Re: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill
I agree as I had the Apple 3rd Gen and bought the 4th Gen, and consider the Apple TV 4th Gen the worst investment I have ever made. I believe with the Apple TV 3rd Gen that Apple controlled the Apps and made them VO accessible, now with the 4th Gen Apple TV the individual developers control their apps and most of them are not accessible. Absolutely pathetic the direction of the 4th Gen Apple TV is headed. > On Mar 25, 2017, at 11:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > An interesting suggestion and one Apple of course could well afford. It would > be nice if something like this could be brought directly to the attention of > Tim Cook, but I am doubtful that posting this via social media or in an email > to Apple Accessibility will ever make it up the chain. Of course we have to > continue to lobby for our needs and hope that the overall commitment Apple > has towards accessibility in time results in a net gain and not a net loss. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > M. Taylor > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 6:50 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill > > Hello Jim, > > Unfortunately, I can confirm your findings especially with the CBS News app > and many, many others. > > All we can do is provide feedback and make our voices heard on social media > and in the App Store. > > A while ago I suggested to Apple that they develop some kind of an incentive > in order to compel developers to make their apps VoiceOver accessible. For > example, if a developer makes its app accessible, then apple would allow it > to keep 72% of its revenue instead of 70%. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Jim Ruby > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 10:20 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill > > Hi, is it just me? > It seems like accessability is going down hill. I am finding more and more > apps harder to use with simple voiceover gestures and some apps not > accessible at all yet still others you can some what use, but only part of it. > > Look at the abc app for example. You can find some things, but to try and > find a show you only hear the number of the item voice over will not read the > shows. I sent in feedback, but heard nothing back. > > I find myself just not using my apple tv that much any more. I used to watch > a lot of shows that I mis during the week, now I just forget about them. > > So to try and get my interest back in to this device what apps are you all > using? I like watching movies, news, weather, mist tv shows and games might > be fun. I also would like to have all the local networks such as abc, cbs, > fox, nbc and there is more. I know there is the tv app, but my cable provider > is on the list of providers, but you can't access the main list of them since > mine is not the top few apple shows I'm stuck. > > Maybe it is me? > > Thans for any thoughts. > > > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...
RE: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill
An interesting suggestion and one Apple of course could well afford. It would be nice if something like this could be brought directly to the attention of Tim Cook, but I am doubtful that posting this via social media or in an email to Apple Accessibility will ever make it up the chain. Of course we have to continue to lobby for our needs and hope that the overall commitment Apple has towards accessibility in time results in a net gain and not a net loss. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 6:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill Hello Jim, Unfortunately, I can confirm your findings especially with the CBS News app and many, many others. All we can do is provide feedback and make our voices heard on social media and in the App Store. A while ago I suggested to Apple that they develop some kind of an incentive in order to compel developers to make their apps VoiceOver accessible. For example, if a developer makes its app accessible, then apple would allow it to keep 72% of its revenue instead of 70%. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 10:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill Hi, is it just me? It seems like accessability is going down hill. I am finding more and more apps harder to use with simple voiceover gestures and some apps not accessible at all yet still others you can some what use, but only part of it. Look at the abc app for example. You can find some things, but to try and find a show you only hear the number of the item voice over will not read the shows. I sent in feedback, but heard nothing back. I find myself just not using my apple tv that much any more. I used to watch a lot of shows that I mis during the week, now I just forget about them. So to try and get my interest back in to this device what apps are you all using? I like watching movies, news, weather, mist tv shows and games might be fun. I also would like to have all the local networks such as abc, cbs, fox, nbc and there is more. I know there is the tv app, but my cable provider is on the list of providers, but you can't access the main list of them since mine is not the top few apple shows I'm stuck. Maybe it is me? Thans for any thoughts. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at c
RE: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill
Hello Jim, Unfortunately, I can confirm your findings especially with the CBS News app and many, many others. All we can do is provide feedback and make our voices heard on social media and in the App Store. A while ago I suggested to Apple that they develop some kind of an incentive in order to compel developers to make their apps VoiceOver accessible. For example, if a developer makes its app accessible, then apple would allow it to keep 72% of its revenue instead of 70%. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 10:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill Hi, is it just me? It seems like accessability is going down hill. I am finding more and more apps harder to use with simple voiceover gestures and some apps not accessible at all yet still others you can some what use, but only part of it. Look at the abc app for example. You can find some things, but to try and find a show you only hear the number of the item voice over will not read the shows. I sent in feedback, but heard nothing back. I find myself just not using my apple tv that much any more. I used to watch a lot of shows that I mis during the week, now I just forget about them. So to try and get my interest back in to this device what apps are you all using? I like watching movies, news, weather, mist tv shows and games might be fun. I also would like to have all the local networks such as abc, cbs, fox, nbc and there is more. I know there is the tv app, but my cable provider is on the list of providers, but you can't access the main list of them since mine is not the top few apple shows I'm stuck. Maybe it is me? Thans for any thoughts. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill
Hi, I was very disappointed with many of the apps I have tried lately. I purchased an Apple TV 4 even though my third gen worked fine because I wanted access to the thousands of channels instead of the 20 or 30 that were available on the third gen. Ok apps as they call them not channels. Anyway, it seems that every time I find an app I really want such as Dove which allegedly has hundreds of hours of family programming. It is not the least bit accessible. As in nothing was labeled to work with voiceover. I have become accustomed to not being able to play games since losing my vision several years ago and not playing graphically intensive games on a PlayStation 4 or other console device. But when I try a news app or a network app and it simply does not allow any voiceover control at all I get very frustrated. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 1:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: apple tv 4th gen apps accessibility going down hill Hi, is it just me? It seems like accessability is going down hill. I am finding more and more apps harder to use with simple voiceover gestures and some apps not accessible at all yet still others you can some what use, but only part of it. Look at the abc app for example. You can find some things, but to try and find a show you only hear the number of the item voice over will not read the shows. I sent in feedback, but heard nothing back. I find myself just not using my apple tv that much any more. I used to watch a lot of shows that I mis during the week, now I just forget about them. So to try and get my interest back in to this device what apps are you all using? I like watching movies, news, weather, mist tv shows and games might be fun. I also would like to have all the local networks such as abc, cbs, fox, nbc and there is more. I know there is the tv app, but my cable provider is on the list of providers, but you can't access the main list of them since mine is not the top few apple shows I'm stuck. Maybe it is me? Thans for any thoughts. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
