RE: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

2019-01-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You can't get around a passcode on an iPhone.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 9:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your 
iPhone Without a Touchscreen

You could also add a pass code to your phone.  That way somebody either has to 
know your pass code or be smart enough to figure out how to get around it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2019, at 11:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
You are in a way, of course somebody has to first have your iPhone and if it is 
locked it needs to be unlocked before they can go look through your contacts. I 
guess you could always label your bank's telephone banking number Uncle Bob in 
which case it is even less likely somebody would open Uncle Bob's contact entry 
to see what numbers it may contain.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil 
M.
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your 
iPhone Without a Touchscreen

Won’t you be exposing your sensitive information to a vulnerable situation by 
doing this?
Thanks!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 8:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your iPhone 
Without a Touchscreen

I was going to stop adding to this thread, but I have to say, it isn’t that 
difficult.
Let me try to explain it differently.
When you add a new contact, or add a phone number to a contact, you can build 
in pauses for numbers like when calling the bank to check your balance, or 
calling a conference line, etc.  A comma puts in a short pause and sometimes 
you may need two or three commas to pause long enough before entering the code 
or next set of numbers.  The layout on the numberpad is as follows.
Line one, 1, 2, 3.
Line 2, 4, 5, 6.
Line 3, 7, 8, 9.
Line 4, Star, 0 Pound,
Line 5 Shift, plus, delete.
That last line is a bit lower on the screen.

When you activate the shift key, the numberpad will be this:
Line 1, 1 dimmed, 2, dimmed, 3 dimmed.
Line 2, comma, 5 dimmed, semicolon.
Line 3, Star, 8 dimmed, number sign.
Line 4, shift, plus, delete.

You only have 4 lines of symbols.  The dimmed ones simply mean they are not 
available once you activate the shift.

So, if I am calling my office to get voice mail, I would call something like:
541-888- then wait for the recording to say to enter my extension, so I 
would enter 971-123,4567, then a shorter pause when it asks me to enter my 4 
digit pin, 1,2,3,4 followed by the pound sign.

The way that would look when I am finished is:
541--,,,971-123-4567,1234#

If you do not have punctuation turned on, it is:
541-888- comma comma comma 971-123-4567 comma 1234 number sign.

It looks wordy and is when trying to explain it, but once you have experimented 
a few times, I hope you find it useful,
Richard




“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given.
also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for certain digits from 
a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for every call.

Simon


- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt<mailto:an...@comproom.co.uk>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)



On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann 
mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:

There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few commas 
then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone system 
answers.
For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, put 
in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone number:
Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You need 
to do this for each comma.

Sentfrom my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene 
mailto:arlenes71.

Re: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

2019-01-04 Thread Ryan Mann
You could also add a pass code to your phone.  That way somebody either has to 
know your pass code or be smart enough to figure out how to get around it.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2019, at 11:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> You are in a way, of course somebody has to first have your iPhone and if it 
> is locked it needs to be unlocked before they can go look through your 
> contacts. I guess you could always label your bank's telephone banking number 
> Uncle Bob in which case it is even less likely somebody would open Uncle 
> Bob's contact entry to see what numbers it may contain.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil 
> M.
> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 8:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your 
> iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>  
> Won’t you be exposing your sensitive information to a vulnerable situation by 
> doing this?
> Thanks!
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 8:04 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your iPhone 
> Without a Touchscreen
>  
> I was going to stop adding to this thread, but I have to say, it isn’t that 
> difficult.
> Let me try to explain it differently.
> When you add a new contact, or add a phone number to a contact, you can build 
> in pauses for numbers like when calling the bank to check your balance, or 
> calling a conference line, etc.  A comma puts in a short pause and sometimes 
> you may need two or three commas to pause long enough before entering the 
> code or next set of numbers.  The layout on the numberpad is as follows.
> Line one, 1, 2, 3.
> Line 2, 4, 5, 6.
> Line 3, 7, 8, 9.
> Line 4, Star, 0 Pound,
> Line 5 Shift, plus, delete.
> That last line is a bit lower on the screen.
>  
> When you activate the shift key, the numberpad will be this:
> Line 1, 1 dimmed, 2, dimmed, 3 dimmed. 
> Line 2, comma, 5 dimmed, semicolon.
> Line 3, Star, 8 dimmed, number sign.
> Line 4, shift, plus, delete.
>  
> You only have 4 lines of symbols.  The dimmed ones simply mean they are not 
> available once you activate the shift.
>  
> So, if I am calling my office to get voice mail, I would call something like:
> 541-888- then wait for the recording to say to enter my extension, so I 
> would enter 971-123,4567, then a shorter pause when it asks me to enter my 4 
> digit pin, 1,2,3,4 followed by the pound sign.
>  
> The way that would look when I am finished is:
> 541--,,,971-123-4567,1234#
>  
> If you do not have punctuation turned on, it is:
> 541-888- comma comma comma 971-123-4567 comma 1234 number sign.
>  
> It looks wordy and is when trying to explain it, but once you have 
> experimented a few times, I hope you find it useful,
> Richard
>  
>  
>  
>  
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> goshawk on horseback
> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 7:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>  
> same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given.
> also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for certain digits 
> from a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for every call.
>  
> Simon
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Angie Nutt
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>  
> That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)
>  
>  
>  
> 
> On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann  wrote:
>  
> There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
> automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
> contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few 
> commas then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone 
> system answers.
> For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, put 
> in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone number:
> Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
> You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You need 
> to do this for each comma.
>  
> Sentfrom my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene  wrote:
> 
> When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we 
> need to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the button

RE: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

2019-01-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You are in a way, of course somebody has to first have your iPhone and if it is 
locked it needs to be unlocked before they can go look through your contacts. I 
guess you could always label your bank's telephone banking number Uncle Bob in 
which case it is even less likely somebody would open Uncle Bob's contact entry 
to see what numbers it may contain.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your 
iPhone Without a Touchscreen

Won’t you be exposing your sensitive information to a vulnerable situation by 
doing this?
Thanks!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 8:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your iPhone 
Without a Touchscreen

I was going to stop adding to this thread, but I have to say, it isn’t that 
difficult.
Let me try to explain it differently.
When you add a new contact, or add a phone number to a contact, you can build 
in pauses for numbers like when calling the bank to check your balance, or 
calling a conference line, etc.  A comma puts in a short pause and sometimes 
you may need two or three commas to pause long enough before entering the code 
or next set of numbers.  The layout on the numberpad is as follows.
Line one, 1, 2, 3.
Line 2, 4, 5, 6.
Line 3, 7, 8, 9.
Line 4, Star, 0 Pound,
Line 5 Shift, plus, delete.
That last line is a bit lower on the screen.

When you activate the shift key, the numberpad will be this:
Line 1, 1 dimmed, 2, dimmed, 3 dimmed.
Line 2, comma, 5 dimmed, semicolon.
Line 3, Star, 8 dimmed, number sign.
Line 4, shift, plus, delete.

You only have 4 lines of symbols.  The dimmed ones simply mean they are not 
available once you activate the shift.

So, if I am calling my office to get voice mail, I would call something like:
541-888- then wait for the recording to say to enter my extension, so I 
would enter 971-123,4567, then a shorter pause when it asks me to enter my 4 
digit pin, 1,2,3,4 followed by the pound sign.

The way that would look when I am finished is:
541--,,,971-123-4567,1234#

If you do not have punctuation turned on, it is:
541-888- comma comma comma 971-123-4567 comma 1234 number sign.

It looks wordy and is when trying to explain it, but once you have experimented 
a few times, I hope you find it useful,
Richard




“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of goshawk 
on horseback
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given.
also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for certain digits from 
a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for every call.

Simon


- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt<mailto:an...@comproom.co.uk>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)



On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann 
mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:

There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few commas 
then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone system 
answers.
For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, put 
in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone number:
Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You need 
to do this for each comma.

Sentfrom my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene 
mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we need 
to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
- Original Message -
From: Angie Nutt<mailto:an...@comproom.co.uk>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably

RE: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

2019-01-04 Thread Fazil M.
Won’t you be exposing your sensitive information to a vulnerable situation by 
doing this?

Thanks!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 8:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: programming extra numbers into a contact, was RE: Using Your iPhone 
Without a Touchscreen

 

I was going to stop adding to this thread, but I have to say, it isn’t that 
difficult.

Let me try to explain it differently.

When you add a new contact, or add a phone number to a contact, you can build 
in pauses for numbers like when calling the bank to check your balance, or 
calling a conference line, etc.  A comma puts in a short pause and sometimes 
you may need two or three commas to pause long enough before entering the code 
or next set of numbers.  The layout on the numberpad is as follows.

Line one, 1, 2, 3.

Line 2, 4, 5, 6.

Line 3, 7, 8, 9.

Line 4, Star, 0 Pound,

Line 5 Shift, plus, delete.

That last line is a bit lower on the screen.

 

When you activate the shift key, the numberpad will be this:

Line 1, 1 dimmed, 2, dimmed, 3 dimmed.  

Line 2, comma, 5 dimmed, semicolon.

Line 3, Star, 8 dimmed, number sign.

Line 4, shift, plus, delete.

 

You only have 4 lines of symbols.  The dimmed ones simply mean they are not 
available once you activate the shift.

 

So, if I am calling my office to get voice mail, I would call something like:

541-888- then wait for the recording to say to enter my extension, so I 
would enter 971-123,4567, then a shorter pause when it asks me to enter my 4 
digit pin, 1,2,3,4 followed by the pound sign.

 

The way that would look when I am finished is:

541--,,,971-123-4567,1234#

 

If you do not have punctuation turned on, it is:

541-888- comma comma comma 971-123-4567 comma 1234 number sign.

 

It looks wordy and is when trying to explain it, but once you have experimented 
a few times, I hope you find it useful,

Richard

 

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of goshawk 
on horseback
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 

same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given. 

also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for certain digits from 
a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for every call. 

 

Simon 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Angie Nutt <mailto:an...@comproom.co.uk>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM

Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 

That sounds like too much trouble to me. :) 

 

 

 

On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann  wrote:

 

There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it 
automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the 
contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few commas 
then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s phone system 
answers. 

For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound, put 
in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone number:

Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#

You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You need 
to do this for each comma.

 

Sentfrom my iPhone 


On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene  wrote:

When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we need 
to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons. With 
inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for it 
to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.

- Original Message -

From: Angie Nutt <mailto:an...@comproom.co.uk> 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM

Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen

 

In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t like 
the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I 
personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why buttons 
are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it quicker but I 
don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of course referring to 
numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a hardware keyboard. I also 
know quite a few who really loved their original RIVo and those who have the 
RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I just couldn’t get my head round it; 
it just isn’t for me. 

 

 

 

On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 

I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for 
the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money 
they spend to take away the strength o