RE: native email client questions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can still read emails separately, just flick down when you are on the main 
message of a thread until you come to where it says "Expand", then double tap 
and the thread expands and you can read each email, delete it and so on.
I am not beta testing right now but I am prety sure Apple is aware that the 
2-finger flick up doesn't start reading the message body any more and from the 
way it sounds they will bring this back.
I tried the Outlook app for a while and while it is also a nice app, I really 
am used to use the scrub gesture to back out of messages and also out of a 
particular mailbox back to my list of mailboxes and in Outlook you can't do 
this, if I want to get out of my Outlook.com account, for example, so I can 
open my work account I have to tap on the Close button at the top left. It's a 
minor thing, but it's one of these little things which for me are annoying.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: native email client questions

Sieghard, I appreciate the native email app. However, is there a way when you 
open the thread on the inbox page to have the whole email read? Also, if I go 
into the mail itself is there a specific place to touch where you can read the 
email before flicking up or down to read another email in the thread? It used 
to be in native email app that when you entered email you could flick up with 2 
fingers and the post would read from the beginning of just the post not the 
heading. That is why I am reluctant to try another email client as I probably 
would havd the same problems I have now that drive me crazy. Gosh it was nice 
to swipe up and read each email separately! I am asking you because you use the 
email and like it. However, anyone, of course, can give info and opinion. Thank 
you so much. I hear a new update is coming Feb 10. Can this be confirmed and is 
there going to be a fix for mail?



Reggie and Lex

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Re: native email client questions

[Mary Otten]

Somewhere, possibly on Apple Vis, I recall seeing something about an 
acknowledgment from Apple that this two finger flick up thing was in fact not a 
design change as had been postulated buy some folks in our community. So they 
know what it is, and they know it is broken. Now let's hope they actually fix 
it in a timely manner. It's interesting about the idea of putting your finger 
in the same place on the screen every time to two finger flick down and read a 
message. I find that this does not work all that well, possibly because of 
different length headers? Sometimes it works, and sometimes you hear what you 
think is going to be the start of the message, foot down, and somehow focus has 
gone elsewhere and you here stuff you didn't want. I don't know if it's due to 
a mailing list being used instead of an individual message or what. But I still 
find myself frustrated at the inefficiency of the new method required to read 
messages. That and the unnecessary repetition of row and column numbers in a 
lot of messages. That is a tremendous time waster that they really need to fix, 
and I don't think they get it, based on my correspondence with excess ability. 
They seem to think that's what we want. Or at least of the person I was in 
correspondence with didn't see a problem. I wish they would try reading 
messages that say row X and Collin why every single line. But that's another 
topic.

Mary


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> On Jan 17, 2017, at 9:00 AM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have written but will do so again. I also told the gentleman on the phone 
> in accessibility of the problem, though that was not my question to him. 
> However, I wonder if they really understand what we are talking about. He 
> acted like he had no idea what I meant. I explained in steps too. Thus, 
> wonder if they can really fix it even if there are many voices wanting it. 
> Remember, they look at the whole page and can quickly scan the heading. I 
> think it is now 2 or 3 updates with the problem. Thanks for the description 
> of how to find the beginning of a message, though. One thing I noticed they 
> fixed was the first post in conversation is now the one that is the original. 
> It may be the seventh message, but six through one answer it. Happy about 
> that fix.
> 
> 
> Reggie and Lex
> 
> 
> On Jan 17, 2017, at 11:48 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Please write to accessibil...@apple.com and add your voice to wanting the two 
> finger flick up back to read Emails.
> But, if you touch around the middle of the screen with one finger, you are 
> going to be very close to the start of the message and can flick down with 
> two fingers at that point to read the rest of the message.
> On my 5S, with any Email message, it is almost exactly the middle of the 
> screen where the message starts.  I would say within an eighth of an inch 
> anyway.
> 
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> , 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> regina alvarado
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: native email client questions
> 
> Sieghard, I appreciate the native email app. However, is there a way when you 
> open the thread on the inbox page to have the whole email read? Also, if I go 
> into the mail itself is there a specific place to touch where you can read 
> the email before flicking up or down to read another email in the thread? It 
> used to be in native email app that when you entered email you could flick up 
> with 2 fingers and the post would read from the beginning of just the post 
> not the heading. That is why I am reluctant to try another email client as I 
> probably would havd the same problems I have now that drive me crazy. Gosh it 
> was nice to swipe up and read each email separately! I am asking you because 
> you use the email and like it. However, anyone, of course, can give info and 
> opinion. Thank you so much. I hear a new update is coming Feb 10. Can this be 
> confirmed and is there going to be a fix for mail?
> 
> 
> 
> Reggie and Lex
> 
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Re: native email client questions

[regina alvarado]

I have written but will do so again. I also told the gentleman on the phone in 
accessibility of the problem, though that was not my question to him. However, 
I wonder if they really understand what we are talking about. He acted like he 
had no idea what I meant. I explained in steps too. Thus, wonder if they can 
really fix it even if there are many voices wanting it. Remember, they look at 
the whole page and can quickly scan the heading. I think it is now 2 or 3 
updates with the problem. Thanks for the description of how to find the 
beginning of a message, though. One thing I noticed they fixed was the first 
post in conversation is now the one that is the original. It may be the seventh 
message, but six through one answer it. Happy about that fix.


Reggie and Lex


On Jan 17, 2017, at 11:48 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

Hi,
Please write to accessibil...@apple.com and add your voice to wanting the two 
finger flick up back to read Emails.
But, if you touch around the middle of the screen with one finger, you are 
going to be very close to the start of the message and can flick down with two 
fingers at that point to read the rest of the message.
On my 5S, with any Email message, it is almost exactly the middle of the screen 
where the message starts.  I would say within an eighth of an inch anyway.

HTH,
Richard

, 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: native email client questions

Sieghard, I appreciate the native email app. However, is there a way when you 
open the thread on the inbox page to have the whole email read? Also, if I go 
into the mail itself is there a specific place to touch where you can read the 
email before flicking up or down to read another email in the thread? It used 
to be in native email app that when you entered email you could flick up with 2 
fingers and the post would read from the beginning of just the post not the 
heading. That is why I am reluctant to try another email client as I probably 
would havd the same problems I have now that drive me crazy. Gosh it was nice 
to swipe up and read each email separately! I am asking you because you use the 
email and like it. However, anyone, of course, can give info and opinion. Thank 
you so much. I hear a new update is coming Feb 10. Can this be confirmed and is 
there going to be a fix for mail?



Reggie and Lex

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RE: native email client questions

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
Please write to accessibil...@apple.com and add your voice to wanting the two 
finger flick up back to read Emails.
But, if you touch around the middle of the screen with one finger, you are 
going to be very close to the start of the message and can flick down with two 
fingers at that point to read the rest of the message.
On my 5S, with any Email message, it is almost exactly the middle of the screen 
where the message starts.  I would say within an eighth of an inch anyway.

HTH,
Richard

, 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: native email client questions

Sieghard, I appreciate the native email app. However, is there a way when you 
open the thread on the inbox page to have the whole email read? Also, if I go 
into the mail itself is there a specific place to touch where you can read the 
email before flicking up or down to read another email in the thread? It used 
to be in native email app that when you entered email you could flick up with 2 
fingers and the post would read from the beginning of just the post not the 
heading. That is why I am reluctant to try another email client as I probably 
would havd the same problems I have now that drive me crazy. Gosh it was nice 
to swipe up and read each email separately! I am asking you because you use the 
email and like it. However, anyone, of course, can give info and opinion. Thank 
you so much. I hear a new update is coming Feb 10. Can this be confirmed and is 
there going to be a fix for mail?



Reggie and Lex

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