Re: Direct touch issut

2021-07-24 Thread Duane Steele
Thanks Chris for that clarification. It's just that in previous iOS updates, we 
didn't see such a label even when writing using mBraille or a Braille display. 
I really appreciate the info, and the help from Richard and others for using 
and understanding this feature.


> On Jul 24, 2021, at 2:57 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Direct Touch is the feature that allows apps like MBraille to exist, and has 
> actually been around as long as MBraille has.
> It basically overrides the built in gestures with the gestures that are built 
> into the specific app. So Direct Touch is what allows you to type using the 
> braille keyboard in MBraille.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>>> 
>> I just now discovered that with mBraille. What the heck is direct touch 
>> anyway? Why does it exist and is it of any benefit to us visually impaired 
>> users?
>> 
>> 
 On Jul 24, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
>>>  Remember, sometimes it will say direct touch area, but mBraille will work 
>>> as it should.
>>> Its confusing.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard 
>>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
>>> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>>> 
>>> www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
 
  Thanks Richard. When I swipe up it says direct touch on for mBraille 
 which is what I'm using now. Sometimes however, I use my BrailleEdge 40. 
 Oh, and you're right about the spacebar plus q for quick navigation on and 
 off. Appreciate your help.
 
 
> On Jul 24, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Quick Nav may also be getting in the way if this is a qwerty keyboard. 
> if so, pressing the left+right arrow keys will toggle quick nav.
> On a braille display, I think it is space+q.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:11 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> I think it might be in the rotor settings you go to where it says 
>> direct touch and then you flip down to where it says disable and then 
>> you can disable it there but someone else can feel free to correct me on 
>> that.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:03 AM, Duane Steele  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> I finally took the plunge and updated my phone to iOS 14.7 last night. 
>>> Lots of changes. This may have been covered, but how do I get rid of 
>>> something called direct touch so I can use my keyboard for texting 
>>> without it like in the good old days.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peace & Blessings,
>>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>>> Phone (276) 730-5194
>>> 
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Re: Direct touch issut

2021-07-24 Thread Chris Chaffin

Direct Touch is the feature that allows apps like MBraille to exist, and has 
actually been around as long as MBraille has.
It basically overrides the built in gestures with the gestures that are built 
into the specific app. So Direct Touch is what allows you to type using the 
braille keyboard in MBraille.

Chris


> On Jul 24, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> I just now discovered that with mBraille. What the heck is direct touch 
> anyway? Why does it exist and is it of any benefit to us visually impaired 
> users?
> 
> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>  Remember, sometimes it will say direct touch area, but mBraille will work 
>> as it should.
>> Its confusing.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard 
>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
>> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>> 
>> www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Thanks Richard. When I swipe up it says direct touch on for mBraille 
>>> which is what I'm using now. Sometimes however, I use my BrailleEdge 40. 
>>> Oh, and you're right about the spacebar plus q for quick navigation on and 
>>> off. Appreciate your help.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 24, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
  Quick Nav may also be getting in the way if this is a qwerty keyboard. 
 if so, pressing the left+right arrow keys will toggle quick nav.
 On a braille display, I think it is space+q.
 
 
 
 Richard 
 "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
 discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
 
 www.turner42.com
 
 
> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:11 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> I think it might be in the rotor settings you go to where it says direct 
> touch and then you flip down to where it says disable and then you can 
> disable it there but someone else can feel free to correct me on that.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:03 AM, Duane Steele  
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> I finally took the plunge and updated my phone to iOS 14.7 last night. 
>> Lots of changes. This may have been covered, but how do I get rid of 
>> something called direct touch so I can use my keyboard for texting 
>> without it like in the good old days.
>> 
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
>> 
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Re: Direct touch issut

2021-07-24 Thread Duane Steele
I just now discovered that with mBraille. What the heck is direct touch anyway? 
Why does it exist and is it of any benefit to us visually impaired users?


> On Jul 24, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Remember, sometimes it will say direct touch area, but mBraille will work 
> as it should.
> Its confusing.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>>> 
>>  Thanks Richard. When I swipe up it says direct touch on for mBraille which 
>> is what I'm using now. Sometimes however, I use my BrailleEdge 40. Oh, and 
>> you're right about the spacebar plus q for quick navigation on and off. 
>> Appreciate your help.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Quick Nav may also be getting in the way if this is a qwerty keyboard. if 
>>> so, pressing the left+right arrow keys will toggle quick nav.
>>> On a braille display, I think it is space+q.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard 
>>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
>>> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>>> 
>>> www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:11 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
 
 I think it might be in the rotor settings you go to where it says direct 
 touch and then you flip down to where it says disable and then you can 
 disable it there but someone else can feel free to correct me on that.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:03 AM, Duane Steele  
>> wrote:
> 
> I finally took the plunge and updated my phone to iOS 14.7 last night. 
> Lots of changes. This may have been covered, but how do I get rid of 
> something called direct touch so I can use my keyboard for texting 
> without it like in the good old days.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
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Re: Direct touch issut

2021-07-24 Thread Richard Turner
Remember, sometimes it will say direct touch area, but mBraille will work as it 
should.
Its confusing.



Richard
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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:

 Thanks Richard. When I swipe up it says direct touch on for mBraille which is 
what I'm using now. Sometimes however, I use my BrailleEdge 40. Oh, and you're 
right about the spacebar plus q for quick navigation on and off. Appreciate 
your help.


On Jul 24, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 Quick Nav may also be getting in the way if this is a qwerty keyboard. if so, 
pressing the left+right arrow keys will toggle quick nav.
On a braille display, I think it is space+q.



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:11 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:

I think it might be in the rotor settings you go to where it says direct touch 
and then you flip down to where it says disable and then you can disable it 
there but someone else can feel free to correct me on that.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:03 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:

I finally took the plunge and updated my phone to iOS 14.7 last night. Lots of 
changes. This may have been covered, but how do I get rid of something called 
direct touch so I can use my keyboard for texting without it like in the good 
old days.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: Direct touch issut

2021-07-24 Thread Duane Steele
Thanks Richard. When I swipe up it says direct touch on for mBraille which is 
what I'm using now. Sometimes however, I use my BrailleEdge 40. Oh, and you're 
right about the spacebar plus q for quick navigation on and off. Appreciate 
your help.


> On Jul 24, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Quick Nav may also be getting in the way if this is a qwerty keyboard. if 
> so, pressing the left+right arrow keys will toggle quick nav.
> On a braille display, I think it is space+q.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:11 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> I think it might be in the rotor settings you go to where it says direct 
>> touch and then you flip down to where it says disable and then you can 
>> disable it there but someone else can feel free to correct me on that.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:03 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I finally took the plunge and updated my phone to iOS 14.7 last night. 
>>> Lots of changes. This may have been covered, but how do I get rid of 
>>> something called direct touch so I can use my keyboard for texting without 
>>> it like in the good old days.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peace & Blessings,
>>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>>> Phone (276) 730-5194
>>> 
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Re: Direct touch issut

2021-07-24 Thread Richard Turner
Quick Nav may also be getting in the way if this is a qwerty keyboard. if so, 
pressing the left+right arrow keys will toggle quick nav.
On a braille display, I think it is space+q.



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On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:11 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:

I think it might be in the rotor settings you go to where it says direct touch 
and then you flip down to where it says disable and then you can disable it 
there but someone else can feel free to correct me on that.

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I finally took the plunge and updated my phone to iOS 14.7 last night. Lots of 
changes. This may have been covered, but how do I get rid of something called 
direct touch so I can use my keyboard for texting without it like in the good 
old days.


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Re: Direct touch issut

2021-07-24 Thread Richard Turner
You cannot get rid of it, but it would help to know which kind of keyboard.
This usually impacts braille displays/keyboards, so you turn the rotor to where 
it says direct touch and flick up.
That should get you going.
HTH,




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Re: Direct touch issut

2021-07-24 Thread CHELA Robles
I think it might be in the rotor settings you go to where it says direct touch 
and then you flip down to where it says disable and then you can disable it 
there but someone else can feel free to correct me on that.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:03 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
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> I finally took the plunge and updated my phone to iOS 14.7 last night. Lots 
> of changes. This may have been covered, but how do I get rid of something 
> called direct touch so I can use my keyboard for texting without it like in 
> the good old days.
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