Re: [volt-nuts] (New to me) 3458A Trivia

2012-10-30 Thread J. L. Trantham
Per my conversation with Gary Biermann, the 4 ppm and the 2 ppm units are
the same as the 8 ppm units except they perform better.  Purely a selection
of best performers and nothing to do with a special circuit.

I don't know about Fluke.

Joe

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Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] (New to me) 3458A Trivia

I think the main thing they do is age and screen.

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:48 AM, Bill Gold  wrote:

> Speaking of the 03458-66529 reference board added to the HP 3458A by 
> Fluke (before Fluke offered the 8508A), has anyone ever seen a 
> schematic of that board or how Fluke could rate that reference at 2 
> ppm?  One person on this forum theorized that by lowering the 
> operating temperature of the LTZ1000A to around 70 degrees C, which is 
> what the LTC device specification note recommends, this might have 
> what was done to achieve the better drift specification.  It was noted 
> that HP was running the LTZ1000A at around 105 degrees C which might 
> accelerate the aging rate.  I lowered my references to around 70 C and 
> they have seemed to be a little more stable when checked against the 
> Fluke 732A DC Reference Standard.  But I never started a project to 
> follow up on this theory.  Just another project to play with when I "get a
round toit"
> Bill
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Re: [volt-nuts] ESI 2100

2012-10-30 Thread Pete Lancashire
Mark has it pretty much, toss in the keyboard switches go bad as well,
and even the assembly quality was poor.

The product was quite the low point for ESI and basically the end of
their instrument line. A friend
worked at ESI on their laser trimmer products and did not have many
good things to say about
their design follow through.

-pete

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Mark Sims  wrote:
>
> A common fault with these is the Mostek CPU/peripheral chips on the 
> motherboard.  The pins corrode away.
> Another common fault is with the video monitor.  I had one where the socket 
> on the CRT was bad... intermittent connection to the filament.  Another blew 
> a couple of transistors.  Also the pots needed to be cleaned.
> ManualsPlus.com has the service manual...  $70
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Re: [volt-nuts] (New to me) 3458A Trivia

2012-10-30 Thread Bill Gold
Speaking of the 03458-66529 reference board added to the HP 3458A by Fluke 
(before Fluke offered the 8508A), has anyone ever seen a schematic of that 
board or how Fluke could rate that reference at 2 ppm?  One person on this 
forum theorized that by lowering the operating temperature of the LTZ1000A to 
around 70 degrees C, which is what the LTC device specification note 
recommends, this might have what was done to achieve the better drift 
specification.  It was noted that HP was running the LTZ1000A at around 105 
degrees C which might accelerate the aging rate.  I lowered my references to 
around 70 C and they have seemed to be a little more stable when checked 
against the Fluke 732A DC Reference Standard.  But I never started a project to 
follow up on this theory.  Just another project to play with when I "get a 
round toit"
Bill
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