Re: Question About Bible Reading With Braille Display

[Keith B.]

Thanks, Flor. This is something I had not thought of doing, and I am already 
thinking of various ways to work with this idea. I sincerely appreciate this 
thought. 

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Re: Question About Bible Reading With Braille Display

[Flor Lynch]

Hi,

Have you tried (where there are a number of consecutive pannings with just one 
or two words across, say), quickly panning down a number of lines? The display 
may then ‘catch up’ with your panning, going down by itself but allowing you to 
read with more consistency. (I know that this is the case on screens which also 
have pictures: I’ve a Focus14 Blue, which sometimes can’t go fast enough 
through the screen; so I found that doing the above helped me read the braille 
faster.) That may not be your problem exactly, but could give you some ideas 
for further experimentation. 

From: Keith Bundy 
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 4:07 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Question About Bible Reading With Braille Display
Hello, all. I am experiencing a rather embarrassing problem. When trying to 
read from the Bible aloud at church, I am finding that there seems to be no 
current solution that keeps me from stumbling in my reading.


Let me briefly explain the situation. I am an excellent Braille reader using a 
Brailliant display with IOS 9.3. I have the Bible from Life Church and have 
tried reading from it. What I find is that often, there are only two or three 
Braille words on a line, and sometimes only one word, which means that I have 
to hit the panning button again and this makes me read rather awkwardly. I had 
a sighted friend check yesterday, and the screen has a full line of text. Yet, 
whether using Braille or just flicking right with VoiceOver, often there are 
only one or two words that appear.


I have tried downloading Bibles from Bookshare, but they all seem to have 
footnote indicators or the footnotes themselves, which again makes my reading 
very choppy. I have a Bible from IBooks, but it takes forever to load this and 
to search on my iPhone 6 with 16 gb.


What I am looking for is a simple way to read the Bible aloud from Braille 
where the line is full except for when there are paragraph changes. Does anyone 
have any ideas? Thanks for any help you can give.


Keith




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Re: Question About Bible Reading With Braille Display

[Keith B.]

Hi, Sandi. I look forward to getting my hands on one of these displays. It will 
give much greater convenience, especially if it works with a screen reader and 
is mobile. I'm a little disappointed about the Braille Kindle thing being more 
of a desktop machine and not working with a screen reader, but, hey, we're 
making progress at least! 

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Re: Question About Bible Reading With Braille Display

[Mary Otten]

Regarding that first one, the so-called braille Kindle, forget that for mobile 
use. I just heard an update about that, an interview on blind bargains audio. 
It's going to be big something you would use on a desktop. And it's not really 
made for use with a screen reader either. So, won't be any good for what you 
are talking about.
Mary


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> On Mar 25, 2016, at 9:20 AM, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Keith,
> Not an answer for the immediate future, but later this year, if all promises 
> prove true, we should have a choice between at least two different full-page 
> refreshable braille displays.The first one is from M I T University (I think 
> I have that right) which they are calling a kind of braille kindle. The 
> second is called BLtab. both claim that their products will be much cheaper 
> than existing Braille displays. I have been following the quest for the holy 
> Braille for some years now, but, finally, I think we might actually have got 
> there! so, watch this space!
> Good luck, Sandy
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 25 Mar 2016, at 16:07, Keith Bundy  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, all. I am experiencing a rather embarrassing problem. When trying to 
>> read from the Bible aloud at church, I am finding that there seems to be no 
>> current solution that keeps me from stumbling in my reading.
>> 
>> Let me briefly explain the situation. I am an excellent Braille reader using 
>> a Brailliant display with IOS 9.3. I have the Bible from Life Church and 
>> have tried reading from it. What I find is that often, there are only two or 
>> three Braille words on a line, and sometimes only one word, which means that 
>> I have to hit the panning button again and this makes me read rather 
>> awkwardly. I had a sighted friend check yesterday, and the screen has a full 
>> line of text. Yet, whether using Braille or just flicking right with 
>> VoiceOver, often there are only one or two words that appear.
>> 
>> I have tried downloading Bibles from Bookshare, but they all seem to have 
>> footnote indicators or the footnotes themselves, which again makes my 
>> reading very choppy. I have a Bible from IBooks, but it takes forever to 
>> load this and to search on my iPhone 6 with 16 gb.
>> 
>> What I am looking for is a simple way to read the Bible aloud from Braille 
>> where the line is full except for when there are paragraph changes. Does 
>> anyone have any ideas? Thanks for any help you can give.
>> 
>> Keith
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Question About Bible Reading With Braille Display

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Keith,
Not an answer for the immediate future, but later this year, if all promises 
prove true, we should have a choice between at least two different full-page 
refreshable braille displays.The first one is from M I T University (I think I 
have that right) which they are calling a kind of braille kindle. The second is 
called BLtab. both claim that their products will be much cheaper than existing 
Braille displays. I have been following the quest for the holy Braille for some 
years now, but, finally, I think we might actually have got there! so, watch 
this space!
Good luck, Sandy



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> On 25 Mar 2016, at 16:07, Keith Bundy  wrote:
> 
> Hello, all. I am experiencing a rather embarrassing problem. When trying to 
> read from the Bible aloud at church, I am finding that there seems to be no 
> current solution that keeps me from stumbling in my reading.
> 
> Let me briefly explain the situation. I am an excellent Braille reader using 
> a Brailliant display with IOS 9.3. I have the Bible from Life Church and have 
> tried reading from it. What I find is that often, there are only two or three 
> Braille words on a line, and sometimes only one word, which means that I have 
> to hit the panning button again and this makes me read rather awkwardly. I 
> had a sighted friend check yesterday, and the screen has a full line of text. 
> Yet, whether using Braille or just flicking right with VoiceOver, often there 
> are only one or two words that appear.
> 
> I have tried downloading Bibles from Bookshare, but they all seem to have 
> footnote indicators or the footnotes themselves, which again makes my reading 
> very choppy. I have a Bible from IBooks, but it takes forever to load this 
> and to search on my iPhone 6 with 16 gb.
> 
> What I am looking for is a simple way to read the Bible aloud from Braille 
> where the line is full except for when there are paragraph changes. Does 
> anyone have any ideas? Thanks for any help you can give.
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
> 
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