
>
> law judges (ALJs) with internal agency lawyers, making it much more
> difficult for
>
> people to navigate the process.
>
>
>
> They have also sent their proposal  that will dramatically increase
> "continuing disability reviews" (the process during which those receiving
> disability must prove they're still disabled)
>
> to the Office of Management and Budget for approval as a final rule. The
> administration admitted it is about dropping people out of the program ,
> "saving"
>
> $2.6 billion. It would mean earlier and more frequent reviews for people on
> disability, likely older people who are physically unable to continue their
>
> work. This is simply, in the words  of Sen. Ron Wyden, "harassment of people
> with disabilities" that puts Americans at "greater risk of falling through
> the cracks."
>
>
>
> House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee blasted
>
> the final rule on cutting out judges, which is set to take effect on Dec.
> 16. "For nearly two years, we’ve sounded the alarm that this change would
> erode
>
> due process for Social Security and Supplemental Security Income applicants
> and beneficiaries and threaten their access to their earned benefits. The
> rule
>
> puts unqualified agency staff in control of deciding appeals hearings and
> contradicts the congressional intent of the law governing such
> proceedings."
>
>
>
> The rule would remove administrative law from taking up standard cases,
> conducting hearings, and issuing decisions on applications for disability
> benefits—all
>
> responsibilities currently reserved for them. The ALJ union
>
> responded  early this year, calling the proposal a violation of current law
> and Supreme Court precedent, saying it would "effectively subject the entire
> administrative
>
> adjudicative process under performance appraisal control by the agency."
>
>
>
> These two rules are just Trump's kick in the teeth to vulnerable people. The
> new Biden administration and/or Congress will have to spend time and energy
>
> unwinding these rules, which have no other purpose than making life more
> difficult for people who are already hurting. As with every goddamned thing
> with
>
> everyone in Trump's orbit, the cruelty is the point.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>
> Chaltain at Gmail
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich
> Verrier
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled
> person's receiving Social Security
>
>
>
> I also can’t read the artickle eather. Can s

RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[Carolyn]

Great, Chris, thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 10:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

OK, here’s the text of the article. Note, I’m just presenting the text of the 
article. Although I’m no fan of President Trump, I do find this article to be a 
bit unnecessarily inflammatory, and I question it’s being posted to this list, 
although Richard did warn everyone in the subject line that it’s a political 
article.

 

Trump makes one last effort to cut Social Security, maximize hurt to the 
disabled

 

WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 26: U.S. President Donald Trump makes remarks during an 
event on protecting seniors with diabetes, in the Rose Garden at the White

House on May 26, 2020 in Washington, DC. The United States is closing in on 
100,000 deaths in less than four months caused by the coronavirus.

 

In the middle of the Trump pandemic, in which untold millions of people who 
survive the disease could end up disabled for life, the Trump administration

Announced  Friday that it's finalizing rules meant to do nothing but make it 
harder for disabled people to receive Social Security, and to endanger the 
Social Security

benefits of disabled people who are already approved. In the first regulation, 
it's changing the appeals process by replacing impartial, independent 
administrative

law judges (ALJs) with internal agency lawyers, making it much more difficult 
for 

people to navigate the process.

 

They have also sent their proposal  that will dramatically increase "continuing 
disability reviews" (the process during which those receiving disability must 
prove they're still disabled)

to the Office of Management and Budget for approval as a final rule. The 
administration admitted it is about dropping people out of the program , 
"saving"

$2.6 billion. It would mean earlier and more frequent reviews for people on 
disability, likely older people who are physically unable to continue their

work. This is simply, in the words  of Sen. Ron Wyden, "harassment of people 
with disabilities" that puts Americans at "greater risk of falling through the 
cracks."

 

House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee blasted

the final rule on cutting out judges, which is set to take effect on Dec. 16. 
"For nearly two years, we’ve sounded the alarm that this change would erode

due process for Social Security and Supplemental Security Income applicants and 
beneficiaries and threaten their access to their earned benefits. The rule

puts unqualified agency staff in control of deciding appeals hearings and 
contradicts the congressional intent of the law governing such proceedings."

 

The rule would remove administrative law from taking up standard cases, 
conducting hearings, and issuing decisions on applications for disability 
benefits—all

responsibilities currently reserved for them. The ALJ union 

responded  early this year, calling the proposal a violation of current law and 
Supreme Court precedent, saying it would "effectively subject the entire 
administrative

adjudicative process under performance appraisal control by the agency."

 

These two rules are just Trump's kick in the teeth to vulnerable people. The 
new Biden administration and/or Congress will have to spend time and energy

unwinding these rules, which have no other purpose than making life more 
difficult for people who are already hurting. As with every goddamned thing with

everyone in Trump's orbit, the cruelty is the point.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

 

I also can’t read the artickle eather. Can some one find the text of the 
artickle and send it? All I found was different links and no real artickle. 
From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: November 16, 2020 9:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

 

Neither could I.  Just found comments by other bloggers.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Julie Dawson
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Se

RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[Carolyn]

I could not either. But from Simon's message, I get the idea is would not 
surprise me. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Julie Dawson
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

I can't read the article.

- Original Message - 
From: Simon A Fogarty <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:55 PM
    Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning 
disabled person's receiving Social Security


I told you guys he was an A hole,

 

Is that something biden can reverse?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
matthew dyer
Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2020 1:57 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning 
disabled person's receiving Social Security

 

IOut  rages is all I am going to say.  JMO 

 

Matthew

 

 





On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may 
want to read this.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre
 
<https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre>
 

 

 

 

Richard

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RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[Carolyn]

Amen, Esther. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

that's an understatement! I can't wait till he gets out of office! Maybe they 
have to carry him out. I hope they do. It would be wonderful to see. Esther


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:05 PM, Julie Dawson  
wrote:



 
I can't read the article.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:55 PM
    Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included 
concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security


I told you guys he was an A hole,

 

Is that something biden can reverse?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2020 1:57 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
    Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included 
concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

 

IOut  rages is all I am going to say.  JMO 

 

Matthew

 

 





On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, 
you may want to read this.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre
 
<https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre>
 

 

 

 

Richard

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Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security in USA

[l . d . ethier23]

It's not for all... I add USA 

Lyne

> Le 16 nov. 2020 à 20:24, Christopher Chaltain  a écrit :
> 
> 
> OK, here’s the text of the article. Note, I’m just presenting the text of the 
> article. Although I’m no fan of President Trump, I do find this article to be 
> a bit unnecessarily inflammatory, and I question it’s being posted to this 
> list, although Richard did warn everyone in the subject line that it’s a 
> political article.
>  
> Trump makes one last effort to cut Social Security, maximize hurt to the 
> disabled
>  
> WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 26: U.S. President Donald Trump makes remarks during an 
> event on protecting seniors with diabetes, in the Rose Garden at the White
> House on May 26, 2020 in Washington, DC. The United States is closing in on 
> 100,000 deaths in less than four months caused by the coronavirus.
>  
> In the middle of the Trump pandemic, in which untold millions of people who 
> survive the disease could end up disabled for life, the Trump administration
> Announced  Friday that it's finalizing rules meant to do nothing but make it 
> harder for disabled people to receive Social Security, and to endanger the 
> Social Security
> benefits of disabled people who are already approved. In the first 
> regulation, it's changing the appeals process by replacing impartial, 
> independent administrative
> law judges (ALJs) with internal agency lawyers, making it much more difficult 
> for
> people to navigate the process.
>  
> They have also sent their proposal  that will dramatically increase 
> "continuing disability reviews" (the process during which those receiving 
> disability must prove they're still disabled)
> to the Office of Management and Budget for approval as a final rule. The 
> administration admitted it is about dropping people out of the program , 
> "saving"
> $2.6 billion. It would mean earlier and more frequent reviews for people on 
> disability, likely older people who are physically unable to continue their
> work. This is simply, in the words  of Sen. Ron Wyden, "harassment of people 
> with disabilities" that puts Americans at "greater risk of falling through 
> the cracks."
>  
> House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee blasted
> the final rule on cutting out judges, which is set to take effect on Dec. 16. 
> "For nearly two years, we’ve sounded the alarm that this change would erode
> due process for Social Security and Supplemental Security Income applicants 
> and beneficiaries and threaten their access to their earned benefits. The rule
> puts unqualified agency staff in control of deciding appeals hearings and 
> contradicts the congressional intent of the law governing such proceedings."
>  
> The rule would remove administrative law from taking up standard cases, 
> conducting hearings, and issuing decisions on applications for disability 
> benefits—all
> responsibilities currently reserved for them. The ALJ union
> responded  early this year, calling the proposal a violation of current law 
> and Supreme Court precedent, saying it would "effectively subject the entire 
> administrative
> adjudicative process under performance appraisal control by the agency."
>  
> These two rules are just Trump's kick in the teeth to vulnerable people. The 
> new Biden administration and/or Congress will have to spend time and energy
> unwinding these rules, which have no other purpose than making life more 
> difficult for people who are already hurting. As with every goddamned thing 
> with
> everyone in Trump's orbit, the cruelty is the point.
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
> Verrier
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
> person's receiving Social Security
>  
> I also can’t read the artickle eather. Can some one find the text of the 
> artickle and send it? All I found was different links and no real artickle. 
> From Mich.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
> hevener
> Sent: November 16, 2020 9:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
> person's receiving Social Security
>  
> Neither could I.  Just found comments by other bloggers.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julie 
> Dawson
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
> person's receiving Social Security
>  
> I can't read the articl

RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 12:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

 

This is not iOS related where are the mods?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's 
receiving Social Security

 

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read 
this. 

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre

 

 

 

Richard

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There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
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RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[Dennis Long]

This is not iOS related where are the mods?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:40 PM
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Subject: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's 
receiving Social Security

 

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read 
this. 

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre

 

 

 

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Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[Dave]

same thing with me. 
I want to read it myself before making judgement 

From: Mich Verrier 
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

I also can’t read the artickle eather. Can some one find the text of the 
artickle and send it? All I found was different links and no real artickle. 
From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: November 16, 2020 9:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

 

Neither could I.  Just found comments by other bloggers.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

 

I can't read the article.

  - Original Message - 

  From: Simon A Fogarty 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:55 PM

  Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

   

  I told you guys he was an A hole,

   

  Is that something biden can reverse?

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
matthew dyer
  Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2020 1:57 pm
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

   

  IOut  rages is all I am going to say.  JMO 

   

  Matthew

   

   

   

On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

 

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read 
this.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre

 

 

 

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Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[Andy Baracco]

This is old , and was debunked.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Christopher Chaltain 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:23 PM
  Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security


  OK, here’s the text of the article. Note, I’m just presenting the text of the 
article. Although I’m no fan of President Trump, I do find this article to be a 
bit unnecessarily inflammatory, and I question it’s being posted to this list, 
although Richard did warn everyone in the subject line that it’s a political 
article.

   

  Trump makes one last effort to cut Social Security, maximize hurt to the 
disabled

   

  WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 26: U.S. President Donald Trump makes remarks during an 
event on protecting seniors with diabetes, in the Rose Garden at the White

  House on May 26, 2020 in Washington, DC. The United States is closing in on 
100,000 deaths in less than four months caused by the coronavirus.

   

  In the middle of the Trump pandemic, in which untold millions of people who 
survive the disease could end up disabled for life, the Trump administration

  Announced  Friday that it's finalizing rules meant to do nothing but make it 
harder for disabled people to receive Social Security, and to endanger the 
Social Security

  benefits of disabled people who are already approved. In the first 
regulation, it's changing the appeals process by replacing impartial, 
independent administrative

  law judges (ALJs) with internal agency lawyers, making it much more difficult 
for 

  people to navigate the process.

   

  They have also sent their proposal  that will dramatically increase 
"continuing disability reviews" (the process during which those receiving 
disability must prove they're still disabled)

  to the Office of Management and Budget for approval as a final rule. The 
administration admitted it is about dropping people out of the program , 
"saving"

  $2.6 billion. It would mean earlier and more frequent reviews for people on 
disability, likely older people who are physically unable to continue their

  work. This is simply, in the words  of Sen. Ron Wyden, "harassment of people 
with disabilities" that puts Americans at "greater risk of falling through the 
cracks."

   

  House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee blasted

  the final rule on cutting out judges, which is set to take effect on Dec. 16. 
"For nearly two years, we’ve sounded the alarm that this change would erode

  due process for Social Security and Supplemental Security Income applicants 
and beneficiaries and threaten their access to their earned benefits. The rule

  puts unqualified agency staff in control of deciding appeals hearings and 
contradicts the congressional intent of the law governing such proceedings."

   

  The rule would remove administrative law from taking up standard cases, 
conducting hearings, and issuing decisions on applications for disability 
benefits—all

  responsibilities currently reserved for them. The ALJ union 

  responded  early this year, calling the proposal a violation of current law 
and Supreme Court precedent, saying it would "effectively subject the entire 
administrative

  adjudicative process under performance appraisal control by the agency."

   

  These two rules are just Trump's kick in the teeth to vulnerable people. The 
new Biden administration and/or Congress will have to spend time and energy

  unwinding these rules, which have no other purpose than making life more 
difficult for people who are already hurting. As with every goddamned thing with

  everyone in Trump's orbit, the cruelty is the point.

   

  --

  Christopher (AKA CJ)

  Chaltain at Gmail

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:58 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

   

  I also can’t read the artickle eather. Can some one find the text of the 
artickle and send it? All I found was different links and no real artickle. 
From Mich.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
  Sent: November 16, 2020 9:57 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

   

  Neither could I.  Just found comments by other bloggers.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:05 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

   

  I can't read the article.

- Original Message - 

From: Simon A Fogarty 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

    Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:55 P

Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[Andy Baracco]

Same here,!  couldn't find the article itself, but it appears that it isn't new.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: kitty hevener 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 6:56 PM
  Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security


  Neither could I.  Just found comments by other bloggers.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:05 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

   

  I can't read the article.

- Original Message - 

From: Simon A Fogarty 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:55 PM

Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

 

I told you guys he was an A hole,

 

Is that something biden can reverse?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
matthew dyer
Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2020 1:57 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

 

IOut  rages is all I am going to say.  JMO 

 

Matthew

 

 

 

  On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

   

  If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to 
read this.

  
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre

   

   

   

  Richard

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flying.

  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss"

  --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

   

  Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

   

  *I’m not the card shark

   

   

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RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[Christopher Chaltain]

OK, here’s the text of the article. Note, I’m just presenting the text of the 
article. Although I’m no fan of President Trump, I do find this article to be a 
bit unnecessarily inflammatory, and I question it’s being posted to this list, 
although Richard did warn everyone in the subject line that it’s a political 
article.

 

Trump makes one last effort to cut Social Security, maximize hurt to the 
disabled

 

WASHINGTON, DC - MAY 26: U.S. President Donald Trump makes remarks during an 
event on protecting seniors with diabetes, in the Rose Garden at the White

House on May 26, 2020 in Washington, DC. The United States is closing in on 
100,000 deaths in less than four months caused by the coronavirus.

 

In the middle of the Trump pandemic, in which untold millions of people who 
survive the disease could end up disabled for life, the Trump administration

Announced  Friday that it's finalizing rules meant to do nothing but make it 
harder for disabled people to receive Social Security, and to endanger the 
Social Security

benefits of disabled people who are already approved. In the first regulation, 
it's changing the appeals process by replacing impartial, independent 
administrative

law judges (ALJs) with internal agency lawyers, making it much more difficult 
for 

people to navigate the process.

 

They have also sent their proposal  that will dramatically increase "continuing 
disability reviews" (the process during which those receiving disability must 
prove they're still disabled)

to the Office of Management and Budget for approval as a final rule. The 
administration admitted it is about dropping people out of the program , 
"saving"

$2.6 billion. It would mean earlier and more frequent reviews for people on 
disability, likely older people who are physically unable to continue their

work. This is simply, in the words  of Sen. Ron Wyden, "harassment of people 
with disabilities" that puts Americans at "greater risk of falling through the 
cracks."

 

House Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee blasted

the final rule on cutting out judges, which is set to take effect on Dec. 16. 
"For nearly two years, we’ve sounded the alarm that this change would erode

due process for Social Security and Supplemental Security Income applicants and 
beneficiaries and threaten their access to their earned benefits. The rule

puts unqualified agency staff in control of deciding appeals hearings and 
contradicts the congressional intent of the law governing such proceedings."

 

The rule would remove administrative law from taking up standard cases, 
conducting hearings, and issuing decisions on applications for disability 
benefits—all

responsibilities currently reserved for them. The ALJ union 

responded  early this year, calling the proposal a violation of current law and 
Supreme Court precedent, saying it would "effectively subject the entire 
administrative

adjudicative process under performance appraisal control by the agency."

 

These two rules are just Trump's kick in the teeth to vulnerable people. The 
new Biden administration and/or Congress will have to spend time and energy

unwinding these rules, which have no other purpose than making life more 
difficult for people who are already hurting. As with every goddamned thing with

everyone in Trump's orbit, the cruelty is the point.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

 

I also can’t read the artickle eather. Can some one find the text of the 
artickle and send it? All I found was different links and no real artickle. 
From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: November 16, 2020 9:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

 

Neither could I.  Just found comments by other bloggers.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Julie Dawson
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

 

I can't read the article.

- Original Message - 

From: Simon A Fogarty <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:55 PM

Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receivin

Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Me either. I cannot read the article. Safari is slow on my Mac.


> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:58 PM, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> 
> I also can’t read the artickle eather. Can some one find the text of the 
> artickle and send it? All I found was different links and no real artickle. 
> From Mich.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kitty hevener
> Sent: November 16, 2020 9:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
> person's receiving Social Security
>  
> Neither could I.  Just found comments by other bloggers.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Julie Dawson
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
> person's receiving Social Security
>  
> I can't read the article.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Simon A Fogarty <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:55 PM
>> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
>> person's receiving Social Security
>>  
>> I told you guys he was an A hole,
>>  
>> Is that something biden can reverse?
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of matthew dyer
>> Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2020 1:57 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
>> person's receiving Social Security
>>  
>> IOut  rages is all I am going to say.  JMO 
>>  
>> Matthew
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner >> <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read 
>>> this.
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RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[Mich Verrier]

I also can’t read the artickle eather. Can some one find the text of the 
artickle and send it? All I found was different links and no real artickle. 
From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: November 16, 2020 9:57 PM
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Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

 

Neither could I.  Just found comments by other bloggers.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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I can't read the article.

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Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:55 PM

Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

 

I told you guys he was an A hole,

 

Is that something biden can reverse?

 

 

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IOut  rages is all I am going to say.  JMO 

 

Matthew

 

 

 

On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read 
this.

 
<https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre>
 
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre

 

 

 

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RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[kitty hevener]

Neither could I.  Just found comments by other bloggers.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julie 
Dawson
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:05 PM
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person's receiving Social Security

 

I can't read the article.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:55 PM

Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

 

I told you guys he was an A hole,

 

Is that something biden can reverse?

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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person's receiving Social Security

 

IOut  rages is all I am going to say.  JMO 

 

Matthew

 

 

 

On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read 
this.

 
<https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre>
 
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Richard

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Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[Esther]

that's an understatement! Esther

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> On Nov 16, 2020, at 8:56 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> I told you guys he was an A hole,
>  
> Is that something biden can reverse?
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> matthew dyer
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2020 1:57 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
> person's receiving Social Security
>  
> IOut  rages is all I am going to say.  JMO.
>  
> Matthew
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>  
> If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read 
> this.
> https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[Esther]

that's an understatement! I can't wait till he gets out of office! Maybe they 
have to carry him out. I hope they do. It would be wonderful to see. Esther

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> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:05 PM, Julie Dawson  wrote:
> 
> 
> I can't read the article.
> - Original Message -
> From: Simon A Fogarty
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:55 PM
> Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
> person's receiving Social Security
> 
> I told you guys he was an A hole,
>  
> Is that something biden can reverse?
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> matthew dyer
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2020 1:57 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
> person's receiving Social Security
>  
> IOut  rages is all I am going to say.  JMO
>  
> Matthew
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>  
> If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read 
> this.
> https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
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> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss"
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Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[Julie Dawson]

I can't read the article.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon A Fogarty 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 7:55 PM
  Subject: RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security


  I told you guys he was an A hole,

   

  Is that something biden can reverse?

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
matthew dyer
  Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2020 1:57 pm
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled 
person's receiving Social Security

   

  IOut  rages is all I am going to say.  JMO 

   

  Matthew

   

   





On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

 

If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read 
this.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre

 

 

 

Richard

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RE: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[Simon A Fogarty]

I told you guys he was an A hole,

Is that something biden can reverse?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of matthew 
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IOut  rages is all I am going to say.  JMO.

Matthew




On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner 
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If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read 
this.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre



Richard
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Re: Warning, political article link included concerning disabled person's receiving Social Security

[matthew dyer]

IOut  rages is all I am going to say.  JMO.

Matthew



On Nov 16, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Richard Turner 
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If you are receiving Social Security for a Disability, you may want to read 
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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/16/1996165/-Trump-gives-disabled-people-one-more-kick-in-the-teeth-on-his-way-out-with-cuts-to-Social-Security?detail=emaildkre



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