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Personally when searching for apps, I prefer using iTunes rather than the phone, that said I generally perform all updates from the phone and if I am away from the home computer I will use the phone in the App store. It probably has more to do with using a real keyboard for me. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BBS Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:35 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i o s and visually impaired users Hi Ed and others. I actually answered my own dumb A** question last night. I went into the App Store, changed the roter to headings, and sure enough, I was able to navigate the search results properly. Before I did this, I used to press and or hold down either side of the screen to navigate it, but 99% of the time Voiceover didn't read the next or previous search result. So thanks. It would be nice if we could tell our iPhones to keep it on headings when we're in the App Store. Or like on the Mac, set an activity so that the roter is automatically on headings. Thanks again. -- Sent from my white MacBook using SamNet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: i o s and visually impaired users
Hi Ed. When you say navigate the search results in the App Store by headings, do you mean rotate your fingers until the roter says headings? If so, after you've set the roter to headings, how do you navigate the headings? Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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The single-finger vertical flick navigates to the next item set via the rotor. So, if rotor is characters, vertical flick navigates one character at a time. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 27/09/2012, at 19:16, Shawn Krasniuk bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ed. When you say navigate the search results in the App Store by headings, do you mean rotate your fingers until the roter says headings? If so, after you've set the roter to headings, how do you navigate the headings? Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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The media hates success in general. You cannot tear someone or something down unless you can find even the smallest possible thing to use as the lever to promote negativity. Media loves to show stories of how big companies such as APple is really trying to screw the llittle person. No wonder people are always looking for the negative. Of course just my opinion. On Sep 27, 2012, at 1:16 AM, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote: Using it is no problem and I think over all it is an upgrade. I can't help but wonder if the reason it was covered was because it was another opportunity to put a negative spin on the IPhone and things related by the media. The media and the press, in my view, they seem to absolutely hate the IPhone. They hate its success and they are doing everything they can to turn the tide against it. Sure you can find a few positive articles, but they are from a specific collection of people and sources. So they found what they could present as another trashing opportunity. Jim On 9/26/12, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I have no problems as well navigating the App Store I find it easy using it. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 27/09/2012, at 9:58 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: I concur Ed and I have had absolutely no problems navigating the App store, whether I am searching, purchasing, or updating apps. I really like the new store;, although I understand some do not necessarily like change. :) On Sep 26, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Ed Worrell blindworr...@optimum.net wrote: Hello, first off… I don't find the app store any harder to use with voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with the way the app store is handled on Apple's end they can make improvements on the fly without a huge app update, they can just do it over the server. There aren't any big issues with the app store and I am not sure why the blind community is all in a huff over it. JMO Ed On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote: It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was posted by apple insider. It talks about app store and voice over. Read the article and read some of the coments. Great to see this. Hit enter on the link below. Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to
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Hey Jim, The IPhone has been digging into the Blackberry market like you wouldn't believe. Up until now, Blackberry has been holding the business market and the IPhone was seen as being for the rest of us. Of course, as a Canadian I am a little sad that Blackberry, one of our biggest companies, is losing a big part of the market. Don't be surprised that the media and other big companies, huge Blackberry users, will bash anything that disturbs their comfort zone just like we, as blind users, have been complaining about the changes in IOS 6. It is change and, no matter how good it is, it disturbs people and spills a lot of ink. Let's be positive and wait a bit and watch Apple float up to the top just as they have in the past. They have the technology, the money and the desire to do that. After all, it only makes good business sense. I think that this list is the best representative of our users and we need to be positive, continue to report bugs to a company that, up until now, has been listening to us. Finally, we have some power and we need to use it wisely. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i o s and visually impaired users Using it is no problem and I think over all it is an upgrade. I can't help but wonder if the reason it was covered was because it was another opportunity to put a negative spin on the IPhone and things related by the media. The media and the press, in my view, they seem to absolutely hate the IPhone. They hate its success and they are doing everything they can to turn the tide against it. Sure you can find a few positive articles, but they are from a specific collection of people and sources. So they found what they could present as another trashing opportunity. Jim On 9/26/12, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I have no problems as well navigating the App Store I find it easy using it. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 27/09/2012, at 9:58 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: I concur Ed and I have had absolutely no problems navigating the App store, whether I am searching, purchasing, or updating apps. I really like the new store;, although I understand some do not necessarily like change. :) On Sep 26, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Ed Worrell blindworr...@optimum.net wrote: Hello, first off. I don't find the app store any harder to use with voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with the way the app store is handled on Apple's end they can make improvements on the fly without a huge app update, they can just do it over the server. There aren't any big issues with the app store and I am not sure why the blind community is all in a huff over it. JMO Ed On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote: It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was posted by apple insider. It talks about app store and voice over. Read the article and read some of the coments. Great to see this. Hit enter on the link below. Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-s ay-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone
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personally, the only problem I have had with the new look app store, is when it has a load of search results to display. where as in the old app store, it used to have a show how ever many more feature if there were a lot of results to display, now the new one tries to display all of the results at once, which has caused an about 10 second delay, and has sometimes caused the app store app to close. apart from this, I have also had no problems with the new app store. Simon - Original Message - From: Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:36 AM Subject: Re: i o s and visually impaired users I have no problems as well navigating the App Store I find it easy using it. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 27/09/2012, at 9:58 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: I concur Ed and I have had absolutely no problems navigating the App store, whether I am searching, purchasing, or updating apps. I really like the new store;, although I understand some do not necessarily like change. :) On Sep 26, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Ed Worrell blindworr...@optimum.net wrote: Hello, first off… I don't find the app store any harder to use with voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with the way the app store is handled on Apple's end they can make improvements on the fly without a huge app update, they can just do it over the server. There aren't any big issues with the app store and I am not sure why the blind community is all in a huff over it. JMO Ed On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote: It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was posted by apple insider. It talks about app store and voice over. Read the article and read some of the coments. Great to see this. Hit enter on the link below. Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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Hello Shaun, yes rotate your fingers until you hear headings, then you flick one finger up to go up the headings to the top of the page, and flick one finger down to go down the page towards the bottom of the page. Any of the options in the roter are performed with either a flick up or down, I personally find the roter awesome and very useful. I probably use the roter more then any other feature on the iDevices. hth Ed On Sep 27, 2012, at 1:16 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ed. When you say navigate the search results in the App Store by headings, do you mean rotate your fingers until the roter says headings? If so, after you've set the roter to headings, how do you navigate the headings? Shawn Sent from my white Mac Book -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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I didn't like the change in the behavior of the App store, but I am not complaining. - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 3:33 PM Subject: Re: i o s and visually impaired users Why do you say the blindness community is all in a huff over the App Store? I read the article, and they only refer to one blind person complaining about the AppStore. I haven't seen any other complaints surrounding the AppStore other than those that existed prior to the release of IOS 6. I don't think one person equates to the entire blindness community. I do agree though that sometimes these companies are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they don't make enough changes then they're labeled as stagnant or not being innovative enough. If they make too many changes then people complain about having to learn a whole new interface. On 26/09/12 13:53, Ed Worrell wrote: Hello, first off… I don't find the app store any harder to use with voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with the way the app store is handled on Apple's end they can make improvements on the fly without a huge app update, they can just do it over the server. There aren't any big issues with the app store and I am not sure why the blind community is all in a huff over it. JMO Ed On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote: It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was posted by apple insider. It talks about app store and voice over. Read the article and read some of the coments. Great to see this. Hit enter on the link below. Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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Hi Ed and others. I actually answered my own dumb A** question last night. I went into the App Store, changed the roter to headings, and sure enough, I was able to navigate the search results properly. Before I did this, I used to press and or hold down either side of the screen to navigate it, but 99% of the time Voiceover didn't read the next or previous search result. So thanks. It would be nice if we could tell our iPhones to keep it on headings when we're in the App Store. Or like on the Mac, set an activity so that the roter is automatically on headings. Thanks again. -- Sent from my white MacBook using SamNet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
i o s and visually impaired users
It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was posted by apple insider. It talks about app store and voice over. Read the article and read some of the coments. Great to see this. Hit enter on the link below. Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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Hello, first off… I don't find the app store any harder to use with voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with the way the app store is handled on Apple's end they can make improvements on the fly without a huge app update, they can just do it over the server. There aren't any big issues with the app store and I am not sure why the blind community is all in a huff over it. JMO Ed On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote: It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was posted by apple insider. It talks about app store and voice over. Read the article and read some of the coments. Great to see this. Hit enter on the link below. Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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I agree. People are uncomfortable with change until they adapt. But, if you then take those nice changes away, they really squawk. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 27/09/2012, at 6:53, Ed Worrell blindworr...@optimum.net wrote: Hello, first off… I don't find the app store any harder to use with voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with the way the app store is handled on Apple's end they can make improvements on the fly without a huge app update, they can just do it over the server. There aren't any big issues with the app store and I am not sure why the blind community is all in a huff over it. JMO Ed On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote: It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was posted by apple insider. It talks about app store and voice over. Read the article and read some of the coments. Great to see this. Hit enter on the link below. Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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Why do you say the blindness community is all in a huff over the App Store? I read the article, and they only refer to one blind person complaining about the AppStore. I haven't seen any other complaints surrounding the AppStore other than those that existed prior to the release of IOS 6. I don't think one person equates to the entire blindness community. I do agree though that sometimes these companies are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they don't make enough changes then they're labeled as stagnant or not being innovative enough. If they make too many changes then people complain about having to learn a whole new interface. On 26/09/12 13:53, Ed Worrell wrote: Hello, first off… I don't find the app store any harder to use with voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with the way the app store is handled on Apple's end they can make improvements on the fly without a huge app update, they can just do it over the server. There aren't any big issues with the app store and I am not sure why the blind community is all in a huff over it. JMO Ed On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote: It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was posted by apple insider. It talks about app store and voice over. Read the article and read some of the coments. Great to see this. Hit enter on the link below. Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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This is an article from apple insider it is not my view. Also, i think it is cool the fact that a mainstream source is covering accessibility On 9/26/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Why do you say the blindness community is all in a huff over the App Store? I read the article, and they only refer to one blind person complaining about the AppStore. I haven't seen any other complaints surrounding the AppStore other than those that existed prior to the release of IOS 6. I don't think one person equates to the entire blindness community. I do agree though that sometimes these companies are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they don't make enough changes then they're labeled as stagnant or not being innovative enough. If they make too many changes then people complain about having to learn a whole new interface. On 26/09/12 13:53, Ed Worrell wrote: Hello, first off… I don't find the app store any harder to use with voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with the way the app store is handled on Apple's end they can make improvements on the fly without a huge app update, they can just do it over the server. There aren't any big issues with the app store and I am not sure why the blind community is all in a huff over it. JMO Ed On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote: It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was posted by apple insider. It talks about app store and voice over. Read the article and read some of the coments. Great to see this. Hit enter on the link below. Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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I don't think the store has been down graded. Nothing wrong with it. I just used it without thinking about it. People do not like change and probably Apple will do something although they are obliged to do nothing. I hope they don't think that visually impaired people are ungrateful. Sometimes I think visually impaired people are very ungrateful and do not appreciate how much work is put in to develop something. This is my opinion so please don't start arguing with me as it is how it can come across sometimes to me. Kawal. On 26 Sep 2012, at 17:46, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote: It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was posted by apple insider. It talks about app store and voice over. Read the article and read some of the coments. Great to see this. Hit enter on the link below. Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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I just think that sometimes the demand on our part can be a little too high. Patience is a virtue. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Sep 26, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Why do you say the blindness community is all in a huff over the App Store? I read the article, and they only refer to one blind person complaining about the AppStore. I haven't seen any other complaints surrounding the AppStore other than those that existed prior to the release of IOS 6. I don't think one person equates to the entire blindness community. I do agree though that sometimes these companies are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they don't make enough changes then they're labeled as stagnant or not being innovative enough. If they make too many changes then people complain about having to learn a whole new interface. On 26/09/12 13:53, Ed Worrell wrote: Hello, first off… I don't find the app store any harder to use with voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with the way the app store is handled on Apple's end they can make improvements on the fly without a huge app update, they can just do it over the server. There aren't any big issues with the app store and I am not sure why the blind community is all in a huff over it. JMO Ed On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote: It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was posted by apple insider. It talks about app store and voice over. Read the article and read some of the coments. Great to see this. Hit enter on the link below. Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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Rd; Some people aren't happy unless they have something to complain about. And, that goes for anyone wether sighted or blind. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Sep 26, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Ed Worrell blindworr...@optimum.net wrote: Hello, first off… I don't find the app store any harder to use with voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with the way the app store is handled on Apple's end they can make improvements on the fly without a huge app update, they can just do it over the server. There aren't any big issues with the app store and I am not sure why the blind community is all in a huff over it. JMO Ed On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote: It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was posted by apple insider. It talks about app store and voice over. Read the article and read some of the coments. Great to see this. Hit enter on the link below. Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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I concur Ed and I have had absolutely no problems navigating the App store, whether I am searching, purchasing, or updating apps. I really like the new store;, although I understand some do not necessarily like change. :) On Sep 26, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Ed Worrell blindworr...@optimum.net wrote: Hello, first off… I don't find the app store any harder to use with voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with the way the app store is handled on Apple's end they can make improvements on the fly without a huge app update, they can just do it over the server. There aren't any big issues with the app store and I am not sure why the blind community is all in a huff over it. JMO Ed On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote: It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was posted by apple insider. It talks about app store and voice over. Read the article and read some of the coments. Great to see this. Hit enter on the link below. Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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I would echo the comments regarding how simple the new store is, I have had no problems purchasing, searching, or updating apps. I think some of the confusion some may be experiencing has to do with the fact that under the old system the app download progress and the ability to open the app once it had finished downloading and installing was separate from the store and now it is combined. But folks that hold true for all users, we cannot say the store is not accessible, anyone can say they don't like the new store, but not in my opinion that it is not accessible. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 19:58 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i o s and visually impaired users I concur Ed and I have had absolutely no problems navigating the App store, whether I am searching, purchasing, or updating apps. I really like the new store;, although I understand some do not necessarily like change. :) On Sep 26, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Ed Worrell blindworr...@optimum.net wrote: Hello, first off. I don't find the app store any harder to use with voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with the way the app store is handled on Apple's end they can make improvements on the fly without a huge app update, they can just do it over the server. There aren't any big issues with the app store and I am not sure why the blind community is all in a huff over it. JMO Ed On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote: It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was posted by apple insider. It talks about app store and voice over. Read the article and read some of the coments. Great to see this. Hit enter on the link below. Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say -ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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Hello, have you tried to navigate the search results by headings? If you navigate this way it will take you all the way down the list and to the end page. hth Ed On Sep 26, 2012, at 8:31 PM, James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com wrote: I have had not problem making the store function, it is a little bothersome that in my experience I can not get a 3 finger swipe to change pages in search results though. It is ok in the updates list, but not in search results. I don't know if for some od reason I am just having that issue. Swiping through the items seems to make the page changes follow along, but can not find how to advance by page. On 9/26/12, Jesus Garcia jesusga...@gmail.com wrote: I would echo the comments regarding how simple the new store is, I have had no problems purchasing, searching, or updating apps. I think some of the confusion some may be experiencing has to do with the fact that under the old system the app download progress and the ability to open the app once it had finished downloading and installing was separate from the store and now it is combined. But folks that hold true for all users, we cannot say the store is not accessible, anyone can say they don't like the new store, but not in my opinion that it is not accessible. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 19:58 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: i o s and visually impaired users I concur Ed and I have had absolutely no problems navigating the App store, whether I am searching, purchasing, or updating apps. I really like the new store;, although I understand some do not necessarily like change. :) On Sep 26, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Ed Worrell blindworr...@optimum.net wrote: Hello, first off. I don't find the app store any harder to use with voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with the way the app store is handled on Apple's end they can make improvements on the fly without a huge app update, they can just do it over the server. There aren't any big issues with the app store and I am not sure why the blind community is all in a huff over it. JMO Ed On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote: It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was posted by apple insider. It talks about app store and voice over. Read the article and read some of the coments. Great to see this. Hit enter on the link below. Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say -ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group
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I have no problems as well navigating the App Store I find it easy using it. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 27/09/2012, at 9:58 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: I concur Ed and I have had absolutely no problems navigating the App store, whether I am searching, purchasing, or updating apps. I really like the new store;, although I understand some do not necessarily like change. :) On Sep 26, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Ed Worrell blindworr...@optimum.net wrote: Hello, first off… I don't find the app store any harder to use with voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with the way the app store is handled on Apple's end they can make improvements on the fly without a huge app update, they can just do it over the server. There aren't any big issues with the app store and I am not sure why the blind community is all in a huff over it. JMO Ed On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote: It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was posted by apple insider. It talks about app store and voice over. Read the article and read some of the coments. Great to see this. Hit enter on the link below. Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: i o s and visually impaired users
Using it is no problem and I think over all it is an upgrade. I can't help but wonder if the reason it was covered was because it was another opportunity to put a negative spin on the IPhone and things related by the media. The media and the press, in my view, they seem to absolutely hate the IPhone. They hate its success and they are doing everything they can to turn the tide against it. Sure you can find a few positive articles, but they are from a specific collection of people and sources. So they found what they could present as another trashing opportunity. Jim On 9/26/12, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I have no problems as well navigating the App Store I find it easy using it. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 27/09/2012, at 9:58 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote: I concur Ed and I have had absolutely no problems navigating the App store, whether I am searching, purchasing, or updating apps. I really like the new store;, although I understand some do not necessarily like change. :) On Sep 26, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Ed Worrell blindworr...@optimum.net wrote: Hello, first off… I don't find the app store any harder to use with voiceover. So what Apple moved around some tabs, people will always say that they like the old way of doing things, mostly because they are used to them. I don't find the app store or iTunes harder to use. Also with the way the app store is handled on Apple's end they can make improvements on the fly without a huge app update, they can just do it over the server. There aren't any big issues with the app store and I am not sure why the blind community is all in a huff over it. JMO Ed On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:46 AM, paras shah parasha...@gmail.com wrote: It is verry rare that we get this much atention. This article was posted by apple insider. It talks about app store and voice over. Read the article and read some of the coments. Great to see this. Hit enter on the link below. Visually impaired users say iOS 6 App Store redesign is a downgrade http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/visually-impaired-users-say-ios-6-app-store-redesign-is-a-downgrade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
