Re: [volt-nuts] *WAY* too expensive for even Keysight to redesign

2015-05-15 Thread John Phillips
you could write your own front end using the IEEE 488 interface and make it
what ever you want.
excel can give you the graphic you are talking about and you have a lot
more control over what you get than any canned fronted could do.

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:38 PM, Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I think most of the top companies were founded by scientists and engineers
 and because of their roots in the scientific community they were very
 customer driven, but it seems recently most of the test and measurement
 companies have become stock-holder driven as the management with a
 background in science retire. In addition many of these large companies buy
 up the small start-ups from the Scientist and engineers that created them
 as an alternative to in house RD. Once purchased they are quickly
 transisioned to the stock-holder driven model. Sadly in some cases I think
 the philosophy is to buy all the competitors and control the market to the
 point that they don't need to provide the same level of products, support,
 and service we enjoyed in the past since there are few alternatives.  In
 this paradigm shift I think Keysight is better then most. I keep hoping
 they design a new meter to replace the 3458A or at least redesign the
 digital portion with a more freindly user interface,  per
  haps a menu driven color touch screen and the ability to stored and
 display data graphically. Who knows they may have something in the works.

 Thomas Knox



  From: alan.ambr...@anagram.net
  To: volt-nuts@febo.com
  Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 16:36:38 +
  Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] *WAY* too expensive for even Keysight to
 redesign
 
  Hi,
 
 
   Fluke has ... replaced the vacuum display with an LCD.
 
 
 
  I'm starting to worry about the great US test gear manufacturers :)
 
 
 
  Alan
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Re: [volt-nuts] *WAY* too expensive for even Keysight to, redesign

2015-05-15 Thread Dan Kemppainen


On 5/15/2015 12:00 PM, volt-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote:

In this paradigm shift I think Keysight is better then most.


In my experience Agilent/Keysight has been very good. Had a signal 
generator long out of warranty, develop a problem with a front panel 
encoder. When calling for a replacement part they asked about why I 
needed the part...


To make a long story short I ended up sending the signal generator in 
for service work and new NIST calibration, all free of charge. For 
something 7 years out of warranty, I was very pleased. Been buying a lot 
of Agilent/Keysight since then.


Not saying one should expect this sort of service, but in at least one 
case they offered it!


Dan



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[volt-nuts] How accurate is a fluke after 9 years

2015-05-15 Thread Electronics and Books via volt-nuts
My Fluke 5700A calibrator was calibrated today after 9 years. It displays how 
much it deviated from the last calibration. For the both voltage references i 
got 0.0 ppm and for the internal 10k resistor -1.7 ppm.
Only the amplifier for the 11-22 volt range drifted 1700 ppm for it depends on 
a voltage divider composed of two normal metalfilm resistors. These will be 
replaced by 2 vishay 0.01% resistors which are hopefully more stable.

Regards

Frans



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Re: [volt-nuts] How accurate is a fluke after 9 years

2015-05-15 Thread Todd Micallef
Frans,

Do you perform an in-house calibration with a 10V reference and 1 ohm  10k 
resistors? I have been studying the recommended calibration intervals of 
Fluke's 57xx series calibrators and I wonder how well the unit maintains its 
stability over long intervals between trips to a cal lab.

Also, if you don't mind, would you give a ballpark figure for the cost of cal 
from your cal lab?

Todd

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 On May 15, 2015, at 14:50, Electronics and Books via volt-nuts 
 volt-nuts@febo.com wrote:
 
 My Fluke 5700A calibrator was calibrated today after 9 years. It displays how 
 much it deviated from the last calibration. For the both voltage references i 
 got 0.0 ppm and for the internal 10k resistor -1.7 ppm.
 Only the amplifier for the 11-22 volt range drifted 1700 ppm for it depends 
 on a voltage divider composed of two normal metalfilm resistors. These will 
 be replaced by 2 vishay 0.01% resistors which are hopefully more stable.
 
 Regards
 
 Frans
 
 
 
 Discere ne cesses
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Re: [volt-nuts] How accurate is a fluke after 9 years

2015-05-15 Thread Tom Knox
The Fluke 5700A and 5720A as well as the Wavetek 4808 and 4800A are pretty 
amazing I have seen several that appear to have been abused for years without a 
Cal and are still spot on. Same with many of the HP and Agilent 3458A's.
It seems I see more broken then out of spec.
Thomas Knox



 From: tmical...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, 15 May 2015 15:17:19 -0400
 To: i...@electronicsandbooks.com; electronicsandbo...@yahoo.com; 
 volt-nuts@febo.com
 Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] How accurate is a fluke after 9 years
 
 Frans,
 
 Do you perform an in-house calibration with a 10V reference and 1 ohm  10k 
 resistors? I have been studying the recommended calibration intervals of 
 Fluke's 57xx series calibrators and I wonder how well the unit maintains its 
 stability over long intervals between trips to a cal lab.
 
 Also, if you don't mind, would you give a ballpark figure for the cost of cal 
 from your cal lab?
 
 Todd
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
  On May 15, 2015, at 14:50, Electronics and Books via volt-nuts 
  volt-nuts@febo.com wrote:
  
  My Fluke 5700A calibrator was calibrated today after 9 years. It displays 
  how much it deviated from the last calibration. For the both voltage 
  references i got 0.0 ppm and for the internal 10k resistor -1.7 ppm.
  Only the amplifier for the 11-22 volt range drifted 1700 ppm for it depends 
  on a voltage divider composed of two normal metalfilm resistors. These will 
  be replaced by 2 vishay 0.01% resistors which are hopefully more stable.
  
  Regards
  
  Frans
  
  
  
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