Re: iOS 10, iMessages and braille screen input question

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi again!
Actually not. If you double tap the text field in iMessage and
  raise the phone to your ear you'll hear the sound and you can
  begin to talk. The moment you take  your device down the audio
  iMessage will be sent. If you have your device unlocked and
  receive audio iMessage when you raise the phone you can listen to
  it.



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20.9.2016. u 14:18, Chris Chaffin je
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Thank you very much, I have
  been trying to figure that out for a long time!
Since that setting has to do
  with messages received, I never considered it.


Thanks again,


Chris


  
  
On Sep 20, 2016, at 2:27 AM, Gordan Radić 
wrote:

  
  

  
  Hi, Chris!
  This is happening because you have turned on raise to speak
feature in Settings, Messages.
  
  
  
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  20.9.2016. u 0:20, Chris Chaffin
je napisao/la:
  
  


  
  
  No, but I did send a
email explaining everything back when I started having
the problem in iOS 8.
  I will give them a call
and talk to a live person to see what they say.
  
  
  Thanks,
  
  
  Chris
  
  


  On Sep 19, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Woody Anna Dresner 
  wrote:
  


  

Hi,


Unfortunately, I have no idea why this
  would happen. Have you tried calling Apple
  Accessibility?


Best,
Anna






  
On Sep 19, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Chris
  Chaffin 
  wrote:


  
  

  Hello
Anna,
  
  
  I
have been having trouble writing text
messages with the on screen braille keyboard
since iOS 8, and I have not found a solution
yet.
  Now,
I will say that I do not have trouble with
the on screen braille keyboard anywhere
else, just in the messages app.  This is
what happens.
  
  
  * I
first open messages, then open the
conversation screen for who I want to send
the message too.
  * I
go down to the bottom of the screen and
double tap on the message field to type my
message.
  * I
turn my rotor to braille input and hold my
phone in landscape mode, getting ready to
type.
  *
When I try typing on the on screen braille
keyboard, nothing happens.  As soon as I
turn my phone back to portrait mode, I hear
a beep like sound, and when I check, I find
out that a message was recorded, and the
beep was it 

Re: iOS 10, iMessages and braille screen input question

[Chris Chaffin]

Thank you very much, I have been trying to figure that out for a long time!
Since that setting has to do with messages received, I never considered it.

Thanks again,

Chris


> On Sep 20, 2016, at 2:27 AM, Gordan Radić  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Chris!
> 
> This is happening because you have turned on raise to speak feature in 
> Settings, Messages.
> 
> 
> S poštovanjem
> Gordan Radić
> 
>  
>  
> 20.9.2016. u 0:20, Chris Chaffin je napisao/la:
>> 
>> No, but I did send a email explaining everything back when I started having 
>> the problem in iOS 8.
>> I will give them a call and talk to a live person to see what they say.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, I have no idea why this would happen. Have you tried calling 
>>> Apple Accessibility?
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
 
 Hello Anna,
 
 I have been having trouble writing text messages with the on screen 
 braille keyboard since iOS 8, and I have not found a solution yet.
 Now, I will say that I do not have trouble with the on screen braille 
 keyboard anywhere else, just in the messages app.  This is what happens.
 
 * I first open messages, then open the conversation screen for who I want 
 to send the message too.
 * I go down to the bottom of the screen and double tap on the message 
 field to type my message.
 * I turn my rotor to braille input and hold my phone in landscape mode, 
 getting ready to type.
 * When I try typing on the on screen braille keyboard, nothing happens.  
 As soon as I turn my phone back to portrait mode, I hear a beep like 
 sound, and when I check, I find out that a message was recorded, and the 
 beep was it ending.
 
 It seems that somehow by putting the phone in landscape mode to type, 
 activates the recording button, and then putting it back in portrait mode 
 turns off the recording button.
 I have tried it with portrait mode locked, and unlocked.  I have no idea 
 why the recording button is being activated, and I know this is strange, 
 but I can not find a solution or work around.
 
 If you have any ideas of a possible solution, it would be greatly 
 appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Chris
 
 
 On Sep 19, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
 
> Hi Bob,
> 
> Make sure Handwriting isn't on. You should be able to have both on, but 
> if you're not using it, maybe getting it out of the way will help. Go to 
> Settings/General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor, and make sure Handwriting 
> isn't selected.
> 
> Also, make sure you're in the message body, not digital touch.
> 
> I hope that helps. I routinely use onscreen braille input to write text 
> messages, so it can definitely be done.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Robert Hill  
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all, 
>> 
>> I have an issue when trying to compose an iMessage when attempting to 
>> use braille screen input. 
>> After I select the recipient of my iMessage, I go to the body and use 
>> the rotor to move to braille screen input. 
>> My phone says braille screen input, and I need to change to landscape to 
>> use BSI. 
>> But then I hear about a handwriting area, and I can't use BSI, the area 
>> is all about handwriting. 
>> If I flip my phone back to portrait mode, I can use the onscreen 
>> keyboard just fine. 
>> 
>> Any suggestions for a work around? 
>> 
>> Bob Hill
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2
>> 
>> Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2 
>> 
>> 
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Re: iOS 10, iMessages and braille screen input question

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi, Chris!
This is happening because you have turned on raise to speak
  feature in Settings, Messages.



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20.9.2016. u 0:20, Chris Chaffin je
  napisao/la:


  
  


No, but I did send a email
  explaining everything back when I started having the problem
  in iOS 8.
I will give them a call and
  talk to a live person to see what they say.


Thanks,


Chris


  
  
On Sep 19, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Woody Anna Dresner 
wrote:

  
  

  
  Hi,
  
  
  Unfortunately, I have no idea why this would
happen. Have you tried calling Apple Accessibility?
  
  
  Best,
  Anna
  
  
  
  
  
  

  On Sep 19, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Chris Chaffin

wrote:
  
  


  
Hello
  Anna,


I have
  been having trouble writing text messages with the
  on screen braille keyboard since iOS 8, and I have
  not found a solution yet.
Now, I
  will say that I do not have trouble with the on
  screen braille keyboard anywhere else, just in the
  messages app.  This is what happens.


* I first
  open messages, then open the conversation screen
  for who I want to send the message too.
* I go
  down to the bottom of the screen and double tap on
  the message field to type my message.
* I turn
  my rotor to braille input and hold my phone in
  landscape mode, getting ready to type.
* When I
  try typing on the on screen braille keyboard,
  nothing happens.  As soon as I turn my phone back
  to portrait mode, I hear a beep like sound, and
  when I check, I find out that a message was
  recorded, and the beep was it ending.


It seems
  that somehow by putting the phone in landscape
  mode to type, activates the recording button, and
  then putting it back in portrait mode turns off
  the recording button.
I have
  tried it with portrait mode locked, and unlocked.
   I have no idea why the recording button is being
  activated, and I know this is strange, but I can
  not find a solution or work around.


If you
  have any ideas of a possible solution, it would be
  greatly appreciated.


Thanks,


Chris


  
  
On Sep 19, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Woody Anna Dresner 
wrote:

  
  
Hi Bob,
  
  Make sure Handwriting isn't on. You
should be able to have both on, but if you're
not using it, maybe getting it out of the way
will help. Go to
Settings/General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor,
and make sure Handwriting isn't selected.
  
  Also, make sure you're in the
message body, not digital touch.
  
  I hope that helps. I routinely use
onscreen braille input to write text messages,
so it can definitely be done.
  
  Best,
  

Re: iOS 10, iMessages and braille screen input question

[rajmund]

Hi, close messages, and reopen.  Works here, for when this 
happens.


Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: Chris Chaffin I have been having trouble writing text messages with the on 
screen braille keyboard since iOS 8, and I have not found a 
solution yet.
Now, I will say that I do not have trouble with the on screen 
braille keyboard anywhere else, just in the messages app.  This 
is what happens.


* I first open messages, then open the conversation screen for 
who I want to send the message too.
* I go down to the bottom of the screen and double tap on the 
message field to type my message.
* I turn my rotor to braille input and hold my phone in landscape 
mode, getting ready to type.
* When I try typing on the on screen braille keyboard, nothing 
happens.  As soon as I turn my phone back to portrait mode, I 
hear a beep like sound, and when I check, I find out that a 
message was recorded, and the beep was it ending.


It seems that somehow by putting the phone in landscape mode to 
type, activates the recording button, and then putting it back in 
portrait mode turns off the recording button.
I have tried it with portrait mode locked, and unlocked.  I have 
no idea why the recording button is being activated, and I know 
this is strange, but I can not find a solution or work around.


If you have any ideas of a possible solution, it would be greatly 
appreciated.


Thanks,

Chris


On Sep 19, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Woody Anna Dresner 
 wrote:


Hi Bob,

Make sure Handwriting isn't on.  You should be able to have both 
on, but if you're not using it, maybe getting it out of the way 
will help.  Go to Settings/General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor, 
and make sure Handwriting isn't selected.


Also, make sure you're in the message body, not digital touch.

I hope that helps.  I routinely use onscreen braille input to 
write text messages, so it can definitely be done.


Best,
Anna


On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Robert Hill 
 wrote:


Hello all,

I have an issue when trying to compose an iMessage when 
attempting to use braille screen input.
After I select the recipient of my iMessage, I go to the body 
and use the rotor to move to braille screen input.
My phone says braille screen input, and I need to change to 
landscape to use BSI.
But then I hear about a handwriting area, and I can't use BSI, 
the area is all about handwriting.
If I flip my phone back to portrait mode, I can use the onscreen 
keyboard just fine.


Any suggestions for a work around?

Bob Hill


Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2

Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2


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Re: iOS 10, iMessages and braille screen input question

[Chris Chaffin]

Is your phone in portrait lock?

I would guess no.  I noticed on my phone, that when switching to landscape 
mode, it would call the edit field the handwriting area.  This can be a little 
confusing.  I would guess this is what you are hearing.

Hope this helps,

Chris


> On Sep 19, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Robert Hill  wrote:
> 
> Hi Woody,
> 
> I have gone to the rotor, made sure handwriting is not selected.
> 
> After I select the recipient, I flick to the right with one finger, go past 
> the digital touch button and find the message area.
> I double tap witha single finger to make sure I have an edit field, then 
> select braille screen input.
> I turn my phone to landscape mode, and then hear "handwriting area"  (even 
> though handwriting is not selected).
> 
> Sratching head.
> Maybe I'll do a reset of the settings and start from scratch.
> (I forgot to say I'm running an iPhone 6).
> 
> Bob Hill
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Woody Anna Dresner  
> To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
> CC: 
> Date: Monday, September 19, 2016 1:36 pm
> Subject: Re: iOS 10, iMessages and braille screen input question
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Bob,
>> 
>> Make sure Handwriting isn't on. You should be able to have both on, but if 
>> you're not using it, maybe getting it out of the way will help. Go to 
>> Settings/General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor, and make sure Handwriting 
>> isn't selected.
>> 
>> Also, make sure you're in the message body, not digital touch.
>> 
>> I hope that helps. I routinely use onscreen braille input to write text 
>> messages, so it can definitely be done.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Robert Hill  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all, 
>> 
>> I have an issue when trying to compose an iMessage when attempting to use 
>> braille screen input. 
>> After I select the recipient of my iMessage, I go to the body and use the 
>> rotor to move to braille screen input. 
>> My phone says braille screen input, and I need to change to landscape to use 
>> BSI. 
>> But then I hear about a handwriting area, and I can't use BSI, the area is 
>> all about handwriting. 
>> If I flip my phone back to portrait mode, I can use the onscreen keyboard 
>> just fine. 
>> 
>> Any suggestions for a work around? 
>> 
>> Bob Hill
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2
>> 
>> Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2 
>> 
>> 
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Re: iOS 10, iMessages and braille screen input question

[Chris Chaffin]

No, but I did send a email explaining everything back when I started having the 
problem in iOS 8.
I will give them a call and talk to a live person to see what they say.

Thanks,

Chris


> On Sep 19, 2016, at 6:13 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Unfortunately, I have no idea why this would happen. Have you tried calling 
> Apple Accessibility?
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Anna,
>> 
>> I have been having trouble writing text messages with the on screen braille 
>> keyboard since iOS 8, and I have not found a solution yet.
>> Now, I will say that I do not have trouble with the on screen braille 
>> keyboard anywhere else, just in the messages app.  This is what happens.
>> 
>> * I first open messages, then open the conversation screen for who I want to 
>> send the message too.
>> * I go down to the bottom of the screen and double tap on the message field 
>> to type my message.
>> * I turn my rotor to braille input and hold my phone in landscape mode, 
>> getting ready to type.
>> * When I try typing on the on screen braille keyboard, nothing happens.  As 
>> soon as I turn my phone back to portrait mode, I hear a beep like sound, and 
>> when I check, I find out that a message was recorded, and the beep was it 
>> ending.
>> 
>> It seems that somehow by putting the phone in landscape mode to type, 
>> activates the recording button, and then putting it back in portrait mode 
>> turns off the recording button.
>> I have tried it with portrait mode locked, and unlocked.  I have no idea why 
>> the recording button is being activated, and I know this is strange, but I 
>> can not find a solution or work around.
>> 
>> If you have any ideas of a possible solution, it would be greatly 
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Bob,
>>> 
>>> Make sure Handwriting isn't on. You should be able to have both on, but if 
>>> you're not using it, maybe getting it out of the way will help. Go to 
>>> Settings/General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor, and make sure Handwriting 
>>> isn't selected.
>>> 
>>> Also, make sure you're in the message body, not digital touch.
>>> 
>>> I hope that helps. I routinely use onscreen braille input to write text 
>>> messages, so it can definitely be done.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Robert Hill  wrote:
 
 Hello all, 
 
 I have an issue when trying to compose an iMessage when attempting to use 
 braille screen input. 
 After I select the recipient of my iMessage, I go to the body and use the 
 rotor to move to braille screen input. 
 My phone says braille screen input, and I need to change to landscape to 
 use BSI. 
 But then I hear about a handwriting area, and I can't use BSI, the area is 
 all about handwriting. 
 If I flip my phone back to portrait mode, I can use the onscreen keyboard 
 just fine. 
 
 Any suggestions for a work around? 
 
 Bob Hill
 
 
 Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2
 
 Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2 
 
 
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Re: iOS 10, iMessages and braille screen input question

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Unfortunately, I have no idea why this would happen. Have you tried calling 
Apple Accessibility?

Best,
Anna



> On Sep 19, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> Hello Anna,
> 
> I have been having trouble writing text messages with the on screen braille 
> keyboard since iOS 8, and I have not found a solution yet.
> Now, I will say that I do not have trouble with the on screen braille 
> keyboard anywhere else, just in the messages app.  This is what happens.
> 
> * I first open messages, then open the conversation screen for who I want to 
> send the message too.
> * I go down to the bottom of the screen and double tap on the message field 
> to type my message.
> * I turn my rotor to braille input and hold my phone in landscape mode, 
> getting ready to type.
> * When I try typing on the on screen braille keyboard, nothing happens.  As 
> soon as I turn my phone back to portrait mode, I hear a beep like sound, and 
> when I check, I find out that a message was recorded, and the beep was it 
> ending.
> 
> It seems that somehow by putting the phone in landscape mode to type, 
> activates the recording button, and then putting it back in portrait mode 
> turns off the recording button.
> I have tried it with portrait mode locked, and unlocked.  I have no idea why 
> the recording button is being activated, and I know this is strange, but I 
> can not find a solution or work around.
> 
> If you have any ideas of a possible solution, it would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> On Sep 19, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Bob,
>> 
>> Make sure Handwriting isn't on. You should be able to have both on, but if 
>> you're not using it, maybe getting it out of the way will help. Go to 
>> Settings/General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor, and make sure Handwriting 
>> isn't selected.
>> 
>> Also, make sure you're in the message body, not digital touch.
>> 
>> I hope that helps. I routinely use onscreen braille input to write text 
>> messages, so it can definitely be done.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Robert Hill >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all, 
>>> 
>>> I have an issue when trying to compose an iMessage when attempting to use 
>>> braille screen input. 
>>> After I select the recipient of my iMessage, I go to the body and use the 
>>> rotor to move to braille screen input. 
>>> My phone says braille screen input, and I need to change to landscape to 
>>> use BSI. 
>>> But then I hear about a handwriting area, and I can't use BSI, the area is 
>>> all about handwriting. 
>>> If I flip my phone back to portrait mode, I can use the onscreen keyboard 
>>> just fine. 
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions for a work around? 
>>> 
>>> Bob Hill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2
>>> 
>>> Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2 
>>> 
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Re: iOS 10, iMessages and braille screen input question

[Chris Chaffin]

Hello Anna,

I have been having trouble writing text messages with the on screen braille 
keyboard since iOS 8, and I have not found a solution yet.
Now, I will say that I do not have trouble with the on screen braille keyboard 
anywhere else, just in the messages app.  This is what happens.

* I first open messages, then open the conversation screen for who I want to 
send the message too.
* I go down to the bottom of the screen and double tap on the message field to 
type my message.
* I turn my rotor to braille input and hold my phone in landscape mode, getting 
ready to type.
* When I try typing on the on screen braille keyboard, nothing happens.  As 
soon as I turn my phone back to portrait mode, I hear a beep like sound, and 
when I check, I find out that a message was recorded, and the beep was it 
ending.

It seems that somehow by putting the phone in landscape mode to type, activates 
the recording button, and then putting it back in portrait mode turns off the 
recording button.
I have tried it with portrait mode locked, and unlocked.  I have no idea why 
the recording button is being activated, and I know this is strange, but I can 
not find a solution or work around.

If you have any ideas of a possible solution, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Chris


> On Sep 19, 2016, at 1:36 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
> Make sure Handwriting isn't on. You should be able to have both on, but if 
> you're not using it, maybe getting it out of the way will help. Go to 
> Settings/General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor, and make sure Handwriting 
> isn't selected.
> 
> Also, make sure you're in the message body, not digital touch.
> 
> I hope that helps. I routinely use onscreen braille input to write text 
> messages, so it can definitely be done.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Robert Hill  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all, 
>> 
>> I have an issue when trying to compose an iMessage when attempting to use 
>> braille screen input. 
>> After I select the recipient of my iMessage, I go to the body and use the 
>> rotor to move to braille screen input. 
>> My phone says braille screen input, and I need to change to landscape to use 
>> BSI. 
>> But then I hear about a handwriting area, and I can't use BSI, the area is 
>> all about handwriting. 
>> If I flip my phone back to portrait mode, I can use the onscreen keyboard 
>> just fine. 
>> 
>> Any suggestions for a work around? 
>> 
>> Bob Hill
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2
>> 
>> Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2 
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Re: iOS 10, iMessages and braille screen input question

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

I tried this on my iphone 6, writing a message to my wife, who also has an 
iphone, but I was not seeing this problem.  I could do the braille writing 
with no problem whatsoever.


Jan Kleinhans
- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Hill" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 10, iMessages and braille screen input question



Hi Woody,

I have gone to the rotor, made sure handwriting is not selected.

After I select the recipient, I flick to the right with one finger, go 
past the digital touch button and find the message area.
I double tap witha single finger to make sure I have an edit field, then 
select braille screen input.
I turn my phone to landscape mode, and then hear "handwriting area"  (even 
though handwriting is not selected).


Sratching head.
Maybe I'll do a reset of the settings and start from scratch.
(I forgot to say I'm running an iPhone 6).

Bob Hill




Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2

- Original Message -
From: Woody Anna Dresner  
To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
CC:
Date: Monday, September 19, 2016 1:36 pm
Subject: Re: iOS 10, iMessages and braille screen input question




Hi Bob,

Make sure Handwriting isn't on. You should be able to have both on, but 
if you're not using it, maybe getting it out of the way will help. Go to 
Settings/General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor, and make sure Handwriting 
isn't selected.


Also, make sure you're in the message body, not digital touch.

I hope that helps. I routinely use onscreen braille input to write text 
messages, so it can definitely be done.


Best,
Anna


On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Robert Hill  
wrote:


Hello all,

I have an issue when trying to compose an iMessage when attempting to use 
braille screen input.
After I select the recipient of my iMessage, I go to the body and use the 
rotor to move to braille screen input.
My phone says braille screen input, and I need to change to landscape to 
use BSI.
But then I hear about a handwriting area, and I can't use BSI, the area 
is all about handwriting.
If I flip my phone back to portrait mode, I can use the onscreen keyboard 
just fine.


Any suggestions for a work around?

Bob Hill


Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2

Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2


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Re: iOS 10, iMessages and braille screen input question

[Robert Hill]

Hi Woody,

I have gone to the rotor, made sure handwriting is not selected.

After I select the recipient, I flick to the right with one finger, go past the 
digital touch button and find the message area.
I double tap witha single finger to make sure I have an edit field, then select 
braille screen input.
I turn my phone to landscape mode, and then hear "handwriting area"  (even 
though handwriting is not selected).

Sratching head.
Maybe I'll do a reset of the settings and start from scratch.
(I forgot to say I'm running an iPhone 6).

Bob Hill




Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2 

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From: Woody Anna Dresner  
To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
CC: 
Date: Monday, September 19, 2016 1:36 pm
Subject: Re: iOS 10, iMessages and braille screen input question

>
>
> Hi Bob,
> 
> Make sure Handwriting isn't on. You should be able to have both on, but if 
> you're not using it, maybe getting it out of the way will help. Go to 
> Settings/General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor, and make sure Handwriting 
> isn't selected.
> 
> Also, make sure you're in the message body, not digital touch.
> 
> I hope that helps. I routinely use onscreen braille input to write text 
> messages, so it can definitely be done.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Robert Hill  wrote:
> 
> Hello all, 
> 
> I have an issue when trying to compose an iMessage when attempting to use 
> braille screen input. 
> After I select the recipient of my iMessage, I go to the body and use the 
> rotor to move to braille screen input. 
> My phone says braille screen input, and I need to change to landscape to use 
> BSI. 
> But then I hear about a handwriting area, and I can't use BSI, the area is 
> all about handwriting. 
> If I flip my phone back to portrait mode, I can use the onscreen keyboard 
> just fine. 
> 
> Any suggestions for a work around? 
> 
> Bob Hill
> 
> 
> Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2
> 
> Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2 
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Re: iOS 10, iMessages and braille screen input question

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Bob,

Make sure Handwriting isn't on. You should be able to have both on, but if 
you're not using it, maybe getting it out of the way will help. Go to 
Settings/General/Accessibility/VoiceOver/Rotor, and make sure Handwriting isn't 
selected.

Also, make sure you're in the message body, not digital touch.

I hope that helps. I routinely use onscreen braille input to write text 
messages, so it can definitely be done.

Best,
Anna


> On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Robert Hill  wrote:
> 
> Hello all, 
> 
> I have an issue when trying to compose an iMessage when attempting to use 
> braille screen input. 
> After I select the recipient of my iMessage, I go to the body and use the 
> rotor to move to braille screen input. 
> My phone says braille screen input, and I need to change to landscape to use 
> BSI. 
> But then I hear about a handwriting area, and I can't use BSI, the area is 
> all about handwriting. 
> If I flip my phone back to portrait mode, I can use the onscreen keyboard 
> just fine. 
> 
> Any suggestions for a work around? 
> 
> Bob Hill
> 
> 
> Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2
> 
> Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2 
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iOS 10, iMessages and braille screen input question

[Robert Hill]

Hello all, 

I have an issue when trying to compose an iMessage when attempting to use 
braille screen input. 
After I select the recipient of my iMessage, I go to the body and use the rotor 
to move to braille screen input. 
My phone says braille screen input, and I need to change to landscape to use 
BSI. 
But then I hear about a handwriting area, and I can't use BSI, the area is all 
about handwriting. 
If I flip my phone back to portrait mode, I can use the onscreen keyboard just 
fine. 

Any suggestions for a work around? 

Bob Hill


Sent from Bob's Braille Sentce U2

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Re: braille screen input question

[Jennie Facer]

It is a two finger swipe to the right I think. 

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On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 3:45 PM -0700, "Jenifer Barr"  
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Hi.
On the same topic, how do you insert a new line? I can't for the life of me 
figure it out. LOL. Thanks much.

Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 8, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Christopher Hallsworth  wrote:
> 
> If you use contracted Braille Screen Input then VO will not speak any 
> characters. As I understand it the word is held in some kind of buffer set by 
> the translator. The buffer is then released when you do a space or newline. 
> If you set it to Six Dot with a three finger swipe to the left or right then 
> VO will speak by character providing it is set that way in settings, general, 
> accessibility, VoiceOver and typing feedback.
> 
>> On 08/04/2015 19:38, don bishop wrote:
>> I'm enjoying braille screen input, but trying to figure what setting I need 
>> to change so vo speaks characters. I sometimes hit the keyboard inthe wrong 
>> spot and don't get the characters I intended. A good example is the "to" 
>> field of a message. I can get ^ows okay, but can't seem to get vo to speak 
>> characters. Yet, if I enter the name of an app from the homescreen, each 
>> character is spoken as I enter them.  Just seems a bit odd.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Don
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Re: braille screen input question

[Jenifer Barr]

Hi.
On the same topic, how do you insert a new line? I can't for the life of me 
figure it out. LOL. Thanks much.

Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 8, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Christopher Hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> If you use contracted Braille Screen Input then VO will not speak any 
> characters. As I understand it the word is held in some kind of buffer set by 
> the translator. The buffer is then released when you do a space or newline. 
> If you set it to Six Dot with a three finger swipe to the left or right then 
> VO will speak by character providing it is set that way in settings, general, 
> accessibility, VoiceOver and typing feedback.
> 
>> On 08/04/2015 19:38, don bishop wrote:
>> I'm enjoying braille screen input, but trying to figure what setting I need 
>> to change so vo speaks characters. I sometimes hit the keyboard inthe wrong 
>> spot and don't get the characters I intended. A good example is the "to" 
>> field of a message. I can get ^ows okay, but can't seem to get vo to speak 
>> characters. Yet, if I enter the name of an app from the homescreen, each 
>> character is spoken as I enter them.  Just seems a bit odd.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Don
>> 
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Re: braille screen input question

[Christopher Hallsworth]

If you use contracted Braille Screen Input then VO will not speak any 
characters. As I understand it the word is held in some kind of buffer 
set by the translator. The buffer is then released when you do a space 
or newline. If you set it to Six Dot with a three finger swipe to the 
left or right then VO will speak by character providing it is set that 
way in settings, general, accessibility, VoiceOver and typing feedback.


On 08/04/2015 19:38, don bishop wrote:

I'm enjoying braille screen input, but trying to figure what setting I need to change so 
vo speaks characters. I sometimes hit the keyboard inthe wrong spot and don't get the 
characters I intended. A good example is the "to" field of a message. I can get 
^ows okay, but can't seem to get vo to speak characters. Yet, if I enter the name of an 
app from the homescreen, each character is spoken as I enter them.  Just seems a bit odd.

Thanks,
Don



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braille screen input question

[don bishop]

I'm enjoying braille screen input, but trying to figure what setting I need to 
change so vo speaks characters. I sometimes hit the keyboard inthe wrong spot 
and don't get the characters I intended. A good example is the "to" field of a 
message. I can get ^ows okay, but can't seem to get vo to speak characters. 
Yet, if I enter the name of an app from the homescreen, each character is 
spoken as I enter them.  Just seems a bit odd. 

Thanks, 
Don  

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Re: Braille screen input question

[Christopher Chaltain]

You've probably already tried this but have you tried clearing apps out 
of the App Switcher? What about shutting down and restarting your iPhone?


On 12/01/2014 11:14 AM, Isaac Hebert wrote:

Have you tryed removing the braille screen input from the rotor and adding it 
back?
To do this go to settings general accessibility voiceover rotor and then choose 
braille screen input.
Same steps apply when re adding the option back.

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 1, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Tim Emmons  wrote:

Yeah, just started Saturday. Not had an issue with it until then.

On Dec 1, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Isaac Hebert  wrote:

Did this just start happening Saturday?
If it did I could be wrong but it is probably a bug.

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 1, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Tim Emmons  wrote:

Guys, I have a curious question and not sure how to fix it , if it's a bug or 
what. I'm running an iPhone 5S, with IOS 8.1.1 and Saturday I had my phone, was 
about to respond to a message, the phone went wonky for a minute, like it got 
confused ( I was in the middle of nowhere with hardly no signal but I didn't 
think it would do this) but I went to text someone back, using braille screen 
input, and every time I go to Braille screen input using the rotar, Voiceover 
crashes, comes back, and I'm at the top of my messages out of the edit box, and 
every time now I try to use braille screen input voiceover totally crashes and 
reboots. I've tried rebooting the phone, I've tried reseting all settings, no 
change. I haven't resorted to restoring it from a backup but that's my next 
step if I can't find an answer. Does anyone have a clue as to what's up/ Thanks 
for any help you guys can throw my way. Take care and talk to you soon.

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Re: Braille screen input question

[Isaac Hebert]

Have you tryed removing the braille screen input from the rotor and adding it 
back? 
To do this go to settings general accessibility voiceover rotor and then choose 
braille screen input. 
Same steps apply when re adding the option back.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 1, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Tim Emmons  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, just started Saturday. Not had an issue with it until then. 
>> On Dec 1, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
>> 
>> Did this just start happening Saturday? 
>> If it did I could be wrong but it is probably a bug.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 1, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Tim Emmons  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Guys, I have a curious question and not sure how to fix it , if it's a bug 
>>> or what. I'm running an iPhone 5S, with IOS 8.1.1 and Saturday I had my 
>>> phone, was about to respond to a message, the phone went wonky for a 
>>> minute, like it got confused ( I was in the middle of nowhere with hardly 
>>> no signal but I didn't think it would do this) but I went to text someone 
>>> back, using braille screen input, and every time I go to Braille screen 
>>> input using the rotar, Voiceover crashes, comes back, and I'm at the top of 
>>> my messages out of the edit box, and every time now I try to use braille 
>>> screen input voiceover totally crashes and reboots. I've tried rebooting 
>>> the phone, I've tried reseting all settings, no change. I haven't resorted 
>>> to restoring it from a backup but that's my next step if I can't find an 
>>> answer. Does anyone have a clue as to what's up/ Thanks for any help you 
>>> guys can throw my way. Take care and talk to you soon. 
>>> 
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Re: Braille screen input question

[Tim Emmons]

Yeah, just started Saturday. Not had an issue with it until then. 
On Dec 1, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Isaac Hebert  wrote:

> Did this just start happening Saturday? 
> If it did I could be wrong but it is probably a bug.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Tim Emmons  wrote:
>> 
>> Guys, I have a curious question and not sure how to fix it , if it's a bug 
>> or what. I'm running an iPhone 5S, with IOS 8.1.1 and Saturday I had my 
>> phone, was about to respond to a message, the phone went wonky for a minute, 
>> like it got confused ( I was in the middle of nowhere with hardly no signal 
>> but I didn't think it would do this) but I went to text someone back, using 
>> braille screen input, and every time I go to Braille screen input using the 
>> rotar, Voiceover crashes, comes back, and I'm at the top of my messages out 
>> of the edit box, and every time now I try to use braille screen input 
>> voiceover totally crashes and reboots. I've tried rebooting the phone, I've 
>> tried reseting all settings, no change. I haven't resorted to restoring it 
>> from a backup but that's my next step if I can't find an answer. Does anyone 
>> have a clue as to what's up/ Thanks for any help you guys can throw my way. 
>> Take care and talk to you soon. 
>> 
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Re: Braille screen input question

[Isaac Hebert]

Did this just start happening Saturday? 
If it did I could be wrong but it is probably a bug.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 1, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Tim Emmons  wrote:
> 
> Guys, I have a curious question and not sure how to fix it , if it's a bug or 
> what. I'm running an iPhone 5S, with IOS 8.1.1 and Saturday I had my phone, 
> was about to respond to a message, the phone went wonky for a minute, like it 
> got confused ( I was in the middle of nowhere with hardly no signal but I 
> didn't think it would do this) but I went to text someone back, using braille 
> screen input, and every time I go to Braille screen input using the rotar, 
> Voiceover crashes, comes back, and I'm at the top of my messages out of the 
> edit box, and every time now I try to use braille screen input voiceover 
> totally crashes and reboots. I've tried rebooting the phone, I've tried 
> reseting all settings, no change. I haven't resorted to restoring it from a 
> backup but that's my next step if I can't find an answer. Does anyone have a 
> clue as to what's up/ Thanks for any help you guys can throw my way. Take 
> care and talk to you soon. 
> 
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Braille screen input question

[Tim Emmons]

Guys, I have a curious question and not sure how to fix it , if it's a bug or 
what. I'm running an iPhone 5S, with IOS 8.1.1 and Saturday I had my phone, was 
about to respond to a message, the phone went wonky for a minute, like it got 
confused ( I was in the middle of nowhere with hardly no signal but I didn't 
think it would do this) but I went to text someone back, using braille screen 
input, and every time I go to Braille screen input using the rotar, Voiceover 
crashes, comes back, and I'm at the top of my messages out of the edit box, and 
every time now I try to use braille screen input voiceover totally crashes and 
reboots. I've tried rebooting the phone, I've tried reseting all settings, no 
change. I haven't resorted to restoring it from a backup but that's my next 
step if I can't find an answer. Does anyone have a clue as to what's up/ Thanks 
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