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Yes sir, have reported this and a few other issues to Apple and received the standard reply. Those poor people are probably more than sick of hearing from me. LOL. Thanks, Scott On 4/18/13, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Have you reported this to Apple? David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19/04/2013, at 2:07, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris. The problem is that when you try to navigate by heading, after a certain point, VoiceOver will jump to some other random point in the app. This seems true for both Safari and the contacts app. For example, if I use the rotor and flick through the letters of my contacts, once I get past the letter e, it jumps back up to some other point within that app. It seems to be a VoiceOver problem, but not one that is in every app. For example, I can jump by headings just fine with NFB Newsline. Not sure exactly what the issue is, though it seems to happen consistently with Safari. I wonder if Crome suffers the same issue? Scott On 4/17/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious, what's the problem with VoiceOver no longer working with headings? I have noticed anything myself, and I don't recall this issue being mentioned before, but maybe I just missed it. On 04/18/2013 08:01 AM, Scott Davert wrote: Good morning, Sarah. Sadly, the answer to your question is a no. Clearly, they can make a keyboard equivalent, so I'm not quite sure why they have yet to create a braille display keyboard equivalent. Perhaps in iOS 7? LOL. Actually, I think Apple has a bit more of a serious issue to work on in that they need to fix the way VoiceOver no longer handles headings properly, so this may get put on the back burner for awhile. Maybe, and this is a crazy idea I have, they could fix both. LOL. Cheers from the big Apple, Scott On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote: Hi all, On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the double tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent keystroke for Braille displays? Thanks, Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
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Hi Chris. The problem is that when you try to navigate by heading, after a certain point, VoiceOver will jump to some other random point in the app. This seems true for both Safari and the contacts app. For example, if I use the rotor and flick through the letters of my contacts, once I get past the letter e, it jumps back up to some other point within that app. It seems to be a VoiceOver problem, but not one that is in every app. For example, I can jump by headings just fine with NFB Newsline. Not sure exactly what the issue is, though it seems to happen consistently with Safari. I wonder if Crome suffers the same issue? Scott On 4/17/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious, what's the problem with VoiceOver no longer working with headings? I have noticed anything myself, and I don't recall this issue being mentioned before, but maybe I just missed it. On 04/18/2013 08:01 AM, Scott Davert wrote: Good morning, Sarah. Sadly, the answer to your question is a no. Clearly, they can make a keyboard equivalent, so I'm not quite sure why they have yet to create a braille display keyboard equivalent. Perhaps in iOS 7? LOL. Actually, I think Apple has a bit more of a serious issue to work on in that they need to fix the way VoiceOver no longer handles headings properly, so this may get put on the back burner for awhile. Maybe, and this is a crazy idea I have, they could fix both. LOL. Cheers from the big Apple, Scott On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote: Hi all, On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the double tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent keystroke for Braille displays? Thanks, Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Ah, I see now. I do see this when in my Google contacts. I haven't noticed it in any other apps though, including All Contacts and Safari/Chrome. I also didn't notice this until IOS 6. On 04/18/2013 09:07 AM, Scott Davert wrote: Hi Chris. The problem is that when you try to navigate by heading, after a certain point, VoiceOver will jump to some other random point in the app. This seems true for both Safari and the contacts app. For example, if I use the rotor and flick through the letters of my contacts, once I get past the letter e, it jumps back up to some other point within that app. It seems to be a VoiceOver problem, but not one that is in every app. For example, I can jump by headings just fine with NFB Newsline. Not sure exactly what the issue is, though it seems to happen consistently with Safari. I wonder if Crome suffers the same issue? Scott On 4/17/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious, what's the problem with VoiceOver no longer working with headings? I have noticed anything myself, and I don't recall this issue being mentioned before, but maybe I just missed it. On 04/18/2013 08:01 AM, Scott Davert wrote: Good morning, Sarah. Sadly, the answer to your question is a no. Clearly, they can make a keyboard equivalent, so I'm not quite sure why they have yet to create a braille display keyboard equivalent. Perhaps in iOS 7? LOL. Actually, I think Apple has a bit more of a serious issue to work on in that they need to fix the way VoiceOver no longer handles headings properly, so this may get put on the back burner for awhile. Maybe, and this is a crazy idea I have, they could fix both. LOL. Cheers from the big Apple, Scott On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote: Hi all, On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the double tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent keystroke for Braille displays? Thanks, Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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That's because they broke it in ios 6. LOL. I notice it in Safari when a page has a lot of headings. Scott On 4/17/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, I see now. I do see this when in my Google contacts. I haven't noticed it in any other apps though, including All Contacts and Safari/Chrome. I also didn't notice this until IOS 6. On 04/18/2013 09:07 AM, Scott Davert wrote: Hi Chris. The problem is that when you try to navigate by heading, after a certain point, VoiceOver will jump to some other random point in the app. This seems true for both Safari and the contacts app. For example, if I use the rotor and flick through the letters of my contacts, once I get past the letter e, it jumps back up to some other point within that app. It seems to be a VoiceOver problem, but not one that is in every app. For example, I can jump by headings just fine with NFB Newsline. Not sure exactly what the issue is, though it seems to happen consistently with Safari. I wonder if Crome suffers the same issue? Scott On 4/17/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious, what's the problem with VoiceOver no longer working with headings? I have noticed anything myself, and I don't recall this issue being mentioned before, but maybe I just missed it. On 04/18/2013 08:01 AM, Scott Davert wrote: Good morning, Sarah. Sadly, the answer to your question is a no. Clearly, they can make a keyboard equivalent, so I'm not quite sure why they have yet to create a braille display keyboard equivalent. Perhaps in iOS 7? LOL. Actually, I think Apple has a bit more of a serious issue to work on in that they need to fix the way VoiceOver no longer handles headings properly, so this may get put on the back burner for awhile. Maybe, and this is a crazy idea I have, they could fix both. LOL. Cheers from the big Apple, Scott On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote: Hi all, On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the double tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent keystroke for Braille displays? Thanks, Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
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Exactly. I see it in Applies all the time. It's frustrating, because pages like that one are so dependent on headings for smooth navigation. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Davert Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 11:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Headings [was ] That's because they broke it in ios 6. LOL. I notice it in Safari when a page has a lot of headings. Scott On 4/17/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, I see now. I do see this when in my Google contacts. I haven't noticed it in any other apps though, including All Contacts and Safari/Chrome. I also didn't notice this until IOS 6. On 04/18/2013 09:07 AM, Scott Davert wrote: Hi Chris. The problem is that when you try to navigate by heading, after a certain point, VoiceOver will jump to some other random point in the app. This seems true for both Safari and the contacts app. For example, if I use the rotor and flick through the letters of my contacts, once I get past the letter e, it jumps back up to some other point within that app. It seems to be a VoiceOver problem, but not one that is in every app. For example, I can jump by headings just fine with NFB Newsline. Not sure exactly what the issue is, though it seems to happen consistently with Safari. I wonder if Crome suffers the same issue? Scott On 4/17/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious, what's the problem with VoiceOver no longer working with headings? I have noticed anything myself, and I don't recall this issue being mentioned before, but maybe I just missed it. On 04/18/2013 08:01 AM, Scott Davert wrote: Good morning, Sarah. Sadly, the answer to your question is a no. Clearly, they can make a keyboard equivalent, so I'm not quite sure why they have yet to create a braille display keyboard equivalent. Perhaps in iOS 7? LOL. Actually, I think Apple has a bit more of a serious issue to work on in that they need to fix the way VoiceOver no longer handles headings properly, so this may get put on the back burner for awhile. Maybe, and this is a crazy idea I have, they could fix both. LOL. Cheers from the big Apple, Scott On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote: Hi all, On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the double tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent keystroke for Braille displays? Thanks, Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group
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good to know that I am not the only one having this frustrating difficulty. I have found that sometimes, if I flick quickly past the heading that tmakes voiceover lose focus, I can navigate a little farther. also, if I find a heading I want to keep focus on, I will double tap to pause speech, then flick left and back to the right to have it read it. This is a temporary work around. I do hope this bug gets fixed soon. Kellie, Loki and July -Original Message- From: Sarah Cranston Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 11:40 AM To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: Headings [was ] Exactly. I see it in Applies all the time. It's frustrating, because pages like that one are so dependent on headings for smooth navigation. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Davert Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 11:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Headings [was ] That's because they broke it in ios 6. LOL. I notice it in Safari when a page has a lot of headings. Scott On 4/17/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, I see now. I do see this when in my Google contacts. I haven't noticed it in any other apps though, including All Contacts and Safari/Chrome. I also didn't notice this until IOS 6. On 04/18/2013 09:07 AM, Scott Davert wrote: Hi Chris. The problem is that when you try to navigate by heading, after a certain point, VoiceOver will jump to some other random point in the app. This seems true for both Safari and the contacts app. For example, if I use the rotor and flick through the letters of my contacts, once I get past the letter e, it jumps back up to some other point within that app. It seems to be a VoiceOver problem, but not one that is in every app. For example, I can jump by headings just fine with NFB Newsline. Not sure exactly what the issue is, though it seems to happen consistently with Safari. I wonder if Crome suffers the same issue? Scott On 4/17/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious, what's the problem with VoiceOver no longer working with headings? I have noticed anything myself, and I don't recall this issue being mentioned before, but maybe I just missed it. On 04/18/2013 08:01 AM, Scott Davert wrote: Good morning, Sarah. Sadly, the answer to your question is a no. Clearly, they can make a keyboard equivalent, so I'm not quite sure why they have yet to create a braille display keyboard equivalent. Perhaps in iOS 7? LOL. Actually, I think Apple has a bit more of a serious issue to work on in that they need to fix the way VoiceOver no longer handles headings properly, so this may get put on the back burner for awhile. Maybe, and this is a crazy idea I have, they could fix both. LOL. Cheers from the big Apple, Scott On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote: Hi all, On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the double tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent keystroke for Braille displays? Thanks, Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en
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Yes, Applevis and any site like it with many headings will cause this to happen. It's a shame too, since they're a good way to navigate a complex web page. it also renders my Safari podcast on Applevis useless and obsolete. LOL. Scott On 4/18/13, Kellie and my lab pack pebbles...@gmail.com wrote: good to know that I am not the only one having this frustrating difficulty. I have found that sometimes, if I flick quickly past the heading that tmakes voiceover lose focus, I can navigate a little farther. also, if I find a heading I want to keep focus on, I will double tap to pause speech, then flick left and back to the right to have it read it. This is a temporary work around. I do hope this bug gets fixed soon. Kellie, Loki and July -Original Message- From: Sarah Cranston Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 11:40 AM To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: Headings [was ] Exactly. I see it in Applies all the time. It's frustrating, because pages like that one are so dependent on headings for smooth navigation. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Davert Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 11:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Headings [was ] That's because they broke it in ios 6. LOL. I notice it in Safari when a page has a lot of headings. Scott On 4/17/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, I see now. I do see this when in my Google contacts. I haven't noticed it in any other apps though, including All Contacts and Safari/Chrome. I also didn't notice this until IOS 6. On 04/18/2013 09:07 AM, Scott Davert wrote: Hi Chris. The problem is that when you try to navigate by heading, after a certain point, VoiceOver will jump to some other random point in the app. This seems true for both Safari and the contacts app. For example, if I use the rotor and flick through the letters of my contacts, once I get past the letter e, it jumps back up to some other point within that app. It seems to be a VoiceOver problem, but not one that is in every app. For example, I can jump by headings just fine with NFB Newsline. Not sure exactly what the issue is, though it seems to happen consistently with Safari. I wonder if Crome suffers the same issue? Scott On 4/17/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious, what's the problem with VoiceOver no longer working with headings? I have noticed anything myself, and I don't recall this issue being mentioned before, but maybe I just missed it. On 04/18/2013 08:01 AM, Scott Davert wrote: Good morning, Sarah. Sadly, the answer to your question is a no. Clearly, they can make a keyboard equivalent, so I'm not quite sure why they have yet to create a braille display keyboard equivalent. Perhaps in iOS 7? LOL. Actually, I think Apple has a bit more of a serious issue to work on in that they need to fix the way VoiceOver no longer handles headings properly, so this may get put on the back burner for awhile. Maybe, and this is a crazy idea I have, they could fix both. LOL. Cheers from the big Apple, Scott On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote: Hi all, On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the double tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent keystroke for Braille displays? Thanks, Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message
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Have you reported this to Apple? David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 19/04/2013, at 2:07, Scott Davert scottslistm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris. The problem is that when you try to navigate by heading, after a certain point, VoiceOver will jump to some other random point in the app. This seems true for both Safari and the contacts app. For example, if I use the rotor and flick through the letters of my contacts, once I get past the letter e, it jumps back up to some other point within that app. It seems to be a VoiceOver problem, but not one that is in every app. For example, I can jump by headings just fine with NFB Newsline. Not sure exactly what the issue is, though it seems to happen consistently with Safari. I wonder if Crome suffers the same issue? Scott On 4/17/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious, what's the problem with VoiceOver no longer working with headings? I have noticed anything myself, and I don't recall this issue being mentioned before, but maybe I just missed it. On 04/18/2013 08:01 AM, Scott Davert wrote: Good morning, Sarah. Sadly, the answer to your question is a no. Clearly, they can make a keyboard equivalent, so I'm not quite sure why they have yet to create a braille display keyboard equivalent. Perhaps in iOS 7? LOL. Actually, I think Apple has a bit more of a serious issue to work on in that they need to fix the way VoiceOver no longer handles headings properly, so this may get put on the back burner for awhile. Maybe, and this is a crazy idea I have, they could fix both. LOL. Cheers from the big Apple, Scott On 4/18/13, Sarah Cranston sarah.crans...@blind.state.ia.us wrote: Hi all, On a QWERTY keyboard, control+option+shift+m is the equivalent of the double tap and hold gesture on the touch screen. Is there an equivalent keystroke for Braille displays? Thanks, Sarah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
