RE: problem with voice over and editing emails

2013-11-12 Thread Ray T. Mahorney
I don't think so because I'm seeing it with the BT keyboard as well.


Ray T. Mahorney
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Pablo Morales
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 05:47
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: problem with voice over and editing emails

Nope, I don't think so, because when I started to notice it, it was the first 
idea that came to my
head, I am touching the screen with my other hand, or my flick is to slow, or 
something is
happening, but after try several times, and with my phone on the table, is not 
reason to make an
accidental movement. Any way, I remember that I saw somebody else saying 
something like this on the
list days ago. I don't remember who was, but I remember that in that email, the 
person reported a
problem like this. The focus of voice over jump to the wrong place every time, 
and is difficult to
type or navigate, on the emails.
Now, could be something with the  sencibility of the screen?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:58 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It sounds like you are accidentally touching the screen instead of flicking. 
 In iOS7, the message
body takes up just about the entire screen, so that touching anywhere will 
cause your cursor to
move. Try doing all gestures on the keyboard, so that the worst you'll get is 
an extra character
instead of your cursor moving.
 On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI all.
 I don't know if somebody else has noticed  that when we are responding an 
 email, without
bluetooth keyboard, just with the virtual keyboard, or with hand writing, the 
focus or cursor of
voice over moves around, losing where we were typing. For example, if I want to 
modify a word, and I
select with the rotor characters, and I flick up or down,, some times voice 
over jumps to another
place of the screen. I don't know what I am doing wrong, but is very hard to 
edit an email using the
virtual keyboard, or the hand writing feature. Anybody noticed it with the Ios 
7.x?
 Tanks
 Pablo
 
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RE: problem with voice over and editing emails

2013-11-12 Thread BrianMiller
Hi wrote about this issue late last week as well, and I am still having this
problem.  

And I also am using a BT keyboard with the phone flat on a desk and I'm not
touching it at all.  

More fun with IOS7 I suppose, but it's very frustrating.  

Brian M


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Subject: RE: problem with voice over and editing emails

I don't think so because I'm seeing it with the BT keyboard as well.


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Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 05:47
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Subject: Re: problem with voice over and editing emails

Nope, I don't think so, because when I started to notice it, it was the
first idea that came to my head, I am touching the screen with my other
hand, or my flick is to slow, or something is happening, but after try
several times, and with my phone on the table, is not reason to make an
accidental movement. Any way, I remember that I saw somebody else saying
something like this on the list days ago. I don't remember who was, but I
remember that in that email, the person reported a problem like this. The
focus of voice over jump to the wrong place every time, and is difficult to
type or navigate, on the emails.
Now, could be something with the  sencibility of the screen?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:58 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It sounds like you are accidentally touching the screen instead of 
 flicking. In iOS7, the message
body takes up just about the entire screen, so that touching anywhere will
cause your cursor to move. Try doing all gestures on the keyboard, so that
the worst you'll get is an extra character instead of your cursor moving.
 On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 HI all.
 I don't know if somebody else has noticed  that when we are 
 responding an email, without
bluetooth keyboard, just with the virtual keyboard, or with hand writing,
the focus or cursor of voice over moves around, losing where we were typing.
For example, if I want to modify a word, and I select with the rotor
characters, and I flick up or down,, some times voice over jumps to another
place of the screen. I don't know what I am doing wrong, but is very hard to
edit an email using the virtual keyboard, or the hand writing feature.
Anybody noticed it with the Ios 7.x?
 Tanks
 Pablo
 
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Re: problem with voice over and editing emails

2013-11-08 Thread Donna
Yes I experience this same problem when editting emails and text messages. Very 
annoying!
Donna

 On Nov 8, 2013, at 12:47 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Nope, I don't think so, because when I started to notice it, it was the first 
 idea that came to my head, I am touching the screen with my other hand, or my 
 flick is to slow, or something is happening, but after try several times, and 
 with my phone on the table, is not reason to make an accidental movement. Any 
 way, I remember that I saw somebody else saying something like this on the 
 list days ago. I don't remember who was, but I remember that in that email, 
 the person reported a problem like this. The focus of voice over jump to the 
 wrong place every time, and is difficult to type or navigate, on the emails.
 Now, could be something with the  sencibility of the screen?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:58 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It sounds like you are accidentally touching the screen instead of flicking. 
 In iOS7, the message body takes up just about the entire screen, so that 
 touching anywhere will cause your cursor to move. Try doing all gestures on 
 the keyboard, so that the worst you’ll get is an extra character instead of 
 your cursor moving.
 On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI all.
 I don't know if somebody else has noticed  that when we are responding an 
 email, without bluetooth keyboard, just with the virtual keyboard, or with 
 hand writing, the focus or cursor of voice over moves around, losing where 
 we were typing. For example, if I want to modify a word, and I select with 
 the rotor characters, and I flick up or down,, some times voice over jumps 
 to another place of the screen. I don't know what I am doing wrong, but is 
 very hard to edit an email using the virtual keyboard, or the hand writing 
 feature. Anybody noticed it with the Ios 7.x?
 Tanks
 Pablo
 
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Re: problem with voice over and editing emails

2013-11-08 Thread Lea Langley
Hi all, something that may help with this problem is if you were to say in the 
subject of the message you finish putting in your subject hit the return key. 
That will take you to the message body. Voice over does seem to lose focus, and 
I don't know why either but I have also noticed this problem. God bless, Wren

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:48 AM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Yes I experience this same problem when editting emails and text messages. 
 Very annoying!
 Donna
 
 On Nov 8, 2013, at 12:47 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Nope, I don't think so, because when I started to notice it, it was the 
 first idea that came to my head, I am touching the screen with my other 
 hand, or my flick is to slow, or something is happening, but after try 
 several times, and with my phone on the table, is not reason to make an 
 accidental movement. Any way, I remember that I saw somebody else saying 
 something like this on the list days ago. I don't remember who was, but I 
 remember that in that email, the person reported a problem like this. The 
 focus of voice over jump to the wrong place every time, and is difficult to 
 type or navigate, on the emails.
 Now, could be something with the  sencibility of the screen?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:58 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It sounds like you are accidentally touching the screen instead of 
 flicking. In iOS7, the message body takes up just about the entire screen, 
 so that touching anywhere will cause your cursor to move. Try doing all 
 gestures on the keyboard, so that the worst you’ll get is an extra 
 character instead of your cursor moving.
 On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 HI all.
 I don't know if somebody else has noticed  that when we are responding an 
 email, without bluetooth keyboard, just with the virtual keyboard, or with 
 hand writing, the focus or cursor of voice over moves around, losing where 
 we were typing. For example, if I want to modify a word, and I select with 
 the rotor characters, and I flick up or down,, some times voice over jumps 
 to another place of the screen. I don't know what I am doing wrong, but is 
 very hard to edit an email using the virtual keyboard, or the hand writing 
 feature. Anybody noticed it with the Ios 7.x?
 Tanks
 Pablo
 
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Re: problem with voice over and editing emails

2013-11-08 Thread Pablo Morales

and what to do when we are typing a text message?

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: problem with voice over and editing emails


Hi all, something that may help with this problem is if you were to say in 
the subject of the message you finish putting in your subject hit the return 
key. That will take you to the message body. Voice over does seem to lose 
focus, and I don't know why either but I have also noticed this problem. God 
bless, Wren


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:48 AM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Yes I experience this same problem when editting emails and text messages. 
Very annoying!

Donna

On Nov 8, 2013, at 12:47 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Nope, I don't think so, because when I started to notice it, it was the 
first idea that came to my head, I am touching the screen with my other 
hand, or my flick is to slow, or something is happening, but after try 
several times, and with my phone on the table, is not reason to make an 
accidental movement. Any way, I remember that I saw somebody else saying 
something like this on the list days ago. I don't remember who was, but I 
remember that in that email, the person reported a problem like this. The 
focus of voice over jump to the wrong place every time, and is difficult 
to type or navigate, on the emails.

Now, could be something with the  sencibility of the screen?

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:58 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

It sounds like you are accidentally touching the screen instead of 
flicking. In iOS7, the message body takes up just about the entire 
screen, so that touching anywhere will cause your cursor to move. Try 
doing all gestures on the keyboard, so that the worst you’ll get is an 
extra character instead of your cursor moving.
On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com 
wrote:


HI all.
I don't know if somebody else has noticed  that when we are responding 
an email, without bluetooth keyboard, just with the virtual keyboard, 
or with hand writing, the focus or cursor of voice over moves around, 
losing where we were typing. For example, if I want to modify a word, 
and I select with the rotor characters, and I flick up or down,, some 
times voice over jumps to another place of the screen. I don't know 
what I am doing wrong, but is very hard to edit an email using the 
virtual keyboard, or the hand writing feature. Anybody noticed it with 
the Ios 7.x?

Tanks
Pablo

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: problem with voice over and editing emails

2013-11-08 Thread Alex Hall
What do you mean? What happens when you're trying to type a text that isn't 
working?
On Nov 8, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:

 and what to do when we are typing a text message?
 
 - Original Message - From: Lea Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:54 AM
 Subject: Re: problem with voice over and editing emails
 
 
 Hi all, something that may help with this problem is if you were to say in 
 the subject of the message you finish putting in your subject hit the return 
 key. That will take you to the message body. Voice over does seem to lose 
 focus, and I don't know why either but I have also noticed this problem. God 
 bless, Wren
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:48 AM, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Yes I experience this same problem when editting emails and text messages. 
 Very annoying!
 Donna
 
 On Nov 8, 2013, at 12:47 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Nope, I don't think so, because when I started to notice it, it was the 
 first idea that came to my head, I am touching the screen with my other 
 hand, or my flick is to slow, or something is happening, but after try 
 several times, and with my phone on the table, is not reason to make an 
 accidental movement. Any way, I remember that I saw somebody else saying 
 something like this on the list days ago. I don't remember who was, but I 
 remember that in that email, the person reported a problem like this. The 
 focus of voice over jump to the wrong place every time, and is difficult to 
 type or navigate, on the emails.
 Now, could be something with the  sencibility of the screen?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:58 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It sounds like you are accidentally touching the screen instead of 
 flicking. In iOS7, the message body takes up just about the entire screen, 
 so that touching anywhere will cause your cursor to move. Try doing all 
 gestures on the keyboard, so that the worst you’ll get is an extra 
 character instead of your cursor moving.
 On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 HI all.
 I don't know if somebody else has noticed  that when we are responding an 
 email, without bluetooth keyboard, just with the virtual keyboard, or 
 with hand writing, the focus or cursor of voice over moves around, losing 
 where we were typing. For example, if I want to modify a word, and I 
 select with the rotor characters, and I flick up or down,, some times 
 voice over jumps to another place of the screen. I don't know what I am 
 doing wrong, but is very hard to edit an email using the virtual 
 keyboard, or the hand writing feature. Anybody noticed it with the Ios 
 7.x?
 Tanks
 Pablo
 
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Re: problem with voice over and editing emails

2013-11-07 Thread Alex Hall
It sounds like you are accidentally touching the screen instead of flicking. In 
iOS7, the message body takes up just about the entire screen, so that touching 
anywhere will cause your cursor to move. Try doing all gestures on the 
keyboard, so that the worst you’ll get is an extra character instead of your 
cursor moving.
On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:

 HI all.
 I don't know if somebody else has noticed  that when we are responding an 
 email, without bluetooth keyboard, just with the virtual keyboard, or with 
 hand writing, the focus or cursor of voice over moves around, losing where we 
 were typing. For example, if I want to modify a word, and I select with the 
 rotor characters, and I flick up or down,, some times voice over jumps to 
 another place of the screen. I don't know what I am doing wrong, but is very 
 hard to edit an email using the virtual keyboard, or the hand writing 
 feature. Anybody noticed it with the Ios 7.x?
 Tanks
 Pablo
 
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Re: problem with voice over and editing emails

2013-11-07 Thread Pablo Morales
Nope, I don't think so, because when I started to notice it, it was the first 
idea that came to my head, I am touching the screen with my other hand, or my 
flick is to slow, or something is happening, but after try several times, and 
with my phone on the table, is not reason to make an accidental movement. Any 
way, I remember that I saw somebody else saying something like this on the list 
days ago. I don't remember who was, but I remember that in that email, the 
person reported a problem like this. The focus of voice over jump to the wrong 
place every time, and is difficult to type or navigate, on the emails.
Now, could be something with the  sencibility of the screen?

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 On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:58 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It sounds like you are accidentally touching the screen instead of flicking. 
 In iOS7, the message body takes up just about the entire screen, so that 
 touching anywhere will cause your cursor to move. Try doing all gestures on 
 the keyboard, so that the worst you’ll get is an extra character instead of 
 your cursor moving.
 On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI all.
 I don't know if somebody else has noticed  that when we are responding an 
 email, without bluetooth keyboard, just with the virtual keyboard, or with 
 hand writing, the focus or cursor of voice over moves around, losing where 
 we were typing. For example, if I want to modify a word, and I select with 
 the rotor characters, and I flick up or down,, some times voice over jumps 
 to another place of the screen. I don't know what I am doing wrong, but is 
 very hard to edit an email using the virtual keyboard, or the hand writing 
 feature. Anybody noticed it with the Ios 7.x?
 Tanks
 Pablo
 
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Re: problem with voice over and editing emails

2013-11-07 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hello Pablo, yes I have notices and it's very annoying.

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 On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:52 PM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI all.
 I don't know if somebody else has noticed  that when we are responding an 
 email, without bluetooth keyboard, just with the virtual keyboard, or with 
 hand writing, the focus or cursor of voice over moves around, losing where we 
 were typing. For example, if I want to modify a word, and I select with the 
 rotor characters, and I flick up or down,, some times voice over jumps to 
 another place of the screen. I don't know what I am doing wrong, but is very 
 hard to edit an email using the virtual keyboard, or the hand writing 
 feature. Anybody noticed it with the Ios 7.x?
 Tanks
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Re: problem with voice over and editing emails

2013-11-07 Thread Joseph Hudson
Yeah I think it might be something with the screen as well.

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 On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:47 PM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Nope, I don't think so, because when I started to notice it, it was the first 
 idea that came to my head, I am touching the screen with my other hand, or my 
 flick is to slow, or something is happening, but after try several times, and 
 with my phone on the table, is not reason to make an accidental movement. Any 
 way, I remember that I saw somebody else saying something like this on the 
 list days ago. I don't remember who was, but I remember that in that email, 
 the person reported a problem like this. The focus of voice over jump to the 
 wrong place every time, and is difficult to type or navigate, on the emails.
 Now, could be something with the  sencibility of the screen?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:58 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It sounds like you are accidentally touching the screen instead of flicking. 
 In iOS7, the message body takes up just about the entire screen, so that 
 touching anywhere will cause your cursor to move. Try doing all gestures on 
 the keyboard, so that the worst you’ll get is an extra character instead of 
 your cursor moving.
 On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 HI all.
 I don't know if somebody else has noticed  that when we are responding an 
 email, without bluetooth keyboard, just with the virtual keyboard, or with 
 hand writing, the focus or cursor of voice over moves around, losing where 
 we were typing. For example, if I want to modify a word, and I select with 
 the rotor characters, and I flick up or down,, some times voice over jumps 
 to another place of the screen. I don't know what I am doing wrong, but is 
 very hard to edit an email using the virtual keyboard, or the hand writing 
 feature. Anybody noticed it with the Ios 7.x?
 Tanks
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