Re: Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET

2017-07-07 Thread Scott Davert
This is true, Chris, but I'm seeing bad behavior on the public beta 1
that I have not seen in developer beta 1 or 2. I'm hoping Monday we
will see the next beta release!

Scott

On 7/7/17, christopher hallsworth  wrote:
> Hello, I believe public beta 1 is essentially based on the first round of
> developer beta 2, not the second. Thoughts?
>> On 7 Jul 2017, at 20:37, Scott Davert  wrote:
>>
>> Yes, it's working, but I'm on Developer beta 2. I have reason to
>> believe that these 2 builds are different based on some bug reports I
>> can't reproduce that have been happening on the public beta side. Most
>> of them are braille related, so I'm guessing no one here can try them.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 7/7/17, christopher hallsworth  wrote:
>>> Hello, very slow on both my iPad Mini 2 and 6th generation iPod Touch,
>>> remember this is an early beta, expect to improve dramatically in the
>>> coming
>>> betas.
 On 4 Jul 2017, at 15:12, rajmund  wrote:

 anyone actually got this to work in the public beta, please?
 I just see help and listen.
 On 03/07/17 3:12 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
> CNET How To - Friday, June 30, 2017 at 11:03 AM
> Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET
> Matt Elliott/CNET
> Here's how my conversations with Siri usually go: press the Home
> button,
> ask
> a question, realize I spoke before Siri was listening, press the Home
> button
> again, ask the question, repeat the question because Siri misheard me,
> ask
> again but louder because Siri still didn't get it right, curse Siri's
> name,
> open the Google search app and ask it my question or just type it in.
> Siri has some work to do, but with iOS 11 you can type or talk to
> Siri.
> Not
> only does typing your queries to Siri avoid the issue of Siri
> mishearing
> you, but it's also useful when you are sitting in a quiet coffee shop
> or
> movie theater and want to ask Siri something.
> To enable the feature, go to Settings > General > Accessibility > Siri
> and
> toggle on Type to Siri. Now, when you long-press the Home button, Siri
> will
> pop up with her familiar "What can I help you with?" question but with
> a
> search bar and keyboard below.
> Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET
> If you want both options of typing and talking to Siri, you can enable
> the
> "Hey, Siri" command so that you can utter those magic words to speak
> to
> Siri
> and long-press the Home button to type to Siri. You'll find the Hey
> Siri
> setting by going to Settings > Siri & Search.
> Read more: All the tips, tricks and new features of iOS 11
> https://www.cnet.com/how-to/type-instead-of-talk-to-siri-with-ios-11/#ftag=C
> AD5457c2c

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Re: Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET

2017-07-07 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hello, I believe public beta 1 is essentially based on the first round of 
developer beta 2, not the second. Thoughts?
> On 7 Jul 2017, at 20:37, Scott Davert  wrote:
> 
> Yes, it's working, but I'm on Developer beta 2. I have reason to
> believe that these 2 builds are different based on some bug reports I
> can't reproduce that have been happening on the public beta side. Most
> of them are braille related, so I'm guessing no one here can try them.
> 
> Scott
> 
> On 7/7/17, christopher hallsworth  wrote:
>> Hello, very slow on both my iPad Mini 2 and 6th generation iPod Touch,
>> remember this is an early beta, expect to improve dramatically in the coming
>> betas.
>>> On 4 Jul 2017, at 15:12, rajmund  wrote:
>>> 
>>> anyone actually got this to work in the public beta, please?
>>> I just see help and listen.
>>> On 03/07/17 3:12 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
 CNET How To - Friday, June 30, 2017 at 11:03 AM
 Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET
 Matt Elliott/CNET
 Here's how my conversations with Siri usually go: press the Home button,
 ask
 a question, realize I spoke before Siri was listening, press the Home
 button
 again, ask the question, repeat the question because Siri misheard me,
 ask
 again but louder because Siri still didn't get it right, curse Siri's
 name,
 open the Google search app and ask it my question or just type it in.
 Siri has some work to do, but with iOS 11 you can type or talk to Siri.
 Not
 only does typing your queries to Siri avoid the issue of Siri mishearing
 you, but it's also useful when you are sitting in a quiet coffee shop or
 movie theater and want to ask Siri something.
 To enable the feature, go to Settings > General > Accessibility > Siri
 and
 toggle on Type to Siri. Now, when you long-press the Home button, Siri
 will
 pop up with her familiar "What can I help you with?" question but with a
 search bar and keyboard below.
 Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET
 If you want both options of typing and talking to Siri, you can enable
 the
 "Hey, Siri" command so that you can utter those magic words to speak to
 Siri
 and long-press the Home button to type to Siri. You'll find the Hey Siri
 setting by going to Settings > Siri & Search.
 Read more: All the tips, tricks and new features of iOS 11
 https://www.cnet.com/how-to/type-instead-of-talk-to-siri-with-ios-11/#ftag=C
 AD5457c2c
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Re: Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET

2017-07-07 Thread Scott Davert
Yes, it's working, but I'm on Developer beta 2. I have reason to
believe that these 2 builds are different based on some bug reports I
can't reproduce that have been happening on the public beta side. Most
of them are braille related, so I'm guessing no one here can try them.

Scott

On 7/7/17, christopher hallsworth  wrote:
> Hello, very slow on both my iPad Mini 2 and 6th generation iPod Touch,
> remember this is an early beta, expect to improve dramatically in the coming
> betas.
>> On 4 Jul 2017, at 15:12, rajmund  wrote:
>>
>> anyone actually got this to work in the public beta, please?
>> I just see help and listen.
>> On 03/07/17 3:12 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>> CNET How To - Friday, June 30, 2017 at 11:03 AM
>>> Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET
>>> Matt Elliott/CNET
>>> Here's how my conversations with Siri usually go: press the Home button,
>>> ask
>>> a question, realize I spoke before Siri was listening, press the Home
>>> button
>>> again, ask the question, repeat the question because Siri misheard me,
>>> ask
>>> again but louder because Siri still didn't get it right, curse Siri's
>>> name,
>>> open the Google search app and ask it my question or just type it in.
>>> Siri has some work to do, but with iOS 11 you can type or talk to Siri.
>>> Not
>>> only does typing your queries to Siri avoid the issue of Siri mishearing
>>> you, but it's also useful when you are sitting in a quiet coffee shop or
>>> movie theater and want to ask Siri something.
>>> To enable the feature, go to Settings > General > Accessibility > Siri
>>> and
>>> toggle on Type to Siri. Now, when you long-press the Home button, Siri
>>> will
>>> pop up with her familiar "What can I help you with?" question but with a
>>> search bar and keyboard below.
>>>  Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET
>>> If you want both options of typing and talking to Siri, you can enable
>>> the
>>> "Hey, Siri" command so that you can utter those magic words to speak to
>>> Siri
>>> and long-press the Home button to type to Siri. You'll find the Hey Siri
>>> setting by going to Settings > Siri & Search.
>>> Read more: All the tips, tricks and new features of iOS 11
>>> https://www.cnet.com/how-to/type-instead-of-talk-to-siri-with-ios-11/#ftag=C
>>> AD5457c2c
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Re: Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET

2017-07-07 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hello, very slow on both my iPad Mini 2 and 6th generation iPod Touch, remember 
this is an early beta, expect to improve dramatically in the coming betas.
> On 4 Jul 2017, at 15:12, rajmund  wrote:
> 
> anyone actually got this to work in the public beta, please?
> I just see help and listen.
> On 03/07/17 3:12 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> CNET How To - Friday, June 30, 2017 at 11:03 AM
>> Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET
>> Matt Elliott/CNET
>> Here's how my conversations with Siri usually go: press the Home button, ask
>> a question, realize I spoke before Siri was listening, press the Home button
>> again, ask the question, repeat the question because Siri misheard me, ask
>> again but louder because Siri still didn't get it right, curse Siri's name,
>> open the Google search app and ask it my question or just type it in.
>> Siri has some work to do, but with iOS 11 you can type or talk to Siri. Not
>> only does typing your queries to Siri avoid the issue of Siri mishearing
>> you, but it's also useful when you are sitting in a quiet coffee shop or
>> movie theater and want to ask Siri something.
>> To enable the feature, go to Settings > General > Accessibility > Siri and
>> toggle on Type to Siri. Now, when you long-press the Home button, Siri will
>> pop up with her familiar "What can I help you with?" question but with a
>> search bar and keyboard below.
>>  Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET
>> If you want both options of typing and talking to Siri, you can enable the
>> "Hey, Siri" command so that you can utter those magic words to speak to Siri
>> and long-press the Home button to type to Siri. You'll find the Hey Siri
>> setting by going to Settings > Siri & Search.
>> Read more: All the tips, tricks and new features of iOS 11
>> https://www.cnet.com/how-to/type-instead-of-talk-to-siri-with-ios-11/#ftag=C
>> AD5457c2c
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Re: Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET

2017-07-04 Thread rajmund

anyone actually got this to work in the public beta, please?
I just see help and listen.
On 03/07/17 3:12 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

CNET How To - Friday, June 30, 2017 at 11:03 AM

Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET
Matt Elliott/CNET

Here's how my conversations with Siri usually go: press the Home button, ask
a question, realize I spoke before Siri was listening, press the Home button
again, ask the question, repeat the question because Siri misheard me, ask
again but louder because Siri still didn't get it right, curse Siri's name,
open the Google search app and ask it my question or just type it in.
Siri has some work to do, but with iOS 11 you can type or talk to Siri. Not
only does typing your queries to Siri avoid the issue of Siri mishearing
you, but it's also useful when you are sitting in a quiet coffee shop or
movie theater and want to ask Siri something.
To enable the feature, go to Settings > General > Accessibility > Siri and
toggle on Type to Siri. Now, when you long-press the Home button, Siri will
pop up with her familiar "What can I help you with?" question but with a
search bar and keyboard below.
  Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET
If you want both options of typing and talking to Siri, you can enable the
"Hey, Siri" command so that you can utter those magic words to speak to Siri
and long-press the Home button to type to Siri. You'll find the Hey Siri
setting by going to Settings > Siri & Search.
Read more: All the tips, tricks and new features of iOS 11
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/type-instead-of-talk-to-siri-with-ios-11/#ftag=C
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Re: Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET

2017-07-03 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi, wow. I don't have a compatible Braille display, so will have no way to test 
this.
> On 3 Jul 2017, at 20:11, Scott Davert  wrote:
> 
> If you have a braille display, it's even possible to set up a custom
> keyboard shortcut to do this. This is also public info, in case anyone
> is wondering. Not sure what VIPhone's policies are on that these
> days
> 
> Scott
> 
> On 7/3/17, christopher hallsworth  wrote:
>> Hi, I can see myself using this, even though I am both visually and hearing
>> impaired.
>>> On 3 Jul 2017, at 18:25, Scott Davert  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Kevin.
>>> You may wish to email Apple with that suggestion. maybe it's early
>>> enough in the beta cycle where they could make this work. I can't
>>> imagine it would be too difficult.
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> On 7/3/17, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
 This is awesome since it enables those who are deaf or deaf-blind to
 use Siri, not to mention those that have trouble in getting Siri to
 hear/understand their speech.
 
 Wayne
 
 On 7/2/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
> CNET How To - Friday, June 30, 2017 at 11:03 AM
> 
> Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET
> Matt Elliott/CNET
> 
> Here's how my conversations with Siri usually go: press the Home
> button,
> ask
> a question, realize I spoke before Siri was listening, press the Home
> button
> again, ask the question, repeat the question because Siri misheard me,
> ask
> again but louder because Siri still didn't get it right, curse Siri's
> name,
> open the Google search app and ask it my question or just type it in.
> Siri has some work to do, but with iOS 11 you can type or talk to Siri.
> Not
> only does typing your queries to Siri avoid the issue of Siri
> mishearing
> you, but it's also useful when you are sitting in a quiet coffee shop
> or
> movie theater and want to ask Siri something.
> To enable the feature, go to Settings > General > Accessibility > Siri
> and
> toggle on Type to Siri. Now, when you long-press the Home button, Siri
> will
> pop up with her familiar "What can I help you with?" question but with
> a
> search bar and keyboard below.
> Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET
> If you want both options of typing and talking to Siri, you can enable
> the
> "Hey, Siri" command so that you can utter those magic words to speak to
> Siri
> and long-press the Home button to type to Siri. You'll find the Hey
> Siri
> setting by going to Settings > Siri & Search.
> Read more: All the tips, tricks and new features of iOS 11
> https://www.cnet.com/how-to/type-instead-of-talk-to-siri-with-ios-11/#ftag=C
> AD5457c2c
> 
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Re: Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET

2017-07-03 Thread Scott Davert
If you have a braille display, it's even possible to set up a custom
keyboard shortcut to do this. This is also public info, in case anyone
is wondering. Not sure what VIPhone's policies are on that these
days

Scott

On 7/3/17, christopher hallsworth  wrote:
> Hi, I can see myself using this, even though I am both visually and hearing
> impaired.
>> On 3 Jul 2017, at 18:25, Scott Davert  wrote:
>>
>> Hey Kevin.
>> You may wish to email Apple with that suggestion. maybe it's early
>> enough in the beta cycle where they could make this work. I can't
>> imagine it would be too difficult.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 7/3/17, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>> This is awesome since it enables those who are deaf or deaf-blind to
>>> use Siri, not to mention those that have trouble in getting Siri to
>>> hear/understand their speech.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>> On 7/2/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
 CNET How To - Friday, June 30, 2017 at 11:03 AM

 Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET
 Matt Elliott/CNET

 Here's how my conversations with Siri usually go: press the Home
 button,
 ask
 a question, realize I spoke before Siri was listening, press the Home
 button
 again, ask the question, repeat the question because Siri misheard me,
 ask
 again but louder because Siri still didn't get it right, curse Siri's
 name,
 open the Google search app and ask it my question or just type it in.
 Siri has some work to do, but with iOS 11 you can type or talk to Siri.
 Not
 only does typing your queries to Siri avoid the issue of Siri
 mishearing
 you, but it's also useful when you are sitting in a quiet coffee shop
 or
 movie theater and want to ask Siri something.
 To enable the feature, go to Settings > General > Accessibility > Siri
 and
 toggle on Type to Siri. Now, when you long-press the Home button, Siri
 will
 pop up with her familiar "What can I help you with?" question but with
 a
 search bar and keyboard below.
 Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET
 If you want both options of typing and talking to Siri, you can enable
 the
 "Hey, Siri" command so that you can utter those magic words to speak to
 Siri
 and long-press the Home button to type to Siri. You'll find the Hey
 Siri
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Re: Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET

2017-07-03 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi, I can see myself using this, even though I am both visually and hearing 
impaired.
> On 3 Jul 2017, at 18:25, Scott Davert  wrote:
> 
> Hey Kevin.
> You may wish to email Apple with that suggestion. maybe it's early
> enough in the beta cycle where they could make this work. I can't
> imagine it would be too difficult.
> 
> Scott
> 
> On 7/3/17, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>> This is awesome since it enables those who are deaf or deaf-blind to
>> use Siri, not to mention those that have trouble in getting Siri to
>> hear/understand their speech.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>> On 7/2/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> CNET How To - Friday, June 30, 2017 at 11:03 AM
>>> 
>>> Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET
>>> Matt Elliott/CNET
>>> 
>>> Here's how my conversations with Siri usually go: press the Home button,
>>> ask
>>> a question, realize I spoke before Siri was listening, press the Home
>>> button
>>> again, ask the question, repeat the question because Siri misheard me,
>>> ask
>>> again but louder because Siri still didn't get it right, curse Siri's
>>> name,
>>> open the Google search app and ask it my question or just type it in.
>>> Siri has some work to do, but with iOS 11 you can type or talk to Siri.
>>> Not
>>> only does typing your queries to Siri avoid the issue of Siri mishearing
>>> you, but it's also useful when you are sitting in a quiet coffee shop or
>>> movie theater and want to ask Siri something.
>>> To enable the feature, go to Settings > General > Accessibility > Siri
>>> and
>>> toggle on Type to Siri. Now, when you long-press the Home button, Siri
>>> will
>>> pop up with her familiar "What can I help you with?" question but with a
>>> search bar and keyboard below.
>>> Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET
>>> If you want both options of typing and talking to Siri, you can enable
>>> the
>>> "Hey, Siri" command so that you can utter those magic words to speak to
>>> Siri
>>> and long-press the Home button to type to Siri. You'll find the Hey Siri
>>> setting by going to Settings > Siri & Search.
>>> Read more: All the tips, tricks and new features of iOS 11
>>> https://www.cnet.com/how-to/type-instead-of-talk-to-siri-with-ios-11/#ftag=C
>>> AD5457c2c
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Re: Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET

2017-07-03 Thread Scott Davert
Hey Kevin.
You may wish to email Apple with that suggestion. maybe it's early
enough in the beta cycle where they could make this work. I can't
imagine it would be too difficult.

Scott

On 7/3/17, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> This is awesome since it enables those who are deaf or deaf-blind to
> use Siri, not to mention those that have trouble in getting Siri to
> hear/understand their speech.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 7/2/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> CNET How To - Friday, June 30, 2017 at 11:03 AM
>>
>> Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET
>> Matt Elliott/CNET
>>
>> Here's how my conversations with Siri usually go: press the Home button,
>> ask
>> a question, realize I spoke before Siri was listening, press the Home
>> button
>> again, ask the question, repeat the question because Siri misheard me,
>> ask
>> again but louder because Siri still didn't get it right, curse Siri's
>> name,
>> open the Google search app and ask it my question or just type it in.
>> Siri has some work to do, but with iOS 11 you can type or talk to Siri.
>> Not
>> only does typing your queries to Siri avoid the issue of Siri mishearing
>> you, but it's also useful when you are sitting in a quiet coffee shop or
>> movie theater and want to ask Siri something.
>> To enable the feature, go to Settings > General > Accessibility > Siri
>> and
>> toggle on Type to Siri. Now, when you long-press the Home button, Siri
>> will
>> pop up with her familiar "What can I help you with?" question but with a
>> search bar and keyboard below.
>>  Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET
>> If you want both options of typing and talking to Siri, you can enable
>> the
>> "Hey, Siri" command so that you can utter those magic words to speak to
>> Siri
>> and long-press the Home button to type to Siri. You'll find the Hey Siri
>> setting by going to Settings > Siri & Search.
>> Read more: All the tips, tricks and new features of iOS 11
>> https://www.cnet.com/how-to/type-instead-of-talk-to-siri-with-ios-11/#ftag=C
>> AD5457c2c
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Re: Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET

2017-07-03 Thread Wayne Merritt
This is awesome since it enables those who are deaf or deaf-blind to
use Siri, not to mention those that have trouble in getting Siri to
hear/understand their speech.

Wayne

On 7/2/17, M. Taylor  wrote:
> CNET How To - Friday, June 30, 2017 at 11:03 AM
>
> Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET
> Matt Elliott/CNET
>
> Here's how my conversations with Siri usually go: press the Home button,
> ask
> a question, realize I spoke before Siri was listening, press the Home
> button
> again, ask the question, repeat the question because Siri misheard me, ask
> again but louder because Siri still didn't get it right, curse Siri's name,
> open the Google search app and ask it my question or just type it in.
> Siri has some work to do, but with iOS 11 you can type or talk to Siri. Not
> only does typing your queries to Siri avoid the issue of Siri mishearing
> you, but it's also useful when you are sitting in a quiet coffee shop or
> movie theater and want to ask Siri something.
> To enable the feature, go to Settings > General > Accessibility > Siri and
> toggle on Type to Siri. Now, when you long-press the Home button, Siri will
> pop up with her familiar "What can I help you with?" question but with a
> search bar and keyboard below.
>  Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET
> If you want both options of typing and talking to Siri, you can enable the
> "Hey, Siri" command so that you can utter those magic words to speak to
> Siri
> and long-press the Home button to type to Siri. You'll find the Hey Siri
> setting by going to Settings > Siri & Search.
> Read more: All the tips, tricks and new features of iOS 11
> https://www.cnet.com/how-to/type-instead-of-talk-to-siri-with-ios-11/#ftag=C
> AD5457c2c
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Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET

2017-07-02 Thread M. Taylor
CNET How To - Friday, June 30, 2017 at 11:03 AM

Type instead of talk to Siri with iOS 11 - CNET
Matt Elliott/CNET 

Here's how my conversations with Siri usually go: press the Home button, ask
a question, realize I spoke before Siri was listening, press the Home button
again, ask the question, repeat the question because Siri misheard me, ask
again but louder because Siri still didn't get it right, curse Siri's name,
open the Google search app and ask it my question or just type it in.
Siri has some work to do, but with iOS 11 you can type or talk to Siri. Not
only does typing your queries to Siri avoid the issue of Siri mishearing
you, but it's also useful when you are sitting in a quiet coffee shop or
movie theater and want to ask Siri something.
To enable the feature, go to Settings > General > Accessibility > Siri and
toggle on Type to Siri. Now, when you long-press the Home button, Siri will
pop up with her familiar "What can I help you with?" question but with a
search bar and keyboard below.
 Screenshot by Matt Elliott/CNET 
If you want both options of typing and talking to Siri, you can enable the
"Hey, Siri" command so that you can utter those magic words to speak to Siri
and long-press the Home button to type to Siri. You'll find the Hey Siri
setting by going to Settings > Siri & Search.
Read more: All the tips, tricks and new features of iOS 11
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/type-instead-of-talk-to-siri-with-ios-11/#ftag=C
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