Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe KNFB Reader

2015-01-03 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
OK, didn't take it in properly - again!  Very sorry but thanks for your 
correction.


Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book 
WithThe KNFB Reader



I read Mary's message to say there was an update of Kurzweil 1000 and
not the KNFB Reader app.

On 01/03/2015 11:56 AM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:

HMM!
Don't see an update here in the UK.
Will go on looking ...
Carol P

- Original Message -
*From:* Eileen Misrahi <mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, January 03, 2015 1:20 AM
*Subject:* Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback
Book WithThe KNFB Reader

Thanks for mentioning the release of the Kurzweil software. I will
have to review the new features before making a decision to get the
update. When I have a little more time, I'll check out the
alternative book sources to see if I can get an electronic version.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 2, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Eileen, I really second what Richard said about finding a
Kindle edition. Or perhaps a book share addition. It's great to
have hardcopy books if you have an a vision to see the pictures or
whatever. But my life has been made so much easier since I started
getting cookbooks in electronic versions. I have had Kurzweil 1000
for years, and I love it. But there are limits. Good luck with it.
By the way there is a new version of Kurzweil just out.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 2, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Eileen Misrahi
mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello All,

My question to you Sandy is: What is a Theromix? I am waiting for
the update to complete for JAWS 16. I will then look at both
programs; Kurzweil 1000 and OpenBook 9 to see which I will scan
the book into. I also do have Fine Reader Pro on theMac, but I'm
more familiar with the PC side for text-to-speech software and
have extensive experience with them to push the software to their
limits. What I don't like with these apps is the fact that when I
save the file in a DOC or DOCX format, I lose some of the format
of the document. I really need to scan a recipe with KNFB Reader.
I only got to the beginning of the book, so no recipes were
actually scanned with the app. I will not pull the book apart for
a better scan of it.That I do know. Thanks again for all the
suggestions. I'll keep all posted on which method I use to scan
this large book.

Eileen
On Jan 2, 2015, at 5:55 AM, Joanne Chua mailto:shuang.an...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Sandra and all

Thanks Sandra for the post. Now you are giving me ideas. Maybe,
i do find reasons to get KNFBReader after all. I have a bunch of
Thermomix Books that sitting on the shell collecting dusts and
also hips of fictions and non-fiction books that are rare,
either they are from Independent publishers or they are what
i'll call "festival authors that can't necesarry get it in the
main stream market.
Maybe, i can make good use on KNFBReader with these books after 
all.

I just, need to compile list of reasons to convince myself that
i do need the KNFB Reader. I have been an iphone user for the
last 5 years, and i have never pay for any app that is over
$5... grins.


Thanks for the idea.


Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
Send from my iPad

On 2 Jan 2015, at 21:32, Sandratomkins
mailto:sandratomk...@googlemail.com>> wrote:


Eileen,
This is serendipitous as I have just started to scan some
cookery books myself.now, although K n FB is a very good app
the requirements for scanning recipes requires complete
precision.even when using my stand scan pro I find there will
be the odd error.these errors are so slight that if I was
scanning fiction, for example, they wouldn't matter, but with
recipes…so, I decided to bite the bullet and ask my partner to
use his flat bed scanner and PC to create PDF files.he then can
pass those files over to me and KN FB will digitise them.I
should mention that I no longer have a PC or laptop or my own
flat bed scanner. his PC/laptop are barred to me!neither does
he have any screen readers on them.don't I sound
pitiable?however, this was my choice: having decided that I
would never, never pay the extortionate rates that the adaptive
software was asking of me again.I know there are programs such
as NVD a et cetera which I could now use, but when I 

Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe KNFB Reader

2015-01-03 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I read Mary's message to say there was an update of Kurzweil 1000 and 
not the KNFB Reader app.


On 01/03/2015 11:56 AM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:

HMM!
Don't see an update here in the UK.
Will go on looking ...
Carol P

- Original Message -
*From:* Eileen Misrahi <mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, January 03, 2015 1:20 AM
*Subject:* Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback
Book WithThe KNFB Reader

Thanks for mentioning the release of the Kurzweil software. I will
have to review the new features before making a decision to get the
update. When I have a little more time, I'll check out the
alternative book sources to see if I can get an electronic version.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 2, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Eileen, I really second what Richard said about finding a
Kindle edition. Or perhaps a book share addition. It's great to
have hardcopy books if you have an a vision to see the pictures or
whatever. But my life has been made so much easier since I started
getting cookbooks in electronic versions. I have had Kurzweil 1000
for years, and I love it. But there are limits. Good luck with it.
By the way there is a new version of Kurzweil just out.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 2, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Eileen Misrahi
mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello All,

My question to you Sandy is: What is a Theromix? I am waiting for
the update to complete for JAWS 16. I will then look at both
programs; Kurzweil 1000 and OpenBook 9 to see which I will scan
the book into. I also do have Fine Reader Pro on theMac, but I'm
more familiar with the PC side for text-to-speech software and
have extensive experience with them to push the software to their
limits. What I don't like with these apps is the fact that when I
save the file in a DOC or DOCX format, I lose some of the format
of the document. I really need to scan a recipe with KNFB Reader.
I only got to the beginning of the book, so no recipes were
actually scanned with the app. I will not pull the book apart for
a better scan of it.That I do know. Thanks again for all the
suggestions. I'll keep all posted on which method I use to scan
this large book.

Eileen
On Jan 2, 2015, at 5:55 AM, Joanne Chua mailto:shuang.an...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Sandra and all

Thanks Sandra for the post. Now you are giving me ideas. Maybe,
i do find reasons to get KNFBReader after all. I have a bunch of
Thermomix Books that sitting on the shell collecting dusts and
also hips of fictions and non-fiction books that are rare,
either they are from Independent publishers or they are what
i'll call "festival authors that can't necesarry get it in the
main stream market.
Maybe, i can make good use on KNFBReader with these books after all.
I just, need to compile list of reasons to convince myself that
i do need the KNFB Reader. I have been an iphone user for the
last 5 years, and i have never pay for any app that is over
$5... grins.


Thanks for the idea.


Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
Send from my iPad

On 2 Jan 2015, at 21:32, Sandratomkins
mailto:sandratomk...@googlemail.com>> wrote:


Eileen,
This is serendipitous as I have just started to scan some
cookery books myself.now, although K n FB is a very good app
the requirements for scanning recipes requires complete
precision.even when using my stand scan pro I find there will
be the odd error.these errors are so slight that if I was
scanning fiction, for example, they wouldn't matter, but with
recipes…so, I decided to bite the bullet and ask my partner to
use his flat bed scanner and PC to create PDF files.he then can
pass those files over to me and KN FB will digitise them.I
should mention that I no longer have a PC or laptop or my own
flat bed scanner. his PC/laptop are barred to me!neither does
he have any screen readers on them.don't I sound
pitiable?however, this was my choice: having decided that I
would never, never pay the extortionate rates that the adaptive
software was asking of me again.I know there are programs such
as NVD a et cetera which I could now use, but when I decided to
give up my laptop this wasn't really a viable option.Plus, I
wanted to push my iPhone to its limit.so, in short, if you can
obtain PDF files, you can use the KFFB reader to OCR them for
you.I don't suppose your cookery books are for a Thermomix are
they?this is my latest indulg

Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe KNFB Reader

2015-01-03 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
HMM!

Don't see an update here in the UK.

Will go on looking ...

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Eileen Misrahi 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 1:20 AM
  Subject: Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book 
WithThe KNFB Reader


  Thanks for mentioning the release of the Kurzweil software. I will have to 
review the new features before making a decision to get the update. When I have 
a little more time, I'll check out the alternative book sources to see if I can 
get an electronic version. 


  Eileen

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 2, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


Hi Eileen, I really second what Richard said about finding a Kindle 
edition. Or perhaps a book share addition. It's great to have hardcopy books if 
you have an a vision to see the pictures or whatever. But my life has been made 
so much easier since I started getting cookbooks in electronic versions. I have 
had Kurzweil 1000 for years, and I love it. But there are limits. Good luck 
with it. By the way there is a new version of Kurzweil just out.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 2, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Eileen Misrahi  
wrote:


  Hello All, 


  My question to you Sandy is: What is a Theromix? I am waiting for the 
update to complete for JAWS 16. I will then look at both programs; Kurzweil 
1000 and OpenBook 9 to see which I will scan the book into. I also do have Fine 
Reader Pro on theMac, but I'm more familiar with the PC side for text-to-speech 
software and have extensive experience with them to push the software to their 
limits. What I don't like with these apps is the fact that when I save the file 
in a DOC or DOCX format, I lose some of the format of the document. I really 
need to scan a recipe with KNFB Reader. I only got to the beginning of the 
book, so no recipes were actually scanned with the app. I will not pull the 
book apart for a better scan of it.That I do know. Thanks again for all the 
suggestions. I'll keep all posted on which method I use to scan this large book.


  Eileen 

  On Jan 2, 2015, at 5:55 AM, Joanne Chua  wrote:


Hi Sandra and all


Thanks Sandra for the post. Now you are giving me ideas. Maybe, i do 
find reasons to get KNFBReader after all. I have a bunch of Thermomix Books 
that sitting on the shell collecting dusts and also hips of fictions and 
non-fiction books that are rare, either they are from Independent publishers or 
they are what i'll call "festival authors that can't necesarry get it in the 
main stream market.
Maybe, i can make good use on KNFBReader with these books after all.
I just, need to compile list of reasons to convince myself that i do 
need the KNFB Reader. I have been an iphone user for the last 5 years, and i 
have never pay for any app that is over $5... grins.




Thanks for the idea.



Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
Send from my iPad

On 2 Jan 2015, at 21:32, Sandratomkins  
wrote:


  Eileen,
  This is serendipitous as I have just started to scan some cookery 
books myself.now, although K n FB is a very good app the requirements for 
scanning recipes requires complete precision.even when using my stand scan pro 
I find there will be the odd error.these errors are so slight that if I was 
scanning fiction, for example, they wouldn't matter, but with recipes…so, I 
decided to bite the bullet and ask my partner to use his flat bed scanner and 
PC to create PDF files.he then can pass those files over to me and KN FB will 
digitise them.I should mention that I no longer have a PC or laptop or my own 
flat bed scanner. his PC/laptop are barred to me!neither does he have any 
screen readers on them.don't I sound pitiable?however, this was my choice: 
having decided that I would never, never pay the extortionate rates that the 
adaptive software was asking of me again.I know there are programs such as NVD 
a et cetera which I could now use, but when I decided to give up my laptop this 
wasn't really a viable option.Plus, I wanted to push my iPhone to its limit.so, 
in short, if you can obtain PDF files, you can use the KFFB reader to OCR them 
for you.I don't suppose your cookery books are for a Thermomix are they?this is 
my latest indulgence and has turned me from  an appalling cook into really 
quite a good one!unfortunately, all the recipe books for the Thermomix do not 
exist in E format.good luck to you and happy cooking!


  Sandy

  Sent from my iPhone

  On 1 Jan 2015, at 20:16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Hi Richard,



I agree that while KNFB Reader is an awesome app, there are 
projects where a scanner solution is better just as you’d rent a moving truck 
if you want to move rather than mak

Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe KNFB Reader

2015-01-03 Thread Sandratomkins
Siegard,

Firstly, please excuse my typing, Siri is not working for me, and so I 
hagve been reduced to the keyboard, but the phone is misbehaving, not allowing 
me to edit, and talking over the top of my typing. A Thermomix is a fabulous 
madhine, and, indeed, you dcan find one in most Italian houses, it is also big 
in Australia. I know this is off topic for the list, but I am allowing myself a 
bit of post Xmas advertising, as I reckon that this machine, which has turned 
me into a gourmet cook. And, I was awful before.

As for the recipes, yes, they are on the website, but that is a bit like 
saying, here is the ook, isn't that enough? I am trying out Indian cuisine at 
the moment, and want the original recipes.

Kitchen Goddess, Sandy. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Jan 2015, at 03:00, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Eileen,
>  
> I was curious about Thermomix as well, but while scanning with KNFB Reader is 
> very much on topic, I just used Google and searched for “Thermomix” since I 
> felt a cooking gadget was hardly on topic for the Viphone list. If you Google 
> Thermomix you’ll find plenty of results as well as their website. As I said, 
> it is a cooking gadget or whatever you want to call it, but when I see stuff 
> like that especially if it’s been around for decades as seems to be the case 
> with this, I always wonder why it’s not available in every store and used by 
> every household if it’s so great. Only big thing it has going for itself 
> seems to be that its German and I can say from my own experience that “Made 
> in Germany” is definitely a good thing *smile*
>  
> Just as a last comment, on their website it did say something about all their 
> recipes being available somehow via the website. So, Sandy, have you checked 
> if you can access the recipes that way?
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Eileen Misrahi
> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 12:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book 
> WithThe KNFB Reader
>  
> Hello All, 
>  
> My question to you Sandy is: What is a Theromix? I am waiting for the update 
> to complete for JAWS 16. I will then look at both programs; Kurzweil 1000 and 
> OpenBook 9 to see which I will scan the book into. I also do have Fine Reader 
> Pro on theMac, but I'm more familiar with the PC side for text-to-speech 
> software and have extensive experience with them to push the software to 
> their limits. What I don't like with these apps is the fact that when I save 
> the file in a DOC or DOCX format, I lose some of the format of the document. 
> I really need to scan a recipe with KNFB Reader. I only got to the beginning 
> of the book, so no recipes were actually scanned with the app. I will not 
> pull the book apart for a better scan of it.That I do know. Thanks again for 
> all the suggestions. I'll keep all posted on which method I use to scan this 
> large book.
>  
> Eileen 
> On Jan 2, 2015, at 5:55 AM, Joanne Chua  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Sandra and all
>  
> Thanks Sandra for the post. Now you are giving me ideas. Maybe, i do find 
> reasons to get KNFBReader after all. I have a bunch of Thermomix Books that 
> sitting on the shell collecting dusts and also hips of fictions and 
> non-fiction books that are rare, either they are from Independent publishers 
> or they are what i'll call "festival authors that can't necesarry get it in 
> the main stream market.
> Maybe, i can make good use on KNFBReader with these books after all.
> I just, need to compile list of reasons to convince myself that i do need the 
> KNFB Reader. I have been an iphone user for the last 5 years, and i have 
> never pay for any app that is over $5... grins.
>  
>  
> Thanks for the idea.
>  
> 
> Joanne Chua
> The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
> Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
> Send from my iPad
> 
> On 2 Jan 2015, at 21:32, Sandratomkins  wrote:
> 
> Eileen,
> This is serendipitous as I have just started to scan some cookery books 
> myself.now, although K n FB is a very good app the requirements for scanning 
> recipes requires complete precision.even when using my stand scan pro I find 
> there will be the odd error.these errors are so slight that if I was scanning 
> fiction, for example, they wouldn't matter, but with recipes…so, I decided to 
> bite the bullet and ask my partner to use his flat bed scanner and PC to 
> create PDF files.he then can pass those files over to me and KN FB will 
> digitise them.I should mention that I no longer have a PC or laptop or my own 
> flat bed scanner. his PC/laptop 

Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe KNFB Reader

2015-01-03 Thread Sandratomkins
 
>>>> to move rather than making 20 trips with the car. The ideal solution would 
>>>> be to have a scanner with automatic document feeder and to destroy the 
>>>> book so you can just run the pages through the scanner. I have a Fujitsu 
>>>> Scansnap IX500 and while it would only scan to PDF, it is so super blazing 
>>>> fast and does automatic souble sided scanning. If I had a paperback book 
>>>> with 300 pages I could probably scan that with that scanner in about 5 
>>>> minutes and then just use Openbook to recognize the single PDF file. I 
>>>> guess now that Jaws does OCR on entire PDF documents you could even open 
>>>> the PDF in Adobe Reader and tell Jaws to do the OCR. It would be 
>>>> interesting to see if that works.
>>>>  
>>>> What is the book you are trying to scan, Eileen?
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Sieghard
>>>>  
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 12:07 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book 
>>>> WithThe KNFB Reader
>>>>  
>>>> I'd recommend waiting until the next update comes out that should include 
>>>> retaining the format of the page.
>>>> The standscan might be the best choice of stands to attempt this, but in 
>>>> reality, I'd recommend using a computer with OpenBook or Kurzweil software 
>>>> for that size project.
>>>> If you have a Bookshare membership, you could request that book and even 
>>>> offer to send the print copy to a volunteer willing to to scan the book ...
>>>> Good luck,
>>>> Richard
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
>>>> 
>>>> Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 1, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Eileen Misrahi  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> 
>>>> I have just purchased a 300 plus paperback cookbook, with the page size 
>>>> approximately 8 X 11.5. I am using an iPhone6 with iOS 8.1 with the KNFB 
>>>> Reader. I'm wondering if others have scanned a book of this size and what 
>>>> they used to hold down the pages that does not have a large amount of 
>>>> pages to weight down the side. I tried a stmall weighted object, but 
>>>> that's not to really doing the trick. Any other suggestions. Has anyone 
>>>> tried the KNFB Reader with any of the stands or mounts? I would love to 
>>>> hear their experiences. I will set up the StandScan Pro after posting this 
>>>> and see how this may assist me in accomplishing this activity. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance for your help in this matter.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Eileen 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe KNFB Reader

2015-01-02 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Eileen,

 

I was curious about Thermomix as well, but while scanning with KNFB Reader is 
very much on topic, I just used Google and searched for “Thermomix” since I 
felt a cooking gadget was hardly on topic for the Viphone list. If you Google 
Thermomix you’ll find plenty of results as well as their website. As I said, it 
is a cooking gadget or whatever you want to call it, but when I see stuff like 
that especially if it’s been around for decades as seems to be the case with 
this, I always wonder why it’s not available in every store and used by every 
household if it’s so great. Only big thing it has going for itself seems to be 
that its German and I can say from my own experience that “Made in Germany” is 
definitely a good thing *smile*

 

Just as a last comment, on their website it did say something about all their 
recipes being available somehow via the website. So, Sandy, have you checked if 
you can access the recipes that way?

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eileen Misrahi
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 12:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe 
KNFB Reader

 

Hello All, 

 

My question to you Sandy is: What is a Theromix? I am waiting for the update to 
complete for JAWS 16. I will then look at both programs; Kurzweil 1000 and 
OpenBook 9 to see which I will scan the book into. I also do have Fine Reader 
Pro on theMac, but I'm more familiar with the PC side for text-to-speech 
software and have extensive experience with them to push the software to their 
limits. What I don't like with these apps is the fact that when I save the file 
in a DOC or DOCX format, I lose some of the format of the document. I really 
need to scan a recipe with KNFB Reader. I only got to the beginning of the 
book, so no recipes were actually scanned with the app. I will not pull the 
book apart for a better scan of it.That I do know. Thanks again for all the 
suggestions. I'll keep all posted on which method I use to scan this large book.

 

Eileen 

On Jan 2, 2015, at 5:55 AM, Joanne Chua mailto:shuang.an...@gmail.com> > wrote:





Hi Sandra and all

 

Thanks Sandra for the post. Now you are giving me ideas. Maybe, i do find 
reasons to get KNFBReader after all. I have a bunch of Thermomix Books that 
sitting on the shell collecting dusts and also hips of fictions and non-fiction 
books that are rare, either they are from Independent publishers or they are 
what i'll call "festival authors that can't necesarry get it in the main stream 
market.

Maybe, i can make good use on KNFBReader with these books after all.

I just, need to compile list of reasons to convince myself that i do need the 
KNFB Reader. I have been an iphone user for the last 5 years, and i have never 
pay for any app that is over $5... grins.

 

 

Thanks for the idea.

 

Joanne Chua

The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.

Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate

Send from my iPad


On 2 Jan 2015, at 21:32, Sandratomkins mailto:sandratomk...@googlemail.com> > wrote:

Eileen,

This is serendipitous as I have just started to scan some cookery books 
myself.now, although K n FB is a very good app the requirements for scanning 
recipes requires complete precision.even when using my stand scan pro I find 
there will be the odd error.these errors are so slight that if I was scanning 
fiction, for example, they wouldn't matter, but with recipes…so, I decided to 
bite the bullet and ask my partner to use his flat bed scanner and PC to create 
PDF files.he then can pass those files over to me and KN FB will digitise 
them.I should mention that I no longer have a PC or laptop or my own flat bed 
scanner. his PC/laptop are barred to me!neither does he have any screen readers 
on them.don't I sound pitiable?however, this was my choice: having decided that 
I would never, never pay the extortionate rates that the adaptive software was 
asking of me again.I know there are programs such as NVD a et cetera which I 
could now use, but when I decided to give up my laptop this wasn't really a 
viable option.Plus, I wanted to push my iPhone to its limit.so, in short, if 
you can obtain PDF files, you can use the KFFB reader to OCR them for you.I 
don't suppose your cookery books are for a Thermomix are they?this is my latest 
indulgence and has turned me from  an appalling cook into really quite a good 
one!unfortunately, all the recipe books for the Thermomix do not exist in E 
format.good luck to you and happy cooking!

 

Sandy


Sent from my iPhone


On 1 Jan 2015, at 20:16, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

Hi Richard,

 

I agree that while KNFB Reader is an awesome app, there are projects where a 
scanner solution is better just as you’d rent a moving truck if you want to 
move rather than making 20 tri

Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe KNFB Reader

2015-01-02 Thread Eileen Misrahi
eally quite a good one!unfortunately, all the recipe books for the 
>>>> Thermomix do not exist in E format.good luck to you and happy cooking!
>>>> 
>>>> Sandy
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1 Jan 2015, at 20:16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Richard,
>>>>>  
>>>>> I agree that while KNFB Reader is an awesome app, there are projects 
>>>>> where a scanner solution is better just as you’d rent a moving truck if 
>>>>> you want to move rather than making 20 trips with the car. The ideal 
>>>>> solution would be to have a scanner with automatic document feeder and to 
>>>>> destroy the book so you can just run the pages through the scanner. I 
>>>>> have a Fujitsu Scansnap IX500 and while it would only scan to PDF, it is 
>>>>> so super blazing fast and does automatic souble sided scanning. If I had 
>>>>> a paperback book with 300 pages I could probably scan that with that 
>>>>> scanner in about 5 minutes and then just use Openbook to recognize the 
>>>>> single PDF file. I guess now that Jaws does OCR on entire PDF documents 
>>>>> you could even open the PDF in Adobe Reader and tell Jaws to do the OCR. 
>>>>> It would be interesting to see if that works.
>>>>>  
>>>>> What is the book you are trying to scan, Eileen?
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 12:07 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book 
>>>>> WithThe KNFB Reader
>>>>>  
>>>>> I'd recommend waiting until the next update comes out that should include 
>>>>> retaining the format of the page.
>>>>> The standscan might be the best choice of stands to attempt this, but in 
>>>>> reality, I'd recommend using a computer with OpenBook or Kurzweil 
>>>>> software for that size project.
>>>>> If you have a Bookshare membership, you could request that book and even 
>>>>> offer to send the print copy to a volunteer willing to to scan the book 
>>>>> ...
>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>> Richard
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 1, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Eileen Misrahi  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have just purchased a 300 plus paperback cookbook, with the page size 
>>>>> approximately 8 X 11.5. I am using an iPhone6 with iOS 8.1 with the KNFB 
>>>>> Reader. I'm wondering if others have scanned a book of this size and what 
>>>>> they used to hold down the pages that does not have a large amount of 
>>>>> pages to weight down the side. I tried a stmall weighted object, but 
>>>>> that's not to really doing the trick. Any other suggestions. Has anyone 
>>>>> tried the KNFB Reader with any of the stands or mounts? I would love to 
>>>>> hear their experiences. I will set up the StandScan Pro after posting 
>>>>> this and see how this may assist me in accomplishing this activity. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks in advance for your help in this matter.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Eileen 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
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Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe KNFB Reader

2015-01-02 Thread Mary Otten
 scanner with automatic document feeder and to destroy the 
>>>> book so you can just run the pages through the scanner. I have a Fujitsu 
>>>> Scansnap IX500 and while it would only scan to PDF, it is so super blazing 
>>>> fast and does automatic souble sided scanning. If I had a paperback book 
>>>> with 300 pages I could probably scan that with that scanner in about 5 
>>>> minutes and then just use Openbook to recognize the single PDF file. I 
>>>> guess now that Jaws does OCR on entire PDF documents you could even open 
>>>> the PDF in Adobe Reader and tell Jaws to do the OCR. It would be 
>>>> interesting to see if that works.
>>>>  
>>>> What is the book you are trying to scan, Eileen?
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Sieghard
>>>>  
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 12:07 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book 
>>>> WithThe KNFB Reader
>>>>  
>>>> I'd recommend waiting until the next update comes out that should include 
>>>> retaining the format of the page.
>>>> The standscan might be the best choice of stands to attempt this, but in 
>>>> reality, I'd recommend using a computer with OpenBook or Kurzweil software 
>>>> for that size project.
>>>> If you have a Bookshare membership, you could request that book and even 
>>>> offer to send the print copy to a volunteer willing to to scan the book ...
>>>> Good luck,
>>>> Richard
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
>>>> 
>>>> Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 1, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Eileen Misrahi  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> 
>>>> I have just purchased a 300 plus paperback cookbook, with the page size 
>>>> approximately 8 X 11.5. I am using an iPhone6 with iOS 8.1 with the KNFB 
>>>> Reader. I'm wondering if others have scanned a book of this size and what 
>>>> they used to hold down the pages that does not have a large amount of 
>>>> pages to weight down the side. I tried a stmall weighted object, but 
>>>> that's not to really doing the trick. Any other suggestions. Has anyone 
>>>> tried the KNFB Reader with any of the stands or mounts? I would love to 
>>>> hear their experiences. I will set up the StandScan Pro after posting this 
>>>> and see how this may assist me in accomplishing this activity. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance for your help in this matter.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Eileen 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
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Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe KNFB Reader

2015-01-02 Thread Richard Turner
ded that I would 
>>>>> never, never pay the extortionate rates that the adaptive software was 
>>>>> asking of me again.I know there are programs such as NVD a et cetera 
>>>>> which I could now use, but when I decided to give up my laptop this 
>>>>> wasn't really a viable option.Plus, I wanted to push my iPhone to its 
>>>>> limit.so, in short, if you can obtain PDF files, you can use the KFFB 
>>>>> reader to OCR them for you.I don't suppose your cookery books are for a 
>>>>> Thermomix are they?this is my latest indulgence and has turned me from  
>>>>> an appalling cook into really quite a good one!unfortunately, all the 
>>>>> recipe books for the Thermomix do not exist in E format.good luck to you 
>>>>> and happy cooking!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sandy
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1 Jan 2015, at 20:16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Richard,
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I agree that while KNFB Reader is an awesome app, there are projects 
>>>>>> where a scanner solution is better just as you’d rent a moving truck if 
>>>>>> you want to move rather than making 20 trips with the car. The ideal 
>>>>>> solution would be to have a scanner with automatic document feeder and 
>>>>>> to destroy the book so you can just run the pages through the scanner. I 
>>>>>> have a Fujitsu Scansnap IX500 and while it would only scan to PDF, it is 
>>>>>> so super blazing fast and does automatic souble sided scanning. If I had 
>>>>>> a paperback book with 300 pages I could probably scan that with that 
>>>>>> scanner in about 5 minutes and then just use Openbook to recognize the 
>>>>>> single PDF file. I guess now that Jaws does OCR on entire PDF documents 
>>>>>> you could even open the PDF in Adobe Reader and tell Jaws to do the OCR. 
>>>>>> It would be interesting to see if that works.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> What is the book you are trying to scan, Eileen?
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 12:07 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book 
>>>>>> WithThe KNFB Reader
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I'd recommend waiting until the next update comes out that should 
>>>>>> include retaining the format of the page.
>>>>>> The standscan might be the best choice of stands to attempt this, but in 
>>>>>> reality, I'd recommend using a computer with OpenBook or Kurzweil 
>>>>>> software for that size project.
>>>>>> If you have a Bookshare membership, you could request that book and even 
>>>>>> offer to send the print copy to a volunteer willing to to scan the book 
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 1, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Eileen Misrahi  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have just purchased a 300 plus paperback cookbook, with the page size 
>>>>>> approximately 8 X 11.5. I am using an iPhone6 with iOS 8.1 with the KNFB 
>>>>>> Reader. I'm wondering if others have scanned a book of this size and 
>>>>>> what they used to hold down the pages that does not have a large amount 
>>>>>> of pages to weight down the side. I tried a stmall weighted object, but 
>>>>>> that's not to really doing the trick. Any othe

Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe KNFB Reader

2015-01-02 Thread Eileen Misrahi
happy cooking!
>>>> 
>>>> Sandy
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1 Jan 2015, at 20:16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Richard,
>>>>>  
>>>>> I agree that while KNFB Reader is an awesome app, there are projects 
>>>>> where a scanner solution is better just as you’d rent a moving truck if 
>>>>> you want to move rather than making 20 trips with the car. The ideal 
>>>>> solution would be to have a scanner with automatic document feeder and to 
>>>>> destroy the book so you can just run the pages through the scanner. I 
>>>>> have a Fujitsu Scansnap IX500 and while it would only scan to PDF, it is 
>>>>> so super blazing fast and does automatic souble sided scanning. If I had 
>>>>> a paperback book with 300 pages I could probably scan that with that 
>>>>> scanner in about 5 minutes and then just use Openbook to recognize the 
>>>>> single PDF file. I guess now that Jaws does OCR on entire PDF documents 
>>>>> you could even open the PDF in Adobe Reader and tell Jaws to do the OCR. 
>>>>> It would be interesting to see if that works.
>>>>>  
>>>>> What is the book you are trying to scan, Eileen?
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 12:07 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book 
>>>>> WithThe KNFB Reader
>>>>>  
>>>>> I'd recommend waiting until the next update comes out that should include 
>>>>> retaining the format of the page.
>>>>> The standscan might be the best choice of stands to attempt this, but in 
>>>>> reality, I'd recommend using a computer with OpenBook or Kurzweil 
>>>>> software for that size project.
>>>>> If you have a Bookshare membership, you could request that book and even 
>>>>> offer to send the print copy to a volunteer willing to to scan the book 
>>>>> ...
>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>> Richard
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 1, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Eileen Misrahi  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have just purchased a 300 plus paperback cookbook, with the page size 
>>>>> approximately 8 X 11.5. I am using an iPhone6 with iOS 8.1 with the KNFB 
>>>>> Reader. I'm wondering if others have scanned a book of this size and what 
>>>>> they used to hold down the pages that does not have a large amount of 
>>>>> pages to weight down the side. I tried a stmall weighted object, but 
>>>>> that's not to really doing the trick. Any other suggestions. Has anyone 
>>>>> tried the KNFB Reader with any of the stands or mounts? I would love to 
>>>>> hear their experiences. I will set up the StandScan Pro after posting 
>>>>> this and see how this may assist me in accomplishing this activity. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks in advance for your help in this matter.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Eileen 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
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Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe KNFB Reader

2015-01-02 Thread Richard Turner
uper blazing 
>>>> fast and does automatic souble sided scanning. If I had a paperback book 
>>>> with 300 pages I could probably scan that with that scanner in about 5 
>>>> minutes and then just use Openbook to recognize the single PDF file. I 
>>>> guess now that Jaws does OCR on entire PDF documents you could even open 
>>>> the PDF in Adobe Reader and tell Jaws to do the OCR. It would be 
>>>> interesting to see if that works.
>>>>  
>>>> What is the book you are trying to scan, Eileen?
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Sieghard
>>>>  
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Richard Turner
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 12:07 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book 
>>>> WithThe KNFB Reader
>>>>  
>>>> I'd recommend waiting until the next update comes out that should include 
>>>> retaining the format of the page.
>>>> The standscan might be the best choice of stands to attempt this, but in 
>>>> reality, I'd recommend using a computer with OpenBook or Kurzweil software 
>>>> for that size project.
>>>> If you have a Bookshare membership, you could request that book and even 
>>>> offer to send the print copy to a volunteer willing to to scan the book ...
>>>> Good luck,
>>>> Richard
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
>>>> 
>>>> Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 1, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Eileen Misrahi  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> 
>>>> I have just purchased a 300 plus paperback cookbook, with the page size 
>>>> approximately 8 X 11.5. I am using an iPhone6 with iOS 8.1 with the KNFB 
>>>> Reader. I'm wondering if others have scanned a book of this size and what 
>>>> they used to hold down the pages that does not have a large amount of 
>>>> pages to weight down the side. I tried a stmall weighted object, but 
>>>> that's not to really doing the trick. Any other suggestions. Has anyone 
>>>> tried the KNFB Reader with any of the stands or mounts? I would love to 
>>>> hear their experiences. I will set up the StandScan Pro after posting this 
>>>> and see how this may assist me in accomplishing this activity. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance for your help in this matter.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Eileen 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
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Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe KNFB Reader

2015-01-02 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hello All, 

My question to you Sandy is: What is a Theromix? I am waiting for the update to 
complete for JAWS 16. I will then look at both programs; Kurzweil 1000 and 
OpenBook 9 to see which I will scan the book into. I also do have Fine Reader 
Pro on theMac, but I'm more familiar with the PC side for text-to-speech 
software and have extensive experience with them to push the software to their 
limits. What I don't like with these apps is the fact that when I save the file 
in a DOC or DOCX format, I lose some of the format of the document. I really 
need to scan a recipe with KNFB Reader. I only got to the beginning of the 
book, so no recipes were actually scanned with the app. I will not pull the 
book apart for a better scan of it.That I do know. Thanks again for all the 
suggestions. I'll keep all posted on which method I use to scan this large book.

Eileen 
On Jan 2, 2015, at 5:55 AM, Joanne Chua  wrote:

> Hi Sandra and all
> 
> Thanks Sandra for the post. Now you are giving me ideas. Maybe, i do find 
> reasons to get KNFBReader after all. I have a bunch of Thermomix Books that 
> sitting on the shell collecting dusts and also hips of fictions and 
> non-fiction books that are rare, either they are from Independent publishers 
> or they are what i'll call "festival authors that can't necesarry get it in 
> the main stream market.
> Maybe, i can make good use on KNFBReader with these books after all.
> I just, need to compile list of reasons to convince myself that i do need the 
> KNFB Reader. I have been an iphone user for the last 5 years, and i have 
> never pay for any app that is over $5... grins.
> 
> 
> Thanks for the idea.
> 
> 
> Joanne Chua
> The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
> Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
> Send from my iPad
> 
> On 2 Jan 2015, at 21:32, Sandratomkins  wrote:
> 
>> Eileen,
>> This is serendipitous as I have just started to scan some cookery books 
>> myself.now, although K n FB is a very good app the requirements for scanning 
>> recipes requires complete precision.even when using my stand scan pro I find 
>> there will be the odd error.these errors are so slight that if I was 
>> scanning fiction, for example, they wouldn't matter, but with recipes…so, I 
>> decided to bite the bullet and ask my partner to use his flat bed scanner 
>> and PC to create PDF files.he then can pass those files over to me and KN FB 
>> will digitise them.I should mention that I no longer have a PC or laptop or 
>> my own flat bed scanner. his PC/laptop are barred to me!neither does he have 
>> any screen readers on them.don't I sound pitiable?however, this was my 
>> choice: having decided that I would never, never pay the extortionate rates 
>> that the adaptive software was asking of me again.I know there are programs 
>> such as NVD a et cetera which I could now use, but when I decided to give up 
>> my laptop this wasn't really a viable option.Plus, I wanted to push my 
>> iPhone to its limit.so, in short, if you can obtain PDF files, you can use 
>> the KFFB reader to OCR them for you.I don't suppose your cookery books are 
>> for a Thermomix are they?this is my latest indulgence and has turned me from 
>>  an appalling cook into really quite a good one!unfortunately, all the 
>> recipe books for the Thermomix do not exist in E format.good luck to you and 
>> happy cooking!
>> 
>> Sandy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 1 Jan 2015, at 20:16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Richard,
>>>  
>>> I agree that while KNFB Reader is an awesome app, there are projects where 
>>> a scanner solution is better just as you’d rent a moving truck if you want 
>>> to move rather than making 20 trips with the car. The ideal solution would 
>>> be to have a scanner with automatic document feeder and to destroy the book 
>>> so you can just run the pages through the scanner. I have a Fujitsu 
>>> Scansnap IX500 and while it would only scan to PDF, it is so super blazing 
>>> fast and does automatic souble sided scanning. If I had a paperback book 
>>> with 300 pages I could probably scan that with that scanner in about 5 
>>> minutes and then just use Openbook to recognize the single PDF file. I 
>>> guess now that Jaws does OCR on entire PDF documents you could even open 
>>> the PDF in Adobe Reader and tell Jaws to do the OCR. It would be 
>>> interesting to see if that works.
>>>  
>>> What is the book you are trying to scan, Eileen?
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>  
>>> From: 

Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe KNFB Reader

2015-01-02 Thread Joanne Chua
Hi Sandra and all

Thanks Sandra for the post. Now you are giving me ideas. Maybe, i do find 
reasons to get KNFBReader after all. I have a bunch of Thermomix Books that 
sitting on the shell collecting dusts and also hips of fictions and non-fiction 
books that are rare, either they are from Independent publishers or they are 
what i'll call "festival authors that can't necesarry get it in the main stream 
market.
Maybe, i can make good use on KNFBReader with these books after all.
I just, need to compile list of reasons to convince myself that i do need the 
KNFB Reader. I have been an iphone user for the last 5 years, and i have never 
pay for any app that is over $5... grins.


Thanks for the idea.


Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
Send from my iPad

> On 2 Jan 2015, at 21:32, Sandratomkins  wrote:
> 
> Eileen,
> This is serendipitous as I have just started to scan some cookery books 
> myself.now, although K n FB is a very good app the requirements for scanning 
> recipes requires complete precision.even when using my stand scan pro I find 
> there will be the odd error.these errors are so slight that if I was scanning 
> fiction, for example, they wouldn't matter, but with recipes…so, I decided to 
> bite the bullet and ask my partner to use his flat bed scanner and PC to 
> create PDF files.he then can pass those files over to me and KN FB will 
> digitise them.I should mention that I no longer have a PC or laptop or my own 
> flat bed scanner. his PC/laptop are barred to me!neither does he have any 
> screen readers on them.don't I sound pitiable?however, this was my choice: 
> having decided that I would never, never pay the extortionate rates that the 
> adaptive software was asking of me again.I know there are programs such as 
> NVD a et cetera which I could now use, but when I decided to give up my 
> laptop this wasn't really a viable option.Plus, I wanted to push my iPhone to 
> its limit.so, in short, if you can obtain PDF files, you can use the KFFB 
> reader to OCR them for you.I don't suppose your cookery books are for a 
> Thermomix are they?this is my latest indulgence and has turned me from  an 
> appalling cook into really quite a good one!unfortunately, all the recipe 
> books for the Thermomix do not exist in E format.good luck to you and happy 
> cooking!
> 
> Sandy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 1 Jan 2015, at 20:16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>>  
>> I agree that while KNFB Reader is an awesome app, there are projects where a 
>> scanner solution is better just as you’d rent a moving truck if you want to 
>> move rather than making 20 trips with the car. The ideal solution would be 
>> to have a scanner with automatic document feeder and to destroy the book so 
>> you can just run the pages through the scanner. I have a Fujitsu Scansnap 
>> IX500 and while it would only scan to PDF, it is so super blazing fast and 
>> does automatic souble sided scanning. If I had a paperback book with 300 
>> pages I could probably scan that with that scanner in about 5 minutes and 
>> then just use Openbook to recognize the single PDF file. I guess now that 
>> Jaws does OCR on entire PDF documents you could even open the PDF in Adobe 
>> Reader and tell Jaws to do the OCR. It would be interesting to see if that 
>> works.
>>  
>> What is the book you are trying to scan, Eileen?
>>  
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 12:07 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book 
>> WithThe KNFB Reader
>>  
>> I'd recommend waiting until the next update comes out that should include 
>> retaining the format of the page.
>> The standscan might be the best choice of stands to attempt this, but in 
>> reality, I'd recommend using a computer with OpenBook or Kurzweil software 
>> for that size project.
>> If you have a Bookshare membership, you could request that book and even 
>> offer to send the print copy to a volunteer willing to to scan the book ...
>> Good luck,
>> Richard
>>  
>>  
>> Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
>> 
>> Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Jan 1, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I have just pur

Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe KNFB Reader

2015-01-02 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hello Sandy and Charles,

My Optibookk 360: no longer functions, which would have been my flatbed scanner 
of choice. It use to get such perfect scans, as there is a very narrow frame on 
the outer edge to scan the text near the spine of a book. I am left with my 
Brother all-in-one printer, which does an okay job on the text near the spine. 
I'll have to play with the 2 OCR text-to-speech sofftware programs to see which 
one will do a better job in the OCR of the cookbook. I also have a Pearl 
camera, but have always preferred to use the flatbed scanner for such projects 
as this. Thanks for the suggestions and I'll post when I'll get the results 
from whatever I decide to go with.

Best,
Eileen

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> On Jan 2, 2015, at 3:57 AM, Charles Rivard  wrote:
> 
> Just the thought of destroying a book makes me cringe.  For example, I would 
> never do this to a Bible.  Using a flat bed scanner, you can scan most books 
> without destruction.
> 
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> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 2:16 PM
> Subject: RE: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book 
> WithThe KNFB Reader
> 
> Hi Richard,
>  
> I agree that while KNFB Reader is an awesome app, there are projects where a 
> scanner solution is better just as you’d rent a moving truck if you want to 
> move rather than making 20 trips with the car. The ideal solution would be to 
>have a scanner with automatic document feeder and to destroy the book so 
> you can just run the pages through the scanner. I have a Fujitsu Scansnap 
> IX500 and while it would only scan to PDF, it is so super blazing fast and 
> does automatic souble sided scanning. If I had a paperback book with 300 
> pages I could probably scan that with that scanner in about 5 minutes and 
> then just use Openbook to recognize the single PDF file. I guess now that 
> Jaws does OCR on entire PDF documents you could even open the PDF in Adobe 
> Reader and tell Jaws to do the OCR. It would be interesting to see if that 
> works.
>  
> What is the book you are trying to scan, Eileen?
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 12:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book 
> WithThe KNFB Reader
>  
> I'd recommend waiting until the next update comes out that should include 
> retaining the format of the page.
> The standscan might be the best choice of stands to attempt this, but in 
> reality, I'd recommend using a computer with OpenBook or Kurzweil software 
> for that size project.
> If you have a Bookshare membership, you could request that book and even 
> offer to send the print copy to a volunteer willing to to scan the book ...
> Good luck,
> Richard
>  
>  
> Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
> 
> Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
> 
>  
> 
> On Jan 1, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have just purchased a 300 plus paperback cookbook, with the page size 
> approximately 8 X 11.5. I am using an iPhone6 with iOS 8.1 with the KNFB 
> Reader. I'm wondering if others have scanned a book of this size and what 
> they used to hold down the pages that does not have a large amount of pages 
> to weight down the side. I tried a stmall weighted object, but that's not to 
> really doing the trick. Any other suggestions. Has anyone tried the KNFB 
> Reader with any of the stands or mounts? I would love to hear their 
> experiences. I will set up the StandScan Pro after posting this and see how 
> this may assist me in accomplishing this activity. 
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help in this matter.
> 
> Best,
> Eileen 
> 
> 
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Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe KNFB Reader

2015-01-02 Thread Charles Rivard
Just the thought of destroying a book makes me cringe.  For example, I would 
never do this to a Bible.  Using a flat bed scanner, you can scan most books 
without destruction.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 2:16 PM
  Subject: RE: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book 
WithThe KNFB Reader


  Hi Richard,

   

  I agree that while KNFB Reader is an awesome app, there are projects where a 
scanner solution is better just as you’d rent a moving truck if you want to 
move rather than making 20 trips with the car. The ideal solution would be to 
have a scanner with automatic document feeder and to destroy the book so you 
can just run the pages through the scanner. I have a Fujitsu Scansnap IX500 and 
while it would only scan to PDF, it is so super blazing fast and does automatic 
souble sided scanning. If I had a paperback book with 300 pages I could 
probably scan that with that scanner in about 5 minutes and then just use 
Openbook to recognize the single PDF file. I guess now that Jaws does OCR on 
entire PDF documents you could even open the PDF in Adobe Reader and tell Jaws 
to do the OCR. It would be interesting to see if that works.

   

  What is the book you are trying to scan, Eileen?

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 12:07 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book 
WithThe KNFB Reader

   

  I'd recommend waiting until the next update comes out that should include 
retaining the format of the page.

  The standscan might be the best choice of stands to attempt this, but in 
reality, I'd recommend using a computer with OpenBook or Kurzweil software for 
that size project.

  If you have a Bookshare membership, you could request that book and even 
offer to send the print copy to a volunteer willing to to scan the book ...

  Good luck,

  Richard

   

   

Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.

Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

Sent from my iPhone 5S

 


  On Jan 1, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:

Hello All,

I have just purchased a 300 plus paperback cookbook, with the page size 
approximately 8 X 11.5. I am using an iPhone6 with iOS 8.1 with the KNFB 
Reader. I'm wondering if others have scanned a book of this size and what they 
used to hold down the pages that does not have a large amount of pages to 
weight down the side. I tried a stmall weighted object, but that's not to 
really doing the trick. Any other suggestions. Has anyone tried the KNFB Reader 
with any of the stands or mounts? I would love to hear their experiences. I 
will set up the StandScan Pro after posting this and see how this may assist me 
in accomplishing this activity. 

Thanks in advance for your help in this matter.

Best,
Eileen 


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Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe KNFB Reader

2015-01-02 Thread Sandratomkins
Eileen,
This is serendipitous as I have just started to scan some cookery books 
myself.now, although K n FB is a very good app the requirements for scanning 
recipes requires complete precision.even when using my stand scan pro I find 
there will be the odd error.these errors are so slight that if I was scanning 
fiction, for example, they wouldn't matter, but with recipes…so, I decided to 
bite the bullet and ask my partner to use his flat bed scanner and PC to create 
PDF files.he then can pass those files over to me and KN FB will digitise 
them.I should mention that I no longer have a PC or laptop or my own flat bed 
scanner. his PC/laptop are barred to me!neither does he have any screen readers 
on them.don't I sound pitiable?however, this was my choice: having decided that 
I would never, never pay the extortionate rates that the adaptive software was 
asking of me again.I know there are programs such as NVD a et cetera which I 
could now use, but when I decided to give up my laptop this wasn't really a 
viable option.Plus, I wanted to push my iPhone to its limit.so, in short, if 
you can obtain PDF files, you can use the KFFB reader to OCR them for you.I 
don't suppose your cookery books are for a Thermomix are they?this is my latest 
indulgence and has turned me from  an appalling cook into really quite a good 
one!unfortunately, all the recipe books for the Thermomix do not exist in E 
format.good luck to you and happy cooking!

Sandy

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> On 1 Jan 2015, at 20:16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
>  
> I agree that while KNFB Reader is an awesome app, there are projects where a 
> scanner solution is better just as you’d rent a moving truck if you want to 
> move rather than making 20 trips with the car. The ideal solution would be to 
> have a scanner with automatic document feeder and to destroy the book so you 
> can just run the pages through the scanner. I have a Fujitsu Scansnap IX500 
> and while it would only scan to PDF, it is so super blazing fast and does 
> automatic souble sided scanning. If I had a paperback book with 300 pages I 
> could probably scan that with that scanner in about 5 minutes and then just 
> use Openbook to recognize the single PDF file. I guess now that Jaws does OCR 
> on entire PDF documents you could even open the PDF in Adobe Reader and tell 
> Jaws to do the OCR. It would be interesting to see if that works.
>  
> What is the book you are trying to scan, Eileen?
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 12:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book 
> WithThe KNFB Reader
>  
> I'd recommend waiting until the next update comes out that should include 
> retaining the format of the page.
> The standscan might be the best choice of stands to attempt this, but in 
> reality, I'd recommend using a computer with OpenBook or Kurzweil software 
> for that size project.
> If you have a Bookshare membership, you could request that book and even 
> offer to send the print copy to a volunteer willing to to scan the book ...
> Good luck,
> Richard
>  
>  
> Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
> 
> Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
> 
>  
> 
> On Jan 1, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have just purchased a 300 plus paperback cookbook, with the page size 
> approximately 8 X 11.5. I am using an iPhone6 with iOS 8.1 with the KNFB 
> Reader. I'm wondering if others have scanned a book of this size and what 
> they used to hold down the pages that does not have a large amount of pages 
> to weight down the side. I tried a stmall weighted object, but that's not to 
> really doing the trick. Any other suggestions. Has anyone tried the KNFB 
> Reader with any of the stands or mounts? I would love to hear their 
> experiences. I will set up the StandScan Pro after posting this and see how 
> this may assist me in accomplishing this activity. 
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help in this matter.
> 
> Best,
> Eileen 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe KNFB Reader

2015-01-01 Thread Eileen Misrahi
Hello All,

Thanks for the suggestions. I was expecting the solution of using either 
Kurzweil 1000 or OpenBook 9, which I do have both of. I suppose I could take 
the pages out of the binding, but I was hoping to keep it in tack. I actually 
got a very accurate scan with the StandScan Pro without using its lights and 
only the camera flash from the KNFB Reader. I will give Bookshare a call and 
see what the process is for one of their volunteers to scan the cookbook. In 
the past, when in grad school, I sometimes needed to purchase 2 copies, so the 
person who was doing the scanning could do some markup. Again, thanks and I do 
know that I can use the batch mode in KNFB Reader. I just don't know the 
reliability of using this mode and if the app will crash in the middle of this 
project. My sure bet is to use the PC. *Smile* Well, the only other idea I can 
come up with is to find the index and get the page numbers to specific recipes 
that look interesting and scan only those recipes. Thanks for the suggestions.

Cheers,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 1, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Joanne Chua  wrote:
> 
> I think she did mention that is a 300+ a4 size cook book.
> If, KNFB is the only option, you might want to make sure that is fair 
> distance beetween the book and the camera/phone, to make sure that the phone 
> camera can ditact the whole page. Scanstand or Scanbox might pretty much 
> help, but, if it is a big thick book, you migh need other solution like 
> putting it on top of some stand that you improvise yourself, like a box or 
> something. Usually, allow your phone  to have about 15/20CM or about 6"  
> distance on top of the book and make sure you have plenty of light coming 
> through the pages. try scan it page by page, instead of two side page at the 
> same time.
> 
> 
> Joanne Chua
> The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
> Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
> Send from my iPad
> 
>> On 2 Jan 2015, at 6:46, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>>  
>> I agree that while KNFB Reader is an awesome app, there are projects where a 
>> scanner solution is better just as you’d rent a moving truck if you want to 
>> move rather than making 20 trips with the car. The ideal solution would be 
>> to have a scanner with automatic document feeder and to destroy the book so 
>> you can just run the pages through the scanner. I have a Fujitsu Scansnap 
>> IX500 and while it would only scan to PDF, it is so super blazing fast and 
>> does automatic souble sided scanning. If I had a paperback book with 300 
>> pages I could probably scan that with that scanner in about 5 minutes and 
>> then just use Openbook to recognize the single PDF file. I guess now that 
>> Jaws does OCR on entire PDF documents you could even open the PDF in Adobe 
>> Reader and tell Jaws to do the OCR. It would be interesting to see if that 
>> works.
>>  
>> What is the book you are trying to scan, Eileen?
>>  
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 12:07 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book 
>> WithThe KNFB Reader
>>  
>> I'd recommend waiting until the next update comes out that should include 
>> retaining the format of the page.
>> The standscan might be the best choice of stands to attempt this, but in 
>> reality, I'd recommend using a computer with OpenBook or Kurzweil software 
>> for that size project.
>> If you have a Bookshare membership, you could request that book and even 
>> offer to send the print copy to a volunteer willing to to scan the book ...
>> Good luck,
>> Richard
>>  
>>  
>> Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
>> 
>> Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Jan 1, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I have just purchased a 300 plus paperback cookbook, with the page size 
>> approximately 8 X 11.5. I am using an iPhone6 with iOS 8.1 with the KNFB 
>> Reader. I'm wondering if others have scanned a book of this size and what 
>> they used to hold down the pages that does not have a large amount of pages 
>> to weight down the side. I tried a stmall weighted object, but that's not to 
>> really doing the trick. Any other suggestions. Has anyone tried the KNFB 
>> Reader with any of the stands or moun

Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe KNFB Reader

2015-01-01 Thread Joanne Chua
I think she did mention that is a 300+ a4 size cook book.
If, KNFB is the only option, you might want to make sure that is fair distance 
beetween the book and the camera/phone, to make sure that the phone camera can 
ditact the whole page. Scanstand or Scanbox might pretty much help, but, if it 
is a big thick book, you migh need other solution like putting it on top of 
some stand that you improvise yourself, like a box or something. Usually, allow 
your phone  to have about 15/20CM or about 6"  distance on top of the book and 
make sure you have plenty of light coming through the pages. try scan it page 
by page, instead of two side page at the same time.


Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
Send from my iPad

> On 2 Jan 2015, at 6:46, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
>  
> I agree that while KNFB Reader is an awesome app, there are projects where a 
> scanner solution is better just as you’d rent a moving truck if you want to 
> move rather than making 20 trips with the car. The ideal solution would be to 
> have a scanner with automatic document feeder and to destroy the book so you 
> can just run the pages through the scanner. I have a Fujitsu Scansnap IX500 
> and while it would only scan to PDF, it is so super blazing fast and does 
> automatic souble sided scanning. If I had a paperback book with 300 pages I 
> could probably scan that with that scanner in about 5 minutes and then just 
> use Openbook to recognize the single PDF file. I guess now that Jaws does OCR 
> on entire PDF documents you could even open the PDF in Adobe Reader and tell 
> Jaws to do the OCR. It would be interesting to see if that works.
>  
> What is the book you are trying to scan, Eileen?
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 12:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book 
> WithThe KNFB Reader
>  
> I'd recommend waiting until the next update comes out that should include 
> retaining the format of the page.
> The standscan might be the best choice of stands to attempt this, but in 
> reality, I'd recommend using a computer with OpenBook or Kurzweil software 
> for that size project.
> If you have a Bookshare membership, you could request that book and even 
> offer to send the print copy to a volunteer willing to to scan the book ...
> Good luck,
> Richard
>  
>  
> Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
> 
> Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
> 
>  
> 
> On Jan 1, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have just purchased a 300 plus paperback cookbook, with the page size 
> approximately 8 X 11.5. I am using an iPhone6 with iOS 8.1 with the KNFB 
> Reader. I'm wondering if others have scanned a book of this size and what 
> they used to hold down the pages that does not have a large amount of pages 
> to weight down the side. I tried a stmall weighted object, but that's not to 
> really doing the trick. Any other suggestions. Has anyone tried the KNFB 
> Reader with any of the stands or mounts? I would love to hear their 
> experiences. I will set up the StandScan Pro after posting this and see how 
> this may assist me in accomplishing this activity. 
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help in this matter.
> 
> Best,
> Eileen 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe KNFB Reader

2015-01-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Richard,

 

I agree that while KNFB Reader is an awesome app, there are projects where a 
scanner solution is better just as you’d rent a moving truck if you want to 
move rather than making 20 trips with the car. The ideal solution would be to 
have a scanner with automatic document feeder and to destroy the book so you 
can just run the pages through the scanner. I have a Fujitsu Scansnap IX500 and 
while it would only scan to PDF, it is so super blazing fast and does automatic 
souble sided scanning. If I had a paperback book with 300 pages I could 
probably scan that with that scanner in about 5 minutes and then just use 
Openbook to recognize the single PDF file. I guess now that Jaws does OCR on 
entire PDF documents you could even open the PDF in Adobe Reader and tell Jaws 
to do the OCR. It would be interesting to see if that works.

 

What is the book you are trying to scan, Eileen?

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 12:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe 
KNFB Reader

 

I'd recommend waiting until the next update comes out that should include 
retaining the format of the page.

The standscan might be the best choice of stands to attempt this, but in 
reality, I'd recommend using a computer with OpenBook or Kurzweil software for 
that size project.

If you have a Bookshare membership, you could request that book and even offer 
to send the print copy to a volunteer willing to to scan the book ...

Good luck,

Richard

 

 

Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.

Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

Sent from my iPhone 5S

 


On Jan 1, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Eileen Misrahi mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello All,

I have just purchased a 300 plus paperback cookbook, with the page size 
approximately 8 X 11.5. I am using an iPhone6 with iOS 8.1 with the KNFB 
Reader. I'm wondering if others have scanned a book of this size and what they 
used to hold down the pages that does not have a large amount of pages to 
weight down the side. I tried a stmall weighted object, but that's not to 
really doing the trick. Any other suggestions. Has anyone tried the KNFB Reader 
with any of the stands or mounts? I would love to hear their experiences. I 
will set up the StandScan Pro after posting this and see how this may assist me 
in accomplishing this activity. 

Thanks in advance for your help in this matter.

Best,
Eileen 


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Re: Requesting Suggestions On Scanning A Large Paperback Book WithThe KNFB Reader

2015-01-01 Thread Richard Turner
I'd recommend waiting until the next update comes out that should include 
retaining the format of the page.
The standscan might be the best choice of stands to attempt this, but in 
reality, I'd recommend using a computer with OpenBook or Kurzweil software for 
that size project.
If you have a Bookshare membership, you could request that book and even offer 
to send the print copy to a volunteer willing to to scan the book ...
Good luck,
Richard


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> On Jan 1, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have just purchased a 300 plus paperback cookbook, with the page size 
> approximately 8 X 11.5. I am using an iPhone6 with iOS 8.1 with the KNFB 
> Reader. I'm wondering if others have scanned a book of this size and what 
> they used to hold down the pages that does not have a large amount of pages 
> to weight down the side. I tried a stmall weighted object, but that's not to 
> really doing the trick. Any other suggestions. Has anyone tried the KNFB 
> Reader with any of the stands or mounts? I would love to hear their 
> experiences. I will set up the StandScan Pro after posting this and see how 
> this may assist me in accomplishing this activity. 
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help in this matter.
> 
> Best,
> Eileen 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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