Re: no voiceover

[Anna Dresner]

Try asking Siri to turn off VoiceOver and then asking Siri to turn it back on.

> On Nov 14, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Try turning up Volume, when you try to make it talk. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 3:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: no voiceover
> 
> I just finished helping a friend set up his new iPhone SE 2020 using quick 
> start. This entire time voiceover was just fine. When it said it was 
> completed and rebooted we heard the voiceover clicks but no speech. These are 
> the things we tried:
> 3 finger double tap
> 2 finger flick down from top to bottom while pressing the volume up button 
> shutting the phone off, waiting then turning it back on triple clicking the 
> home button when siri was asked to turn on voiceover she said it was already 
> on.
> 
> have we left anything out? 
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RE: no voiceover

[Carolyn]

Try turning up Volume, when you try to make it talk. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 3:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: no voiceover

I just finished helping a friend set up his new iPhone SE 2020 using quick 
start. This entire time voiceover was just fine. When it said it was completed 
and rebooted we heard the voiceover clicks but no speech. These are the things 
we tried:
3 finger double tap
2 finger flick down from top to bottom while pressing the volume up button 
shutting the phone off, waiting then turning it back on triple clicking the 
home button when siri was asked to turn on voiceover she said it was already on.
 
have we left anything out? 

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Re: no voiceover

[Robert Doc Wright]

Thank you that is one thing we did not try. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon A Fogarty 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 2:15 AM
  Subject: RE: no voiceover


  Sounds possibly that the voiceover volume is down,

   

  There is I believe a volume option in the rota for voiceover,

  Is it possible your friend has headphones they could plug in and try to see 
what happens 

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
  Sent: Saturday, 14 November 2020 9:00 pm
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: no voiceover

   

  I just finished helping a friend set up his new iPhone SE 2020 using quick 
start. This entire time voiceover was just fine. When it said it was completed 
and rebooted we heard the voiceover clicks but no speech. These are the things 
we tried:

  3 finger double tap

  2 finger flick down from top to bottom while pressing the volume up button

  shutting the phone off, waiting then turning it back on

  triple clicking the home button

  when siri was asked to turn on voiceover she said it was already on.

   

  have we left anything out? 

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RE: no voiceover

[Simon A Fogarty]

Sounds possibly that the voiceover volume is down,

There is I believe a volume option in the rota for voiceover,
Is it possible your friend has headphones they could plug in and try to see 
what happens

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Saturday, 14 November 2020 9:00 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: no voiceover

I just finished helping a friend set up his new iPhone SE 2020 using quick 
start. This entire time voiceover was just fine. When it said it was completed 
and rebooted we heard the voiceover clicks but no speech. These are the things 
we tried:
3 finger double tap
2 finger flick down from top to bottom while pressing the volume up button
shutting the phone off, waiting then turning it back on
triple clicking the home button
when siri was asked to turn on voiceover she said it was already on.

have we left anything out?
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Re: no voiceover

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Just to add to what David said, sometimes the way your holding your phone makes 
a difference.Especially if not using a case.  Its very easy for a portion of 
your hand, like the palm a long your thumb for example, to be in contact with 
the very edge of the screen.  This can easily register unwanted gestures.

Ricardo Walker
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On Aug 3, 2013, at 6:20 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:

> The iOS device misinterpreting a gesture command is about as common as the 
> computer misinterpreting a keyboard key press. It can happen, but almost 
> never does. In actuality, the touch-screen is extremely sensitive. We blind 
> people tend to touch much more firmly than we need to. Barely touching the 
> screen, with a touch that is so light that we do not realize we are touching 
> the screen, is all that is required. So, when iOS does something different 
> than you are expecting it to do, either your angle is changed enough that the 
> direction of your flick or slide is the other direction, or the number of 
> fingers touching / tapping the screen is more than you thought. Every time I 
> test it again because I am experiencing different commands, it becomes 
> obvious that my fingers are becoming lazy again.
> 
> Always, the best way to double-check your commands is to go into the practice 
> area and play around.
> 
> The best analogy I can think of is, if you place your fingers on the wrong 
> home row keys on the keyboard and reach down to press control c to copy, you 
> know you are pressing control c. But, your finger is landing on v, so more 
> text is being added. The computer is doing exactly what you are telling it to 
> do. The only problem is, you are telling it something different than you 
> believe.
> 
> Remember, iOS touch-screen only requires the slightest touch to function. It 
> does not require any pressure at all.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 03/08/2013, at 19:40, "Arnold Schmidt"  wrote:
> 
>> A three-finger double tap turns speech on and off, a three-finger triple tap 
>> turns screen curtain on and off.  I wish it were the other way around.  I 
>> can't recall a specific example at the moment, but I have had speech turn 
>> off when I was doing something very different from a three-finger double 
>> tap, it just interpreted what I was doing as such.  If it were a 
>> three-finger triple tap to turn speech on and off, perhaps it wouldn't be so 
>> quick to think I was turning speech off. 
>>  
>> Arnold Schmidt 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Kimmie
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 10:51 PM
>> Subject: RE: no voiceover
>> 
>> Wow! Thanks for the info.  I’ll keep that.  I have a problem with some times 
>> when I pick up my iphone, and somehow I’ve touched something, and next thing 
>> it says speech off, well first up I tapped, slapped, swiped, slid, and 
>> everything else you care to name, but it took ages for the speech to come 
>> back on again, so I triple clicked and turned voice over on again, but is 
>> there an easier way? I don’t mind doing the triple click, but why is it so 
>> easy to touch the screen, and speech goes off, without you
>> Knowing what part of the screen that caused it to say speech off.
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Alan Paganelli
>> Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 8:00 a.m.
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: no voiceover
>>  
>> To turn on or to turn off "change with buttons" on your iPhone, do the 
>> following.
>>  
>> 1 Open settings.
>> 2Go to and open "Sounds"
>> 3 Flick right with 1 finger until you get to the toggle, "Change with 
>> buttons"  Again, this is a toggle.  Double tap it with 1 finger to toggle on 
>> and off.  When it's off, the up/down buttons on the side of your iPhone only 
>> control the master volume.  So, you can try it either way and live with it 
>> awhile either way and see which one you like better.  When I first got my 
>> iPhone over 2 years ago, I had set it to change with buttons because 
>> somebody told me it was easier for the blind to use that way.  Not knowing 
>> the difference and this being my first iPhone, I did as instructed.  I too 
>> experienced problems with things being turned down or up and then not 
>> knowing to change it and wound up spending more time being frustrated then 
>> anything else.  I by then had forgotten about 

Re: no voiceover

[David Chittenden]

The iOS device misinterpreting a gesture command is about as common as the 
computer misinterpreting a keyboard key press. It can happen, but almost never 
does. In actuality, the touch-screen is extremely sensitive. We blind people 
tend to touch much more firmly than we need to. Barely touching the screen, 
with a touch that is so light that we do not realise we are touching the 
screen, is all that is required. So, when iOS does something different than you 
are expecting it to do, either your angle is changed enough that the direction 
of your flick or slide is the other direction, or the number of fingers 
touching / tapping the screen is more than you thought. Every time I test it 
again because I am experiencing different commands, it becomes obvious that my 
fingers are becoming lazy again.

Always, the best way to double-check your commands is to go into the practice 
area and play around.

The best analogy I can think of is, if you place your fingers on the wrong home 
row keys on the keyboard and reach down to press control c to copy, you know 
you are pressing control c. But, your finger is landing on v, so more text is 
being added. The computer is doing exactly what you are telling it to do. The 
only problem is, you are telling it something different than you believe.

Remember, iOS touch-screen only requires the slightest touch to function. It 
does not require any pressure at all.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 03/08/2013, at 19:40, "Arnold Schmidt"  wrote:

> A three-finger double tap turns speech on and off, a three-finger triple tap 
> turns screen curtain on and off.  I wish it were the other way around.  I 
> can't recall a specific example at the moment, but I have had speech turn off 
> when I was doing something very different from a three-finger double tap, it 
> just interpreted what I was doing as such.  If it were a three-finger triple 
> tap to turn speech on and off, perhaps it wouldn't be so quick to think I was 
> turning speech off. 
>  
> Arnold Schmidt 
> - Original Message -
> From: Kimmie
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 10:51 PM
> Subject: RE: no voiceover
> 
> Wow! Thanks for the info.  I’ll keep that.  I have a problem with some times 
> when I pick up my iphone, and somehow I’ve touched something, and next thing 
> it says speech off, well first up I tapped, slapped, swiped, slid, and 
> everything else you care to name, but it took ages for the speech to come 
> back on again, so I triple clicked and turned voice over on again, but is 
> there an easier way? I don’t mind doing the triple click, but why is it so 
> easy to touch the screen, and speech goes off, without you
> Knowing what part of the screen that caused it to say speech off.
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Paganelli
> Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 8:00 a.m.
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: no voiceover
>  
> To turn on or to turn off "change with buttons" on your iPhone, do the 
> following.
>  
> 1 Open settings.
> 2Go to and open "Sounds"
> 3 Flick right with 1 finger until you get to the toggle, "Change with 
> buttons"  Again, this is a toggle.  Double tap it with 1 finger to toggle on 
> and off.  When it's off, the up/down buttons on the side of your iPhone only 
> control the master volume.  So, you can try it either way and live with it 
> awhile either way and see which one you like better.  When I first got my 
> iPhone over 2 years ago, I had set it to change with buttons because somebody 
> told me it was easier for the blind to use that way.  Not knowing the 
> difference and this being my first iPhone, I did as instructed.  I too 
> experienced problems with things being turned down or up and then not knowing 
> to change it and wound up spending more time being frustrated then anything 
> else.  I by then had forgotten about "change with buttons"  By accident 
> around a year or so ago I came across it again and thought, change what?  
> Then I heard the voice over tip and turned it off.  No more problems with
> strange volume changes.  So you can turn down the master volume at night so 
> you can hear your phone and not wake up the rest of the house!  I did find a 
> way to fix that though.  I bought an iPhone for my wife!  Now she can't say 
> anything cause she does it too!  Problem solved! 
> 
> Regards,
>  
> Alan
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RE: no voiceover

[Kimmie]

No I just pick up the phone to read a text, and maybe when I'm picking it
up, I must place three fingers on the screen, but I certainly don't double
tap.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Thom
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 3:05 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: no voiceover

 

Are you doing a three finger double tap by mistake?

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kimmie
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 10:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: no voiceover

Wow! Thanks for the info.  I'll keep that.  I have a problem with some times
when I pick up my iphone, and somehow I've touched something, and next thing
it says speech off, well first up I tapped, slapped, swiped, slid, and
everything else you care to name, but it took ages for the speech to come
back on again, so I triple clicked and turned voice over on again, but is
there an easier way? I don't mind doing the triple click, but why is it so
easy to touch the screen, and speech goes off, without you 

Knowing what part of the screen that caused it to say speech off. 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 8:00 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no voiceover

 

To turn on or to turn off "change with buttons" on your iPhone, do the
following.

 

1 Open settings.

2Go to and open "Sounds"

3 Flick right with 1 finger until you get to the toggle, "Change with
buttons"  Again, this is a toggle.  Double tap it with 1 finger to toggle on
and off.  When it's off, the up/down buttons on the side of your iPhone only
control the master volume.  So, you can try it either way and live with it
awhile either way and see which one you like better.  When I first got my
iPhone over 2 years ago, I had set it to change with buttons because
somebody told me it was easier for the blind to use that way.  Not knowing
the difference and this being my first iPhone, I did as instructed.  I too
experienced problems with things being turned down or up and then not
knowing to change it and wound up spending more time being frustrated then
anything else.  I by then had forgotten about "change with buttons"  By
accident around a year or so ago I came across it again and thought, change
what?  Then I heard the voice over tip and turned it off.  No more problems
with strange volume changes.  So you can turn down the master volume at
night so you can hear your phone and not wake up the rest of the house!  I
did find a way to fix that though.  I bought an iPhone for my wife!  Now she
can't say anything cause she does it too!  Problem solved! 


Regards,

 

Alan

 

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- Original Message - 

From: Kimmie <mailto:pegasu...@xtra.co.nz>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:17 PM

Subject: RE: no voiceover

 

I got the first part of your message, but where can I find where it says
change volume with button? I used to have mine on mute, but well I forgot to
take it off, and missed some calls.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 7:12 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no voiceover

 

If you take the volume out of the rotor, you won't have that to deal with.
I use to have issues with that and then I found in the settings, change
volume with buttons and disabled it.  Then all the up/down buttons on your
iPhone only control the master volume instead.  With change with buttons
turned on, you can get yourself into all kinds of trouble.  For example,
that clicking sound you hear.  When your moving your finger around and no
text is there and you then use the up or down volume controls on the side of
your iPhone, you'll adjust the sound of those clicks because they are what
has focus at the time.  So then you move on to something else and there you
are wondering why your iPhone no longer makes that clicking sound.
Sometimes, I don't want to hear that and I found that if I turn off the mute
switch, my iPhone quits making that clicking sound which is useful for when
I'm on the phone and it's saying press 3 for this and 4 for that and 5 to
maybe speak to a live person if we can find one.

 

HTH


Regards,

 

Alan

 

RE: no voiceover

[Kimmie]

I did the reset, and oh man I had a hell of a time remembering what was set
where, and how, and goodness knows what.  When I did my first reset, I
managed to put everything in the way I had it before, but some of the
proununciations was wrong, so I did another reset, and managed to get it
right. How! I don't know. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 3:32 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no voiceover

 

I would suggest following the instructions I gave to see if you some how
have "change with buttons" turned on.  It would explain the weird things you
described.  As I said in my message, the button is a toggle and it will
announce it's status as either on or off.  I recommend it be off but before
you do that if it got turned on to adjust your volume settings before
turning "change with buttons" off or alternatively, you could go into
settings, general, reset, and choose "reset all settings"  This will restore
your phone to the factory defaults.  Sadly enough you would then have to
change many of your settings to the way you like them which would be in my
opinion like using a pile driver to push in a thumb tack so the best way in
my opinion would be to adjust your volume settings before you turn off
"change settings with buttons" first.


Regards,

 

Alan

 

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 

Please click on: 
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 

From: Kimmie <mailto:pegasu...@xtra.co.nz>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 7:51 PM

Subject: RE: no voiceover

 

Wow! Thanks for the info.  I'll keep that.  I have a problem with some times
when I pick up my iphone, and somehow I've touched something, and next thing
it says speech off, well first up I tapped, slapped, swiped, slid, and
everything else you care to name, but it took ages for the speech to come
back on again, so I triple clicked and turned voice over on again, but is
there an easier way? I don't mind doing the triple click, but why is it so
easy to touch the screen, and speech goes off, without you 

Knowing what part of the screen that caused it to say speech off. 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 8:00 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no voiceover

 

To turn on or to turn off "change with buttons" on your iPhone, do the
following.

 

1 Open settings.

2Go to and open "Sounds"

3 Flick right with 1 finger until you get to the toggle, "Change with
buttons"  Again, this is a toggle.  Double tap it with 1 finger to toggle on
and off.  When it's off, the up/down buttons on the side of your iPhone only
control the master volume.  So, you can try it either way and live with it
awhile either way and see which one you like better.  When I first got my
iPhone over 2 years ago, I had set it to change with buttons because
somebody told me it was easier for the blind to use that way.  Not knowing
the difference and this being my first iPhone, I did as instructed.  I too
experienced problems with things being turned down or up and then not
knowing to change it and wound up spending more time being frustrated then
anything else.  I by then had forgotten about "change with buttons"  By
accident around a year or so ago I came across it again and thought, change
what?  Then I heard the voice over tip and turned it off.  No more problems
with strange volume changes.  So you can turn down the master volume at
night so you can hear your phone and not wake up the rest of the house!  I
did find a way to fix that though.  I bought an iPhone for my wife!  Now she
can't say anything cause she does it too!  Problem solved! 


Regards,

 

Alan

 

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 

Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  I often add files so check back regularly!

 

The albums in Technics  format formerly on my website are still
available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message ----- 

From: Kimmie <mailto:pegasu...@xtra.co.nz>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:17 PM

Subject: RE: no

Re: no voiceover

[Arnold Schmidt]

A three-finger double tap turns speech on and off, a three-finger triple tap 
turns screen curtain on and off.  I wish it were the other way around.  I can't 
recall a specific example at the moment, but I have had speech turn off when I 
was doing something very different from a three-finger double tap, it just 
interpreted what I was doing as such.  If it were a three-finger triple tap to 
turn speech on and off, perhaps it wouldn't be so quick to think I was turning 
speech off.  

Arnold Schmidt 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kimmie 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 10:51 PM
  Subject: RE: no voiceover


  Wow! Thanks for the info.  I'll keep that.  I have a problem with some times 
when I pick up my iphone, and somehow I've touched something, and next thing it 
says speech off, well first up I tapped, slapped, swiped, slid, and everything 
else you care to name, but it took ages for the speech to come back on again, 
so I triple clicked and turned voice over on again, but is there an easier way? 
I don't mind doing the triple click, but why is it so easy to touch the screen, 
and speech goes off, without you 

  Knowing what part of the screen that caused it to say speech off. 

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Paganelli
  Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 8:00 a.m.
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: no voiceover

   

  To turn on or to turn off "change with buttons" on your iPhone, do the 
following.

   

  1 Open settings.

  2Go to and open "Sounds"

  3 Flick right with 1 finger until you get to the toggle, "Change with 
buttons"  Again, this is a toggle.  Double tap it with 1 finger to toggle on 
and off.  When it's off, the up/down buttons on the side of your iPhone only 
control the master volume.  So, you can try it either way and live with it 
awhile either way and see which one you like better.  When I first got my 
iPhone over 2 years ago, I had set it to change with buttons because somebody 
told me it was easier for the blind to use that way.  Not knowing the 
difference and this being my first iPhone, I did as instructed.  I too 
experienced problems with things being turned down or up and then not knowing 
to change it and wound up spending more time being frustrated then anything 
else.  I by then had forgotten about "change with buttons"  By accident around 
a year or so ago I came across it again and thought, change what?  Then I heard 
the voice over tip and turned it off.  No more problems with strange volume 
changes.  So you can turn down the master volume at night so you can hear your 
phone and not wake up the rest of the house!  I did find a way to fix that 
though.  I bought an iPhone for my wife!  Now she can't say anything cause she 
does it too!  Problem solved! 


  Regards,

   

  Alan

   

  Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

   

  Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

   

  Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
  There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
  the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  I often add files so check back regularly!

   

  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my website are still
  available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 

From: Kimmie 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:17 PM

Subject: RE: no voiceover

 

I got the first part of your message, but where can I find where it says 
change volume with button? I used to have mine on mute, but well I forgot to 
take it off, and missed some calls.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 7:12 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no voiceover

 

If you take the volume out of the rotor, you won't have that to deal with.  
I use to have issues with that and then I found in the settings, change volume 
with buttons and disabled it.  Then all the up/down buttons on your iPhone only 
control the master volume instead.  With change with buttons turned on, you can 
get yourself into all kinds of trouble.  For example, that clicking sound you 
hear.  When your moving your finger around and no text is there and you then 
use the up or down volume controls on the side of your iPhone, you'll adjust 
the sound of those clicks because they are what has focus at the time.  So then 
you move on to something else and there you are wondering why your iPhone no 
longer makes that clicking sound.  Sometimes, I don't want to hear that and I 
found that if I turn off the mute switch, my iPhone quits making that clicking 
sound which is useful for when I

Re: no voiceover

[Alan Paganelli]

I use the 3 finger double tap to toggle speech off and on again when I am 
answering a phone call.  Sometimes I forget to goggle it back on again and then 
feel stupid when I'm wondering what happened to VO!  Then the duh moment 
passes! 

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  Move 
out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on: 
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lisa belville 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 8:51 PM
  Subject: Re: no voiceover


  That's the three finger double tap.  It always says speech off and then 
  speech on if you repeat it.  Triple click home will specifically say voice 
  over off.

  The advantage to the three finger double tap is that you can turn speech 
  off, but VO is still running, so your gestures haven't changed, so if you 
  turn off speech to say listen to an audio track or something and know you're 
  on the next/prev button or something you can double tap it while the speech 
  is off.

  Trust me, I've done it enough by accident, too, so I've gotten good at 
  turning speech on and off that way.
  I may have had an encounter with the ugly stick, but the whole tree is after 
  you!
  Lisa Belville
  missktlab1...@frontier.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: "Kimmie" 
  To: 
  Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 9:51 PM
  Subject: RE: no voiceover


  > Wow! Thanks for the info.  I'll keep that.  I have a problem with some 
  > times
  > when I pick up my iphone, and somehow I've touched something, and next 
  > thing
  > it says speech off, well first up I tapped, slapped, swiped, slid, and
  > everything else you care to name, but it took ages for the speech to come
  > back on again, so I triple clicked and turned voice over on again, but is
  > there an easier way? I don't mind doing the triple click, but why is it so
  > easy to touch the screen, and speech goes off, without you
  >
  > Knowing what part of the screen that caused it to say speech off.
  >
  > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
  > Of Alan Paganelli
  > Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 8:00 a.m.
  > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  > Subject: Re: no voiceover
  >
  >
  >
  > To turn on or to turn off "change with buttons" on your iPhone, do the
  > following.
  >
  >
  >
  > 1 Open settings.
  >
  > 2Go to and open "Sounds"
  >
  > 3 Flick right with 1 finger until you get to the toggle, "Change with
  > buttons"  Again, this is a toggle.  Double tap it with 1 finger to toggle 
  > on
  > and off.  When it's off, the up/down buttons on the side of your iPhone 
  > only
  > control the master volume.  So, you can try it either way and live with it
  > awhile either way and see which one you like better.  When I first got my
  > iPhone over 2 years ago, I had set it to change with buttons because
  > somebody told me it was easier for the blind to use that way.  Not knowing
  > the difference and this being my first iPhone, I did as instructed.  I too
  > experienced problems with things being turned down or up and then not
  > knowing to change it and wound up spending more time being frustrated then
  > anything else.  I by then had forgotten about "change with buttons"  By
  > accident around a year or so ago I came across it again and thought, 
  > change
  > what?  Then I heard the voice over tip and turned it off.  No more 
  > problems
  > with strange volume changes.  So you can turn down the master volume at
  > night so you can hear your phone and not wake up the rest of the house!  I
  > did find a way to fix that though.  I bought an iPhone for my wife!  Now 
  > she
  > can't say anything cause she does it too!  Problem solved! 
  >
  >
  > Regards,
  >
  >
  >
  > Alan
  >
  >
  >
  > Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
  >
  >
  >
  > Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
  > Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
  >
  >
  >
  > Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
  > There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
  > on
  > the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  I often add files so check back regularly!
  >
  >
  >
  > The albums in Technics  format formerly on my website are still
  > a

Re: no voiceover

[Lisa belville]

That's the three finger double tap.  It always says speech off and then 
speech on if you repeat it.  Triple click home will specifically say voice 
over off.


The advantage to the three finger double tap is that you can turn speech 
off, but VO is still running, so your gestures haven't changed, so if you 
turn off speech to say listen to an audio track or something and know you're 
on the next/prev button or something you can double tap it while the speech 
is off.


Trust me, I've done it enough by accident, too, so I've gotten good at 
turning speech on and off that way.
I may have had an encounter with the ugly stick, but the whole tree is after 
you!

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Kimmie" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 9:51 PM
Subject: RE: no voiceover


Wow! Thanks for the info.  I'll keep that.  I have a problem with some 
times
when I pick up my iphone, and somehow I've touched something, and next 
thing

it says speech off, well first up I tapped, slapped, swiped, slid, and
everything else you care to name, but it took ages for the speech to come
back on again, so I triple clicked and turned voice over on again, but is
there an easier way? I don't mind doing the triple click, but why is it so
easy to touch the screen, and speech goes off, without you

Knowing what part of the screen that caused it to say speech off.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 8:00 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no voiceover



To turn on or to turn off "change with buttons" on your iPhone, do the
following.



1 Open settings.

2Go to and open "Sounds"

3 Flick right with 1 finger until you get to the toggle, "Change with
buttons"  Again, this is a toggle.  Double tap it with 1 finger to toggle 
on
and off.  When it's off, the up/down buttons on the side of your iPhone 
only

control the master volume.  So, you can try it either way and live with it
awhile either way and see which one you like better.  When I first got my
iPhone over 2 years ago, I had set it to change with buttons because
somebody told me it was easier for the blind to use that way.  Not knowing
the difference and this being my first iPhone, I did as instructed.  I too
experienced problems with things being turned down or up and then not
knowing to change it and wound up spending more time being frustrated then
anything else.  I by then had forgotten about "change with buttons"  By
accident around a year or so ago I came across it again and thought, 
change
what?  Then I heard the voice over tip and turned it off.  No more 
problems

with strange volume changes.  So you can turn down the master volume at
night so you can hear your phone and not wake up the rest of the house!  I
did find a way to fix that though.  I bought an iPhone for my wife!  Now 
she

can't say anything cause she does it too!  Problem solved! 


Regards,



Alan



Go Chicago Bears in 2013!



Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.



Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on

the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  I often add files so check back regularly!



The albums in Technics  format formerly on my website are still
available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 


From: Kimmie <mailto:pegasu...@xtra.co.nz>

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:17 PM

Subject: RE: no voiceover



I got the first part of your message, but where can I find where it says
change volume with button? I used to have mine on mute, but well I forgot 
to

take it off, and missed some calls.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 7:12 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no voiceover



If you take the volume out of the rotor, you won't have that to deal with.
I use to have issues with that and then I found in the settings, change
volume with buttons and disabled it.  Then all the up/down buttons on your
iPhone only control the master volume instead.  With change with buttons
turned on, you can get yourself into all kinds of trouble.  For example,
that clicking sound you hear.  When your moving your finger around and no
text is there and you then use the up or down volume controls on the side 
of

your iPhone, you'll adjust the sound of those clicks because they are what
has focus at the time.  So then you move on to something else and there 
you

are wondering why your iPhone no longer makes that clicking sound.
Sometimes, I don't want to hear that and I found that if I turn off 

Re: no voiceover

[Alan Paganelli]

I would suggest following the instructions I gave to see if you some how have 
"change with buttons" turned on.  It would explain the weird things you 
described.  As I said in my message, the button is a toggle and it will 
announce it's status as either on or off.  I recommend it be off but before you 
do that if it got turned on to adjust your volume settings before turning 
"change with buttons" off or alternatively, you could go into settings, 
general, reset, and choose "reset all settings"  This will restore your phone 
to the factory defaults.  Sadly enough you would then have to change many of 
your settings to the way you like them which would be in my opinion like using 
a pile driver to push in a thumb tack so the best way in my opinion would be to 
adjust your volume settings before you turn off "change settings with buttons" 
first.

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  Move 
out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on: 
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kimmie 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 7:51 PM
  Subject: RE: no voiceover


  Wow! Thanks for the info.  I'll keep that.  I have a problem with some times 
when I pick up my iphone, and somehow I've touched something, and next thing it 
says speech off, well first up I tapped, slapped, swiped, slid, and everything 
else you care to name, but it took ages for the speech to come back on again, 
so I triple clicked and turned voice over on again, but is there an easier way? 
I don't mind doing the triple click, but why is it so easy to touch the screen, 
and speech goes off, without you 

  Knowing what part of the screen that caused it to say speech off. 

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Paganelli
  Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 8:00 a.m.
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: no voiceover

   

  To turn on or to turn off "change with buttons" on your iPhone, do the 
following.

   

  1 Open settings.

  2Go to and open "Sounds"

  3 Flick right with 1 finger until you get to the toggle, "Change with 
buttons"  Again, this is a toggle.  Double tap it with 1 finger to toggle on 
and off.  When it's off, the up/down buttons on the side of your iPhone only 
control the master volume.  So, you can try it either way and live with it 
awhile either way and see which one you like better.  When I first got my 
iPhone over 2 years ago, I had set it to change with buttons because somebody 
told me it was easier for the blind to use that way.  Not knowing the 
difference and this being my first iPhone, I did as instructed.  I too 
experienced problems with things being turned down or up and then not knowing 
to change it and wound up spending more time being frustrated then anything 
else.  I by then had forgotten about "change with buttons"  By accident around 
a year or so ago I came across it again and thought, change what?  Then I heard 
the voice over tip and turned it off.  No more problems with strange volume 
changes.  So you can turn down the master volume at night so you can hear your 
phone and not wake up the rest of the house!  I did find a way to fix that 
though.  I bought an iPhone for my wife!  Now she can't say anything cause she 
does it too!  Problem solved! 


  Regards,

   

  Alan

   

  Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

   

  Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

   

  Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
  There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
  the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  I often add files so check back regularly!

   

  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my website are still
  available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message ----- 

From: Kimmie 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:17 PM

Subject: RE: no voiceover

 

I got the first part of your message, but where can I find where it says 
change volume with button? I used to have mine on mute, but well I forgot to 
take it off, and missed some calls.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 7:12 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no voiceover

 

If you take the volume out of the rotor, you won'

RE: no voiceover

[Thom]

Are you doing a three finger double tap by mistake?
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kimmie
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 10:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: no voiceover



Wow! Thanks for the info.  I'll keep that.  I have a problem with some times
when I pick up my iphone, and somehow I've touched something, and next thing
it says speech off, well first up I tapped, slapped, swiped, slid, and
everything else you care to name, but it took ages for the speech to come
back on again, so I triple clicked and turned voice over on again, but is
there an easier way? I don't mind doing the triple click, but why is it so
easy to touch the screen, and speech goes off, without you 

Knowing what part of the screen that caused it to say speech off. 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 8:00 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no voiceover

 

To turn on or to turn off "change with buttons" on your iPhone, do the
following.

 

1 Open settings.

2Go to and open "Sounds"

3 Flick right with 1 finger until you get to the toggle, "Change with
buttons"  Again, this is a toggle.  Double tap it with 1 finger to toggle on
and off.  When it's off, the up/down buttons on the side of your iPhone only
control the master volume.  So, you can try it either way and live with it
awhile either way and see which one you like better.  When I first got my
iPhone over 2 years ago, I had set it to change with buttons because
somebody told me it was easier for the blind to use that way.  Not knowing
the difference and this being my first iPhone, I did as instructed.  I too
experienced problems with things being turned down or up and then not
knowing to change it and wound up spending more time being frustrated then
anything else.  I by then had forgotten about "change with buttons"  By
accident around a year or so ago I came across it again and thought, change
what?  Then I heard the voice over tip and turned it off.  No more problems
with strange volume changes.  So you can turn down the master volume at
night so you can hear your phone and not wake up the rest of the house!  I
did find a way to fix that though.  I bought an iPhone for my wife!  Now she
can't say anything cause she does it too!  Problem solved! 


Regards,

 

Alan

 

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 

Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  I often add files so check back regularly!

 

The albums in Technics  format formerly on my website are still
available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 

From: Kimmie <mailto:pegasu...@xtra.co.nz>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:17 PM

Subject: RE: no voiceover

 

I got the first part of your message, but where can I find where it says
change volume with button? I used to have mine on mute, but well I forgot to
take it off, and missed some calls.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 7:12 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no voiceover

 

If you take the volume out of the rotor, you won't have that to deal with.
I use to have issues with that and then I found in the settings, change
volume with buttons and disabled it.  Then all the up/down buttons on your
iPhone only control the master volume instead.  With change with buttons
turned on, you can get yourself into all kinds of trouble.  For example,
that clicking sound you hear.  When your moving your finger around and no
text is there and you then use the up or down volume controls on the side of
your iPhone, you'll adjust the sound of those clicks because they are what
has focus at the time.  So then you move on to something else and there you
are wondering why your iPhone no longer makes that clicking sound.
Sometimes, I don't want to hear that and I found that if I turn off the mute
switch, my iPhone quits making that clicking sound which is useful for when
I'm on the phone and it's saying press 3 for this and 4 for that and 5 to
maybe speak to a live person if we can find one.

 

HTH


Regards,

 

Alan

 

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 

Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.

RE: no voiceover

[Kimmie]

Wow! Thanks for the info.  I'll keep that.  I have a problem with some times
when I pick up my iphone, and somehow I've touched something, and next thing
it says speech off, well first up I tapped, slapped, swiped, slid, and
everything else you care to name, but it took ages for the speech to come
back on again, so I triple clicked and turned voice over on again, but is
there an easier way? I don't mind doing the triple click, but why is it so
easy to touch the screen, and speech goes off, without you 

Knowing what part of the screen that caused it to say speech off. 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 8:00 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no voiceover

 

To turn on or to turn off "change with buttons" on your iPhone, do the
following.

 

1 Open settings.

2Go to and open "Sounds"

3 Flick right with 1 finger until you get to the toggle, "Change with
buttons"  Again, this is a toggle.  Double tap it with 1 finger to toggle on
and off.  When it's off, the up/down buttons on the side of your iPhone only
control the master volume.  So, you can try it either way and live with it
awhile either way and see which one you like better.  When I first got my
iPhone over 2 years ago, I had set it to change with buttons because
somebody told me it was easier for the blind to use that way.  Not knowing
the difference and this being my first iPhone, I did as instructed.  I too
experienced problems with things being turned down or up and then not
knowing to change it and wound up spending more time being frustrated then
anything else.  I by then had forgotten about "change with buttons"  By
accident around a year or so ago I came across it again and thought, change
what?  Then I heard the voice over tip and turned it off.  No more problems
with strange volume changes.  So you can turn down the master volume at
night so you can hear your phone and not wake up the rest of the house!  I
did find a way to fix that though.  I bought an iPhone for my wife!  Now she
can't say anything cause she does it too!  Problem solved! 


Regards,

 

Alan

 

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 

Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  I often add files so check back regularly!

 

The albums in Technics  format formerly on my website are still
available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 

From: Kimmie <mailto:pegasu...@xtra.co.nz>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:17 PM

Subject: RE: no voiceover

 

I got the first part of your message, but where can I find where it says
change volume with button? I used to have mine on mute, but well I forgot to
take it off, and missed some calls.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 7:12 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no voiceover

 

If you take the volume out of the rotor, you won't have that to deal with.
I use to have issues with that and then I found in the settings, change
volume with buttons and disabled it.  Then all the up/down buttons on your
iPhone only control the master volume instead.  With change with buttons
turned on, you can get yourself into all kinds of trouble.  For example,
that clicking sound you hear.  When your moving your finger around and no
text is there and you then use the up or down volume controls on the side of
your iPhone, you'll adjust the sound of those clicks because they are what
has focus at the time.  So then you move on to something else and there you
are wondering why your iPhone no longer makes that clicking sound.
Sometimes, I don't want to hear that and I found that if I turn off the mute
switch, my iPhone quits making that clicking sound which is useful for when
I'm on the phone and it's saying press 3 for this and 4 for that and 5 to
maybe speak to a live person if we can find one.

 

HTH


Regards,

 

Alan

 

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 

Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  I often add files so check back regularly!

 

The albums in Technics  format formerly on my website are still
available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 

From: Lisa belville <mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com>  

To: vipho

Re: no voiceover

[Alan Paganelli]

To turn on or to turn off "change with buttons" on your iPhone, do the 
following.

1 Open settings.
2Go to and open "Sounds"
3 Flick right with 1 finger until you get to the toggle, "Change with buttons"  
Again, this is a toggle.  Double tap it with 1 finger to toggle on and off.  
When it's off, the up/down buttons on the side of your iPhone only control the 
master volume.  So, you can try it either way and live with it awhile either 
way and see which one you like better.  When I first got my iPhone over 2 years 
ago, I had set it to change with buttons because somebody told me it was easier 
for the blind to use that way.  Not knowing the difference and this being my 
first iPhone, I did as instructed.  I too experienced problems with things 
being turned down or up and then not knowing to change it and wound up spending 
more time being frustrated then anything else.  I by then had forgotten about 
"change with buttons"  By accident around a year or so ago I came across it 
again and thought, change what?  Then I heard the voice over tip and turned it 
off.  No more problems with strange volume changes.  So you can turn down the 
master volume at night so you can hear your phone and not wake up the rest of 
the house!  I did find a way to fix that though.  I bought an iPhone for my 
wife!  Now she can't say anything cause she does it too!  Problem solved! 

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  Move 
out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  I often add files so check back regularly!

The albums in Technics  format formerly on my website are still
available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kimmie 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:17 PM
  Subject: RE: no voiceover


  I got the first part of your message, but where can I find where it says 
change volume with button? I used to have mine on mute, but well I forgot to 
take it off, and missed some calls.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Paganelli
  Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 7:12 a.m.
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: no voiceover

   

  If you take the volume out of the rotor, you won't have that to deal with.  I 
use to have issues with that and then I found in the settings, change volume 
with buttons and disabled it.  Then all the up/down buttons on your iPhone only 
control the master volume instead.  With change with buttons turned on, you can 
get yourself into all kinds of trouble.  For example, that clicking sound you 
hear.  When your moving your finger around and no text is there and you then 
use the up or down volume controls on the side of your iPhone, you'll adjust 
the sound of those clicks because they are what has focus at the time.  So then 
you move on to something else and there you are wondering why your iPhone no 
longer makes that clicking sound.  Sometimes, I don't want to hear that and I 
found that if I turn off the mute switch, my iPhone quits making that clicking 
sound which is useful for when I'm on the phone and it's saying press 3 for 
this and 4 for that and 5 to maybe speak to a live person if we can find one.

   

  HTH


  Regards,

   

  Alan

   

  Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

   

  Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

   

  Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
  There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
  the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  I often add files so check back regularly!

   

  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my website are still
  available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 

From: Lisa belville 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 11:07 PM

Subject: Re: no voiceover

 

Sieghard,

This is why I try really hard to remember to turn the volume rotor to 
something else after I've used it to adjust the volume.  Anything, even a 
change from English to British English is better than no noise at all.  LOL

Lisa

I may have had an encounter with the ugly stick, but the whole tree is 
after 
you!
Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:00 AM
Subject: RE: no voiceover


> Hi Rebecca,
>
> It sounds as if your volume dropped to 0 which can happen sort of 
  

RE: no voiceover

[Kimmie]

Thanks.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jennie Facer
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 7:27 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: no voiceover

 

It is in settings then sounds.

 

Jenn \

 

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kimmie
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 1:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: no voiceover

 

I got the first part of your message, but where can I find where it says
change volume with button? I used to have mine on mute, but well I forgot to
take it off, and missed some calls.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 7:12 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no voiceover

 

If you take the volume out of the rotor, you won't have that to deal with.
I use to have issues with that and then I found in the settings, change
volume with buttons and disabled it.  Then all the up/down buttons on your
iPhone only control the master volume instead.  With change with buttons
turned on, you can get yourself into all kinds of trouble.  For example,
that clicking sound you hear.  When your moving your finger around and no
text is there and you then use the up or down volume controls on the side of
your iPhone, you'll adjust the sound of those clicks because they are what
has focus at the time.  So then you move on to something else and there you
are wondering why your iPhone no longer makes that clicking sound.
Sometimes, I don't want to hear that and I found that if I turn off the mute
switch, my iPhone quits making that clicking sound which is useful for when
I'm on the phone and it's saying press 3 for this and 4 for that and 5 to
maybe speak to a live person if we can find one.

 

HTH


Regards,

 

Alan

 

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 

Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  I often add files so check back regularly!

 

The albums in Technics  format formerly on my website are still
available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 

From: Lisa belville <mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 11:07 PM

Subject: Re: no voiceover

 

Sieghard,

This is why I try really hard to remember to turn the volume rotor to 
something else after I've used it to adjust the volume.  Anything, even a 
change from English to British English is better than no noise at all.  LOL

Lisa

I may have had an encounter with the ugly stick, but the whole tree is after

you!
Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:00 AM
Subject: RE: no voiceover


> Hi Rebecca,
>
> It sounds as if your volume dropped to 0 which can happen sort of 
> randomly.
> Have you tried to plug in a headset to see if you have any sound on the
> headset? If Voiceover is completely quiet, how do you know your phone is
> still on? I guess what I am trying to say is are you sure your battery
> didn't die? One way to check that is to flick the mute switch and see if 
> the
> phone vibrates when you turn mute on.
>
> OK, so if you are sure the battery is not dead and if you hear Voiceover
> with a headset that means your external speaker volume is 0.
> In order to get it back up you have to make sure Voiceover is speaking
> before repeatedly pressing the volume up button. Here is how I do this:
> 1. I make sure the phone is unlocked with the headset plugged in.
> 2. I unplug the headset.
> 3. I do a 2-finger swipe up on the screen. This will make Voiceover start 
> to
> read the apps on your home screen starting at the very top left which 
> means
> Voiceover will speak for a while until it reads all apps.
> 4. Now repeatedly press the volume up button and see if Voiceover volume
> comes back.
>
> Oh boy, if that works I totally blew it, I should have charged you 10 
> bucks
> for that, it would have been a real bargain considering that's basically
> half of what Apple would have charged *smile*
>
>
> Good luck,
> Sieghard
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Rebecca Ilniski
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: no voiceover
>
> Hi all.  This evening I was playing dice world and all of a sudden my
> phone jus

RE: no voiceover

[Jennie Facer]

It is in settings then sounds.

 

Jenn \

 

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kimmie
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 1:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: no voiceover

 

I got the first part of your message, but where can I find where it says
change volume with button? I used to have mine on mute, but well I forgot to
take it off, and missed some calls.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 7:12 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no voiceover

 

If you take the volume out of the rotor, you won't have that to deal with.
I use to have issues with that and then I found in the settings, change
volume with buttons and disabled it.  Then all the up/down buttons on your
iPhone only control the master volume instead.  With change with buttons
turned on, you can get yourself into all kinds of trouble.  For example,
that clicking sound you hear.  When your moving your finger around and no
text is there and you then use the up or down volume controls on the side of
your iPhone, you'll adjust the sound of those clicks because they are what
has focus at the time.  So then you move on to something else and there you
are wondering why your iPhone no longer makes that clicking sound.
Sometimes, I don't want to hear that and I found that if I turn off the mute
switch, my iPhone quits making that clicking sound which is useful for when
I'm on the phone and it's saying press 3 for this and 4 for that and 5 to
maybe speak to a live person if we can find one.

 

HTH


Regards,

 

Alan

 

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 

Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  I often add files so check back regularly!

 

The albums in Technics  format formerly on my website are still
available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 

From: Lisa belville <mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 11:07 PM

Subject: Re: no voiceover

 

Sieghard,

This is why I try really hard to remember to turn the volume rotor to 
something else after I've used it to adjust the volume.  Anything, even a 
change from English to British English is better than no noise at all.  LOL

Lisa

I may have had an encounter with the ugly stick, but the whole tree is after

you!
Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:00 AM
Subject: RE: no voiceover


> Hi Rebecca,
>
> It sounds as if your volume dropped to 0 which can happen sort of 
> randomly.
> Have you tried to plug in a headset to see if you have any sound on the
> headset? If Voiceover is completely quiet, how do you know your phone is
> still on? I guess what I am trying to say is are you sure your battery
> didn't die? One way to check that is to flick the mute switch and see if 
> the
> phone vibrates when you turn mute on.
>
> OK, so if you are sure the battery is not dead and if you hear Voiceover
> with a headset that means your external speaker volume is 0.
> In order to get it back up you have to make sure Voiceover is speaking
> before repeatedly pressing the volume up button. Here is how I do this:
> 1. I make sure the phone is unlocked with the headset plugged in.
> 2. I unplug the headset.
> 3. I do a 2-finger swipe up on the screen. This will make Voiceover start 
> to
> read the apps on your home screen starting at the very top left which 
> means
> Voiceover will speak for a while until it reads all apps.
> 4. Now repeatedly press the volume up button and see if Voiceover volume
> comes back.
>
> Oh boy, if that works I totally blew it, I should have charged you 10 
> bucks
> for that, it would have been a real bargain considering that's basically
> half of what Apple would have charged *smile*
>
>
> Good luck,
> Sieghard
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Rebecca Ilniski
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: no voiceover
>
> Hi all.  This evening I was playing dice world and all of a sudden my
> phone just stopped talking.  Tripple click home didn't do the trick to
> get it talking again.  I tried setting it up in itunes and even though
> voice over is checked still no speech.  The three fin

RE: no voiceover

[Kimmie]

I got the first part of your message, but where can I find where it says
change volume with button? I used to have mine on mute, but well I forgot to
take it off, and missed some calls.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013 7:12 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no voiceover

 

If you take the volume out of the rotor, you won't have that to deal with.
I use to have issues with that and then I found in the settings, change
volume with buttons and disabled it.  Then all the up/down buttons on your
iPhone only control the master volume instead.  With change with buttons
turned on, you can get yourself into all kinds of trouble.  For example,
that clicking sound you hear.  When your moving your finger around and no
text is there and you then use the up or down volume controls on the side of
your iPhone, you'll adjust the sound of those clicks because they are what
has focus at the time.  So then you move on to something else and there you
are wondering why your iPhone no longer makes that clicking sound.
Sometimes, I don't want to hear that and I found that if I turn off the mute
switch, my iPhone quits making that clicking sound which is useful for when
I'm on the phone and it's saying press 3 for this and 4 for that and 5 to
maybe speak to a live person if we can find one.

 

HTH


Regards,

 

Alan

 

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 

Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  I often add files so check back regularly!

 

The albums in Technics  format formerly on my website are still
available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 

From: Lisa belville <mailto:missktlab1...@frontier.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 11:07 PM

Subject: Re: no voiceover

 

Sieghard,

This is why I try really hard to remember to turn the volume rotor to 
something else after I've used it to adjust the volume.  Anything, even a 
change from English to British English is better than no noise at all.  LOL

Lisa

I may have had an encounter with the ugly stick, but the whole tree is after

you!
Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:00 AM
Subject: RE: no voiceover


> Hi Rebecca,
>
> It sounds as if your volume dropped to 0 which can happen sort of 
> randomly.
> Have you tried to plug in a headset to see if you have any sound on the
> headset? If Voiceover is completely quiet, how do you know your phone is
> still on? I guess what I am trying to say is are you sure your battery
> didn't die? One way to check that is to flick the mute switch and see if 
> the
> phone vibrates when you turn mute on.
>
> OK, so if you are sure the battery is not dead and if you hear Voiceover
> with a headset that means your external speaker volume is 0.
> In order to get it back up you have to make sure Voiceover is speaking
> before repeatedly pressing the volume up button. Here is how I do this:
> 1. I make sure the phone is unlocked with the headset plugged in.
> 2. I unplug the headset.
> 3. I do a 2-finger swipe up on the screen. This will make Voiceover start 
> to
> read the apps on your home screen starting at the very top left which 
> means
> Voiceover will speak for a while until it reads all apps.
> 4. Now repeatedly press the volume up button and see if Voiceover volume
> comes back.
>
> Oh boy, if that works I totally blew it, I should have charged you 10 
> bucks
> for that, it would have been a real bargain considering that's basically
> half of what Apple would have charged *smile*
>
>
> Good luck,
> Sieghard
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Rebecca Ilniski
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: no voiceover
>
> Hi all.  This evening I was playing dice world and all of a sudden my
> phone just stopped talking.  Tripple click home didn't do the trick to
> get it talking again.  I tried setting it up in itunes and even though
> voice over is checked still no speech.  The three finger double tap
> didn't do anything either.  Anyone ever have this happen before?  if so
> what did you do to fix it?  I called apple accessibility but since my
> ninety days are up each call will cost 19 dollars.
>
> -- 
> Rebecca and Zeb
> email: rilni...@gmail.com
> fac

Re: no voiceover

[Alan Paganelli]

If you take the volume out of the rotor, you won't have that to deal with.  I 
use to have issues with that and then I found in the settings, change volume 
with buttons and disabled it.  Then all the up/down buttons on your iPhone only 
control the master volume instead.  With change with buttons turned on, you can 
get yourself into all kinds of trouble.  For example, that clicking sound you 
hear.  When your moving your finger around and no text is there and you then 
use the up or down volume controls on the side of your iPhone, you'll adjust 
the sound of those clicks because they are what has focus at the time.  So then 
you move on to something else and there you are wondering why your iPhone no 
longer makes that clicking sound.  Sometimes, I don't want to hear that and I 
found that if I turn off the mute switch, my iPhone quits making that clicking 
sound which is useful for when I'm on the phone and it's saying press 3 for 
this and 4 for that and 5 to maybe speak to a live person if we can find one.

HTH

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  Move 
out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  I often add files so check back regularly!

The albums in Technics  format formerly on my website are still
available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lisa belville 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 11:07 PM
  Subject: Re: no voiceover


  Sieghard,

  This is why I try really hard to remember to turn the volume rotor to 
  something else after I've used it to adjust the volume.  Anything, even a 
  change from English to British English is better than no noise at all.  LOL

  Lisa

  I may have had an encounter with the ugly stick, but the whole tree is after 
  you!
  Lisa Belville
  missktlab1...@frontier.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
  To: 
  Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:00 AM
  Subject: RE: no voiceover


  > Hi Rebecca,
  >
  > It sounds as if your volume dropped to 0 which can happen sort of 
  > randomly.
  > Have you tried to plug in a headset to see if you have any sound on the
  > headset? If Voiceover is completely quiet, how do you know your phone is
  > still on? I guess what I am trying to say is are you sure your battery
  > didn't die? One way to check that is to flick the mute switch and see if 
  > the
  > phone vibrates when you turn mute on.
  >
  > OK, so if you are sure the battery is not dead and if you hear Voiceover
  > with a headset that means your external speaker volume is 0.
  > In order to get it back up you have to make sure Voiceover is speaking
  > before repeatedly pressing the volume up button. Here is how I do this:
  > 1. I make sure the phone is unlocked with the headset plugged in.
  > 2. I unplug the headset.
  > 3. I do a 2-finger swipe up on the screen. This will make Voiceover start 
  > to
  > read the apps on your home screen starting at the very top left which 
  > means
  > Voiceover will speak for a while until it reads all apps.
  > 4. Now repeatedly press the volume up button and see if Voiceover volume
  > comes back.
  >
  > Oh boy, if that works I totally blew it, I should have charged you 10 
  > bucks
  > for that, it would have been a real bargain considering that's basically
  > half of what Apple would have charged *smile*
  >
  >
  > Good luck,
  > Sieghard
  >
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
  > Of Rebecca Ilniski
  > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:13 PM
  > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  > Subject: no voiceover
  >
  > Hi all.  This evening I was playing dice world and all of a sudden my
  > phone just stopped talking.  Tripple click home didn't do the trick to
  > get it talking again.  I tried setting it up in itunes and even though
  > voice over is checked still no speech.  The three finger double tap
  > didn't do anything either.  Anyone ever have this happen before?  if so
  > what did you do to fix it?  I called apple accessibility but since my
  > ninety days are up each call will cost 19 dollars.
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RE: no voiceover

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi Rebecca,

Did you check your mute switch? Push it back towards the back of the phone.
If it is at the back, you simply muted your phone.  Pull the switch towards
the screen and your sound will come back.  When you push your switch back,
if you get a quick vibration, it confirms that your phone is on and it
probably becomes a volume problem.  Maybe your volume is turned down
completely.  To further check that, plug-in your earbuds.  If your volume is
very low you may hear a faint voice.  Raise your volume and your problem
could be gone.

HTH

Ron & Danvers


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Getting back up is LIVING...

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Subject: no voiceover

Hi all.  This evening I was playing dice world and all of a sudden my phone
just stopped talking.  Tripple click home didn't do the trick to get it
talking again.  I tried setting it up in itunes and even though voice over
is checked still no speech.  The three finger double tap didn't do anything
either.  Anyone ever have this happen before?  if so what did you do to fix
it?  I called apple accessibility but since my ninety days are up each call
will cost 19 dollars.

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Re: no voiceover

[Lisa belville]

Hi, Rebecca.  I had something similar happen to me a few months ago.  I 
wasn't playing a game, I dropped my Bluetooth keyboard and somehow muted 
speech.


I managed to correct the problem.  Below is what happened and how I fixed 
it.  At the very least, you can use some of the steps I did to troubleshoot 
your no speech issue.


Here's the Email, hth, Lisa

Okay, my issue is resolved.

This involved some very frantic and frustrating trouble shooting, but here's
what happened in case it happens to anyone else.

As far as I can tell, The Screen got locked and speech somehow got muted
when I tried picking up and then dropping the keyboard.

I deduced this by the fact that I had no sounds at all except for the  SIRI
tones Plus, I tried the two finger triple tap or triple tap home and neither
restored speech.

Then, I pressed the power button once and heard the familiar screen unlock
sound.  I tried unlocking the screen at this point, but this was
impossible because I couldn't double tap on the right area of the screen.  I
was tapping to the left and just above the home button, so I was in the
ballpark, but you know. . .

Then I tried first summoning SIRI and calling myself.  the call went
through, just as it would when the screen was locked with VO running.  I
couldn't end the call with the 2 finger double tap no matter where on the
screen I tapped.  I had to wait for the phone to end the call.

Then I decided to call my voice mail again unlock the phone while the call
was in progress.  I used SIRI to make the call, then I used the space key on
the keyboard to unlock the screen and got to the home screen by pressing the
home button twice.  Then I unmuted speech with the three finger double tap.

Like I said, the simultaneous VO muting and screen locking occurred using a
slightly dropped Amazon Basics Bluetooth Keyboard and an iPhone 5.  I have
no clue what combination of keys needed to be pressed to make this happen,
I'm just glad I got it resolved.

Lisa

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you!

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- Original Message - 
From: "Rebecca Ilniski" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 11:12 PM
Subject: no voiceover


Hi all.  This evening I was playing dice world and all of a sudden my 
phone just stopped talking.  Tripple click home didn't do the trick to get 
it talking again.  I tried setting it up in itunes and even though voice 
over is checked still no speech.  The three finger double tap didn't do 
anything either.  Anyone ever have this happen before?  if so what did you 
do to fix it?  I called apple accessibility but since my ninety days are 
up each call will cost 19 dollars.


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Re: no voiceover

[Lisa belville]

Sieghard,

This is why I try really hard to remember to turn the volume rotor to 
something else after I've used it to adjust the volume.  Anything, even a 
change from English to British English is better than no noise at all.  LOL


Lisa

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you!

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- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 12:00 AM
Subject: RE: no voiceover



Hi Rebecca,

It sounds as if your volume dropped to 0 which can happen sort of 
randomly.

Have you tried to plug in a headset to see if you have any sound on the
headset? If Voiceover is completely quiet, how do you know your phone is
still on? I guess what I am trying to say is are you sure your battery
didn't die? One way to check that is to flick the mute switch and see if 
the

phone vibrates when you turn mute on.

OK, so if you are sure the battery is not dead and if you hear Voiceover
with a headset that means your external speaker volume is 0.
In order to get it back up you have to make sure Voiceover is speaking
before repeatedly pressing the volume up button. Here is how I do this:
1. I make sure the phone is unlocked with the headset plugged in.
2. I unplug the headset.
3. I do a 2-finger swipe up on the screen. This will make Voiceover start 
to
read the apps on your home screen starting at the very top left which 
means

Voiceover will speak for a while until it reads all apps.
4. Now repeatedly press the volume up button and see if Voiceover volume
comes back.

Oh boy, if that works I totally blew it, I should have charged you 10 
bucks

for that, it would have been a real bargain considering that's basically
half of what Apple would have charged *smile*


Good luck,
Sieghard


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: no voiceover

Hi all.  This evening I was playing dice world and all of a sudden my
phone just stopped talking.  Tripple click home didn't do the trick to
get it talking again.  I tried setting it up in itunes and even though
voice over is checked still no speech.  The three finger double tap
didn't do anything either.  Anyone ever have this happen before?  if so
what did you do to fix it?  I called apple accessibility but since my
ninety days are up each call will cost 19 dollars.

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RE: no voiceover

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Rebecca,

It sounds as if your volume dropped to 0 which can happen sort of randomly.
Have you tried to plug in a headset to see if you have any sound on the
headset? If Voiceover is completely quiet, how do you know your phone is
still on? I guess what I am trying to say is are you sure your battery
didn't die? One way to check that is to flick the mute switch and see if the
phone vibrates when you turn mute on.

OK, so if you are sure the battery is not dead and if you hear Voiceover
with a headset that means your external speaker volume is 0.
In order to get it back up you have to make sure Voiceover is speaking
before repeatedly pressing the volume up button. Here is how I do this:
1. I make sure the phone is unlocked with the headset plugged in.
2. I unplug the headset.
3. I do a 2-finger swipe up on the screen. This will make Voiceover start to
read the apps on your home screen starting at the very top left which means
Voiceover will speak for a while until it reads all apps.
4. Now repeatedly press the volume up button and see if Voiceover volume
comes back.

Oh boy, if that works I totally blew it, I should have charged you 10 bucks
for that, it would have been a real bargain considering that's basically
half of what Apple would have charged *smile*


Good luck,
Sieghard


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Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: no voiceover

Hi all.  This evening I was playing dice world and all of a sudden my 
phone just stopped talking.  Tripple click home didn't do the trick to 
get it talking again.  I tried setting it up in itunes and even though 
voice over is checked still no speech.  The three finger double tap 
didn't do anything either.  Anyone ever have this happen before?  if so 
what did you do to fix it?  I called apple accessibility but since my 
ninety days are up each call will cost 19 dollars.

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RE: no voiceover

[Kimmie]

I used to have that problem a lot, but the triple home click won't work
unless you have set triple click to voice over.  You when you get it
started, you need to go into accessibility I think, and then go into triple
click, and then select voice over.

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Of Rebecca Ilniski
Sent: Friday, 2 August 2013 4:13 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: no voiceover

Hi all.  This evening I was playing dice world and all of a sudden my phone
just stopped talking.  Tripple click home didn't do the trick to get it
talking again.  I tried setting it up in itunes and even though voice over
is checked still no speech.  The three finger double tap didn't do anything
either.  Anyone ever have this happen before?  if so what did you do to fix
it?  I called apple accessibility but since my ninety days are up each call
will cost 19 dollars.

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Re: no voiceover

[Stacy Fuehrer]

Hey Rebecca.  Sure hope you get your speech back.  I know that sometimes, when 
I am playing dice world, and after I have a turn, my phone will just freeze for 
a bit, and within maybe 15 or so seconds, it'll return to dice world with voice 
over speaking again.  
Best, 
Stacy 

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On Aug 1, 2013, at 11:12 PM, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:

> Hi all.  This evening I was playing dice world and all of a sudden my phone 
> just stopped talking.  Tripple click home didn't do the trick to get it 
> talking again.  I tried setting it up in itunes and even though voice over is 
> checked still no speech.  The three finger double tap didn't do anything 
> either.  Anyone ever have this happen before?  if so what did you do to fix 
> it?  I called apple accessibility but since my ninety days are up each call 
> will cost 19 dollars.
> 
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RE: no voiceover

[Liz and Sammie]

Rebecca.  You may have already tried this, but try shutting your phone off,
give it a minute or two, and then reboot the phone.  

Liz Ulrich and Leader dog Sammie

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