Re: OT: The will of God

2005-03-22 Thread Merlyn
Of course I'm being nit-picky Stephen,
I believe the bible to be a good book, and to have
some excellent lessons for our society, but I do not
believe it to be the revealed word of God as you
obviously do.

The main point is that the bible you and I read is not
only a translation of a translation, but the original
written text had been passed by oral tradition for
hundreds, if not thousands, of years.

Fundamentalists always cite that God influenced those
keepers of knowledge so that the translation is just
as accurate as the original, but I have problems
believing that.  History abounds with examples of men
misinterpreting scripture to justify heinous acts.

--- Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Merlyn wrote:
 As for prophecy, that's all in the interpretation,
   
 
 Oh, dear, you're being much too nit-picky here.
 
 Check out the book of Isaiah, which, one could
 argue, is the most 
 important OT book (that's Old Testament, not
 Off-Topic) for most 
 liturgical Christians.
 
 But first, note well that scholars and Christians
 agree that Isaiah 
 lived and died a number of decades _before_ the
 Exile.  OK so far?
 
 Now let's look at Isaiah 45:1 (NRSV):
 
   Thus says the Lord to his anointed, to Cyrus,
 whose right hand I have 
 grasped to subdue nations before him and strip kings
 of their robes, to 
 open doors before him -- 
 
 This verse NAMES CYRUS, specifically, and designates
 him the instrument 
 to be used in ending the Exile.  Cyrus was born
 perhaps 150 years after 
 Isaiah died.  No way this was just a lucky guess!! 
 And it's not open to 
 much interpretation.
 
 So, if we accept that the book of Isaiah was written
 by Isaiah (which, 
 surely, all those who accept the entire Bible as
 being 100% divinely 
 inspired and accurately transmitted and properly
 attributed must agree 
 is the case), this seems to prove, in one easy step,
 the miraculous 
 nature of Biblical prophecy.  And whatever it is,
 it's certainly not 
 just a matter of interpretation!
 
 Of course, the more skeptical among us might feel
 this example could be 
 taken to indicate that parts of Isaiah were not
 correctly attributed, 
 but such an absurd and heretical viewpoint can
 surely be safely 
 dismissed.  After all, if we accept that parts of
 Isaiah were 
 mis-attributed and anachronistic, then we might have
 to consider that 
 some other parts of the Bible could have been
 similarly mis-dated, which 
 could affect the interpretation of other examples of
 highly inspired 
 prophecy, perhaps even some in the New Testament
 itself...
 
 If I didn't think the Bible was a truly fine text I
 would not have read 
 it a second time.  But I make no attempt to explain
 away the 
 anachronisms, peculiarities (e.g., the incident of
 Melchizedek), 
 4-legged insects, or strange fate(s) of Judas.
 


Merlyn
Magickal Engineer and Technical Metaphysicist



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5 tesla sphere / was RE: Budding Scientist 8^)

2005-03-22 Thread Keith Nagel

Scientist?

That ape is cut from Presidential timber, my friend.

You write:
Occasionally one runs across something that MUST be shared.

When I read this, what came to mind was something more like -

http://mag-net.ee.umist.ac.uk/reports/P14/p14_2.html

A sweet piece of magnet engineering there, huh?

K.

-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 12:43 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Budding Scientist 8^)


Occasionally one runs across something that MUST be shared.  Curiosity: an
essential ingrediant for science.  See:

  http://home.pacbell.net/dianna_do/monkeysniff.htm

Regards,

Horace Heffner  





Fusion is easy

2005-03-22 Thread Jones Beene



A message on another forum got me to thinking about a possible cross-over 
regime between LENR, particularly Mizuno-type glow discharge,and the 
seemingly unrelated IEC warm fusion (Farnsworth Fusor).

Check out this"Homemade Amateur Nuclear Fusion Reactor" :
http://www.brian-mcdermott.com/fusion_is_easy.htm

Jon Rosenstiel's Fusor (shown here): This small fusor currently holds the 
amateur record with a fusion output of 10^7 (100 million") fusion 
reactionsper second. This is rock-solid robust fusion, but there is little 
scale-up potential for the Fusor (in contrast to CF) because the tiny central 
"convergence reaction zone" gets less-efficient, the larger it is.

Although this reaction rateof 10^7 is quite impressive in terms of 
neutrons, especially compared to LENR reactions, it is actually farther from 
energy breakeven than is CF in terms of P-in to P-out, but it does have 
*striking QM implications,* and may point the way towardsan enhancement 
technique for hybrid-LENR (unfortunately in a relatively complicated 
experiment.) 

Many observers nowadays (R. Mills in particular) are trying to re-write 
Quantum Mechanics in keeping with new discoveries. I will leave that subject of 
the experts, but for the purposes of this idea, let us assumethat there is 
a QM "probability distribution curve"for tunneling fusion, which curve can 
be enhanced merely by proximity to ongoing reactions of the same type. 

This is an off-shoot of quantum entanglement, which is a proven phenomenon, 
to some degree. There are Russian experiments which claim this kind of 
enhancement, and some older work in CF also claims to benefit this (Nelson Ying) 
but his work was flawed from the start and never reproduced. Not surprising, in 
retrospect.

I think the reasonthat the Ying experimentwas not reproduced is 
clear now. He was thinking, and wrongly asserting, that "any kind" of external 
gamma source would raise the QM probability for CF, a glaring error ! ...which 
error was made all the more unfortunate, because he may have been 'half-right' 
insofar as the single issue of entanglement is concerned. BUT because he tried 
to 'cut corners' with the specific way in which entanglement is applied, he 
ended up 'poisoning' what would have been a great underlying idea with a 
badly-conceived implementation. 

The clear consequence of the QM entanglement-theory is that the correlation 
is very specific as to cross-identity, and is not related to simply any gamma 
emission, per se. There is also the related A-B effect, which might have some 
application to cold fusion, in that the magnetic vector potential of *specific* 
gamma radiation, may end up being the transfer medium for entanglement (in the 
broadest sense). I am trying to find some online references for just the 
'entanglement part' of the equation - from other related fields, but for now 
-this is just a rough hypothesis.

Here is a college physics lecture by Ludwik Kowalski which offers some 
background concerning QM probability and tunneling
http://blake.montclair.edu/~kowalskil/cf/40lecture.html
He stops short of the treatment ofQuantum entanglement, which is a 
quantum mechanical phenomenon in which the quantum states of two or more 
proximate objects must be described with mutual reference to each other, even 
though the individual objects may be spatially separated. 

This leads to "strange" correlations between observable physical properties 
of the systems. For example, it is possible to prepare two particles in a single 
quantum state such that when one is observed to be spin-up, the other one will 
always be observed to be spin-down - and vice versa. This despite the fact that 
it is impossible to predict, using quantum mechanics, which set of measurements 
will be observed. The A-B (orAharonov-Bohm) effect is connected to 
entanglement and violation of Bell Inequality and one suspects that the modality 
is the magnetic vector potential of whatever radiation is present.

Using that as a jumping-off point, (and it is admittedly a big leap) there 
is this anecdotal evidence that the QM probability in cold fusion is enhanced by 
proximity to ongoing reactions of the same type, because of quantum 
entanglement. IOW in looking at reaction rates, there areclassical and QM 
probability distribution curves- which do vary significantly - by many 
orders of magnitude. But then there is also this enhanced QM probability curve 
based upon proximity to ongoing reactions of the same kind, which might be 
orders of magnitude higher yet.

IF this were true, then a combined Fusor/LENR device might possess enough 
**synergy** (derived from QM entanglement)to push it overthe top, in 
terms of energy breakeven.

Actually if you can get any small device to produce 10^11 neutrons per 
second (about 10,000 times more than the Fusor mentioned above but 
stillless thannet breakeven) then voila, you have essentially 
created the "enabling technology" for the small subcritical natural 

Re: Budding Scientist 8^)

2005-03-22 Thread Steven Krivit
True empirical observations.
I guess it could have been worse..there are other senses he could have used. ;)
At 08:42 PM 3/21/2005 -0900, you wrote:
Occasionally one runs across something that MUST be shared.  Curiosity: an
essential ingrediant for science.  See:
  http://home.pacbell.net/dianna_do/monkeysniff.htm
Regards,
Horace Heffner



Re: Budding Scientist 8^)

2005-03-22 Thread Horace Heffner
At 11:11 AM 3/22/5, Steven Krivit wrote:
True empirical observations.
I guess it could have been worse..there are other senses he could have used. ;)

For sure!  8^)  Now, if only he were a trained chemist he would have known
to hold the sample with the right hand and waft the aroma towards the
nostrils with the left hand.

Regards,

Horace Heffner  




Oil Crash

2005-03-22 Thread Terry Blanton
This article says that the Canadian Sands won't save us because you can't squeeze it out fast enough:

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[OT] Tools for the Development of Humanity

2005-03-22 Thread Terry Blanton
I received an invitation to the following.  I post it
so that you might regard the sponsors list to the
right:

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Re: Oil Crash

2005-03-22 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to  Edmund Storms's message of Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:39:21
-0700:
Hi,
I wonder why the article ignores the fact that deuterium is the only 
energy source that is in sufficient amount with a sufficiently high 
energy density? What does it take to make this fact part of government 
policy?  Even the hot fusion program, as poor a method as it is, 
receives little support and, as we know, cold fusion is actively 
ignored. This is rather like people on a sinking ship ignoring the life 
boat because it is not painted with their favorite color.
[snip]
Actually the crew is in the hold boring holes in the hull, and the
passengers are paying them to do it, while they stand around and
watch.

Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

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