Re: The Bucky-Cal LENR Matrix

2004-11-07 Thread FZNIDARSIC
In a message dated 11/7/2004 1:51:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Buckyballs (fullerenes or C-60) are a potential matrix for LENR, but C-60 is not superconductive by itself - should that factor be deemed to be important. 


Palladium adsorbs atomic hydrogen.

Buckyballs adsorb molecular hydrogen.

I big difference. Atomic hydrogen would react with carbon.

I do not believe that molecular hydrogen is involved in the reaction.

Frank Z


ICCF11 Results

2004-11-07 Thread Terry Blanton
Jed  Ed,
ICCF10 was phenomenal in that working demonstrations of LENR-CANR cells 
were demonstrated.  Was there anything as exciting at ICCF11?



Re: A different lead to OU

2004-11-07 Thread Mark Goldes
Jones,
RayOVac said nothing about the chemistry of their cells.  But, at the time, 
that was pretty much open book material I believe.

Sorry I cannot be of more help.
Mark
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Subject: Re: A different lead to OU
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 11:40:13 -0800
Mark,
Thanks for the information. I had a feeling that if there
was anything to Newman's claim that you would have been
there long ago. I take it that you saw zero credibility in
his claims?
But actually, the fact that he was using alkaline batteries
is some of his early work might also bolster the suggestion
that IF he had any hint of OU in that early work - that
electronium might have played a role. This is because
alkaline cells had some lead content before there was a big
push to get rid of it. Did RayOVac give any hint of the
makeup of their cells? Of course mercury, cadmium and zinc
might also end up being electronium concentrators as well,
...and of course, this line of reasoning which implicates
lead as the source of any OU (which was somewhat hastily put
together this morning) may be totally in error. That is the
most likely choice. Still, it would be very interesting to
compare lead capacitance in two tank circuits - one where
the lead was definitely not derived from U decay and the
other where the lead definitely was a product of U decay -
That would be a test, where if there was no difference in
the two... at least it would cause this observer at least to
quell his enthusiasm for finding electronium in the most
likely place - which then might further indicate that the
particle itself is imaginary.
Matter of fact... if it there were some stronger evidence
against it being real, I would get a lot sounder sleep these
days
Jones




RE: The Bucky-Cal LENR Matrix

2004-11-07 Thread Mark Goldes
Jones, VO,
C60 can be a superconductor -- even at room temperature if prepared in 
accord with methods developed by Peter (Guomeng) Zhao, and an associate, 
described in Patent Application WO  2004/015786 A2 and the U.S. parallel.

Mark
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Subject: The Bucky-Cal LENR Matrix
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 10:49:34 -0800
or...  What happens when the C-60 fullerene inter-calcates... and absorbs 
D2?

Mention has been made of some surprising correlations between high 
temperature superconductivity and cold fusion. More on that later, but 
assuming that there is some overlap, what is the best proton conductive 
active membrane to use if one wishes to try to perform really cold fusion 
(i.e. minus 154 F)?

The matrix in which LENR reactions can occur may end up being the 
deciding factor as to whether the technology can be commercialized. 
Consequently every promising avenue should be pursued, and many materials 
have been mentioned.

Buckyballs (fullerenes or C-60) are a potential matrix for LENR, but C-60 
is not superconductive by itself - should that factor be deemed to be 
important.

Titanium or nickel might work, but some questions have arisen about their 
ability to absorb D2 at high ratios and still retain structural integrity 
at low temperatures, and there is no real evidence that either hydride is 
superconductive at any temperature, unlike Pd.

Both Pd and palladium hydrides are superconductive at low temperature. Here 
is a this known factoid, should CF ever make it to trivial pursuit status 
- Laufer's Theory of superconductivity in palladium-noble-metal hydrides 
actually preceded PF by three years ! Also it should be noted that *high 
internal effective pressure* has the same entropy reducing properties as 
cold temperature, but with Pd the loading ration must get to 1:1 before 
this becomes a factor.

It is also relevant to note these other inter-related factoids, which are 
surrounding the four seemingly unrelated technologies: LENR, HTSC, 
bucky-balls, and calcium - and which might enter into the quest for a 
better matrix for LENR - other than the expensive and rare palladium, and 
assuming that neither Ti nor Ni perform well at cryogenic temps:

1) One of the best high-temperature (HTSC) materials yet found is (BISCO) 
which contains calcium. It becomes superconductive near the range in which 
a really cold CF cell is anticipated to be run.

2) Calcium in the periodic table is THE element with the highest atomic 
mass in which p=n  ...  which is to say that the number of protons in the 
nucleus is perfectly balanced by the number of neutrons. See 5) below.

3) In 1992, Superconductivity was discovered in calcium-doped C60
by Kortan, et al. at low temperature.  The Ca metal atoms in a ratio of 
about 4-1(or more) diffuse into tetrahedral interstitial sites of the C60 
bucky ball but not into the central cavity, which could still accommodate 
several D2 molecules.

4) Superconductivity arising between pairs of electrons (referred to as 
Cooper pairs) is fairly well-know; but less well known is that 
superconductivity is also realized in atomic nuclei, where a strong 
correlation analogous to Cooper pairing arises. Are the two factors 
interconnected (i.e. does nucleon superconductivity presage Cooper pairing? 
And if so, is item 2) relevant to why calcium seems to be the best choice 
for getting HTSC into C-60 ?

5) About 10 years ago two enigmatic engineers (Cooley and Bennett ) 
proposed to use fullerenes as a CF matrix. They tried to raise capital, 
apparently with little success. Then the company seems to have disappeared 
from the horizon (or moved to Oregon) without much in the way of reported 
progress. The former web site seems to have been taken over by Chinese 
video-gamers. Probably a bad sign, but did they even know about the 
connection to HTSC? If they did not, that could have been their basis for 
their problem. C-60 could be an ideal matrix BUT only if it can be made 
superconductive.

Don't be surprised if Mark Goldes knows the answer
6) C-60 is commercially available, and will always be cheap and available 
compared to Pd... plus, inter-calcating is relatively simple.

7) As an alternative to C-60, does an Ultraconductor (TM) have any 
potential to absorb D2, or can C-60 be incorporated into an  Ultraconductor 
(TM) without destroying its properties ?

The unknown questions are:
1) will the inter-calcated C-60 material still absorb D2?
2) will the loaded and inter-calcated C-60 membrane be superconductive at 
minus 154 F and most of all, will it be structurally sound ?

3) Of course, overriding this whole inquiry, is HTSC absolutely necessary 
in the active area ?

Jones



Re: The Bucky-Cal LENR Matrix

2004-11-07 Thread FZNIDARSIC
In a message dated 11/7/2004 7:50:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

3) Of course, overriding this whole inquiry, is HTSC absolutely necessary 
in the active area ?

Jones



I have ideas on this but I will not reveal them. I will reveal, however, of what good is cryogenic cold fusion...nuclear waste reduction.

Frank Z