Re: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

2015-10-03 Thread simon wong 
I did it through the phone I find doing it through the computer sometimes slow, 
I don't have much patience.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 3, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Neal Ewers  wrote:
> 
> Hi all. Just for your information if this happens to you. I just updated my 
> Wife’s iPhone 5C. It took 3 hours to download the file on the same WiFi 
> connection that took me 5 minutes the other day. I almost gave up and assumed 
> that there was nothing happening until my wife looked at the screen and read 
> what JAWS would not read. It was downloading and it said it would take 6 
> hours. Well, the times on those things are ridiculous, but it did keep slowly 
> updating the number of MB downloaded. Unfortunately, I could not read this 
> with JAWS in Windows 7. So, if this happens to you, give it some time. It may 
> still be downloading.
>  
> Neal
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Re: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

2015-10-03 Thread Colin McDonald 
I would definitely just do it from the phone and not the pc.
When you add more processing into the chain things will always slow down.
I find doing anything with the IPhone via the pc to be tedious at best and 
frustrating all the time.

Regards
Colin
From: Neal Ewers 
Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

Hi all. Just for your information if this happens to you. I just updated my 
Wife’s iPhone 5C. It took 3 hours to download the file on the same WiFi 
connection that took me 5 minutes the other day. I almost gave up and assumed 
that there was nothing happening until my wife looked at the screen and read 
what JAWS would not read. It was downloading and it said it would take 6 hours. 
Well, the times on those things are ridiculous, but it did keep slowly updating 
the number of MB downloaded. Unfortunately, I could not read this with JAWS in 
Windows 7. So, if this happens to you, give it some time. It may still be 
downloading.

 

Neal

 

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Re: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

2015-10-03 Thread Christopher Chaltain 
I'd definitely do it through iTunes and the PC myself. You get a lot 
more feedback on how the upgrade is going, and you  don't need the space 
and processing power on the iPhone to do the uncompressing. When you add 
more processing, things actually speed up because you can share the 
processing tasks. This is why you don't have single core processors any 
more on your laptops, desktops, tablets or even your iPhone.


On 10/03/2015 09:23 PM, Colin McDonald wrote:

I would definitely just do it from the phone and not the pc.
When you add more processing into the chain things will always slow down.
I find doing anything with the IPhone via the pc to be tedious at best
and frustrating all the time.
Regards
Colin
*From:* Neal Ewers 
*Sent:* Saturday, October 3, 2015 6:45 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

Hi all. Just for your information if this happens to you. I just updated
my Wife’s iPhone 5C. It took 3 hours to download the file on the same
WiFi connection that took me 5 minutes the other day. I almost gave up
and assumed that there was nothing happening until my wife looked at the
screen and read what JAWS would not read. It was downloading and it said
it would take 6 hours. Well, the times on those things are ridiculous,
but it did keep slowly updating the number of MB downloaded.
Unfortunately, I could not read this with JAWS in Windows 7. So, if this
happens to you, give it some time. It may still be downloading.

Neal

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Re: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

2015-10-04 Thread Rajmund 
Hello,
For the IPad, it kept yelling 2 hours. Then, above about 55, things have 
speeded up.

- Original Message -
From: Neal Ewers  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 4, 2015 1:45 am
Subject: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

>
>
> Hi all. Just for your information if this happens to you. I just updated my 
> Wife's iPhone 5C. It took 3 hours to download the file on the same WiFi 
> connection that took me 5 minutes the other day. I almost gave up and assumed 
> that there was nothing happening until my wife looked at the screen and read 
> what JAWS would not read. It was downloading and it said it would take 6 
> hours. Well, the times on those things are ridiculous, but it did keep slowly 
> updating the number of MB downloaded. Unfortunately, I could not read this 
> with JAWS in Windows 7. So, if this happens to you, give it some time. It may 
> still be downloading.
>  
> Neal
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Re: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

2015-10-04 Thread Rajmund 
Hello,
I did it from the IPad, though, and it still took forever. LOL, I have nothing 
but the IPad and note takers, anyway.

- Original Message -
From: Colin McDonald  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 4, 2015 3:23 am
Subject: Re: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

>
>
> I would definitely just do it from the phone and not the pc.
> When you add more processing into the chain things will always slow down.
> I find doing anything with the IPhone via the pc to be tedious at best and 
> frustrating all the time.
>  
> Regards
> Colin
> From: Neal Ewers 
> Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 6:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2
>  
> Hi all. Just for your information if this happens to you. I just updated my 
> Wife's iPhone 5C. It took 3 hours to download the file on the same WiFi 
> connection that took me 5 minutes the other day. I almost gave up and assumed 
> that there was nothing happening until my wife looked at the screen and read 
> what JAWS would not read. It was downloading and it said it would take 6 
> hours. Well, the times on those things are ridiculous, but it did keep slowly 
> updating the number of MB downloaded. Unfortunately, I could not read this 
> with JAWS in Windows 7. So, if this happens to you, give it some time. It may 
> still be downloading.
>  
> Neal
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Re: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

2015-10-04 Thread Shai 
Hello Neal,
For next time, if you tab through the ITunes window, JAWS should
announce one item downloading. Tabbing further should display the item
being downloaded and if you tab one more time the progress of the
download. Although I have not updated this way in a while, this is the
way I remember that iTunes use to have it in previous versions.
Has this option been removed?

On 10/3/15, Neal Ewers  wrote:
> Hi all. Just for your information if this happens to you. I just updated my
> Wife's iPhone 5C. It took 3 hours to download the file on the same WiFi
> connection that took me 5 minutes the other day. I almost gave up and
> assumed that there was nothing happening until my wife looked at the screen
> and read what JAWS would not read. It was downloading and it said it would
> take 6 hours. Well, the times on those things are ridiculous, but it did
> keep slowly updating the number of MB downloaded. Unfortunately, I could
> not
> read this with JAWS in Windows 7. So, if this happens to you, give it some
> time. It may still be downloading.
>
> Neal
>
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RE: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

2015-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
If it’s slow it’s slow and it doesn’t matter whether you do it on the PC or the 
phone. I am pretty this doesn’t even necessarily have to do with your download 
speed but rather with Apple’s servers. For example, I was going to upgrade my 
iPhone 6S which was on 9.0.2 to the latest iOS 9.1 Beta 3 last week. This is of 
course a large, 1.4 Gb download. I was at work and while there may be ways to 
upgrade to a public beta with iTunes, I decided to do it from the phone. I have 
a 25 Mb down ADSL connection and normally I could download a 1.4 Gb file in 
about 6 or 8 minutes, but the phone started out saying 2 hours, then 4 hours, 
then at one point it said 12 hours and looking at the download progress it was 
going super slow. I at one point paused the download and restarted it and that 
went a bit faster, but still slow. It was sitting there on my desk, plugged in 
and I had set the auto lock to never lock the screen. Anyhow, when it was time 
to go home for the day I was about 35% done after probably 3 hours. So I went 
home which of course would have paused the download since it will only download 
such a large update on WiFi. When I got home I didn’t immediately check, but 
not 10 minutes later a message popped up on my phone telling me that iOS 9.1 
was now ready to be installed which means almost two thirds of the download 
finished in 10 minutes where one third earlier had taken hours. I did, by the 
way, check my business internet connection on Speedtest.net and the results 
came back telling me I was getting the full download and upload speed my 
connection is giving me and while iOS was downloading super slow on my iPhone, 
I downloaded some other files on my PC and they came in super fast. I think 
there sometimes is just no explanation why a download is very slow, the 
bottleneck could be in many places and all one can do is wait or stop it and 
try later to see if it’s faster.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Colin McDonald
Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

 

I would definitely just do it from the phone and not the pc.

When you add more processing into the chain things will always slow down.

I find doing anything with the IPhone via the pc to be tedious at best and 
frustrating all the time.

 

Regards

Colin

From: Neal Ewers <mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>  

Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 6:45 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

 

Hi all. Just for your information if this happens to you. I just updated my 
Wife’s iPhone 5C. It took 3 hours to download the file on the same WiFi 
connection that took me 5 minutes the other day. I almost gave up and assumed 
that there was nothing happening until my wife looked at the screen and read 
what JAWS would not read. It was downloading and it said it would take 6 hours. 
Well, the times on those things are ridiculous, but it did keep slowly updating 
the number of MB downloaded. Unfortunately, I could not read this with JAWS in 
Windows 7. So, if this happens to you, give it some time. It may still be 
downloading.

 

Neal

 

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RE: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

2015-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
No, while a download is in progress, you can tab around until you find a button 
called Activity Popover. Activating this will open another Window which shows 
you the progress of your download or whatever else you are doing. In order for 
Jaws to read the current information correctly you have to refresh the screen 
with Jawsk Key + Escape.

Regards,
Sieghard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shai
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 12:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

Hello Neal,
For next time, if you tab through the ITunes window, JAWS should announce one 
item downloading. Tabbing further should display the item being downloaded and 
if you tab one more time the progress of the download. Although I have not 
updated this way in a while, this is the way I remember that iTunes use to have 
it in previous versions.
Has this option been removed?

On 10/3/15, Neal Ewers  wrote:
> Hi all. Just for your information if this happens to you. I just 
> updated my Wife's iPhone 5C. It took 3 hours to download the file on 
> the same WiFi connection that took me 5 minutes the other day. I 
> almost gave up and assumed that there was nothing happening until my 
> wife looked at the screen and read what JAWS would not read. It was 
> downloading and it said it would take 6 hours. Well, the times on 
> those things are ridiculous, but it did keep slowly updating the 
> number of MB downloaded. Unfortunately, I could not read this with 
> JAWS in Windows 7. So, if this happens to you, give it some time. It 
> may still be downloading.
>
> Neal
>
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Re: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

2015-10-04 Thread Rajmund 
Hello,
I have to agree, I think its the apple server, that's why I pointed out how I 
did it. 

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 4, 2015 2:57 pm
Subject: RE: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

>
>
> If it's slow it's slow and it doesn't matter whether you do it on the PC or 
> the phone. I am pretty this doesn't even necessarily have to do with your 
> download speed but rather with Apple's servers. For example, I was going to 
> upgrade my iPhone 6S which was on 9.0.2 to the latest iOS 9.1 Beta 3 last 
> week. This is of course a large, 1.4 Gb download. I was at work and while 
> there may be ways to upgrade to a public beta with iTunes, I decided to do it 
> from the phone. I have a 25 Mb down ADSL connection and normally I could 
> download a 1.4 Gb file in about 6 or 8 minutes, but the phone started out 
> saying 2 hours, then 4 hours, then at one point it said 12 hours and looking 
> at the download progress it was going super slow. I at one point paused the 
> download and restarted it and that went a bit faster, but still slow. It was 
> sitting there on my desk, plugged in and I had set the auto lock to never 
> lock the screen. Anyhow, when it was time to go home for the day I was about 
> 35% done after probably 3 hours. So I went home which of course would have 
> paused the download since it will only download such a large update on WiFi. 
> When I got home I didn't immediately check, but not 10 minutes later a 
> message popped up on my phone telling me that iOS 9.1 was now ready to be 
> installed which means almost two thirds of the download finished in 10 
> minutes where one third earlier had taken hours. I did, by the way, check my 
> business internet connection on Speedtest.net and the results came back 
> telling me I was getting the full download and upload speed my connection is 
> giving me and while iOS was downloading super slow on my iPhone, I downloaded 
> some other files on my PC and they came in super fast. I think there 
> sometimes is just no explanation why a download is very slow, the bottleneck 
> could be in many places and all one can do is wait or stop it and try later 
> to see if it's faster.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Colin McDonald
> Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 7:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2
>  
> I would definitely just do it from the phone and not the pc.
> When you add more processing into the chain things will always slow down..
> I find doing anything with the IPhone via the pc to be tedious at best and 
> frustrating all the time.
>  
> Regards
> Colin
> From: Neal Ewers 
> Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 6:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2
>  
> Hi all. Just for your information if this happens to you. I just updated my 
> Wife's iPhone 5C. It took 3 hours to download the file on the same WiFi 
> connection that took me 5 minutes the other day. I almost gave up and assumed 
> that there was nothing happening until my wife looked at the screen and read 
> what JAWS would not read. It was downloading and it said it would take 6 
> hours. Well, the times on those things are ridiculous, but it did keep slowly 
> updating the number of MB downloaded. Unfortunately, I could not read this 
> with JAWS in Windows 7. So, if this happens to you, give it some time. It may 
> still be downloading.
>  
> Neal
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RE: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

2015-10-04 Thread Rose Combs 
Not any longer, at least here on the latest iTunes when I upgraded to 9, 9.01 
and 9/02 once the update started never heard a word, tabbing through revealed 
no progress.  


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 7:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

I'd definitely do it through iTunes and the PC myself. You get a lot 
more feedback on how the upgrade is going, and you  don't need the space 
and processing power on the iPhone to do the uncompressing. When you add 
more processing, things actually speed up because you can share the 
processing tasks. This is why you don't have single core processors any 
more on your laptops, desktops, tablets or even your iPhone.

On 10/03/2015 09:23 PM, Colin McDonald wrote:
> I would definitely just do it from the phone and not the pc.
> When you add more processing into the chain things will always slow down.
> I find doing anything with the IPhone via the pc to be tedious at best
> and frustrating all the time.
> Regards
> Colin
> *From:* Neal Ewers <mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 3, 2015 6:45 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* A very long download of iOS 9.0.2
>
> Hi all. Just for your information if this happens to you. I just updated
> my Wife’s iPhone 5C. It took 3 hours to download the file on the same
> WiFi connection that took me 5 minutes the other day. I almost gave up
> and assumed that there was nothing happening until my wife looked at the
> screen and read what JAWS would not read. It was downloading and it said
> it would take 6 hours. Well, the times on those things are ridiculous,
> but it did keep slowly updating the number of MB downloaded.
> Unfortunately, I could not read this with JAWS in Windows 7. So, if this
> happens to you, give it some time. It may still be downloading.
>
> Neal
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RE: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

2015-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
As I said, you have to find the activity popover button and open up that 
window. It's actually easiest to find it by going to the search field in iTunes 
with Control+F and then I believe it's only a tap or two away.
Once that window opens, I think you have to tab once, then do a screen refresh 
and the information about a download, update progress, sync progress and so on 
will be there.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

Not any longer, at least here on the latest iTunes when I upgraded to 9, 9.01 
and 9/02 once the update started never heard a word, tabbing through revealed 
no progress.  


Rose Combs
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 7:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A very long download of iOS 9.0.2

I'd definitely do it through iTunes and the PC myself. You get a lot more 
feedback on how the upgrade is going, and you  don't need the space and 
processing power on the iPhone to do the uncompressing. When you add more 
processing, things actually speed up because you can share the processing 
tasks. This is why you don't have single core processors any more on your 
laptops, desktops, tablets or even your iPhone.

On 10/03/2015 09:23 PM, Colin McDonald wrote:
> I would definitely just do it from the phone and not the pc.
> When you add more processing into the chain things will always slow down.
> I find doing anything with the IPhone via the pc to be tedious at best 
> and frustrating all the time.
> Regards
> Colin
> *From:* Neal Ewers <mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 3, 2015 6:45 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* A very long download of iOS 9.0.2
>
> Hi all. Just for your information if this happens to you. I just 
> updated my Wife’s iPhone 5C. It took 3 hours to download the file on 
> the same WiFi connection that took me 5 minutes the other day. I 
> almost gave up and assumed that there was nothing happening until my 
> wife looked at the screen and read what JAWS would not read. It was 
> downloading and it said it would take 6 hours. Well, the times on 
> those things are ridiculous, but it did keep slowly updating the number of MB 
> downloaded.
> Unfortunately, I could not read this with JAWS in Windows 7. So, if 
> this happens to you, give it some time. It may still be downloading.
>
> Neal
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