Re: Speaking Rate in VoiceOver

2021-05-11 Thread Kelly Hill
Sometimes people with some usable vision  want to have some but not all things 
spoken.  In that case, speak screen and speak selection can be very useful. 



Kelly Hill
> On May 11, 2021, at 6:17 AM, Sandra Finley  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Richard, right now, under the Spoken Content heading,  I have
> Both Speak Selection  and speak Screen Off.
>  I do not understand the purpose of that Spoken Content section. 
> 
> 
> Sandy Finley
> (Sent from my iPhone)
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> Richard Turner 
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 5:19:46 PM
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> Subject: Re: Speaking Rate in VoiceOver
>  
> Do you also have speak screen on under accessibility Spoken content?
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
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>>> On May 10, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Sandra Finley  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> In recent days, when I try to slow down the rate of speech in VO, it will 
>> not change. The speaking Rate option  on the rotor is most definitely 
>> selected and, until recently, wAs working correctly.   I am thinking that 
>> some weird setting somewhere needs to be modified but cannot imagine what it 
>> would be. I Am using an iPhone 8 with the latest version of iOs. 
>> Sandy Finley
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RE: Speaking Rate in VoiceOver

2021-05-11 Thread Richard Turner
I was thinking that may have gotten in your way, but obviously not.

Those settings are primarily for people who do not want VoiceOVer on all the 
time, but want to be able to have certain things read out loud.  If someone has 
low vision and can manage the short things, but when it comes to longer emails, 
or web sites, speak screen allows them to swipe down with two fingers from the 
Status Bar and it will read aloud.  Some people use this for Apple Books 
because once you get it started reading, you can lock the phone and it 
continues reading.  You cannot lock your phone while VoiceOver is reading an 
Apple book.

The speak highlights again is for someone not wanting to use VoiceOver all the 
time, but they can highlight text and there is a speak button they can press 
and have it read out to them.

Then there is the typing feedback setting.  Even if those others are off, if 
the typing feedback is on for characters or words, it will speak those as they 
are typed with or without VoiceOver being on.

The speaking rate here is supposed to just control the speech rate for these 
functions and should not affect VoiceOver.

You may also want to go into the VoiceOver settings and change the default 
speech rate and see if that helps at all.
I’ve never heard of the rotor being on speaking rate and nothing happening.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sandra 
Finley
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 6:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speaking Rate in VoiceOver

Richard, right now, under the Spoken Content heading,  I have
Both Speak Selection  and speak Screen Off.
 I do not understand the purpose of that Spoken Content section.


Sandy Finley
(Sent from my iPhone)

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
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Subject: Re: Speaking Rate in VoiceOver

Do you also have speak screen on under accessibility Spoken content?


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On May 10, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Sandra Finley 
mailto:therealsandyfin...@gmail.com>> wrote:

In recent days, when I try to slow down the rate of speech in VO, it will not 
change. The speaking Rate option  on the rotor is most definitely selected and, 
until recently, wAs working correctly.   I am thinking that some weird setting 
somewhere needs to be modified but cannot imagine what it would be. I Am using 
an iPhone 8 with the latest version of iOs.
Sandy Finley
(Sent from my iPhone)
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Re: Speaking Rate in VoiceOver

2021-05-11 Thread Sandra Finley
Richard, right now, under the Spoken Content heading,  I have
Both Speak Selection  and speak Screen Off.
 I do not understand the purpose of that Spoken Content section.


Sandy Finley
(Sent from my iPhone)

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Richard 
Turner 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 5:19:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Speaking Rate in VoiceOver

Do you also have speak screen on under accessibility Spoken content?



Richard
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On May 10, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Sandra Finley  wrote:


In recent days, when I try to slow down the rate of speech in VO, it will not 
change. The speaking Rate option  on the rotor is most definitely selected and, 
until recently, wAs working correctly.   I am thinking that some weird setting 
somewhere needs to be modified but cannot imagine what it would be. I Am using 
an iPhone 8 with the latest version of iOs.
Sandy Finley
(Sent from my iPhone)

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Re: Speaking Rate in VoiceOver

2021-05-10 Thread Richard Turner
Do you also have speak screen on under accessibility Spoken content?



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On May 10, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Sandra Finley  wrote:


In recent days, when I try to slow down the rate of speech in VO, it will not 
change. The speaking Rate option  on the rotor is most definitely selected and, 
until recently, wAs working correctly.   I am thinking that some weird setting 
somewhere needs to be modified but cannot imagine what it would be. I Am using 
an iPhone 8 with the latest version of iOs.
Sandy Finley
(Sent from my iPhone)

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