RE: [Tech-VI] From Jonathan Mosen via Living Blindfully: Updated blog post on the Sonos accessibility issue
I was under the impression Sonos already announced that there was a roadmap in place for restoring accessibility first with an update in 2 weeks and more by end of June. Is that a good thing, well obviously it would have been nice if they had just delayed releasing the app until it was all done, but let's wait to see if they follow through with these promises. In the meantime nobody forces you to update the app. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 12:34 PM To: VIPhone Email List Subject: Fwd: [Tech-VI] From Jonathan Mosen via Living Blindfully: Updated blog post on the Sonos accessibility issue Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: "David Goldfield via groups.io" Date: May 8, 2024 at 2:23:04 PM CDT To: Tech-VI Announcement List Subject: [Tech-VI] From Jonathan Mosen via Living Blindfully: Updated blog post on the Sonos accessibility issue Reply-To: tech...@groups.io From: Announcements On Behalf Of Living Blindfully via Announcements It has been a difficult couple of days for Sonos users. Now that the inaccessible app is out, I've reworked, and substantially updated, my blog post. I'll continue to add to it if I receive word of further media releases or coverage. I think Sonos now owes us two thinks, an urgent repair of the app, and a public apology to repair trust. https://mosen.org/sonos2024/ _._,_._,_ Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#6925)<https://groups.io/g/tech-vi/message/6925> | Reply To Group<mailto:tech...@groups.io?subject=Re:%20%5BTech-VI%5D%20From%20Jonathan%20Mosen%20via%20Living%20Blindfully%3A%20Updated%20blog%20post%20on%20the%20Sonos%20accessibility%20issue> | Reply To Sender<mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com?subject=Private:%20Re:%20%5BTech-VI%5D%20From%20Jonathan%20Mosen%20via%20Living%20Blindfully%3A%20Updated%20blog%20post%20on%20the%20Sonos%20accessibility%20issue> | Mute This Topic<https://groups.io/mt/105988099/6951> Your Subscription<https://groups.io/g/tech-vi/editsub/6951> | Contact Group Owner<mailto:tech-vi+ow...@groups.io> | Unsubscribe<https://groups.io/g/tech-vi/leave/9056712/6951/2085272086/xyzzy> [wale...@gmail.com] _._,_._,_ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B5FF61DB-511D-47D7-A475-038EBE759E2B%40gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B5FF61DB-511D-47D7-A475-038EBE759E2B%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56569DDED4AF252DEEC8CD6AC7E52%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.
Fwd: [Tech-VI] From Jonathan Mosen via Living Blindfully: Updated blog post on the Sonos accessibility issue
Sent from my iPhoneBegin forwarded message:From: "David Goldfield via groups.io" Date: May 8, 2024 at 2:23:04 PM CDTTo: Tech-VI Announcement List Subject: [Tech-VI] From Jonathan Mosen via Living Blindfully: Updated blog post on the Sonos accessibility issueReply-To: tech...@groups.io From: Announcements On Behalf Of Living Blindfully via Announcements It has been a difficult couple of days for Sonos users. Now that the inaccessible app is out, I've reworked, and substantially updated, my blog post. I'll continue to add to it if I receive word of further media releases or coverage. I think Sonos now owes us two thinks, an urgent repair of the app, and a public apology to repair trust. https://mosen.org/sonos2024/ _._,_._,_ Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#6925) | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [wale...@gmail.com] _._,_._,_ -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B5FF61DB-511D-47D7-A475-038EBE759E2B%40gmail.com.
RE: Sonos accessibility question was Re: Heos Denon speakers app
Hi Krister, I guess you are technically correct although the fact TruePlay isn't accessible is because Sonos hasn't figured out a way to make it accessible with Voiceover. I'll see if one of the contacts I had at Sonos from a few years ago when I was bugging them about accessibility a lot is still there and I'll ask him. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 4:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Sonos accessibility question was Re: Heos Denon speakers app Hi Speaking of accessibility in the Sonos app, i have 2 questions: Does anyone know if the trueplay function of Sonos is going to be accessible? If not, we can’t say it’s fully accessible, we can say it’s about 99.9 percent there. The other question is has anyone heard anything about the accessibility on the Mac side of things Sonos? Will it improve? /Krister > 20 jan. 2016 kl. 13:11 skrev 'ChalmersAS' via VIPhone > : > > Hi Sieghard and Brett > > Thanks very much for this feedback. > > Yes, it sounds like Sonus is a much better bet for us VO users. I was > intrigued by the Denon system appearing in T3 magazines list of the best 12 > pieces of tech on the planet. > > I did download the app, but it didn’t really make much sense without a system > to use with it. I also tweeted Denon to ask about accessibility, but have had > no reply. > > Can’t help but feel, from what you both say, that Sonus should get my custom > because of their commitment to accessibility. > > Thanks again > > Adrienne > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Sonos accessibility question was Re: Heos Denon speakers app
Hi Speaking of accessibility in the Sonos app, i have 2 questions: Does anyone know if the trueplay function of Sonos is going to be accessible? If not, we can’t say it’s fully accessible, we can say it’s about 99.9 percent there. The other question is has anyone heard anything about the accessibility on the Mac side of things Sonos? Will it improve? /Krister > 20 jan. 2016 kl. 13:11 skrev 'ChalmersAS' via VIPhone > : > > Hi Sieghard and Brett > > Thanks very much for this feedback. > > Yes, it sounds like Sonus is a much better bet for us VO users. I was > intrigued by the Denon system appearing in T3 magazines list of the best 12 > pieces of tech on the planet. > > I did download the app, but it didn’t really make much sense without a system > to use with it. I also tweeted Denon to ask about accessibility, but have had > no reply. > > Can’t help but feel, from what you both say, that Sonus should get my custom > because of their commitment to accessibility. > > Thanks again > > Adrienne > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Sonos accessibility
Hi guys I got a Sonos playbar for Christmas. Love the sound and setting it up was incredibly straight forward. Couple of questions, though. I read somewhere before purchasing (old Apple Vis thread, I think?) that the Mac Sonos app was completely accessible. This doesn’t seem to be the case for me. I’m seeing a lot of unlabelled buttons, and no easy way to pick a music source. Am I missing something? I’m using the latest version. Second thing: is anyone using Apple music through Sonos? I can’t seem to find a way to navigate the “my music” section by letter — so if I want to find a song starting with P, I can’t just jump to that letter and scroll from there. I have a lot of music, so having to scroll through every song/album to find something I want isn’t ideal, especially when search on the beta currently only searches Apples Music, and isn’t limited to individual my music libraries. I know it’s only beta, so could be a bug. Just wondering if anyone has got it to work, or if there’s an alternative and quicker method of navigation I could use meantime. I’m assuming it’s an accessibility issue, because I can’t imagine there wouldn’t be more comment on it if every user was coming up against this problem. Cheers for any input. Laura -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility???? kind regards trey.
Hi, then I’ll chime in publically and say Yay Neil and all others from whose labors we now benefit. thanks so kindly for all you’ve done to make this system accessible. It is much appreciated. Robin From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 4:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility kind regards trey. Sieghard, Thank you, and, I’m pleased that so many of us now can benefit from people like us badgering the heck out of folks at firms like Sonos. Happy also to talk with anyone off list about requirements… My current Sonos network consist of: 5 x Connects, 1 x Sub connected to a Play 5 2 x Play5’s in stereo pair mode, 1 x Play1, 2 x Play 3 in stereo pair, 1 x Play 3 1 x Sound Bar, 2 x Play5 and 2 x Play3 in surround mode. 1 x Bridge All in all, its a cracking setup. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 5 Sep 2014, at 06:04, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Alan and Robin, Thanks for the kind words, but Neil Barnfather also should be mentioned here, probably more so than me when it comes to implementing accessibility. Yes, in some way I hope my persistent correspondence with Sonos had a bit of influence in getting them to make a commitment towards accessibility, but Neil I think had dealings with people that were higher up on the corporate ladder. I have been a Sonos user for 5 years and I definitely have been a pain in the somewhere at times and I also did Beta test for them, but it's also because of all the other blind users and I think by now there are many that they realised they really had to support accessibility. I think Sonos is far from done innovating and I look forward to what they come up with next. I have a rather high-end Sony receiver which sounds awesome when it's hooked up to a good set of speakers, but I'm almost at a point where I might end up selling it so I can get a Playbar along with a Sonos Sub and a few Play 3 or Play 5 players for rear speakers. My receiver is not that old, but unfortunately I bought it a couple of years before many receivers came out with network connectivity and apps to control them so apart from turning it on, switching sources and turning the volume up and down it's rather inaccessible and once you get used to products like Sonos and the Apple TV you get spoiled in the accessibility department. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 8:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility kind regards trey. Hi, I completely concur with all you've said knowledgeable and kind is he. If he had something to do with the accessibility of that app being enhanced I am deeply grateful as I've had much fun with this system. Robin -Original Message- From: Anthony Vece Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 8:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility kind regards trey. Hi Robin; You could thank our friend Sieghard. The Sonos people worked very closely with him. I would have to say that Sieghard is one of the most knowledgable individuals I have ever had the pleasure of dealing with. Anthony Sent from my iPhone 5s! On Sep 4, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Robin Frost wrote: Hi, As I'm the owner of a brand new system as in the past 6 weeks I'm happy to report that I haven't run into any pitfalls as of yet. the sonos team via twitter has been one of the most supportive and helpful I've ever encountered. the products are easy to set up even with little knowledge therein and the app works fabulously well with VoiceOver. My public thanks to all who assisted Sonos in making the changes that enhanced accessibility via their app. If you get one I hope you enjoy it as much as I and others are enjoying the products as well. Robin -Original Message- From: trahern culver Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 1:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what's the current state of sonos accessability kind regards trey. are there any pit falls i need to look out for?? kind regards trey. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions
Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility???? kind regards trey.
Its already happened. They released an update a few days ago that does this but unless you have very good wifi all over the house your better off with the bridge. The bridge also isolates sonos traffic to its own network. If you have lots of people using your router for watching fideos etc. the bridge can be a good thing. Don -- Don Breda -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility???? kind regards trey.
Sieghard, Thank you, and, I'm pleased that so many of us now can benefit from people like us badgering the heck out of folks at firms like Sonos. Happy also to talk with anyone off list about requirements... My current Sonos network consist of: 5 x Connects, 1 x Sub connected to a Play 5 2 x Play5's in stereo pair mode, 1 x Play1, 2 x Play 3 in stereo pair, 1 x Play 3 1 x Sound Bar, 2 x Play5 and 2 x Play3 in surround mode. 1 x Bridge All in all, its a cracking setup. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 5 Sep 2014, at 06:04, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hi Alan and Robin, > > Thanks for the kind words, but Neil Barnfather also should be mentioned > here, probably more so than me when it comes to implementing accessibility. > Yes, in some way I hope my persistent correspondence with Sonos had a bit of > influence in getting them to make a commitment towards accessibility, but > Neil I think had dealings with people that were higher up on the corporate > ladder. I have been a Sonos user for 5 years and I definitely have been a > pain in the somewhere at times and I also did Beta test for them, but it's > also because of all the other blind users and I think by now there are many > that they realised they really had to support accessibility. > > I think Sonos is far from done innovating and I look forward to what they > come up with next. I have a rather high-end Sony receiver which sounds > awesome when it's hooked up to a good set of speakers, but I'm almost at a > point where I might end up selling it so I can get a Playbar along with a > Sonos Sub and a few Play 3 or Play 5 players for rear speakers. My receiver > is not that old, but unfortunately I bought it a couple of years before many > receivers came out with network connectivity and apps to control them so > apart from turning it on, switching sources and turning the volume up and > down it's rather inaccessible and once you get used to products like Sonos > and the Apple TV you get spoiled in the accessibility department. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Robin Frost > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 8:03 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility kind > regards trey. > > Hi, > I completely concur with all you've said knowledgeable and kind is he. If he > had something to do with the accessibility of that app being enhanced I am > deeply grateful as I've had much fun with this system. > Robin > > > -Original Message- > From: Anthony Vece > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 8:51 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility kind > regards trey. > > Hi Robin; > > You could thank our friend Sieghard. > The Sonos people worked very closely with him. > I would have to say that Sieghard is one of the most knowledgable > individuals I have ever had the pleasure of dealing with. > > Anthony > > > Sent from my iPhone 5s! > >> On Sep 4, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Robin Frost wrote: >> >> Hi, >> As I'm the owner of a brand new system as in the past 6 weeks I'm >> happy to report that I haven't run into any pitfalls as of yet. the >> sonos team via twitter has been one of the most supportive and helpful >> I've ever encountered. the products are easy to set up even with >> little knowledge therein and the app works fabulously well with VoiceOver. >> My public thanks to all who assisted Sonos in making the changes that >> enhanced accessibility via their app. >> If you get one I hope you enjoy it as much as I and others are >> enjoying the products as well. >> Robin >> >> >> -Original Message- From: trahern culver >> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 1:08 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: what's the current state of sonos accessability kind >> regards trey. >> >> are there any pit falls i need to look out for?? kind regards trey. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >> list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If >> you have any questions or concerns about the runnin
Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility???? kind regards trey.
Previously at least one Sonos unit within your Sonos setup had to be connected by physical wired connection to your network, this unit, and / or other wired units, would then create a dedicated Sonos WiFi network that was solely for the Sonos system to use. Sonos changed there system publicly about a month ago now, although some of us were using it for longer previously, to allow all of your Sonos units to use your existing WiFi network without the need for any one unit to have a physical connection. For me, I've tried it both ways and cannot find nor determine a difference, the reason that they did it I believe is to try and help people out who live in crowded WiFi congestion areas. Sonos are also bringing out a Sonos Boost, which is like a Bridge but has double the WiFi range to try and help people who have distance issues in their Sonos networks. I've played with this unit, but, since I do not have distance constraints its not something I need. In my home I put a boost at one end of the property, a Play 5 at the far end, a rough distance of 400 feet and 4 double thick walls and it worked perfectly. The same setup but with a Bridge rather than Boost would not work. I don't have this issue myself as I have physical wiring throughout my home, and, enough Sonos units so that they form a mesh network in any event. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 5 Sep 2014, at 02:06, Brent Harding wrote: > I heard now that they will support connecting with wifi without needing the > bridges any more. That might be some kind of firmware update, or newer > models, but I saw something like that on Twitter. > > - Original Message - From: "Robin Frost" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 3:35 PM > Subject: Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility kind regards > trey. > > > Hi, > As I'm the owner of a brand new system as in the past 6 weeks I'm happy to > report that I haven't run into any pitfalls as of yet. the sonos team via > twitter has been one of the most supportive and helpful I've ever > encountered. the products are easy to set up even with little knowledge > therein and the app works fabulously well with VoiceOver. > My public thanks to all who assisted Sonos in making the changes that > enhanced accessibility via their app. > If you get one I hope you enjoy it as much as I and others are enjoying the > products as well. > Robin > > > -Original Message- From: trahern culver > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 1:08 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: what's the current state of sonos accessability kind > regards trey. > > are there any pit falls i need to look out for?? kind regards trey. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at h
RE: what's the current state of sonos accessibility???? kind regards trey.
Hi Alan and Robin, Thanks for the kind words, but Neil Barnfather also should be mentioned here, probvably more so than me when it comes to implementing accessibility. Yes, in some way I hope my persistent correspondence with Sonos had a bit of influence in getting them to make a commitment towards accessibility, but Neil I think had dealings with people that were higher up on the corporate ladder. I have been a Sonos user for 5 years and I definitely have been a pain in the somewhere at times and I also did Beta test for them, but it's also because of all the other blind users and I think by now there are many that they realized they really had to support accessibility. I think Sonos is far from done innovating and I look forward to what they come up with next. I have a rather high-end Sony receiver which sounds awesome when it's hooked up to a good set of speakers, but I'm almost at a point where I might end up selling it so I can get a Playbar along with a Sonos Sub and a few Play 3 or Play 5 players for rear speakers. My receiver is not that old, but unfortunately I bought it a couple of years before many receivers came out with network connectivity and apps to control them so apart from turning it on, switching sources and turning the volume up and down it's rather inaccessible and once you get used to products like Sonos and the Apple TV you get spoiled in the accessibility department. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 8:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility kind regards trey. Hi, I completely concur with all you've said knowledgeable and kind is he. If he had something to do with the accessibility of that app being enhanced I am deeply grateful as I've had much fun with this system. Robin -Original Message- From: Anthony Vece Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 8:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility kind regards trey. Hi Robin; You could thank our friend Sieghard. The Sonos people worked very closely with him. I would have to say that Sieghard is one of the most knowledgable individuals I have ever had the pleasure of dealing with. Anthony Sent from my iPhone 5s! > On Sep 4, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Robin Frost wrote: > > Hi, > As I'm the owner of a brand new system as in the past 6 weeks I'm > happy to report that I haven't run into any pitfalls as of yet. the > sonos team via twitter has been one of the most supportive and helpful > I've ever encountered. the products are easy to set up even with > little knowledge therein and the app works fabulously well with VoiceOver. > My public thanks to all who assisted Sonos in making the changes that > enhanced accessibility via their app. > If you get one I hope you enjoy it as much as I and others are > enjoying the products as well. > Robin > > > -Original Message- From: trahern culver > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 1:08 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: what's the current state of sonos accessability kind > regards trey. > > are there any pit falls i need to look out for?? kind regards trey. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone > list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If > you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > The archives for this list can be searched at > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone > list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If > you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > The archives for this list can be searched at > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups
Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility???? kind regards trey.
Hi, I won't say much more about it as I don't want to be off topic but I have a play 5 in one room and a play 3 in another united by the access bridge and of course the app on my iPhone. Robin -Original Message- From: trahern culver Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 5:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility kind regards trey. thanks Robin what system do you have?? kind regards trey. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility???? kind regards trey.
Hi, I completely concur with all you've said knowledgeable and kind is he. If he had something to do with the accessibility of that app being enhanced I am deeply grateful as I've had much fun with this system. Robin -Original Message- From: Anthony Vece Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 8:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility kind regards trey. Hi Robin; You could thank our friend Sieghard. The Sonos people worked very closely with him. I would have to say that Sieghard is one of the most knowledgable individuals I have ever had the pleasure of dealing with. Anthony Sent from my iPhone 5s! On Sep 4, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Robin Frost wrote: Hi, As I'm the owner of a brand new system as in the past 6 weeks I'm happy to report that I haven't run into any pitfalls as of yet. the sonos team via twitter has been one of the most supportive and helpful I've ever encountered. the products are easy to set up even with little knowledge therein and the app works fabulously well with VoiceOver. My public thanks to all who assisted Sonos in making the changes that enhanced accessibility via their app. If you get one I hope you enjoy it as much as I and others are enjoying the products as well. Robin -Original Message- From: trahern culver Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 1:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what's the current state of sonos accessability kind regards trey. are there any pit falls i need to look out for?? kind regards trey. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googleg
Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility???? kind regards trey.
I heard now that they will support connecting with wifi without needing the bridges any more. That might be some kind of firmware update, or newer models, but I saw something like that on Twitter. - Original Message - From: "Robin Frost" To: Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 3:35 PM Subject: Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility kind regards trey. Hi, As I'm the owner of a brand new system as in the past 6 weeks I'm happy to report that I haven't run into any pitfalls as of yet. the sonos team via twitter has been one of the most supportive and helpful I've ever encountered. the products are easy to set up even with little knowledge therein and the app works fabulously well with VoiceOver. My public thanks to all who assisted Sonos in making the changes that enhanced accessibility via their app. If you get one I hope you enjoy it as much as I and others are enjoying the products as well. Robin -Original Message- From: trahern culver Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 1:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what's the current state of sonos accessability kind regards trey. are there any pit falls i need to look out for?? kind regards trey. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility???? kind regards trey.
Hi Robin; You could thank our friend Sieghard. The Sonos people worked very closely with him. I would have to say that Sieghard is one of the most knowledgable individuals I have ever had the pleasure of dealing with. Anthony Sent from my iPhone 5s! > On Sep 4, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Robin Frost wrote: > > Hi, > As I'm the owner of a brand new system as in the past 6 weeks I'm happy to > report that I haven't run into any pitfalls as of yet. the sonos team via > twitter has been one of the most supportive and helpful I've ever > encountered. the products are easy to set up even with little knowledge > therein and the app works fabulously well with VoiceOver. > My public thanks to all who assisted Sonos in making the changes that > enhanced accessibility via their app. > If you get one I hope you enjoy it as much as I and others are enjoying the > products as well. > Robin > > > -Original Message- From: trahern culver > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 1:08 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: what's the current state of sonos accessability kind regards > trey. > > are there any pit falls i need to look out for?? kind regards trey. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility???? kind regards trey.
thanks Robin what system do you have?? kind regards trey. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: what's the current state of sonos accessibility???? kind regards trey.
Hi, As I'm the owner of a brand new system as in the past 6 weeks I'm happy to report that I haven't run into any pitfalls as of yet. the sonos team via twitter has been one of the most supportive and helpful I've ever encountered. the products are easy to set up even with little knowledge therein and the app works fabulously well with VoiceOver. My public thanks to all who assisted Sonos in making the changes that enhanced accessibility via their app. If you get one I hope you enjoy it as much as I and others are enjoying the products as well. Robin -Original Message- From: trahern culver Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 1:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what's the current state of sonos accessability kind regards trey. are there any pit falls i need to look out for?? kind regards trey. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
