Re: orbit reader 20/password fileds

[Robert Doc Wright]

 Appendix G: Computer Braille Reference
: (Colon)
DOTS 1-5-6
; (SEMI COLON)
DOTS 5-6
( (LEFT PARENTHESIS)
DOTS 1-2-3-5-6
) (RIGHT PARENTHESIS)
DOTS 2-3-4-5-6
< (LESS THAN)
DOTS 1-2-6

(GREATER THAN)

DOTS 3-4-5
{ (LEFT BRACE)
DOTS 2-4-6
} (RIGHT BRACE)
DOTS 1-2-4-5-6
[ (LEFT BRACKET)
DOTS 7-2-4-6
] (RIGHT BRACKET)
DOTS 7-1-2-4-5-6
/ (SLASH)
DOTS 3-4
\ (BACKSLASH)
DOTS 7-1-2-5-6
* (ASTERISK OR STAR)
DOTS 1-6
# (NUMBER SIGN)
DOTS 3-4-5-6
$ (DOLLAR)
DOTS 1-2-4-6
? (QUESTION MARK)
DOTS 1-4-5-6
+ (PLUS)
DOTS 3-4-6
- (HYPHEN, DASH, MINUS)
DOTS 3-6
= (EQUALS)
DOTS 1-2-3-4-5-6
& (AND OR AMPERSAND)
DOTS 1-2-3-4-6
! (EXCLAIM)
DOTS 2-3-4-6
% (PERCENT)
DOTS 1-4-6
' (APOSTROPHE)
DOT 3
" (QUOTE)
DOT 5
, (COMMA)
DOT 6
. (PERIOD)
DOTS 4-6
@ (AT)
DOTS 7-4
_ (UNDERLINE)
DOTS 7-4-5-6
^ (CARET)
DOTS 7-4-5
~ (TILDE)
DOTS 4-5
` (GRAVE ACCENT)
DOT 4



- Original Message - 
From: "Kay Malmquist" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 5:21 AM
Subject: Re: orbit reader 20/password fileds



Actually, I'd be interested in that computer code list.  I hate the stuff,
but unfortunately there are times when I could use it. Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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habit.

-Aristotle.


- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Doc Wright" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 3:52 AM
Subject: Re: orbit reader 20/password fileds


god figured it out for me.
the field is treated as a computer braille field. What you also have to do
is change braille input to 8-dot and use dot 7 with the letter you wish to
capitalize.

I have a computer braille code list in both text and brf. If anyone is
interested.


- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Orozco" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: orbit reader 20/password fileds


Would a Space + U followed by the letter you want capitalized help?
So, for a capital R, you would first use U with Space followed by the
letter r. I hope that helps?--Joe

On 6/26/21, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:

How do I represent a capital letter in a password field?
  - Original Message -
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 7:09 PM
  Subject: Re: orbit reader 20


  You will have to enter it in computer 8 dot braille; and I'm not sure
what
happens when a symbol takes two cells or more.



  Richard




  Software means never having to say you're finished




On Jun 25, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
wrote:


?
A subject would have been helpful.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of

Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: orbit reader 20



I am having problems brailling my password on the iPhone. It seems to
be
having problems with special characters such as (~ !)  in the password.

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Re: orbit reader 20/password fileds

[Kay Malmquist]

Actually, I'd be interested in that computer code list.  I hate the stuff, 
but unfortunately there are times when I could use it. Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
-Aristotle.


- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Doc Wright" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 3:52 AM
Subject: Re: orbit reader 20/password fileds


god figured it out for me.
the field is treated as a computer braille field. What you also have to do
is change braille input to 8-dot and use dot 7 with the letter you wish to
capitalize.

I have a computer braille code list in both text and brf. If anyone is
interested.


- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Orozco" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: orbit reader 20/password fileds


Would a Space + U followed by the letter you want capitalized help?
So, for a capital R, you would first use U with Space followed by the
letter r. I hope that helps?--Joe

On 6/26/21, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:
> How do I represent a capital letter in a password field?
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Richard Turner
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 7:09 PM
>   Subject: Re: orbit reader 20
>
>
>   You will have to enter it in computer 8 dot braille; and I'm not sure
> what
> happens when a symbol takes two cells or more.
>
>
>
>   Richard
>
>
>
>
>   Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
> wrote:
>
>
> ?
> A subject would have been helpful.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 6:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: orbit reader 20
>
>
>
> I am having problems brailling my password on the iPhone. It seems to
> be
> having problems with special characters such as (~ !)  in the password.
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Re: orbit reader 20/password fileds

[Robert Doc Wright]

god figured it out for me.
the field is treated as a computer braille field. What you also have to do 
is change braille input to 8-dot and use dot 7 with the letter you wish to 
capitalize.


I have a computer braille code list in both text and brf. If anyone is 
interested.



- Original Message - 
From: "Joe Orozco" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: orbit reader 20/password fileds


Would a Space + U followed by the letter you want capitalized help?
So, for a capital R, you would first use U with Space followed by the
letter r. I hope that helps?--Joe

On 6/26/21, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:

How do I represent a capital letter in a password field?
  - Original Message -
  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 7:09 PM
  Subject: Re: orbit reader 20


  You will have to enter it in computer 8 dot braille; and I'm not sure 
what

happens when a symbol takes two cells or more.



  Richard




  Software means never having to say you're finished




On Jun 25, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
wrote:



A subject would have been helpful.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: orbit reader 20



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RE: orbit reader 20/password fileds

[Richard Turner]

That might work with Humanware displays, but not Orbit displays as far as I 
know.
Humanware I think were the ones who introduced that layered keystroke in their 
keysoft system.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2021 6:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: orbit reader 20/password fileds

Would a Space + U followed by the letter you want capitalized help?
So, for a capital R, you would first use U with Space followed by the letter r. 
I hope that helps?--Joe

On 6/26/21, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:
> How do I represent a capital letter in a password field?
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Richard Turner
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 7:09 PM
>   Subject: Re: orbit reader 20
>
>
>   You will have to enter it in computer 8 dot braille; and I'm not 
> sure what happens when a symbol takes two cells or more.
>
>
>
>   Richard
>
>
>
>
>   Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
> 
> wrote:
>
>
> 
> A subject would have been helpful.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 6:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: orbit reader 20
>
>
>
> I am having problems brailling my password on the iPhone. It seems 
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Re: orbit reader 20/password fileds

[Joe Orozco]

Would a Space + U followed by the letter you want capitalized help?
So, for a capital R, you would first use U with Space followed by the
letter r. I hope that helps?--Joe

On 6/26/21, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:
> How do I represent a capital letter in a password field?
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Richard Turner
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 7:09 PM
>   Subject: Re: orbit reader 20
>
>
>   You will have to enter it in computer 8 dot braille; and I'm not sure what
> happens when a symbol takes two cells or more.
>
>
>
>   Richard
>
>
>
>
>   Software means never having to say you're finished
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
> wrote:
>
>
> 
> A subject would have been helpful.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 6:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: orbit reader 20
>
>
>
> I am having problems brailling my password on the iPhone. It seems to be
> having problems with special characters such as (~ !)  in the password.
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Re: orbit reader 20/password fileds

[Robert Doc Wright]

How do I represent a capital letter in a password field? 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 7:09 PM
  Subject: Re: orbit reader 20


  You will have to enter it in computer 8 dot braille; and I'm not sure what 
happens when a symbol takes two cells or more. 



  Richard 




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A subject would have been helpful.





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Re: orbit reader 20

[Richard Turner]

You will have to enter it in computer 8 dot braille; and I'm not sure what 
happens when a symbol takes two cells or more.


Richard


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RE: orbit reader 20

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A subject would have been helpful.

 

 

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orbit reader 20

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RE: Inquiry orbit reader 20+

[Richard Turner]

I'll answer what I can in context.
, I've been doing some googling on the orbit reader 20+. The one thing I cannot 
figure out is if it has cursor routing keys.

* No cursor routing keys.

What are the differences between the original orbit reader and the new orbit 
reader 20+?
* The 20 plus can translate plain text files into whatever braille grade you 
want to use.  There are 4 Profiles that you can set to different braille codes 
and switch to the one you want on the fly.  It also has a clock, calendar, and 
calculator; though they are very basic.
It has newer chips in the hardware.

If I have files stored on the SD card, how can I navigate them? Headings, 
paragraphs, etc.?
* There is paragraph navigation but no heading navigation as this is just 
working with plain text files.  You can navigate by word or character or line 
to an extent.

What are your thoughts on the refresh rate of the device? I have read that it 
is a bit slower than traditional braille displays.
* It refreshes differently than other displays by starting with the first cell 
and going across.  If you read several hundred words a minute, you may have to 
slow up a bit, but I find the refresh rate just fine.
I had used a Braille Edge 40 for work the last 5 years and various HIMS and 
Humanware displays before that and the Orbit Reader suits me just fine.

I briefly owned the orbit writer, but that device did not work out for me. One 
reason was I could never update it successfully. What is the update process 
like for the orbit reader 20+? Can it be done without a Windows PC?
* Yes, the 20 plus can be updated by putting the .bin file on the SD card and 
running the update process.  You could either use an SD card reader or put the 
device in what they call Mass Storage Mode while it is connected to your 
computer and then your computer sees it as a drive and you would just copy the 
.bin file on the card, and go from there.
The manuals are on their web site and I have links to all that and more from my 
web site: www.turner42.com where I have an Orbit Research Information page: 
www.turner42.com/ori.html

And maybe lastly, since I am familiar with what the keys look like on the orbit 
writer, what are the braille keys like on the orbit reader 20+?
* The keys are the same on the 20 plus.  If you imagine the writer with a 
braille display connected to it, you have the 20 plus.

Thank you,
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Inquiry orbit reader 20+

[Traci Duncan]

, I've been doing some googling on the orbit reader 20+. The one thing I cannot 
figure out is if it has cursor routing keys.

What are the differences between the original orbit reader and the new orbit 
reader 20+?
If I have files stored on the SD card, how can I navigate them? Headings, 
paragraphs, etc.?
What are your thoughts on the refresh rate of the device? I have read that it 
is a bit slower than traditional braille displays.

I briefly owned the orbit writer, but that device did not work out for me. One 
reason was I could never update it successfully. What is the update process 
like for the orbit reader 20+? Can it be done without a Windows PC?

And maybe lastly, since I am familiar with what the keys look like on the orbit 
writer, what are the braille keys like on the orbit reader 20+?

Thank you,
Traci

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Re: Tutorial on Mac with Orbit Reader 20?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Thank you - I’ll use this while seeking some step by step guidance for a mere 
beginner like me. I suppose ideally I’d find some teacher to meet with but in 
York in the UK, such people cannot be found. 
Regards
Harry

> On 12 Nov 2020, at 20:30, Agent086b  wrote:
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> Hi,
> the below link might be what you want.
> https://tech.aph.org/or20/
> Max.
> 
>> On 13 Nov 2020, at 12:11 am, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
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>> I’d like to find a tutorial on connecting and using my Orbit Reader 20 
>> Braille display with my Mac. I only want to input text 6 dot UEB) and 
>> navigate rather than use the display to read at the moment. I’m currently 
>> using a MacBook Pro about to upgrade to Big Sur but I’ve ordered a new Mac 
>> mini
>> Regards
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Re: Tutorial on Mac with Orbit Reader 20?

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Hi,
the below link might be what you want.
https://tech.aph.org/or20/ <https://tech.aph.org/or20/>
Max.

> On 13 Nov 2020, at 12:11 am, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
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> Braille display with my Mac. I only want to input text 6 dot UEB) and 
> navigate rather than use the display to read at the moment. I’m currently 
> using a MacBook Pro about to upgrade to Big Sur but I’ve ordered a new Mac 
> mini
> Regards
> Harry
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Tutorial on Mac with Orbit Reader 20?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I’d like to find a tutorial on connecting and using my Orbit Reader 20 Braille 
display with my Mac. I only want to input text 6 dot UEB) and navigate rather 
than use the display to read at the moment. I’m currently using a MacBook Pro 
about to upgrade to Big Sur but I’ve ordered a new Mac mini
Regards
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Re: orbit reader 20 typing problem in all apps

[Jennie Facer]

I don't think this has been fixed since I have started using a Braille display. 
I have never been able to do this. I don't use an orbit either. I use a focus 
40. I'll also report.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Jun 10, 2020, at 4:16 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>>> when i use my orbit reader 20 with my iphone 7 on ios 13.5.1 as i am in 
>>> writing this email, i notice that the norma; autoccorrect and auto 
>>> capitalisation features do not work!
>>> I have now changed for a minute to using the onscreen keyboard and all 
>>> works fine
>>> i resume on my  braille display and the faetures stop working! has  this 
>>> always been a problem or is this a recent bug?
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RE: orbit reader 20 typing problem in all apps

[Richard Turner]

Even though I don't use that feature, I submitted sent an Email to Apple 
Accessibility.



Richard
Feelings are like farts; they are better out than in.


-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 6:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: orbit reader 20 typing problem in all apps

Yes - though I’d encourage others to do so too, as the more, the merrier!
Harry

> On 10 Jun 2020, at 14:22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Right.
> Have you written apple accessibility?
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> Feelings are like farts; they are better out than in.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 6:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: orbit reader 20 typing problem in all apps
> 
> Auto capitalise and auto correct both work with Logitech K480 but not 
> Orbit Reader 20
> 
>> On 10 Jun 2020, at 12:58, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> I do not think that works with any hardware keyboard, Braille or QWERTY.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> Chicken: A pet that poops breakfast
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Jun 10, 2020, at 3:16 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> when i use my orbit reader 20 with my iphone 7 on ios 13.5.1 as i am in 
>>>>> writing this email, i notice that the norma; autoccorrect and auto 
>>>>> capitalisation features do not work!
>>>>> I have now changed for a minute to using the onscreen keyboard and 
>>>>> all works fine i resume on my  braille display and the faetures stop 
>>>>> working! has  this always been a problem or is this a recent bug?
>>> 
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Re: orbit reader 20 typing problem in all apps

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Yes - though I’d encourage others to do so too, as the more, the merrier!
Harry

> On 10 Jun 2020, at 14:22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Right.
> Have you written apple accessibility?
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> Feelings are like farts; they are better out than in.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 6:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: orbit reader 20 typing problem in all apps
> 
> Auto capitalise and auto correct both work with Logitech K480 but not Orbit 
> Reader 20
> 
>> On 10 Jun 2020, at 12:58, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> I do not think that works with any hardware keyboard, Braille or QWERTY.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> Chicken: A pet that poops breakfast
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Jun 10, 2020, at 3:16 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> when i use my orbit reader 20 with my iphone 7 on ios 13.5.1 as i am in 
>>>>> writing this email, i notice that the norma; autoccorrect and auto 
>>>>> capitalisation features do not work!
>>>>> I have now changed for a minute to using the onscreen keyboard and 
>>>>> all works fine i resume on my  braille display and the faetures stop 
>>>>> working! has  this always been a problem or is this a recent bug?
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RE: orbit reader 20 typing problem in all apps

[Richard Turner]

Right.
Have you written apple accessibility?



Richard
Feelings are like farts; they are better out than in.


-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 6:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: orbit reader 20 typing problem in all apps

Auto capitalise and auto correct both work with Logitech K480 but not Orbit 
Reader 20

> On 10 Jun 2020, at 12:58, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> I do not think that works with any hardware keyboard, Braille or QWERTY.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> Chicken: A pet that poops breakfast
> 
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2020, at 3:16 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> when i use my orbit reader 20 with my iphone 7 on ios 13.5.1 as i am in 
>>>> writing this email, i notice that the norma; autoccorrect and auto 
>>>> capitalisation features do not work!
>>>> I have now changed for a minute to using the onscreen keyboard and 
>>>> all works fine i resume on my  braille display and the faetures stop 
>>>> working! has  this always been a problem or is this a recent bug?
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Re: orbit reader 20 typing problem in all apps

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Auto capitalise and auto correct both work with Logitech K480 but not Orbit 
Reader 20

> On 10 Jun 2020, at 12:58, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> I do not think that works with any hardware keyboard, Braille or QWERTY.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> Chicken: A pet that poops breakfast
> 
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2020, at 3:16 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> when i use my orbit reader 20 with my iphone 7 on ios 13.5.1 as i am in 
>>>> writing this email, i notice that the norma; autoccorrect and auto 
>>>> capitalisation features do not work!
>>>> I have now changed for a minute to using the onscreen keyboard and all 
>>>> works fine
>>>> i resume on my  braille display and the faetures stop working! has  this 
>>>> always been a problem or is this a recent bug?
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RE: orbit reader 20 typing problem in all apps

[Richard Turner]

Perfect question for accessibil...@apple.com
I never use that feature so thought maybe it didn't work on hardware keyboards.
That's what happens when you guess.




Richard
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-Original Message-
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 5:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: orbit reader 20 typing problem in all apps

I am typing this reply with my Logitech K480 The initial capital letter does 
appear in these sentences without me pressing the caps key. As for the pronoun 
I it does auto capitalise. Then I mistyped a word it does autocorrect

So, if a QWERTY Bluetooth keyboard can access autocapitalisation and 
autocorrection, why not a Braille keyboard?

> On 10 Jun 2020, at 12:58, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> I do not think that works with any hardware keyboard, Braille or QWERTY.
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>>>> when i use my orbit reader 20 with my iphone 7 on ios 13.5.1 as i am in 
>>>> writing this email, i notice that the norma; autoccorrect and auto 
>>>> capitalisation features do not work!
>>>> I have now changed for a minute to using the onscreen keyboard and 
>>>> all works fine i resume on my  braille display and the faetures stop 
>>>> working! has  this always been a problem or is this a recent bug?
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Re: orbit reader 20 typing problem in all apps

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

I am typing this reply with my Logitech K480
The initial capital letter does appear in these sentences without me pressing 
the caps key. As for the pronoun I it does auto capitalise. Then I mistyped a 
word it does autocorrect

So, if a QWERTY Bluetooth keyboard can access autocapitalisation and 
autocorrection, why not a Braille keyboard?

> On 10 Jun 2020, at 12:58, Richard Turner  wrote:
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> I do not think that works with any hardware keyboard, Braille or QWERTY.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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>> On Jun 10, 2020, at 3:16 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
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>>> 
>>>> when i use my orbit reader 20 with my iphone 7 on ios 13.5.1 as i am in 
>>>> writing this email, i notice that the norma; autoccorrect and auto 
>>>> capitalisation features do not work!
>>>> I have now changed for a minute to using the onscreen keyboard and all 
>>>> works fine
>>>> i resume on my  braille display and the faetures stop working! has  this 
>>>> always been a problem or is this a recent bug?
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Re: orbit reader 20 typing problem in all apps

[Richard Turner]

I do not think that works with any hardware keyboard, Braille or QWERTY.



Richard
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> On Jun 10, 2020, at 3:16 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
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> 
>> 
>>> when i use my orbit reader 20 with my iphone 7 on ios 13.5.1 as i am in 
>>> writing this email, i notice that the norma; autoccorrect and auto 
>>> capitalisation features do not work!
>>> I have now changed for a minute to using the onscreen keyboard and all 
>>> works fine
>>> i resume on my  braille display and the faetures stop working! has  this 
>>> always been a problem or is this a recent bug?
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orbit reader 20 typing problem in all apps

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

>> when i use my orbit reader 20 with my iphone 7 on ios 13.5.1 as i am in 
>> writing this email, i notice that the norma; autoccorrect and auto 
>> capitalisation features do not work!
>> I have now changed for a minute to using the onscreen keyboard and all works 
>> fine
>> i resume on my  braille display and the faetures stop working! has  this 
>> always been a problem or is this a recent bug?

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RE: Orbit Reader 20 plus

[richring]

Thanks for your quick response! Thinking of buying one!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Orbit Reader 20 plus

 

Yes.

You may also consider joining the Orbit Reader list.

It is a very nice, compact display.

The fact that it can open txt files and you can edit them using contracted 
braille, then open them from the SD card on a computer and read them with your 
chosen word processer is a big improvement.

The braille truly does feel like signage braille.  The dots actually stand up a 
little taller than other displays and I think is the best feeling braille of 
any displays.  I have used the braillenotes, braille senses/BrailleEdge, and 
the Focus displays.

 

 

 

Richard

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Has anyone on this list had any experience with this Braille display? Any 
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RE: Orbit Reader 20 plus

[Richard Turner]

Yes.
You may also consider joining the Orbit Reader list.
It is a very nice, compact display.
The fact that it can open txt files and you can edit them using contracted 
braille, then open them from the SD card on a computer and read them with your 
chosen word processer is a big improvement.
The braille truly does feel like signage braille.  The dots actually stand up a 
little taller than other displays and I think is the best feeling braille of 
any displays.  I have used the braillenotes, braille senses/BrailleEdge, and 
the Focus displays.



Richard
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RE: Orbit Reader 20 plus

[Larry Lumpkin]

We have been using the orbit 20 original for several years now and love it. We 
have had no problems and it meets our needs just fine.

 

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Orbit Reader 20 plus

[richring]

Has anyone on this list had any experience with this Braille display? Any
thoughts or observations would be appreciated.

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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[Richard Turner]

Not from the iOS device.
You have to get the file, as a brf file on to the SD card that you put in the 
Orbit Reader.
If you load a txt file on the SD card, it will read in computer braille.
So you need a program like Braille Blaster, which is free, to save the file as 
BRF in whatever grade of braille you prefer.
HTH,
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On Jun 5, 2019, at 1:37 PM, TaraPrakash 
mailto:taraprak...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hey Richard and all.
Can you transfer a document to orbit reader and read it independently off the 
ios device?


Sent from my iPhone

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mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


You certainly can use grade 1, uncontracted, braille on the Orbit if you wish.
I did not bring mine to work today, but I'm quite sure you have the option.
Richard


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On Jun 4, 2019, at 9:56 AM, alia robinson 
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nope, not the orbit.

On Jun 4, 2019, at 12:45 PM, Traci Duncan 
mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I knew about the cursor routing keys, but I didn’t know about the braille 
grade. It does not switch between grade one and grade 2?


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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[TaraPrakash]

Hey Richard and all. 
Can you transfer a document to orbit reader and read it independently off the 
ios device?  


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 4, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> You certainly can use grade 1, uncontracted, braille on the Orbit if you wish.
> I did not bring mine to work today, but I'm quite sure you have the option.
> Richard
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
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> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
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> any." -- Alice Walker
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> On Jun 4, 2019, at 9:56 AM, alia robinson  wrote:
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>> nope, not the orbit.
>> 
>> On Jun 4, 2019, at 12:45 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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>> grade. It does not switch between grade one and grade 2?
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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[alia robinson]

I didn’t say stand alone mode had anything to do with ios, in fact I said in 
ios you can change it however ios does. 

and that is *exactly what I said*! 



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Alia,
Stand Alone mode has nothing to do with using it with iOS.

It has been established that you were someone had been talking about changing 
the reading mode on the fly, and that no you cannot do that in Stand Alone mode 
since the Orbit depends on the grade of the brf file.
But when using it with an iOS device, you can toggle between grades just fine, 
like every other braille display.
Richard

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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[Richard Turner]

Alia,
Stand Alone mode has nothing to do with using it with iOS.

It has been established that you were someone had been talking about changing 
the reading mode on the fly, and that no you cannot do that in Stand Alone mode 
since the Orbit depends on the grade of the brf file.
But when using it with an iOS device, you can toggle between grades just fine, 
like every other braille display.
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not in standalone mode, no. you can do whatever the ios you’re pairing with 
does, but it has *no* onboard translation.

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on iOs? Input and output?

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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[alia robinson]

not in standalone mode, no. you can do whatever the ios you’re pairing with 
does, but it has *no* onboard translation.

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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

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Yes.
The braille grade is controlled by iOS, not by the device.

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I’m sorry guys, I’m confused. On the Orbit can I change between braille grades 
on iOs? Input and output?

Thanks,
Traci

Sent from my iPhone

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Therefore, the subscription address for the new ggoup would be:

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Hi all,

I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has 
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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[Traci Duncan]

I’m sorry guys, I’m confused. On the Orbit can I change between braille grades 
on iOs? Input and output? 

Thanks, 
Traci 

Sent from my iPhone

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>> 
>>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has 
>>> auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[Flor Lynch]

Therefore, the subscription address for the new ggoup would be:

orbit-reader+subscr...@groups.io

From: Agent086b
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 10:42 PM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?
Hi,
the old list has closed. A new list has started I can’t remember the 
subscription details, but the list owner’s address is
Group Owner: orbit-reader+ow...@groups.io

Max.

  On 4 Jun 2019, at 7:28 am, 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

  Speaking of the Orbit, does anyone know if the Or20 list is still up and 
running?

  Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with 
your contact information and I will happily add you.
  maria.reye...@icloud.com


On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:

Hi all,

I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now 
has auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?

Thank you,
Traci

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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[Beverly Wieland]

I have been using the Orbit for a year now, mostly for reading rather than 
for editing.


I don't know about the panning buttons on the Braille Me.  But I like the 
fact that controls on either side of the Orbit will pan in both 
directions.
I have always been a strictly right-handed Braille reader, as everything I 
read with my left hand feels backwards.  So I am happy to be able to move 
in both directions with the left panning control.


My other favorite feature is 8-dot Braille, which I would miss on the 
Braille Me.
I got used to reading computer Braille when I studied computer science in 
the 1980's.


Also the quality of the dots is excellent.

Just another perspective, for what it's worth.

Beverly


On Tue, 4 Jun 2019, Richard Turner wrote:



I ink I now understand what she meant.
Since the Orbit does not do translation; you can read only what grade of 
braille the BRF file is created with.
So, if it is a grade 1 file, you read grade 1, if a grade 2 file you read grade 
2.
And with the editor, yes it will take whatever you enter.
Just don't try to back translate that BRF file to print or you might get some 
odd results.
Richard


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On Jun 4, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
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There's no option. You just braille. The orbit doesn't care what you put in.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of alia robinson
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thatÿÿs ot what we were discussing. it canÿÿt switch between grades. the 
BrailleMe can.

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mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


You certainly can use grade 1, uncontracted, braille on the Orbit if you wish.
I did not bring mine to work today, but I'm quite sure you have the option.
Richard

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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[Richard Turner]

I ink I now understand what she meant.
Since the Orbit does not do translation; you can read only what grade of 
braille the BRF file is created with.
So, if it is a grade 1 file, you read grade 1, if a grade 2 file you read grade 
2.
And with the editor, yes it will take whatever you enter.
Just don't try to back translate that BRF file to print or you might get some 
odd results.
Richard


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On Jun 4, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
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There's no option. You just braille. The orbit doesn't care what you put in.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of alia 
robinson
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that’s ot what we were discussing. it can’t switch between grades. the 
BrailleMe can.

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mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


You certainly can use grade 1, uncontracted, braille on the Orbit if you wish.
I did not bring mine to work today, but I'm quite sure you have the option.
Richard

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RE: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[Larry Lumpkin]

There's no option. You just braille. The orbit doesn't care what you put in.


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robinson
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that’s ot what we were discussing. it can’t switch between grades. the 
BrailleMe can.

On Jun 4, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


You certainly can use grade 1, uncontracted, braille on the Orbit if you wish.
I did not bring mine to work today, but I'm quite sure you have the option.
Richard

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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[alia robinson]

they are as reliable as the orbit was, imo. I sent the orbit back and kept the 
BrailleMe.

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I've had an interest in the BrailleMe, but are the dot bugs fixed?

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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

['Maria Reyes' via VIPhone]

I've had an interest in the BrailleMe, but are the dot bugs fixed?

Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with your 
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> On Jun 4, 2019, at 3:29 PM, alia robinson  wrote:
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> that’s ot what we were discussing. it can’t switch between grades. the 
> BrailleMe can.
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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[alia robinson]

that’s ot what we were discussing. it can’t switch between grades. the 
BrailleMe can.

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You certainly can use grade 1, uncontracted, braille on the Orbit if you wish.
I did not bring mine to work today, but I'm quite sure you have the option.
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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

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You certainly can use grade 1, uncontracted, braille on the Orbit if you wish.
I did not bring mine to work today, but I'm quite sure you have the option.
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nope, not the orbit.

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I knew about the cursor routing keys, but I didn’t know about the braille 
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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[alia robinson]

nope, not the orbit.

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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[Traci Duncan]

I knew about the cursor routing keys, but I didn’t know about the braille 
grade. It does not switch between grade one and grade 2?

Traci

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 4, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
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> We think the BrailleMe has dot problems that we’re not willing to put up with.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of alia 
> robinson
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>  
> to be fair there are only two!LMAO, and the BrailleMe has cursor routing and 
> the ability to change braille grades, so no I don’t think it’s the *best* 
> they are different, and for the amount of money you pay you get way more 
> features on the BrailleMe.
>  
> On Jun 4, 2019, at 11:55 AM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
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RE: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

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We think the BrailleMe has dot problems that we’re not willing to put up with.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of alia 
robinson
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

 

to be fair there are only two!LMAO, and the BrailleMe has cursor routing and 
the ability to change braille grades, so no I don’t think it’s the *best* they 
are different, and for the amount of money you pay you get way more features on 
the BrailleMe.

 

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We think the orbit 20 is the best braille display/note taker for the money out 
there even for the extra $150 you have to pay from Orbit Research.

 

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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[alia robinson]

to be fair there are only two!LMAO, and the BrailleMe has cursor routing and 
the ability to change braille grades, so no I don’t think it’s the *best* they 
are different, and for the amount of money you pay you get way more features on 
the BrailleMe.

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We think the orbit 20 is the best braille display/note taker for the money out 
there even for the extra $150 you have to pay from Orbit Research.

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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[Richard Turner]

As far as I can tell, the Orbit is here to stay.
I personally love it.
If they stop making them in a year, I will still be happy since it costs so 
much less than other displays and if it dies; I'll start saving up for whatever 
comes next.
But, I cannot say if you should or should not buy it.
Richard


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On Jun 4, 2019, at 7:48 AM, Traci Duncan 
mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>> wrote:

What are peoples opinions? Should this put me off buying the orbit? Is it 
already getting a little too old? My current display is the focus 14 blue. The 
original one as far as I know. From 6-7 years ago.

I appreciate your input,
Traci

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


The subscription address to the new Orbit Reader list is:
orbit-reader+subscr...@groups.io

Richard


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On Jun 3, 2019, at 7:53 PM, Donna 
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If the R20 list was the list started by APH, No. This list closed a month or so 
ago. When APH decided not to sell the orbit reader.

Donna

Hi,
the old list has closed. A new list has started I can’t remember the 
subscription details, but the list owner’s address is
Group Owner: orbit-reader+ow...@groups.io
Max.
On 4 Jun 2019, at 7:28 am, 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Speaking of the Orbit, does anyone know if the Or20 list is still up and 
running?

Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with your 
contact information and I will happily add you.
maria.reye...@icloud.com

On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Traci Duncan 
mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has 
auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?

Thank you,
Traci

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We think the orbit 20 is the best braille display/note taker for the money out 
there even for the extra $150 you have to pay from Orbit Research.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

 

What are peoples opinions? Should this put me off buying the orbit? Is it 
already getting a little too old? My current display is the focus 14 blue. The 
original one as far as I know. From 6-7 years ago.

 

I appreciate your input,
Traci

 

Sent from my iPhone


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The subscription address to the new Orbit Reader list is: 

orbit-reader+subscr...@groups.io <mailto:orbit-reader+subscr...@groups.io> 

 

Richard

 

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If the R20 list was the list started by APH, No. This list closed a month or so 
ago. When APH decided not to sell the orbit reader. 

 

Donna

 

Hi, 

the old list has closed. A new list has started I can’t remember the 
subscription details, but the list owner’s address is

Group Owner: orbit-reader+ow...@groups.io <mailto:orbit-reader+ow...@groups.io> 

Max.



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Speaking of the Orbit, does anyone know if the Or20 list is still up and 
running?

Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with your 
contact information and I will happily add you. 
maria.reye...@icloud.com <mailto:maria.reye...@icloud.com> 




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Hi all,

I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has 
auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?

Thank you,
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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[Traci Duncan]

What are peoples opinions? Should this put me off buying the orbit? Is it 
already getting a little too old? My current display is the focus 14 blue. The 
original one as far as I know. From 6-7 years ago.

I appreciate your input,
Traci

Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> On Jun 3, 2019, at 7:53 PM, Donna  wrote:
> 
>> If the R20 list was the list started by APH, No. This list closed a month or 
>> so ago. When APH decided not to sell the orbit reader. 
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> the old list has closed. A new list has started I can’t remember the 
>>> subscription details, but the list owner’s address is
>>> Group Owner: orbit-reader+ow...@groups.io
>>> Max.
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  wrote:
 
 Speaking of the Orbit, does anyone know if the Or20 list is still up and 
 running?
 
 Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with 
 your contact information and I will happily add you. 
 maria.reye...@icloud.com
 
> On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now 
> has auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?
> 
> Thank you,
> Traci
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New Orbit list, was Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[Richard Turner]

The subscription address to the new Orbit Reader list is:
orbit-reader+subscr...@groups.io

Richard


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On Jun 3, 2019, at 7:53 PM, Donna 
mailto:merma...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:

If the R20 list was the list started by APH, No. This list closed a month or so 
ago. When APH decided not to sell the orbit reader.

Donna

Hi,
the old list has closed. A new list has started I can’t remember the 
subscription details, but the list owner’s address is
Group Owner: orbit-reader+ow...@groups.io
Max.
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Speaking of the Orbit, does anyone know if the Or20 list is still up and 
running?

Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with your 
contact information and I will happily add you.
maria.reye...@icloud.com

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mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has 
auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?

Thank you,
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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[Donna]

If the R20 list was the list started by APH, No. This list closed a month or so 
ago. When APH decided not to sell the orbit reader. 

Donna
> 
> Hi,
> the old list has closed. A new list has started I can’t remember the 
> subscription details, but the list owner’s address is
> Group Owner: orbit-reader+ow...@groups.io
> Max.
>> On 4 Jun 2019, at 7:28 am, 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Speaking of the Orbit, does anyone know if the Or20 list is still up and 
>> running?
>> 
>> Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with 
>> your contact information and I will happily add you. 
>> maria.reye...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has 
>>> auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Traci
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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[Richard Turner]

The statement from APH only said they were going to stop selling it because 
they want to be able to provide an affordable braille option and that the 
supply stream was not dependable.
Well, according to Orbit research when APH released their statement, Orbit had 
2000 units in stock.
So you can speculate all you want; but the reality is that APH chose to stop 
selling it.
If you want to know more about the whys, you may want to contact APH directly.
HTH,
Richard


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On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:11 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:

We don’t know. Orbit Research seems to have broken their agreements with many 
of the Braille Transforming Group members.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 6:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

🤔 anyone know why it’s not available anymore through APH? I didn’t realize that 
the product is already a couple years old.

Traci


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin 
mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>> wrote:
No, the orbit reader is not available from APH but you can still buy it from 
Orbit Research for $600 or so.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of terri 
elliott
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

Hi.  Does this mean that you can still get the orbit reader?  Is it still 
available from the American Printing House for the blind?  Thanks.

Terri
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I've been using that update for a couple weeks I think.
The autoscroll works very nicely on files that are on your SD card.
You simply press spacebar to start the scrolling.
You can slow it down or speed it up.
I don't recall the keys but it will be in the release notes.
I think that was the main thing, but there is probably more to it.
And, for the person asking about the OR20 list; no it is gone; but Buddy 
Brannon started a new list.
Richard

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from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59



The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:28 PM, 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Speaking of the Orbit, does anyone know if the Or20 list is still up and 
running?

Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with your 
contact information and I will happily add you.
maria.reye...@icloud.com<mailto:maria.reye...@icloud.com>



On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Traci Duncan 
mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has 
auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?

Thank you,
Traci

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RE: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[Larry Lumpkin]

We don’t know. Orbit Research seems to have broken their agreements with many 
of the Braille Transforming Group members.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 6:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

 

🤔 anyone know why it’s not available anymore through APH? I didn’t realize that 
the product is already a couple years old.

Traci

 

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> > wrote:

No, the orbit reader is not available from APH but you can still buy it from 
Orbit Research for $600 or so.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
terri elliott
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

 

Hi.  Does this mean that you can still get the orbit reader?  Is it still 
available from the American Printing House for the blind?  Thanks.

 

Terri

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

I've been using that update for a couple weeks I think. 

The autoscroll works very nicely on files that are on your SD card.

You simply press spacebar to start the scrolling.

You can slow it down or speed it up.

I don't recall the keys but it will be in the release notes.

I think that was the main thing, but there is probably more to it.

And, for the person asking about the OR20 list; no it is gone; but Buddy 
Brannon started a new list.

Richard

 

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flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:28 PM, 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Speaking of the Orbit, does anyone know if the Or20 list is still up and 
running?

Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with your 
contact information and I will happily add you. 
maria.reye...@icloud.com <mailto:maria.reye...@icloud.com> 





On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Traci Duncan mailto:our4p...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has 
auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?

 

Thank you,

Traci

 

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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[Traci Duncan]

🤔 anyone know why it’s not available anymore through APH? I didn’t realize that 
the product is already a couple years old.

Traci


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:
> 
> No, the orbit reader is not available from APH but you can still buy it from 
> Orbit Research for $600 or so.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of terri 
> elliott
> Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 4:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?
>  
> Hi.  Does this mean that you can still get the orbit reader?  Is it still 
> available from the American Printing House for the blind?  Thanks.
>  
> Terri
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  
> I've been using that update for a couple weeks I think.
> The autoscroll works very nicely on files that are on your SD card.
> You simply press spacebar to start the scrolling.
> You can slow it down or speed it up.
> I don't recall the keys but it will be in the release notes.
> I think that was the main thing, but there is probably more to it.
> And, for the person asking about the OR20 list; no it is gone; but Buddy 
> Brannon started a new list.
> Richard
>  
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
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> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>  
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
> any." -- Alice Walker
>  
> 
> On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:28 PM, 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Speaking of the Orbit, does anyone know if the Or20 list is still up and 
> running?
> 
> Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with your 
> contact information and I will happily add you. 
> maria.reye...@icloud.com
> 
> 
> On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has 
> auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?
>  
> Thank you,
> Traci
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RE: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[Larry Lumpkin]

No, the orbit reader is not available from APH but you can still buy it from 
Orbit Research for $600 or so.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of terri 
elliott
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

 

Hi.  Does this mean that you can still get the orbit reader?  Is it still 
available from the American Printing House for the blind?  Thanks.

 

Terri

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

I've been using that update for a couple weeks I think. 

The autoscroll works very nicely on files that are on your SD card.

You simply press spacebar to start the scrolling.

You can slow it down or speed it up.

I don't recall the keys but it will be in the release notes.

I think that was the main thing, but there is probably more to it.

And, for the person asking about the OR20 list; no it is gone; but Buddy 
Brannon started a new list.

Richard

 

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Hi all,

 

I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has 
auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?

 

Thank you,

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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[terri elliott]

Hi.  Does this mean that you can still get the orbit reader?  Is it still 
available from the American Printing House for the blind?  Thanks.

Terri

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I've been using that update for a couple weeks I think.
> The autoscroll works very nicely on files that are on your SD card.
> You simply press spacebar to start the scrolling.
> You can slow it down or speed it up.
> I don't recall the keys but it will be in the release notes.
> I think that was the main thing, but there is probably more to it.
> And, for the person asking about the OR20 list; no it is gone; but Buddy 
> Brannon started a new list.
> Richard
> 
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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

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Hi,
the old list has closed. A new list has started I can’t remember the 
subscription details, but the list owner’s address is
Group Owner: orbit-reader+ow...@groups.io 
Max.
> On 4 Jun 2019, at 7:28 am, 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone 
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>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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Re: Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[Richard Turner]

I've been using that update for a couple weeks I think.
The autoscroll works very nicely on files that are on your SD card.
You simply press spacebar to start the scrolling.
You can slow it down or speed it up.
I don't recall the keys but it will be in the release notes.
I think that was the main thing, but there is probably more to it.
And, for the person asking about the OR20 list; no it is gone; but Buddy 
Brannon started a new list.
Richard


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On Jun 3, 2019, at 2:28 PM, 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone 
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Speaking of the Orbit, does anyone know if the Or20 list is still up and 
running?

Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with your 
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Hi all,

I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has 
auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?

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Speaking of the Orbit, does anyone know if the Or20 list is still up and 
running?

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contact information and I will happily add you. 
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> On Jun 3, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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Orbit Reader 20 update, changes for iOs?

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all,

I caught a tweet today that said he updated his Orbit Reader and it now has 
auto scrolling.  Does anyone know anymore about this?

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Re: Braille: Orbit Reader 20 update

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Thanks - I’ve contacted them now. 
Harry

> On 29 Jan 2019, at 20:07, Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> Hi Harry,
> 
> I would suggest contacting APH.
> 
> Best of luck,
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> 
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>> This week I updated the firmware on my orbit Reader 20 to the latest version 
>> 01.01.57. And now there are bugs - are others using it finding this too?
>> When I want to create a capital letter, tapping dot 6 no  longer is 
>> recognised to initiate a capital letter. Nothing happens when dot 6 is 
>> pressed. 
>> When I want to write a number, tapping dots 3 4 5 6 is not recognised and 
>> nothing happens. 
>> This means that i cannot use the orbit reader now to write capital letters 
>> or numbers! Am I missing something or is there a workaround?
>> Thankd
>> Harry Bell
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Re: Braille: Orbit Reader 20 update

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Harry,

I would suggest contacting APH.

Best of luck,
Anna




> On Jan 29, 2019, at 10:31 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
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> This week I updated the firmware on my orbit Reader 20 to the latest version 
> 01.01.57. And now there are bugs - are others using it finding this too?
> When I want to create a capital letter, tapping dot 6 no  longer is 
> recognised to initiate a capital letter. Nothing happens when dot 6 is 
> pressed. 
> When I want to write a number, tapping dots 3 4 5 6 is not recognised and 
> nothing happens. 
> This means that i cannot use the orbit reader now to write capital letters or 
> numbers! Am I missing something or is there a workaround?
> Thankd
> Harry Bell
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Braille: Orbit Reader 20 update

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

This week I updated the firmware on my orbit Reader 20 to the latest version 
01.01.57. And now there are bugs - are others using it finding this too?
When I want to create a capital letter, tapping dot 6 no  longer is recognised 
to initiate a capital letter. Nothing happens when dot 6 is pressed. 
When I want to write a number, tapping dots 3 4 5 6 is not recognised and 
nothing happens. 
This means that i cannot use the orbit reader now to write capital letters or 
numbers! Am I missing something or is there a workaround?
Thankd
Harry Bell

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Re: Can’t subscribe to the orbit reader 20 mailing list

[Maria Chapman]

HI.

it took me about three goes before i got the confirm email.

Try again, and if you don’t get the confirm subscription in your in box or 
wherever your personal messages go, check your spam folder.
And, it took a day or so for me to get the confirm email.

HTH 
Maria


> On 10 Nov 2018, at 3:14 am, Lea W Langley  wrote:
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> hi Chris,
> Thank you for sending me the link again. I tried again, and I still can’t 
> subscribe so I don’t know what’s wrong.
> 
> God bless,
> Wren Langley
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> Sent from my iPhone hi all
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>>> message pertaining to how to do it. Could someone please send me the steps 
>>> again, because I can’t seem to subscribe. I have sent several messages and 
>>> have not received a confirmation.
>>> I called a pH support and she said to put subscribe in the subject but 
>>> leave the rest of the message Blake.
>>> 
>>> It seems that I remember reading that some of you put things in and then 
>>> somehow deleted them before you sent your messages. If this is correct 
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>>> 
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Re: Can’t subscribe to the orbit reader 20 mailing list

[l . d . ethier23]

It works. I already received and insert

Lyne

> Le 9 nov. 2018 à 10:39, 'christopher hallsworth' via VIPhone 
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> or20-subscr...@tech.aph.org
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>> On 9 Nov 2018, at 15:31, Lea W Langley  wrote:
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>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone hi all
>> Come up after I subscribe to the reader of 20 email list I deleted the 
>> message pertaining to how to do it. Could someone please send me the steps 
>> again, because I can’t seem to subscribe. I have sent several messages and 
>> have not received a confirmation.
>> I called a pH support and she said to put subscribe in the subject but leave 
>> the rest of the message Blake.
>> 
>> It seems that I remember reading that some of you put things in and then 
>> somehow deleted them before you sent your messages. If this is correct could 
>> you please send me how to do it again.
>> 
>> Thank you very much and God blessyou line,,
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Re: Can’t subscribe to the orbit reader 20 mailing list

[Donna]

Hi

You aren’t alone, I can’t subscribe to the orbet reader mail list. I have sent 
6 emails & haven’t received an email welcoming me to the list. I have sent 
subscribing emails with nothing in the subject line, with subscribe in the 
subject line, with subscribe in the subject line & body of the emails. And, yes 
I have checked junk/bulk mail folders..Nothing! I give up!!!

Donna
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone hi all
> Come up after I subscribe to the reader of 20 email list I deleted the 
> message pertaining to how to do it. Could someone please send me the steps 
> again, because I can’t seem to subscribe. I have sent several messages and 
> have not received a confirmation.
> I called a pH support and she said to put subscribe in the subject but leave 
> the rest of the message Blake.
> 
> It seems that I remember reading that some of you put things in and then 
> somehow deleted them before you sent your messages. If this is correct could 
> you please send me how to do it again.
> 
> Thank you very much and God blessyou line,,
> Wren Langley
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Re: Can’t subscribe to the orbit reader 20 mailing list

[Dave]

Hi Lee, my friend had to try about 3 times, before she managed to get on the 
list, so don't give up.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Lea W Langley

Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can’t subscribe to the orbit reader 20 mailing list

hi Chris,
Thank you for sending me the link again. I tried again, and I still can’t 
subscribe so I don’t know what’s wrong.


God bless,
Wren Langley

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 9, 2018, at 9:39 AM, 'christopher hallsworth' via VIPhone 
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or20-subscr...@tech.aph.org


On 9 Nov 2018, at 15:31, Lea W Langley  wrote:



Sent from my iPhone hi all
Come up after I subscribe to the reader of 20 email list I deleted the 
message pertaining to how to do it. Could someone please send me the 
steps again, because I can’t seem to subscribe. I have sent several 
messages and have not received a confirmation.
I called a pH support and she said to put subscribe in the subject but 
leave the rest of the message Blake.


It seems that I remember reading that some of you put things in and then 
somehow deleted them before you sent your messages. If this is correct 
could you please send me how to do it again.


Thank you very much and God blessyou line,,
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Re: Can’t subscribe to the orbit reader 20 mailing list

[Lea W Langley]

hi Chris,
Thank you for sending me the link again. I tried again, and I still can’t 
subscribe so I don’t know what’s wrong.

God bless,
Wren Langley

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 9, 2018, at 9:39 AM, 'christopher hallsworth' via VIPhone 
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>> On 9 Nov 2018, at 15:31, Lea W Langley  wrote:
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>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone hi all
>> Come up after I subscribe to the reader of 20 email list I deleted the 
>> message pertaining to how to do it. Could someone please send me the steps 
>> again, because I can’t seem to subscribe. I have sent several messages and 
>> have not received a confirmation.
>> I called a pH support and she said to put subscribe in the subject but leave 
>> the rest of the message Blake.
>> 
>> It seems that I remember reading that some of you put things in and then 
>> somehow deleted them before you sent your messages. If this is correct could 
>> you please send me how to do it again.
>> 
>> Thank you very much and God blessyou line,,
>> Wren Langley
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Re: Can’t subscribe to the orbit reader 20 mailing list

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> On 9 Nov 2018, at 15:31, Lea W Langley  wrote:
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> Sent from my iPhone hi all
> Come up after I subscribe to the reader of 20 email list I deleted the 
> message pertaining to how to do it. Could someone please send me the steps 
> again, because I can’t seem to subscribe. I have sent several messages and 
> have not received a confirmation.
> I called a pH support and she said to put subscribe in the subject but leave 
> the rest of the message Blake.
> 
> It seems that I remember reading that some of you put things in and then 
> somehow deleted them before you sent your messages. If this is correct could 
> you please send me how to do it again.
> 
> Thank you very much and God blessyou line,,
> Wren Langley
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Can’t subscribe to the orbit reader 20 mailing list

[Lea W Langley]

Sent from my iPhone hi all
Come up after I subscribe to the reader of 20 email list I deleted the message 
pertaining to how to do it. Could someone please send me the steps again, 
because I can’t seem to subscribe. I have sent several messages and have not 
received a confirmation.
I called a pH support and she said to put subscribe in the subject but leave 
the rest of the message Blake.

It seems that I remember reading that some of you put things in and then 
somehow deleted them before you sent your messages. If this is correct could 
you please send me how to do it again.

Thank you very much and God blessyou line,,
Wren Langley

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Re: orbit reader 20 email list

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> On 8 Nov 2018, at 14:41, Lea W Langley  wrote:
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> hi all, and thank you.
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> Can someone please send me the orbit reader 20 email Less address, because I 
> accidentally deleted it. Thank you.
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> God bless,
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orbit reader 20 email list

[Lea W Langley]

hi all, and thank you.

Can someone please send me the orbit reader 20 email Less address, because I 
accidentally deleted it. Thank you.

God bless,
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Re: FYI orbit reader 20

['christopher hallsworth' via VIPhone]

Glad to hear it. Our UK distributors RNIB have been selling it since its debut 
last month, a month today to be precise. Enjoy!

> On 8 Nov 2018, at 14:37, Lea W Langley  wrote:
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> hi all,
> Just wanted to let you know that I called APH and the orbit reader is not 
> expected in for another two weeks.
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> God bless,
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FYI orbit reader 20

[Lea W Langley]

hi all,
Just wanted to let you know that I called APH and the orbit reader is not 
expected in for another two weeks.

God bless,
Wren Langley

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orbit reader 20 back order detailswater details

[Lea W Langley]

hi all,
Thank you all for the help with ordering at the American printing House for the 
blind. They said they were having with issues and that’s why my order wouldn’t 
go through.

Anyway they told me that it would be a week to two weeks before the orbit 
reader is come in. When they come in, they will have a little sorry have the 
latest update on them or we will get it with the latest update. Once they get 
them they will ship them out picks them up and ship them out for us. That’s the 
latest anyway as far as I know you from yesterday.

Godless,
Wren Langley

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Re: Cross Posted: Orbit Reader 20 and Apple Devices?

[Donna]

I too, am interested in the response to the posed question. 

Donna

> On Sep 25, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Christine Grassman  
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> think? I have been awaiting its release for months now; APH has no 
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Cross Posted: Orbit Reader 20 and Apple Devices?

[Christine Grassman]

Hello all:
If anyone scored an Orbit Reader 20 at one of the blindness consumer 
organization conventions and is using it with a MacBook or iPhone, could you 
please comment, perhaps off-list if no one else is interested, on what you 
think? I have been awaiting its release for months now; APH has no information, 
and Orbit Research does not respond to email or phone inquiries, which frankly 
does not bode well for customer support. Thanks in advance. 
Christine

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