Re: VoiceOver Sounds with a Braille Display
Hi. Yes those clicks are really anoying. We should have an option that let us decide, if we would have these sounds if we are using braille with speech muted. Best regards Annie.Den Jan 19, 2013 kl. 4:39 AM skrev Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com: Len, you are right. With my 4S on ios 6, I am getting the clicks. I don't know why I didnt' notice them the first time around. My iPad can't upgrade. It is on ios 5 forever, and I definitely do not get the clicks there. It would make sense if the clicks could be muted, but not the phone. I guess it is time to write to Apple Accessibility and see what happens. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: VoiceOver Sounds with a Braille Display
Are those clicks the keyboard clicks that you can turn off in settings? Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: VoiceOver Sounds with a Braille Display Hi. Yes those clicks are really anoying. We should have an option that let us decide, if we would have these sounds if we are using braille with speech muted. Best regards Annie.Den Jan 19, 2013 kl. 4:39 AM skrev Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com: Len, you are right. With my 4S on ios 6, I am getting the clicks. I don't know why I didnt' notice them the first time around. My iPad can't upgrade. It is on ios 5 forever, and I definitely do not get the clicks there. It would make sense if the clicks could be muted, but not the phone. I guess it is time to write to Apple Accessibility and see what happens. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver Sounds with a Braille Display
No, the clicks and other sounds are the clicks you get when say, moving on the screen amongst icons or when double tapping on an item to open it or a folder to open it etc. Not keyboard clicks that you get when typing, unless you turn them off. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver Sounds with a Braille Display
Hi Richard. No, these are VoiceOver specific sounds which can only be muted in iOS 6 by muting all the sounds on your phone. I actually emailed Apple durring the beta testing fases of iOS 6 to give them the feedback that this was an annoyance, and that it would be nice to have the option of turning these sounds on and off, but I was given the typical response. I get it though, braille users are even more in the minority than speech users. Scott On 1/19/13, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: No, the clicks and other sounds are the clicks you get when say, moving on the screen amongst icons or when double tapping on an item to open it or a folder to open it etc. Not keyboard clicks that you get when typing, unless you turn them off. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver Sounds with a Braille Display
The only thing I've been able to do is turn my IPod all the way down. (It doesn't have a mute switch.) I'm also going to try experimenting with VO volume by itself and see if I can just turn that down without muting everything. Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Jan 19, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: No, the clicks and other sounds are the clicks you get when say, moving on the screen amongst icons or when double tapping on an item to open it or a folder to open it etc. Not keyboard clicks that you get when typing, unless you turn them off. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver Sounds with a Braille Display
When I mute speech with space plus m, I don't get voice over sounds when using my braille display. How are you turning off speech? Mary p.s. This is on a 4S and also an iPad original. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver Sounds with a Braille Display
Hi Mary, I am turning off speech in the same manner, space+m. I am testing here right now. I mute, space+m, and as I move from icon to icon on the screen I hear the characteristic click made by VoiceOver when speech is on as well as the sound made when I change to the next line. I wonder what is different? -L On 1/18/2013 5:24 PM, Mary Otten wrote: When I mute speech with space plus m, I don't get voice over sounds when using my braille display. How are you turning off speech? Mary p.s. This is on a 4S and also an iPad original. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver Sounds with a Braille Display
I usually mute voiceover by 3-finger double tap. I recommend we email: accessibil...@apple.com if we'd like the feature of muting all voiceover sounds. Personally, I'd like a setting under braille to go into some sort of private mode. Silent voiceover, silent voiceover sounds, and turn on screen curtain. All with one selection. Then maybe this could be added to the rotor for quick toggle on and off. A lot of the time, I don't want to mute my phone and silence alerts and ringers. :) Traci 1 step, 2 step, ... 1,311 steps! I can do the BIG CLIMB 2013, with your support. Our efforts will help make a big difference in the fight against blood cancers. Please give to the Leukemia Lymphoma Society. Learn more donate here. Thank you. http://www.llswa.org/site/TR/Events/BigClimb?px=1570735pg=personalfr_id=1250 On Jan 18, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com wrote: When I mute speech with space plus m, I don't get voice over sounds when using my braille display. How are you turning off speech? Mary p.s. This is on a 4S and also an iPad original. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver Sounds with a Braille Display
Well, maybe I'm nuts, but when I had speech muted messing around on my iPad and the 4S, I sure don't remember hearing those clicks. My phone's charging right now, but I just tried again on the iPad, and no clicks or folder and app opening sounds etc are heard with speech muted. I did have to repair my iPad though. I can't remember if you are suppose to turn off the display prior to locking the screen or the other way around. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver Sounds with a Braille Display
I'm using ios6 on my Phone but not on my iPad. Will double check the phone and let you know if it is different results from the iPad. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: VoiceOver Sounds with a Braille Display
Len, you are right. With my 4S on ios 6, I am getting the clicks. I don't know why I didnt' notice them the first time around. My iPad can't upgrade. It is on ios 5 forever, and I definitely do not get the clicks there. It would make sense if the clicks could be muted, but not the phone. I guess it is time to write to Apple Accessibility and see what happens. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.