[volt-nuts] ***SPAM*** Re: Some questions to zeners (1N823-1N829)

2013-01-29 Thread Тимофеев Михаил
The ADS1282 offers outstanding specification, but not very useful in the 
wide-scale DVM application range due to low input and reference voltages.
Within a year I'm trying to develop a design of the selfcal 7.5-digits DMM with 
ADS1282 ADC. Reference (+/- 10V) is a aged 1N829A with 0.03ppm noise and 2nd 
order TC correction, downscaled to +/-2.5 V with zero TC divider.

Mickle T.


29.01.2013, 11:38, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk:
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 In message AA473A4936944A1199FC6F4C9C5D9A1A@laptop, Andreas Jahn writes:

 Amazing!

 Recently I came across a very interesting ADC from TI, designed for
 use with geophones: ADS1282

 It might be interesting for volt-nuttery:  It samples 2 bits at
 4MHz, which are then downsampled to 31 bits at 4kHz or less.  For
 this reason it is incredibly linear and has very good S/N.

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[volt-nuts] 7081 AC buffer *again*

2013-01-29 Thread David C. Partridge
I've returned to the 7081 that was giving me troubles in the AC buffer circuit.

Probing the output test point (TP 705) I'm seeing about 100mV pp (approx) at 
about 10MHz.  This would likely explain the strange results I was getting last 
year.  However I'm puzzled as to where it can be coming from!!!  Any 
suggestions gratefully received.

Regards,
David Partridge

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Re: [volt-nuts] ***SPAM*** Re: Some questions to zeners (1N823-1N829)

2013-01-29 Thread Andy Bardagjy
The ADS1282 is a really cool part! After studying the ADS1282
datasheet is appears that *at best* it can achieve 130dB SNR which, by
my calculations is effectively 21.3 bits - by the formula
SNR=(6.02N+1.786)dB.

This got me thinking, are there any higher performing 24 bit ADCs we
should look at for our nuttery. One that I found is the Linear
LTC2440 (and others in the family). It claims, at its highest
resolution, 24.6 effective bits. That said, I am having trouble
comparing SNR directly. I need to read more to understand how to
convert its noise spec - 200nV RMS noise - to a SNR dB figure.

Andy Bardagjy
bardagjy.com


On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:43 AM, Тимофеев Михаил timk...@yandex.ru wrote:
 The ADS1282 offers outstanding specification, but not very useful in the 
 wide-scale DVM application range due to low input and reference voltages.
 Within a year I'm trying to develop a design of the selfcal 7.5-digits DMM 
 with ADS1282 ADC. Reference (+/- 10V) is a aged 1N829A with 0.03ppm noise and 
 2nd order TC correction, downscaled to +/-2.5 V with zero TC divider.

 Mickle T.


 29.01.2013, 11:38, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk:
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
 In message AA473A4936944A1199FC6F4C9C5D9A1A@laptop, Andreas Jahn writes:

 Amazing!

 Recently I came across a very interesting ADC from TI, designed for
 use with geophones: ADS1282

 It might be interesting for volt-nuttery:  It samples 2 bits at
 4MHz, which are then downsampled to 31 bits at 4kHz or less.  For
 this reason it is incredibly linear and has very good S/N.

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Re: [volt-nuts] Comparing ADS1282 (31 bit) and AD7190 (24 bit)

2013-01-29 Thread beale
  ---Original Message---
  From: Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk
  ...a very interesting ADC from TI, designed for use with geophones: ADS1282

31 bits is impressive. With the +/-2.5 V reference I gather the maximum input 
range in differential mode is Vref/2 or +/- 1.25 V. The Voffset drift is 0.02 
uV/C typical and the INL is 0.5 ppm typical, but 4 ppm max.  For 
comparison, the 24-bit Analog Devices AD7190 claims typical Voffset = 0.1 uV/C, 
or 0.005 uV/C in chop mode, and INL = 1 ppm typ. and 5 ppm max, with a maximum 
differential input voltage of +/-5 V. So the AD7190 has 2x worse INL (typ.), 
but with a 4x larger input voltage range, the INL is 2x better (typical) and 
almost 4x better (max) when measured in microvolts. 

For quantity 1 purchase, the AD7190 is $11 (Newark/Element14) and the ADS1282 
is $62 (Arrow). For $62, you can get a complete eval board for the AD7190 which 
works as a 4-channel input standalone USB-powered voltmeter (although the eval 
board's ADR421 2.5V reference is not volt-nut quality.)  By the way, the 7190 
chip provides for two selectable, independent differential Vref inputs, which 
are separate from the two differential or four pseudo-differential signal 
inputs.
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Re: [volt-nuts] 7081 AC buffer *again*

2013-01-29 Thread J. L. Trantham
Is it possible that it is, somehow, 'picking up interference' from your
'house standard'?  How close to 10.000 000 000 MHz is it?

100 mV P-P is fairly substantial.  Otherwise, is it oscillating?

Good luck.

Joe

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Behalf Of David C. Partridge
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To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
Subject: [volt-nuts] 7081 AC buffer *again*

I've returned to the 7081 that was giving me troubles in the AC buffer
circuit.

Probing the output test point (TP 705) I'm seeing about 100mV pp (approx) at
about 10MHz.  This would likely explain the strange results I was getting
last year.  However I'm puzzled as to where it can be coming from!!!  Any
suggestions gratefully received.

Regards,
David Partridge

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