Re: accessible hymnal app?

2016-07-09 Thread goshawk on horseback
it would be, if I had them available in that format in the first place. 

Simon 


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  From: Caitlyn Furness 
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  Subject: Re: accessible hymnal app?


  Might another option be to put the words into a text file, one file for each 
song?


  I did this with songs from church and put them into braille for myself, now 
all I have to do is take the relevant ones with me each week..


  hth,
  Cait


On Jul 9, 2016, at 1:15 AM, goshawk on horseback 
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unless I am missing something, I don't think it works like that over here. 
one can send books to somewhere like RNIB, to get them put in to audio, but 
with something like this, I really need an electronic version that I can search 
easily for the hymn numbers and/or titles, which given the number of songs in 
mission praise for example, would be very hard if not impossible to do in an 
audio version, as I would need 4 completely different ones for every sunday. 
for example, this coming sunday, I would need numbers 1371 When I stand before 
Your throne, 1036 Blessed be Your Name, 876 Let the song go round the earth, 
and 1164 Come, O Fount of every blessing. in an audio version, this would mean 
hunting through god only knows how many disks to try to find the relevant ones, 
rather than being able to easily search through an electronic version. 

Simon 


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  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 5:57 AM
  Subject: Re: accessible hymnal app?


  Hi Simon,
  In the United States, where I am, if I buy a print book, I can send proof 
of purchase to the publisher and get an accessible version.
  I don't know anything about the laws in the UK.
  But, yes, 60 pounds a year is a bit crazy when a sighted person can buy 
the hymnal with music for less than $30 and the words only copy for less than 
$20.
  I certainly understand the frustration.
  Richard


  "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure 
 they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues." – Elizabeth Taylor


  (Sent from my iPod 6)

  On Jul 8, 2016, at 9:24 PM, goshawk on horseback 
<goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:


already looked in to this, and the only online version of mission 
praise costs £60 a year to access, which I am not really that happy with. 
because of poxy copy right issues, even somewhere like torch trust 
can't produce an accessible version, as I have also looked in to that. 

Simon 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 5:08 AM
  Subject: Re: accessible hymnal app?




  Christian Book Distributers sells a words only edition. What about 
contacting the publisher to see if you could get a text version, then you could 
put it into Voice Dream Reader, and read it that way, or another app.
  Richard


  "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty 
sure  they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues." – Elizabeth Taylor 


  (Sent from my iPod 6)

  On Jul 8, 2016, at 8:46 PM, goshawk on horseback 
<goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:


hello all, 
wondered if anyone knows of a voice-over accessible hymnal app? 
if at all possible, the closer it could be to mission praise, the 
better. 

Simon 




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Re: accessible hymnal app?

2016-07-09 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Might another option be to put the words into a text file, one file for each 
song?

I did this with songs from church and put them into braille for myself, now all 
I have to do is take the relevant ones with me each week..

hth,
Cait

> On Jul 9, 2016, at 1:15 AM, goshawk on horseback 
> <goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> unless I am missing something, I don't think it works like that over here. 
> one can send books to somewhere like RNIB, to get them put in to audio, but 
> with something like this, I really need an electronic version that I can 
> search easily for the hymn numbers and/or titles, which given the number of 
> songs in mission praise for example, would be very hard if not impossible to 
> do in an audio version, as I would need 4 completely different ones for every 
> sunday. for example, this coming sunday, I would need numbers 1371 When I 
> stand before Your throne, 1036 Blessed be Your Name, 876 Let the song go 
> round the earth, and 1164 Come, O Fount of every blessing. in an audio 
> version, this would mean hunting through god only knows how many disks to try 
> to find the relevant ones, rather than being able to easily search through an 
> electronic version. 
>  
> Simon 
>  
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 5:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: accessible hymnal app?
>> 
>> Hi Simon,
>> In the United States, where I am, if I buy a print book, I can send proof of 
>> purchase to the publisher and get an accessible version.
>> I don't know anything about the laws in the UK.
>> But, yes, 60 pounds a year is a bit crazy when a sighted person can buy the 
>> hymnal with music for less than $30 and the words only copy for less than 
>> $20.
>> I certainly understand the frustration.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure  
>> they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues." – Elizabeth Taylor
>> 
>> (Sent from my iPod 6)
>> 
>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 9:24 PM, goshawk on horseback 
>> <goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk 
>> <mailto:goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>>> already looked in to this, and the only online version of mission praise 
>>> costs £60 a year to access, which I am not really that happy with. 
>>> because of poxy copy right issues, even somewhere like torch trust can't 
>>> produce an accessible version, as I have also looked in to that. 
>>>  
>>> Simon 
>>>  
>>>  
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 5:08 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: accessible hymnal app?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Christian Book Distributers sells a words only edition. What about 
>>>> contacting the publisher to see if you could get a text version, then you 
>>>> could put it into Voice Dream Reader, and read it that way, or another app.
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure  
>>>> they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues." – Elizabeth Taylor 
>>>> 
>>>> (Sent from my iPod 6)
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 8:46 PM, goshawk on horseback 
>>>> <goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk 
>>>> <mailto:goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> hello all, 
>>>>> wondered if anyone knows of a voice-over accessible hymnal app? 
>>>>> if at all possible, the closer it could be to mission praise, the better. 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Simon 
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
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Re: accessible hymnal app?

2016-07-08 Thread goshawk on horseback
unless I am missing something, I don't think it works like that over here. 
one can send books to somewhere like RNIB, to get them put in to audio, but 
with something like this, I really need an electronic version that I can search 
easily for the hymn numbers and/or titles, which given the number of songs in 
mission praise for example, would be very hard if not impossible to do in an 
audio version, as I would need 4 completely different ones for every sunday. 
for example, this coming sunday, I would need numbers 1371 When I stand before 
Your throne, 1036 Blessed be Your Name, 876 Let the song go round the earth, 
and 1164 Come, O Fount of every blessing. in an audio version, this would mean 
hunting through god only knows how many disks to try to find the relevant ones, 
rather than being able to easily search through an electronic version. 

Simon 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 5:57 AM
  Subject: Re: accessible hymnal app?


  Hi Simon,
  In the United States, where I am, if I buy a print book, I can send proof of 
purchase to the publisher and get an accessible version.
  I don't know anything about the laws in the UK.
  But, yes, 60 pounds a year is a bit crazy when a sighted person can buy the 
hymnal with music for less than $30 and the words only copy for less than $20.
  I certainly understand the frustration.
  Richard


  "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure  
they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues." – Elizabeth Taylor


  (Sent from my iPod 6)

  On Jul 8, 2016, at 9:24 PM, goshawk on horseback 
<goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:


already looked in to this, and the only online version of mission praise 
costs £60 a year to access, which I am not really that happy with. 
because of poxy copy right issues, even somewhere like torch trust can't 
produce an accessible version, as I have also looked in to that. 

Simon 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 5:08 AM
      Subject: Re: accessible hymnal app?




  Christian Book Distributers sells a words only edition. What about 
contacting the publisher to see if you could get a text version, then you could 
put it into Voice Dream Reader, and read it that way, or another app.
  Richard


  "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure 
 they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues." – Elizabeth Taylor 


  (Sent from my iPod 6)

  On Jul 8, 2016, at 8:46 PM, goshawk on horseback 
<goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:


hello all, 
wondered if anyone knows of a voice-over accessible hymnal app? 
if at all possible, the closer it could be to mission praise, the 
better. 

Simon 



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Re: accessible hymnal app?

2016-07-08 Thread Richard Turner
Hi Simon,
In the United States, where I am, if I buy a print book, I can send proof of 
purchase to the publisher and get an accessible version.
I don't know anything about the laws in the UK.
But, yes, 60 pounds a year is a bit crazy when a sighted person can buy the 
hymnal with music for less than $30 and the words only copy for less than $20.
I certainly understand the frustration.
Richard


"The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure  they 
are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues." – Elizabeth Taylor

(Sent from my iPod 6)

> On Jul 8, 2016, at 9:24 PM, goshawk on horseback 
> <goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> already looked in to this, and the only online version of mission praise 
> costs £60 a year to access, which I am not really that happy with.
> because of poxy copy right issues, even somewhere like torch trust can't 
> produce an accessible version, as I have also looked in to that.
>  
> Simon
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 5:08 AM
> Subject: Re: accessible hymnal app?
> 
> 
> Christian Book Distributers sells a words only edition. What about contacting 
> the publisher to see if you could get a text version, then you could put it 
> into Voice Dream Reader, and read it that way, or another app.
> Richard
> 
> 
> "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure  
> they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues." – Elizabeth Taylor
> 
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
> 
>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 8:46 PM, goshawk on horseback 
>> <goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> hello all,
>> wondered if anyone knows of a voice-over accessible hymnal app?
>> if at all possible, the closer it could be to  mission praise, the 
>> better.
>>  
>> Simon
>>  
>>  
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Re: accessible hymnal app?

2016-07-08 Thread goshawk on horseback
already looked in to this, and the only online version of mission praise costs 
£60 a year to access, which I am not really that happy with. 
because of poxy copy right issues, even somewhere like torch trust can't 
produce an accessible version, as I have also looked in to that. 

Simon 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 5:08 AM
  Subject: Re: accessible hymnal app?




  Christian Book Distributers sells a words only edition. What about contacting 
the publisher to see if you could get a text version, then you could put it 
into Voice Dream Reader, and read it that way, or another app.
  Richard


  "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure  
they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues." – Elizabeth Taylor


  (Sent from my iPod 6)

  On Jul 8, 2016, at 8:46 PM, goshawk on horseback 
<goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:


hello all, 
wondered if anyone knows of a voice-over accessible hymnal app? 
if at all possible, the closer it could be to mission praise, the better. 

Simon 



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Re: accessible hymnal app?

2016-07-08 Thread Richard Turner

Christian Book Distributers sells a words only edition. What about contacting 
the publisher to see if you could get a text version, then you could put it 
into Voice Dream Reader, and read it that way, or another app.
Richard


"The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure  they 
are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues." – Elizabeth Taylor

(Sent from my iPod 6)

> On Jul 8, 2016, at 8:46 PM, goshawk on horseback 
> <goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> hello all,
> wondered if anyone knows of a voice-over accessible hymnal app?
> if at all possible, the closer it could be to mission praise, the better.
>  
> Simon
>  
>  
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accessible hymnal app?

2016-07-08 Thread goshawk on horseback
hello all, 
wondered if anyone knows of a voice-over accessible hymnal app? 
if at all possible, the closer it could be to mission praise, the better. 

Simon 

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