Re: Bard only for US Citizens?

2013-10-01 Thread Alan Paganelli
I'm 65 years old and have been in the library reading service sense I was 
around 8 so I've read a few books!   And, sense you seem to know what 
I know, I'd take a guess you've read more then a few books yourself.


I was planning on getting a Victor Reader Stream 2 as my Victor Reader 
Stream 1 is getting pretty old.  So far, all it's keys work but a few just 
work.  Humanware wants something like 379 USD for it.  The free bard app has 
saved me from having to shell out that kind of money so now I can put that 
in a new iPhone.  We've been sick around our house passing around what seems 
to be a cold so haven't felt like going down to the AT&T store yet.  I'm 
down to only 3.2 GB left in free space on my iPhone 4 32 GB iPhone.  Maybe 
when I get the 5s, I better get the 64 GB version.  More room for books you 
see.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Betty Emmons" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: Bard only for US Citizens?


the Library of Congress used to allow books to come from libraries from 
around the world. unfortunely their was problems with different postal 
rates, from different countries. Betty Emmons
- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Paganelli" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: Bard only for US Citizens?


As far as I know, BARD or Braille and Audio Reading Downloads a national 
program by the federal government of the United States of America for US 
citizens.  I know Canada has their own reading service for the blind and 
the UK has theirs.  I do remember reading somewhere that they all have a 
lose association with each other and in the past, they have lent books 
out.  I remember getting a book on music from Canada on loan.  My guess 
is as books world wide go more and more digital, arrangements will be 
made to avoid redundancy if nothing else and of course language.  If you 
can't understand the language, it's pointless to borrow the book 
regardless of it's format.

---

Regards,

Alan

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Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: "Avnish Chopra" 

To: "ViPhone" 
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:52 AM
Subject: Bard only for US Citizens?



How can non-US citizens become members and use the Bard application?
Any ideas? Thank you!

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Re: Bard only for US Citizens?

2013-10-01 Thread Betty Emmons
the Library of Congress used to allow books to come from libraries from 
around the world. unfortunely their was problems with different postal 
rates, from different countries. Betty Emmons
- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Paganelli" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: Bard only for US Citizens?


As far as I know, BARD or Braille and Audio Reading Downloads a national 
program by the federal government of the United States of America for US 
citizens.  I know Canada has their own reading service for the blind and 
the UK has theirs.  I do remember reading somewhere that they all have a 
lose association with each other and in the past, they have lent books 
out.  I remember getting a book on music from Canada on loan.  My guess is 
as books world wide go more and more digital, arrangements will be made to 
avoid redundancy if nothing else and of course language.  If you can't 
understand the language, it's pointless to borrow the book regardless of 
it's format.

---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: "Avnish Chopra" 

To: "ViPhone" 
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:52 AM
Subject: Bard only for US Citizens?



How can non-US citizens become members and use the Bard application?
Any ideas? Thank you!

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Re: Bard only for US Citizens?

2013-09-29 Thread Marianne Denning
I am hopeful that if the treaty to make books accessible
internationally passes we all will have access to books around the
world, including NLS and Bookshare.

On 9/29/13, alia robinson  wrote:
> Liberal bashing is uncalled for! I am a proud liberal, and am here for help
> with my phone, not political bashing.
>
> Alia
> On Sep 28, 2013, at 9:00 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>
>> If living in the United States, the immigrants can be certified as
>> eligible when living in a "sanctuary city" such as Chicago.  Liberals
>> love putting the illegal immigrant on a pedestal,
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Re: Bard only for US Citizens?

2013-09-29 Thread alia robinson
Liberal bashing is uncalled for! I am a proud liberal, and am here for help 
with my phone, not political bashing. 

Alia
On Sep 28, 2013, at 9:00 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:

> If living in the United States, the immigrants can be certified as
> eligible when living in a "sanctuary city" such as Chicago.  Liberals
> love putting the illegal immigrant on a pedestal,

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Re: Bard only for US Citizens?

2013-09-29 Thread Alan Paganelli
I think this is starting to drift off the topic.  This started about an app 
for the iPhone and now it's drifting off into something else.  I would 
suggest contacting what ever organization supplies you with audio or Braille 
books and ask for an iPhone app to access digital books in your country.

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Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: "Kelly Pierce" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Bard only for US Citizens?



If living in the United States, the immigrants can be certified as
eligible when living in a "sanctuary city" such as Chicago.  Liberals
love putting the illegal immigrant on a pedestal, the rules from the
elected representatives of the American people be dammed.

Longer term, BARD may be available to people in other countries when
the recent treaty for copyright exceptions in the World Intellectual
Property Organization is ratified by enough countries to go into force
worldwide.  Blind people in other countries could follow up with their
elected officials for their country to sign and ratify the treaty.

Kelly



On 9/28/13, Pablo Morales  wrote:
Well, it  is, bard the library of the congress of United States. It is 
for
Legal residents, and american Citizens. Of course, the legal residences 
has


to be living in US, and American Citizens could be living in or out of
United States.

- Original Message -
From: "Alan Paganelli" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: Bard only for US Citizens?



You must be a US citizen or a citizen living abroad.
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Regards,

Alan

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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on
my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message -
From: "Avnish Chopra" 
To: "ViPhone" 
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:52 AM
Subject: Bard only for US Citizens?



How can non-US citizens become members and use the Bard application?
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Re: Bard only for US Citizens?

2013-09-29 Thread Alan Paganelli
As far as I know, BARD or Braille and Audio Reading Downloads a national 
program by the federal government of the United States of America for US 
citizens.  I know Canada has their own reading service for the blind and the 
UK has theirs.  I do remember reading somewhere that they all have a lose 
association with each other and in the past, they have lent books out.  I 
remember getting a book on music from Canada on loan.  My guess is as books 
world wide go more and more digital, arrangements will be made to avoid 
redundancy if nothing else and of course language.  If you can't understand 
the language, it's pointless to borrow the book regardless of it's format.

---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: "Avnish Chopra" 

To: "ViPhone" 
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:52 AM
Subject: Bard only for US Citizens?



How can non-US citizens become members and use the Bard application?
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Re: Bard only for US Citizens?

2013-09-28 Thread Kelly Pierce
If living in the United States, the immigrants can be certified as
eligible when living in a "sanctuary city" such as Chicago.  Liberals
love putting the illegal immigrant on a pedestal, the rules from the
elected representatives of the American people be dammed.

Longer term, BARD may be available to people in other countries when
the recent treaty for copyright exceptions in the World Intellectual
Property Organization is ratified by enough countries to go into force
worldwide.  Blind people in other countries could follow up with their
elected officials for their country to sign and ratify the treaty.

Kelly



On 9/28/13, Pablo Morales  wrote:
> Well, it  is, bard the library of the congress of United States. It is for
> Legal residents, and american Citizens. Of course, the legal residences has
>
> to be living in US, and American Citizens could be living in or out of
> United States.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Alan Paganelli" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Bard only for US Citizens?
>
>
>> You must be a US citizen or a citizen living abroad.
>> ---
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>>
>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>>
>> Please click on:
>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played
>> on
>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on
>> my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Avnish Chopra" 
>> To: "ViPhone" 
>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:52 AM
>> Subject: Bard only for US Citizens?
>>
>>
>>> How can non-US citizens become members and use the Bard application?
>>> Any ideas? Thank you!
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Re: Bard only for US Citizens?

2013-09-28 Thread Pablo Morales
Well, it  is, bard the library of the congress of United States. It is for 
Legal residents, and american Citizens. Of course, the legal residences has 
to be living in US, and American Citizens could be living in or out of 
United States.


- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Paganelli" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: Bard only for US Citizens?



You must be a US citizen or a citizen living abroad.
---

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Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: "Avnish Chopra" 

To: "ViPhone" 
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:52 AM
Subject: Bard only for US Citizens?



How can non-US citizens become members and use the Bard application?
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Re: Bard only for US Citizens?

2013-09-28 Thread Alan Paganelli

You must be a US citizen or a citizen living abroad.
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How can non-US citizens become members and use the Bard application?
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Re: Bard only for US Citizens?

2013-09-28 Thread May and Noah
Correct you have to be a US citizen. For example I am a US citizen and I live 
in Canada so my status with them is a US citizen living abroad.


May and Prince Noah
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On 2013-09-28, at 2:06 PM, Marianne Denning  wrote:

> Unfortunately, copyright laws in other countries don't allow people
> who are not citizens outside of the U.S. to use BARD.  It would be
> great if that would change.
> 
> On 9/28/13, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> Bard is only available to US citizens, whether in the US or living outside
>> the US.
>> 
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>> On Sep 28, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Avnish Chopra  wrote:
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>>> Any ideas? Thank you!
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Re: Bard only for US Citizens?

2013-09-28 Thread Steve
You need to be eligible for NLS library service; so either a U.S. Citizen or 
a lawful immigrant.  You then need to submit documentation if you aren't a 
client verifying your vision or learning print disability to qualify.


Sorry.

Steve
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Re: Bard only for US Citizens?

2013-09-28 Thread Marianne Denning
Unfortunately, copyright laws in other countries don't allow people
who are not citizens outside of the U.S. to use BARD.  It would be
great if that would change.

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> Teresa
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Re: Bard only for US Citizens?

2013-09-28 Thread Teresa Cochran
Bard is only available to US citizens, whether in the US or living outside the 
US.

Teresa
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