Re: goggles and Tap Tap See couldn't read one thing so used face time to get it done

2013-06-28 Thread Alan Paganelli
I hadn't thought about the hood light but it's a very good idea too!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Susan 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 7:26 AM
  Subject: Re: goggles and Tap Tap See couldn't read one thing so used face 
time to get it done


  This is great info.  Cans can be a challenge.  I've also learned to go
  to the cabinet nearest my stove and turn on my hood light.  Good
  lighting makes all the difference in your results.

  Blessings and happy scanning!
  Susan

  On 6/28/13, Alan Paganelli  wrote:
  > With Tap Tap See, here's what I've learned about cans.  Most cans have the
  > seem at about 9 o'clock.  If you put the seem there, the picture on the can
  > will then be at the 6 o'clock spot or directly in front of you.
  >
  > It will require some playing with to find where your going to get the best
  > results.  For example, on my first try I got back, picture is can of chili.
  > Useful but only if you always buy one kind such as chili with beans.  If you
  > buy chili with out beans then it is only 50 percent useful but then so is a
  > good guess.  By moving my iPhone nearer and farther away, I could find the
  > sweet spot where it would identify a 15 ounce can correctly every time.
  >
  > The best results I got in my testing was with the daylight coming in over my
  > shoulder and directly on the face of the can I was trying to identify.  The
  > camera lens is also in the top right corner on the back of the camera I
  > found myself forgetting that then trying to take the shot as if I were
  > shooting from the center of my iPhone.  It helped when I had my fully
  > sighted son look at the screen for me so that I would get an idea of the
  > placement.  He helped on a number of shots and found out about the seem of
  > the label on the can most of the times is at the 9 o'clock spot so that the
  > picture will be facing you.  Where you live the cans may or may not be that
  > way but it should serve as a starting point.
  >
  > HTH
  >
  >   Alan
  >
  >   - Original Message -
  >   From: Kellie
  >   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  >   Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 4:54 PM
  >   Subject: Re: goggles and Tap Tap See couldn't read one thing so used face
  > time to get it done
  >
  >
  >   Hey all, first, I want to say that I finally had success with TapTapSee
  > today for the first time. In the past, I got descriptions that weren't very
  > helpful. I tried it  today and I first got responses that were not entirely
  > helpful. For instance, I  Was trying to identify some cans and  it told me
  > blue and yellow can. I took another picture and then it said canned  food.
  > So then I turned the can  again and got something about nutritional facts,
  > Then on the next try it told me what the can was. I figured out other cans
  > after that pretty easily. So I'm rather happy that I finally got this app to
  > work for me. S4 Goggles, I have not had the success that I have read
  > everybody else has. I launched the program and it's in video Mode. I hold
  > the phone  over the product but received no response from it whatsoever. I'm
  > pretty sure that the built-in voice is turned on I also tried with it turned
  > off and had nothing being spoken to me. I tried tapping the flash button to
  > see flash off or flash on to no success. Does anybody know if there's a
  > podcast out there that can give me some tips? Am I just not being patient
  > enough for a response? I tried waiting for several seconds and don't get
  > anything from the app. Thank you in advance for any suggestions or tips..
  >
  >   Kellie, Loki  and my lovable Lady J
  >   Sent from my iPhone
  >
  >   On Jun 27, 2013, at 3:56 PM, "Alan Paganelli"
  >  wrote:
  >
  >
  > That's because they are two different sorts of apps.  I own both of
  > those apps.  I use talking Goggles to read what's on the screens of my
  > washing machine and dryer.  They both sit on pedestals and are
  > front-loaders.  When they are running, they can vibrate slightly which moves
  > the screen very slightly and with a still camera shot it probably be much
  > like trying to hold iPhone still wile trying to scan OCR.  I've tried Tap
  > Tap See a number of times and could not get it to read the screen at all but
  > talking goggles in video mode can.  Now on the other hand, I've spent many
  > an hour trying to find stuff that Tap Tap See couldn't identify and failed.
  > I have a wall clock in my living room.  I thought for sure I got that sucker
  > now.  Not!  Not only did Tap Tap See say that was a wall clock, but it said
  > "picture is Spartan Wa

Re: goggles and Tap Tap See couldn't read one thing so used face time to get it done

2013-06-28 Thread Susan
This is great info.  Cans can be a challenge.  I've also learned to go
to the cabinet nearest my stove and turn on my hood light.  Good
lighting makes all the difference in your results.

Blessings and happy scanning!
Susan

On 6/28/13, Alan Paganelli  wrote:
> With Tap Tap See, here's what I've learned about cans.  Most cans have the
> seem at about 9 o'clock.  If you put the seem there, the picture on the can
> will then be at the 6 o'clock spot or directly in front of you.
>
> It will require some playing with to find where your going to get the best
> results.  For example, on my first try I got back, picture is can of chili.
> Useful but only if you always buy one kind such as chili with beans.  If you
> buy chili with out beans then it is only 50 percent useful but then so is a
> good guess.  By moving my iPhone nearer and farther away, I could find the
> sweet spot where it would identify a 15 ounce can correctly every time.
>
> The best results I got in my testing was with the daylight coming in over my
> shoulder and directly on the face of the can I was trying to identify.  The
> camera lens is also in the top right corner on the back of the camera I
> found myself forgetting that then trying to take the shot as if I were
> shooting from the center of my iPhone.  It helped when I had my fully
> sighted son look at the screen for me so that I would get an idea of the
> placement.  He helped on a number of shots and found out about the seem of
> the label on the can most of the times is at the 9 o'clock spot so that the
> picture will be facing you.  Where you live the cans may or may not be that
> way but it should serve as a starting point.
>
> HTH
>
>   Alan
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Kellie
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 4:54 PM
>   Subject: Re: goggles and Tap Tap See couldn't read one thing so used face
> time to get it done
>
>
>   Hey all, first, I want to say that I finally had success with TapTapSee
> today for the first time. In the past, I got descriptions that weren't very
> helpful. I tried it  today and I first got responses that were not entirely
> helpful. For instance, I  Was trying to identify some cans and  it told me
> blue and yellow can. I took another picture and then it said canned  food.
> So then I turned the can  again and got something about nutritional facts,
> Then on the next try it told me what the can was. I figured out other cans
> after that pretty easily. So I'm rather happy that I finally got this app to
> work for me. S4 Goggles, I have not had the success that I have read
> everybody else has. I launched the program and it's in video Mode. I hold
> the phone  over the product but received no response from it whatsoever. I'm
> pretty sure that the built-in voice is turned on I also tried with it turned
> off and had nothing being spoken to me. I tried tapping the flash button to
> see flash off or flash on to no success. Does anybody know if there's a
> podcast out there that can give me some tips? Am I just not being patient
> enough for a response? I tried waiting for several seconds and don't get
> anything from the app. Thank you in advance for any suggestions or tips..
>
>   Kellie, Loki  and my lovable Lady J
>   Sent from my iPhone
>
>   On Jun 27, 2013, at 3:56 PM, "Alan Paganelli"
>  wrote:
>
>
> That's because they are two different sorts of apps.  I own both of
> those apps.  I use talking Goggles to read what's on the screens of my
> washing machine and dryer.  They both sit on pedestals and are
> front-loaders.  When they are running, they can vibrate slightly which moves
> the screen very slightly and with a still camera shot it probably be much
> like trying to hold iPhone still wile trying to scan OCR.  I've tried Tap
> Tap See a number of times and could not get it to read the screen at all but
> talking goggles in video mode can.  Now on the other hand, I've spent many
> an hour trying to find stuff that Tap Tap See couldn't identify and failed.
> I have a wall clock in my living room.  I thought for sure I got that sucker
> now.  Not!  Not only did Tap Tap See say that was a wall clock, but it said
> "picture is Spartan Wall Clock"  I said to my sighted son what's a Spartan
> wall clock.  He said, I don't know dad but let me look at the clock.  Then
> he starts chuckling.  Dad, Spartan is the brand name of the clock at the top
> of the face.  So I moved to my Hammond Organ and thought, let me see it get
> this one right.  "Picture is classic Hammond Organ"  So, two different kinds
> of apps.  Both are must-haves for any blind 

Re: goggles and Tap Tap See couldn't read one thing so used face time to get it done

2013-06-28 Thread Alan Paganelli
With Tap Tap See, here's what I've learned about cans.  Most cans have the seem 
at about 9 o'clock.  If you put the seem there, the picture on the can will 
then be at the 6 o'clock spot or directly in front of you.

It will require some playing with to find where your going to get the best 
results.  For example, on my first try I got back, picture is can of chili.  
Useful but only if you always buy one kind such as chili with beans.  If you 
buy chili with out beans then it is only 50 percent useful but then so is a 
good guess.  By moving my iPhone nearer and farther away, I could find the 
sweet spot where it would identify a 15 ounce can correctly every time.

The best results I got in my testing was with the daylight coming in over my 
shoulder and directly on the face of the can I was trying to identify.  The 
camera lens is also in the top right corner on the back of the camera I found 
myself forgetting that then trying to take the shot as if I were shooting from 
the center of my iPhone.  It helped when I had my fully sighted son look at the 
screen for me so that I would get an idea of the placement.  He helped on a 
number of shots and found out about the seem of the label on the can most of 
the times is at the 9 o'clock spot so that the picture will be facing you.  
Where you live the cans may or may not be that way but it should serve as a 
starting point.

HTH

  Alan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kellie 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 4:54 PM
  Subject: Re: goggles and Tap Tap See couldn't read one thing so used face 
time to get it done


  Hey all, first, I want to say that I finally had success with TapTapSee today 
for the first time. In the past, I got descriptions that weren't very helpful. 
I tried it  today and I first got responses that were not entirely helpful. For 
instance, I  Was trying to identify some cans and  it told me blue and yellow 
can. I took another picture and then it said canned  food. So then I turned the 
can  again and got something about nutritional facts, Then on the next try it 
told me what the can was. I figured out other cans after that pretty easily. So 
I'm rather happy that I finally got this app to work for me. S4 Goggles, I have 
not had the success that I have read everybody else has. I launched the program 
and it's in video Mode. I hold the phone  over the product but received no 
response from it whatsoever. I'm pretty sure that the built-in voice is turned 
on I also tried with it turned off and had nothing being spoken to me. I tried 
tapping the flash button to see flash off or flash on to no success. Does 
anybody know if there's a podcast out there that can give me some tips? Am I 
just not being patient enough for a response? I tried waiting for several 
seconds and don't get anything from the app. Thank you in advance for any 
suggestions or tips..

  Kellie, Loki  and my lovable Lady J  
  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jun 27, 2013, at 3:56 PM, "Alan Paganelli"  
wrote:


That's because they are two different sorts of apps.  I own both of those 
apps.  I use talking Goggles to read what's on the screens of my washing 
machine and dryer.  They both sit on pedestals and are front-loaders.  When 
they are running, they can vibrate slightly which moves the screen very 
slightly and with a still camera shot it probably be much like trying to hold 
iPhone still wile trying to scan OCR.  I've tried Tap Tap See a number of times 
and could not get it to read the screen at all but talking goggles in video 
mode can.  Now on the other hand, I've spent many an hour trying to find stuff 
that Tap Tap See couldn't identify and failed.  I have a wall clock in my 
living room.  I thought for sure I got that sucker now.  Not!  Not only did Tap 
Tap See say that was a wall clock, but it said "picture is Spartan Wall Clock"  
I said to my sighted son what's a Spartan wall clock.  He said, I don't know 
dad but let me look at the clock.  Then he starts chuckling.  Dad, Spartan is 
the brand name of the clock at the top of the face.  So I moved to my Hammond 
Organ and thought, let me see it get this one right.  "Picture is classic 
Hammond Organ"  So, two different kinds of apps.  Both are must-haves for any 
blind iPhone user.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
      To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
      Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 11:08 PM
  Subject: RE: Tap Tap See couldn't read one thing so used face time to get 
it done


  Hi Teresa,

  You should try Talking Goggles in video mode if Tap Tap See doesn't work. 
I actually ofind Tap Tap See gave me some kind of identification like "Pudding" 
or something like that. However, when I used Talking Goggles it told me that it 
was vanilla pudding which was important

Re: goggles and Tap Tap See couldn't read one thing so used face time to get it done

2013-06-27 Thread Kellie
Hey all, first, I want to say that I finally had success with TapTapSee today 
for the first time. In the past, I got descriptions that weren't very helpful. 
I tried it  today and I first got responses that were not entirely helpful. For 
instance, I  Was trying to identify some cans and  it told me blue and yellow 
can. I took another picture and then it said canned  food. So then I turned the 
can  again and got something about nutritional facts, Then on the next try it 
told me what the can was. I figured out other cans after that pretty easily. So 
I'm rather happy that I finally got this app to work for me. S4 Goggles, I have 
not had the success that I have read everybody else has. I launched the program 
and it's in video Mode. I hold the phone  over the product but received no 
response from it whatsoever. I'm pretty sure that the built-in voice is turned 
on I also tried with it turned off and had nothing being spoken to me. I tried 
tapping the flash button to see flash off or flash on to no success. Does 
anybody know if there's a podcast out there that can give me some tips? Am I 
just not being patient enough for a response? I tried waiting for several 
seconds and don't get anything from the app. Thank you in advance for any 
suggestions or tips..

Kellie, Loki  and my lovable Lady J  
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 27, 2013, at 3:56 PM, "Alan Paganelli"  
wrote:

> That's because they are two different sorts of apps.  I own both of those 
> apps.  I use talking Goggles to read what's on the screens of my washing 
> machine and dryer.  They both sit on pedestals and are front-loaders.  When 
> they are running, they can vibrate slightly which moves the screen very 
> slightly and with a still camera shot it probably be much like trying to hold 
> iPhone still wile trying to scan OCR.  I've tried Tap Tap See a number of 
> times and could not get it to read the screen at all but talking goggles in 
> video mode can.  Now on the other hand, I've spent many an hour trying to 
> find stuff that Tap Tap See couldn't identify and failed.  I have a wall 
> clock in my living room.  I thought for sure I got that sucker now.  Not!  
> Not only did Tap Tap See say that was a wall clock, but it said "picture is 
> Spartan Wall Clock"  I said to my  sighted son what's a Spartan wall clock.  
> He said, I don't know dad but let me look at the clock.  Then he starts 
> chuckling.  Dad, Spartan is the brand name of the clock at the top of the 
> face.  So I moved to my Hammond Organ and thought, let me see it get this one 
> right.  "Picture is classic Hammond Organ"  So, two different kinds of apps.  
> Both are must-haves for any blind iPhone user.
> ----- Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 11:08 PM
> Subject: RE: Tap Tap See couldn't read one thing so used face time to get it 
> done
> 
> Hi Teresa,
> 
> You should try Talking Goggles in video mode if Tap Tap See doesn't work. I 
> actually ofind Tap Tap See gave me some kind of identification like "Pudding" 
> or something like that. However, when I used Talking Goggles it told me that 
> it was vanilla pudding which was important since I have the exact same 
> packaging but as chocolate pudding. /Talking Goggles will do amazing OCR 
> which is something Tap Tap See doesn't do.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Teresa Christian
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:28 PM
> To: viphone
> Subject: Tap Tap See couldn't read one thing so used face time to get it done
> 
> So yesterday I was ranting and raving about using Tap Tap See and I used it 
> again tonight to identify more cans, bottles and boxes, more shouts of joy. 
> There was one bottle of supplements it couldn't read. I have been wanting to 
> try face time so did that with my daughter and she was able to tell me what 
> it was.
> 
> Also with Tap Tap See, I was able to identify an ATM on the street the other 
> day while exploring the neighborhood.
> 
> This iphone is becoming more and more useful every day.
> 
> Thanks to every single person on this list. You are encouraging and inspiring 
> and enlightening as well.
> 
> Take good care,
> 
> Teresa
> 
> --
> Challenge is a dragon with a gift in its mouth.
> Tame the dragon and the gift is yours.
> 
> Create yourself a fabulous day! ☺
> 
> Teresa
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Re: Tap Tap See couldn't read one thing so used face time to get it done

2013-06-27 Thread Alan Paganelli
That's because they are two different sorts of apps.  I own both of those apps. 
 I use talking Goggles to read what's on the screens of my washing machine and 
dryer.  They both sit on pedestals and are front-loaders.  When they are 
running, they can vibrate slightly which moves the screen very slightly and 
with a still camera shot it probably be much like trying to hold iPhone still 
wile trying to scan OCR.  I've tried Tap Tap See a number of times and could 
not get it to read the screen at all but talking goggles in video mode can.  
Now on the other hand, I've spent many an hour trying to find stuff that Tap 
Tap See couldn't identify and failed.  I have a wall clock in my living room.  
I thought for sure I got that sucker now.  Not!  Not only did Tap Tap See say 
that was a wall clock, but it said "picture is Spartan Wall Clock"  I said to 
my sighted son what's a Spartan wall clock.  He said, I don't know dad but let 
me look at the clock.  Then he starts chuckling.  Dad, Spartan is the brand 
name of the clock at the top of the face.  So I moved to my Hammond Organ and 
thought, let me see it get this one right.  "Picture is classic Hammond Organ"  
So, two different kinds of apps.  Both are must-haves for any blind iPhone user.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 11:08 PM
  Subject: RE: Tap Tap See couldn't read one thing so used face time to get it 
done


  Hi Teresa,

  You should try Talking Goggles in video mode if Tap Tap See doesn't work. I 
actually ofind Tap Tap See gave me some kind of identification like "Pudding" 
or something like that. However, when I used Talking Goggles it told me that it 
was vanilla pudding which was important since I have the exact same packaging 
but as chocolate pudding. /Talking Goggles will do amazing OCR which is 
something Tap Tap See doesn't do.

  Regards,
  Sieghard


  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Teresa Christian
  Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:28 PM
  To: viphone
  Subject: Tap Tap See couldn't read one thing so used face time to get it done

  So yesterday I was ranting and raving about using Tap Tap See and I used it 
again tonight to identify more cans, bottles and boxes, more shouts of joy. 
There was one bottle of supplements it couldn't read. I have been wanting to 
try face time so did that with my daughter and she was able to tell me what it 
was.

  Also with Tap Tap See, I was able to identify an ATM on the street the other 
day while exploring the neighborhood.

  This iphone is becoming more and more useful every day.

  Thanks to every single person on this list. You are encouraging and inspiring 
and enlightening as well.

  Take good care,

  Teresa

  --
  Challenge is a dragon with a gift in its mouth.
  Tame the dragon and the gift is yours.

  Create yourself a fabulous day! ☺

  Teresa

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RE: Tap Tap See couldn't read one thing so used face time to get it done

2013-06-27 Thread AppleGourmet
Hi! Can you please give me a few hints on how to use talking goggles? Is there 
any podcasts? Any hints would be highly appreciated! Thank you. Y

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RE: Tap Tap See couldn't read one thing so used face time to get it done

2013-06-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Teresa,

You should try Talking Goggles in video mode if Tap Tap See doesn't work. I 
actually ofind Tap Tap See gave me some kind of identification like "Pudding" 
or something like that. However, when I used Talking Goggles it told me that it 
was vanilla pudding which was important since I have the exact same packaging 
but as chocolate pudding. /Talking Goggles will do amazing OCR which is 
something Tap Tap See doesn't do.

Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Teresa Christian
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:28 PM
To: viphone
Subject: Tap Tap See couldn't read one thing so used face time to get it done

So yesterday I was ranting and raving about using Tap Tap See and I used it 
again tonight to identify more cans, bottles and boxes, more shouts of joy. 
There was one bottle of supplements it couldn't read. I have been wanting to 
try face time so did that with my daughter and she was able to tell me what it 
was.

Also with Tap Tap See, I was able to identify an ATM on the street the other 
day while exploring the neighborhood.

This iphone is becoming more and more useful every day.

Thanks to every single person on this list. You are encouraging and inspiring 
and enlightening as well.

Take good care,

Teresa

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Tame the dragon and the gift is yours.

Create yourself a fabulous day! ☺

Teresa

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Tap Tap See couldn't read one thing so used face time to get it done

2013-06-26 Thread Teresa Christian
So yesterday I was ranting and raving about using Tap Tap See and I
used it again tonight to identify more cans, bottles and boxes, more
shouts of joy. There was one bottle of supplements it couldn't read. I
have been wanting to try face time so did that with my daughter and
she was able to tell me what it was.

Also with Tap Tap See, I was able to identify an ATM on the street the
other day while exploring the neighborhood.

This iphone is becoming more and more useful every day.

Thanks to every single person on this list. You are encouraging and
inspiring and enlightening as well.

Take good care,

Teresa

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Challenge is a dragon with a gift in its mouth.
Tame the dragon and the gift is yours.

Create yourself a fabulous day! ☺

Teresa

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