Re: [volt-nuts] PCB Artist

2016-12-13 Thread Randy Evans
KiCad looks very good and I downloaded it to try it out.  However, does
anyone have a good, low-cost PCB fab house to recommend?  I am designing a
voltage reference programmable fro 0 to 10 volts with a LTZ1000 reference
and settabiltiy of 0.1ppm and I need a PCB fabbed.

Thanks,

Randy Evans AE6YG

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 5:22 AM, Herbert Poetzl 
wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 04:39:36PM -0800, Randy Evans wrote:
> > Does anyone have experience with PCBArtist?
>
> Sorry, no PCBArtist experience here.
>
> > It looks pretty good for 2-layer board up to 60
> > in^2 for $33 but I have no experience with it.
>
> > I was looking at Eagle PCB but it's pretty expensive
> > for a 4-layer capability version.
>
> A litte apples and oranges here :)
>
> The Eagle Light version can be used for free for
> non-profit purposes and works for up to 4x3.2inch
> with two layers.
>
> If you don't have any personal preference, then
> KiCad is definitely the way to go. It has improved
> dramatically since it got the CERN treatment and
> doesn't cost a cent regardless of size and layers.
>
> Best,
> Herbert
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Randy Evans AE6YG
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Re: [volt-nuts] PCBArtist

2016-12-13 Thread Charles Steinmetz

Dan wrote:


I haven't run PCBArtist, however it supports outputting Gerbers, which
is nice. You are not tied to a particular board house.


Well, the web site says you can get Gerbers after your first order from 
their board house (same as ExpressPCB).


They also claim to have 500,000 components in their library, and you can 
search the library online.  I tried about 50 parts, some very common, 
and got only 2 hits.  I was astounded.


NOTE: I have not seen or tried PCBArtist, and have no opinion on its 
quality or utility.


Best regards,

Charles


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Re: [volt-nuts] volt-nuts Digest, Vol 88, Issue 4

2016-12-13 Thread Dan Kemppainen

On 12/13/2016 12:00 PM, volt-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote:

If you don't have any personal preference, then
KiCad is definitely the way to go. It has improved
dramatically since it got the CERN treatment and
doesn't cost a cent regardless of size and layers.



I haven't run PCBArtist, however it supports outputting Gerbers, which 
is nice. You are not tied to a particular board house.


I've sort of been forced to play with KiCAD for a project, and can't 
stand the user interface. I've been running eagle for a long time, that 
probably biases me towards that. Granted, eagle does have a sharp 
learning curve also, but KiCAD just hurts to use.


Keep in mind I'm referencing this to other CAD programs like AutoCAD, 
PTC Creo, ViaCAD and Eagle. KiCAD just feels clunky, even worse than 
LibreCAD.


This really is frustrating to me, because I really like the idea FOSS 
software, but lack of support and clunky UI make it hard to adopt for 
anything but one off hobby projects.


Anyway, my $.02. If anyone has any advise on how to get up to speed on 
KiCAD, I'd be interesting in hearing it!



Dan



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Re: [volt-nuts] PCB Artist

2016-12-13 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 04:39:36PM -0800, Randy Evans wrote:
> Does anyone have experience with PCBArtist?  

Sorry, no PCBArtist experience here.

> It looks pretty good for 2-layer board up to 60 
> in^2 for $33 but I have no experience with it.  

> I was looking at Eagle PCB but it's pretty expensive 
> for a 4-layer capability version.

A litte apples and oranges here :)

The Eagle Light version can be used for free for
non-profit purposes and works for up to 4x3.2inch 
with two layers.

If you don't have any personal preference, then
KiCad is definitely the way to go. It has improved
dramatically since it got the CERN treatment and
doesn't cost a cent regardless of size and layers.

Best,
Herbert

> Thanks,

> Randy Evans AE6YG
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