Re: global warming: spin or not spin?
Horace is absolutely right here, what greenhouse gases block, just like glass panes do in actual greenhouses, is not reflected radiation (mostly visible wavelengths, to which they are just as transparent on their way up -reflected- than on the way down -incident-) but thermal radiation (infra red, emitted including at night when there is no incident radiation to reflect). Steve I am afraid your description needs revising. Michel - Original Message - From: Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:32 AM Subject: Re: global warming: spin or not spin? On Mar 1, 2006, at 3:51 PM, Steven Krivit wrote: It was my understanding that greenhouse gases are only those which have the particular characteristic of absorbing the wavelengths of reflected radiation. It is not the absorption of *reflected* radiation that is key. It is the absorption of infra-red radiation that is key. H2O and CO2 both are absorbers of infra-red radiation, both coming directly from the sun, and that which results from black-body radiation from the heated Earth surface and atmosphere. That black-body radiation is not reflected, it is merely the byproduct of hot molecules. O2 and N2 are not absorbers of infra-red, which makes both the H2O and CO2 concentrations critical. It was told to me that only specific gasses, not water vapor, have this characteristic. Comments? Disagreements? The role of H2O in the greenhouse effect, especially a runaway greenhouse effect, is profound. The Wiki article states: Water vapor (H2O) causes about 60% of Earth's naturally-occurring greenhouse effect. Other gases influencing the effect include carbon dioxide (CO2) (about 26%), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O) and ozone (O3) (about 8%). Collectively, these gases are known as greenhouse gases. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect As I noted earlier, the DOE simply ducks the atmospheric water issue on its Global Warming Potentials page by saying:Short-lived gases such as water vapor, carbon monoxide, tropospheric ozone, and other ambient air pollutants (e.g., nitrogen oxide, and non methane volatile organic compounds), and tropospheric aerosols (e.g., sulfur dioxide products and black carbon), however, are present in very different quantities spatially around the world, and consequently it is difficult to quantify their global radiative forcing impacts. GWP values are generally not attributed to these gases that are short- lived and spatially heterogeneous in the atmosphere.11 As I have emphasized many times, the key to this issue is at *what altitude* the water vapor is found. The amount of water vapor at high altitudes will increase at a horrific and generally unappreciated rate as sea temperature rises. See: http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/news/releases/2002/02_60AR.html which states: Rabbette analyzed clear-sky data above the tropical Pacific from March 2000 to July 2001. She determined that water vapor above 5 kilometers (3 miles) altitude in the atmosphere contributes significantly to the runaway greenhouse signature. She found that at 9 kilometers (5.6 miles) above the Pacific warm pool, the relative humidity in the atmosphere can be greater than 70 percent - more than three times the normal range. In nearby regions of the Pacific where the sea surface temperature is just a few degrees cooler, the atmospheric relative humidity is only 20 percent. These drier regions of the neighboring atmosphere may contribute to stabilizing the local runaway greenhouse effect, Rabbette said. Additionally, methane is lighter than air. As far as I know, little has been made of this fact. In the atmosphere, methane ultimately oxidizes to form CO2 and water vapor. Methane released directly into the air can thus be assumed to oxidize mostly at a high altitude. The coming arctic methane release will have a significant effect in the upper atmosphere due to methane's atmospheric life of 12 years. (For methane life see Table G1 in http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/1605/gg02rpt/pdf/appendixg.pdf). A high moisture content at low altitudes does increase infra-red absorption, but also typically results in clouds which reflect light above that altitude, thus increasing Earth's albedo, thus reducing the energy which is absorbed by the dense lower atmosphere and by the surface. Water at high altitude absorbs infra-red radiation before it can be relected from the clouds, and absorbs infra-red radiation reflected from both the clouds and from the surface of the earth, as well as black body radiation from the surface and the lower atmosphere. This is what I wrote in The Rebirth of Cold Fusion: The problem of global warming predominantly results from the combustion of fossil fuels. According to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, fossil fuels burned to run cars and
Negative Energy
was Gravity, A Function of Mass/Energy-Charge/Magnetism Tensile strain is one manifestation of negative energy. Another illustration is provided by the Stirling Engine. Most laymen familiar with engines such as the steam and internal combustion variety imagine that heat is needed to power an engine and would laugh at the idea of running an engine using blocks of ice for fuel. Yet with a Stirling engine one can do just that. Store enough ice in the old fashioned type of ice house during winter and one could run a Stirling Engine all summer. I am not suggesting this as a practical proposition but merely as an interesting example of negative energy, an analogy of tensile strain. Compressive strain is equivalent to heat. Tensile strain is equivalent to cold. Both heat and cold are sources of energy. Both heat and cold are deviations from ambient. It is the deviation that is important, not its sign. Another example, of course, is the earliest steam engine where negative, not positive, pressure was the internal agent of mechanical action. Frank Grimer
Re: Sprain Mag Motor
I found the following KeelyNet reference to Sprain's motor. You will notice that he is referred to as Paul Harry Sprain, not Harry Paul Sprain as in the Wiki article and the patent. Sprain seems to be a remarkably uncommon name. It is probably a corruption of Strain. 8-) http://www.freshpatents.com/Apparatus-and-process-for- generating-energy-dt20060209ptan20060028080.php 02/28/06 - Overunity magnet motor claim This is the first OVERUNITY magnet motor released to the public! It produces more mechanical power than needed electrical input power for the electromagnet. It is the video from Mr. Paul Harry Sprain. I had signed NDA for it and now he has released it to the world! It is simular to the Takahaski design and Mr. Sprain has got a patent for it. The electromagnet at the end of the spiral stator switches for just a few Mikroseconds the field to zero flux density, so the rotor can escape the stator fields. For the rest of the rotation circle the rotor is purely accelerated into the track. All magnets are in attraction mode, stator and rotor magnets ! This is so far the best magnet motor shown. Mr. Sprain wrote: I have been working on this project for 4 years. I have spent a little under a million dollars. I have a patent and a working prototype (see attached photos). The rotational force is measured using a torque sensor that allows me to put it under load just like a real generat! or. I have measured the energy going into the electromagnet voltage and current. It comes from a digital power supply so there is no guessing as to what is being used. I'm using a super perm alloy core for the electromagnet. A digital encoder controls the firing of the electromagnet. My results: out-.6 Nm at 10 radian/sec =6W in-19.8v @ 1.9A = 37.62W each pulse is .028ms = 1.05 W per pulse 3 pulses per/sec = 3.1W total input. Please see patent 6,954,019. Some additional info about this remarkable claim. For more details on the Takahashi magnetic spiral motor. There is also a photo and diagram accompanying the above text at: http://www.keelynet.com/ Frank
National Geographic
There was a fairly interesting general review of Mega lightning on the National Geographic channel last night. Very few specifics, lots of generalities. The one thing I did glean is that there is a lot of power being produced in the atmosphere. Is anyone doing any work on harnessing lightning these days? It seems like we live in the middle of a giant generator, when you think of it. I've always looked at natural geological activity as a possible source for alternative energy, but the program has me musing on natural aerial activity as a source of energy. Mike Wood, Cincinnati
Re: Sprain Mag Motor
It would appear that the Achilles heel of magnetic motors in general is that they are using up energy stored in the magnets in the form of negative entropy - in other words in the parallel orientation of the basic units of magnetism, whatever these may be. For people who have a naturally pessimistic outlook on life this is an attractive argument. It allows magnetic motors to be dismissed together with perpetual motion machines and cold fusion, etc. Since the majority of attempts to make a magnetic engine seem to have run into the sand such pessimists can assert that history is on their side. It is claimed that the Sprain Magnetic Motor, ... is very similar to the Takahashi motor, but in Paul Sprain´s motor he is just using all magnets in attraction mode, so they never discharge. I believe that I can see a reasonable argument to support this claim based on the existence of negative energy (see Negative Energy thread). Consider the mode of operation of The Newcomen Steam Engine. http://www.technology.niagarac.on.ca/staff/mcsele/newcomen.htm A laymen might describe it as a vacuum engine and think that the vacuum pulls the piston down into the cylinder. Anyone with an elementary knowledge of physics, however, would realise that the piston is pushed down by atmospheric pressure. Though the Newcomen and the Watt engine both use steam, their modes of operation are antithetical. Now the active agent in the Newcomen Engine is the pressure of the atmosphere and this pressure is constantly being replenished. It is inexhaustible. By contrast, the active agent in the Watt engine is the pressure of steam and this pressure is not inexhaustible. With reference to the Negative Energy thread one can see that the Newcomen steam engine is a negative energy engine analogous to a Stirling Engine driven by an ice cube whereas the Watt steam engine is a positive energy engine analogous to a Stirling Engine driven by a cup of hot coffee. The attraction between magnets in the Sprain Magnetic Motor (SMM) can be viewed as Bernoulli style low pressure region in the Beta-atmosphere. Clearly then, the SMM is analogous to the Newcomen Engine and the Beta-atmosphere analogous to the Alpha-atmosphere and equally inexhaustible. Since the microscopic units of each SMM magnet are being subjected to tension it seems more likely that the negative entropy of those magnets (internal order) will increase rather than decrease. It seems therefor that the claim that this is indeed the case can be justified on logical grounds. Whether this too good to be true motor is in fact raising high order atmospheric motion (Beta-.Gamma-) up to the electro mechanical level or not, remains to be seen. However, it can (and will) be shown by argument at a higher scale of aethereal atmosphere that such a system is no more a perpetual motion machine than, say, a photo- voltaic cell. Cheers, Frank Grimer
Re: global warming: spin or not spin?
The importance of infra-red to the greenhouse effect can be seen in the following table. Percent solar constant at aircraft altitude: Lambda (nm) Cum % % Range 0 - 10 *** less than 0.00044 percent*** 10 - 400 8.725 8.725 UV 400 - 700 46.87938.154 Visible 700 - 10 99.99953.120 IR 10 - 100 *** less than .000998 percent *** Derived from page 14-10 of the 74th Edition of The CRC Handbook. Most of the incoming power is in already the form of infra-red. Most of the remaining incoming power is in the visible range. The downshifting of the visible range to infra-red is key to the greenhouse effect. When molecules or atoms absorb radiation, they sometimes simply re- emit the radiation at the same frequency, though not necessarily in the same direction. However, excited atoms and molecules can also re- emit the radiation in steps. This results in a down-shifting of the absorbed and then re-emitted energy. In many such cases net momentum is absorbed by the molecule in the interaction, and the light re- emitted is further down-shifted. The resulting molecular momentum change means a velocity change which on balance results in a temperature increment. Hot material emits radiation in proportion to the 4th power of its temperature. As the Earth heats up a highly non-linear relationship between infra-red radiation comes into play. As ice and snow is reduced, more of the Earth's cooling is dependent upon infra-red making it back to space. Less visible light is reflected to space as ice disappears. H2O and CO2 thus play a highly non-linear role in retarding the process of compensating for the loss of albedo due to polar melting. As polar ice disappears, albedo is lost, more water is available to the polar atmosphere, as is more methane. This results in a feedback effect which is even more powerful than a 4th power law. To some degree, compensation occurs due to cloud formation, which reflects visible light. However, high altitude water vapor concectration, that water vapor which is above any clouds that form, has a highly non-linear relationship with temperature. As temperature above the clouds increases, the ability of water vapor to exist there, without forming ice, increases dramatically. All this non-linearity ultimately means many people are in for some severe surprises. Some parts of the atmosphere are already in a runaway regime. The rapidity with which the other parts can enter that regime will doubtless be a surprise even to many scientists. Horace Heffner
Re: Sprain Mag Motor
It's even better than the inventor thinks: .028ms * 37.62W = 1.05mJ per pulse, 3 pulses per sec = 3.1mW input, quite reasonable for 6W output ;) Just kidding, obviously he meant, per pulse, 0.28s instead of 0.28ms and 1.05J instead of 1.05 W. More annoying is the inconsistency of the 10 radian/sec figure (about 1.6 turn/sec) with the 3 pulses/sec: there is supposed to be 1 pulse per turn so it should be 1.6 pulse/sec. I hope he has been more rigorous than that in computing his energy balance but I wouldn't bet a million dollars on it, I'd rather bet them on cold fusion if I had them, how funny that the boring reasonable guys on this list are the pro-CF people ;) Michel - Original Message - From: Grimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:36 PM Subject: Re: Sprain Mag Motor I found the following KeelyNet reference to Sprain's motor. You will notice that he is referred to as Paul Harry Sprain, not Harry Paul Sprain as in the Wiki article and the patent. Sprain seems to be a remarkably uncommon name. It is probably a corruption of Strain. 8-) http://www.freshpatents.com/Apparatus-and-process-for- generating-energy-dt20060209ptan20060028080.php 02/28/06 - Overunity magnet motor claim This is the first OVERUNITY magnet motor released to the public! It produces more mechanical power than needed electrical input power for the electromagnet. It is the video from Mr. Paul Harry Sprain. I had signed NDA for it and now he has released it to the world! It is simular to the Takahaski design and Mr. Sprain has got a patent for it. The electromagnet at the end of the spiral stator switches for just a few Mikroseconds the field to zero flux density, so the rotor can escape the stator fields. For the rest of the rotation circle the rotor is purely accelerated into the track. All magnets are in attraction mode, stator and rotor magnets ! This is so far the best magnet motor shown. Mr. Sprain wrote: I have been working on this project for 4 years. I have spent a little under a million dollars. I have a patent and a working prototype (see attached photos). The rotational force is measured using a torque sensor that allows me to put it under load just like a real generat! or. I have measured the energy going into the electromagnet voltage and current. It comes from a digital power supply so there is no guessing as to what is being used. I'm using a super perm alloy core for the electromagnet. A digital encoder controls the firing of the electromagnet. My results: out-.6 Nm at 10 radian/sec =6W in-19.8v @ 1.9A = 37.62W each pulse is .028ms = 1.05 W per pulse 3 pulses per/sec = 3.1W total input. Please see patent 6,954,019. Some additional info about this remarkable claim. For more details on the Takahashi magnetic spiral motor. There is also a photo and diagram accompanying the above text at: http://www.keelynet.com/ Frank
Re: Positive coverage of CF, Living on Earth, Nat. Public Radio
Thanks Bill for the link, fairly positive indeed. Robert Park must be feeling that the wind is turning, I guess I am still skeptical lacks vehemence somehow :) Michel - Original Message - From: William Beaty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:00 PM Subject: Positive coverage of CF, Living on Earth, Nat. Public Radio On monday I just heard some fairly positive coverage of LENR on public radio. Interviews were with researchers rather than with skeptics... and Robert Park gives a few sentences *without* saying anything derogatory. Amazing! See: NPR segment: Living on Earth http://www.loe.org/ Transcript and Realaudio link: Cold Fusion, a heated history http://tinyurl.com/l9zfh (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-789-0775unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
Re: National Geographic
Yes, one inventor believes he can harness lightning and use it to dissociate water. Unfortunately, the average power from lightning is quite low over time. I'll see if I can dig up the reference. Terry -Original Message- From: Michael Wood, Cincinnati [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vortex List vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 07:51:59 -0500 Subject: National Geographic There was a fairly interesting general review of Mega lightning on the National Geographic channel last night. Very few specifics, lots of generalities. The one thing I did glean is that there is a lot of power being produced in the atmosphere. Is anyone doing any work on harnessing lightning these days? It seems like we live in the middle of a giant generator, when you think of it. I've always looked at natural geological activity as a possible source for alternative energy, but the program has me musing on natural aerial activity as a source of energy. Mike Wood, Cincinnati ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Re: Sprain Mag Motor
-Original Message- From: Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:05:37 +0100 Subject: Re: Sprain Mag Motor It's even better than the inventor thinks: .028ms * 37.62W = 1.05mJ per pulse, 3 pulses per sec = 3.1mW input, quite reasonable for 6W output ;) Just kidding, obviously he meant, per pulse, 0.28s instead of 0.28ms and 1.05J instead of 1.05 W. snippage Paul is often a little sloppy with his terminology. He forgets to use the proper units. The pulse duration is not .028 ms, it's .028 s. For those remaining sceptics, I have finished reviewing additional data (subject to my NDA) and I would stake my reputation (FWIW g) that there is no measurement error. EMILIE *has* a COP 1. Terry Blanton, BEE, PE ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Re: Sprain Mag Motor
-Original Message- From: hohlrauml6d Paul is often a little sloppy with his terminology. He forgets to use the proper units. The pulse duration is not .028 ms, it's .028 s. Damn, I didn't finish the post. Why does the brain degrade so quickly after reaching 50? I meant to add that Paul meant 1.05 Watt-seconds, a measure of energy equal to 1.05 Joule. It is usually considered polite to capitalize the units which represent a name. Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Re: global warming: spin or not spin?
-Original Message- From: RC Macaulay Do I believe these greenhouse gasses are warming the planet.. perhaps CO2 is causing some.. but.. there is so much shrill and so much money made off shrill, the facts are skewed. NASA has some good readings but who can believe anything coming out of NASA anymore. A volcano the size of the 1803 Borneo bomb would help put some suspicions to rest. Of course, it would freeze the yankees and Europe. All the planets are warming: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mars_ice-age_031208.html Something is wrong with the sun. Yellowstone supervolcanoe is due to blow any time; so, don't worry, be happy. Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Re: Surprise, surprise
Howdy Jones, I love it! Westinghouse selling to Tochiba. T is buying a pig in the poke. There's nothing left of Westinghouse Nuclear except some very bad memories. All their top people began leaving in the 1970's. They once were the premier electrical bunch, knee deep in technology and spent bucks hiring and training the best EE's. Alas! The senior management team was replaced by wall street, they got into supplying uranium, lost their focus and started playing Wall Street... so much for mixing business with stock certificates. Tochiba would do better starting from scratch. It would be like trying to privatizing NASA using the present staff. Richard - Original Message - From: Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:58 AM Subject: Surprise, surprise Toshiba going nuclear ! http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v440/n7080/full/440023a.html Summary (of article by Kurt Kleiner) A Japanese consumer products giant is betting BIG on nuclear power ... Toshiba agreed last month to pay $5.4 billion - a high premium for Westinghouse Electric. In 1999, a British company had paid only a billion+ for the Pittsburg company - which has seen better days in this division. In comparison, Google was supposedly worth 25 times as much as recently as a month ago. The stock market is obviously little more than a bunch of lesser fools trading with a bunch of greater fools. the Japanese manufacturer is placing a hefty bet (much of its net worth) that nuclear power is on the verge of a global comeback - at least in China and the rest of Asia. Westinghouse's AP1000 pressurized water reactor is somewhat of a world standard. Some analysts questioned whether the Japanese electronics giant needs the hassle of controlling the world's largest supplier of nuclear power stations. Westinghouse designed about half of the world's 400-odd commercially operating nuclear reactors - many built by others and none by the company itself in recent memory. In effect, Westinghouse's assets are mostly intellectual (just like Google). Toshiba, whose assets are mostly physical, is particularly confident that it can win contracts from China, which is planning to place man more orders soon with its large cache of American bucks (and ample credit from Japanese Banks). China needs nearly 35 new nuclear plants by 2020 (average 1000 MW capacity), at a total cost of about $50 billion. That is a cost of about $1.5 billion each for the 1000 megawatt plant - demonstrating once again how artificially high the often quoted price in the USA for these is - usually one hears $5 billion per plant for what can be bought internationally for less than a third of that. We love our red tape and add-on fees. Canada has recently supplied four CANDU reactors to China, and plans to get about half of those 35 new orders, even though its plants cost slightly more initially. Since they burn natural uranium, however, they cost only about 5% for refueling - compared to the Westinghouse plant. Jones
Re: Surprise, surprise
-Original Message- From: RC Macaulay It would be like trying to privatizing NASA using the present staff. Speaking of, I'm told, due to: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/exploration/spacecraft/index.html and an early out retirement program, Marshall SFC has 400 openings. Know any real rocket scientists who want a job? g Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Re Spent Fuel Rods, Nuke Waste Electronium.
A good place to look for the (*e-) particle at levels above natural production background. The Coolant water too. Did this water get into streams in Russia before Potapov's Yusmar started producing OU Heat? The "Secret Ingredient" that Scott Little couldn't come up with? I need to get on the good side of Homer Simpson. Fred
Re: global warming: spin or not spin?
On Mar 2, 2006, at 7:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the planets are warming: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mars_ice-age_031208.html A model that fits the data has three layers near the surface, said William Boynton of the University of Arizona, Tucson, team leader for the gamma-ray spectrometer instrument on Odyssey. The very top layer would be dry, with no ice. The next layer would contain ice in the pore spaces between grains of soil. Beneath that would be a very ice- rich layer, 60 to nearly 100 percent water ice. Boynton almost has it right. The top layer is mostly crustal lichen, which seals gaps and prevents the water from leaving the soil. 8^) Horace Heffner
Re: global warming: spin or not spin?
Some typos corrected below. The importance of infra-red to the greenhouse effect can be seen in the following table. Percent solar constant at aircraft altitude: Lambda (nm) Cum % % Range 0 - 10 *** less than 0.00044 percent*** 10 - 400 8.725 8.725 UV 400 - 700 46.87938.154 Visible 700 - 10 99.99953.120 IR 10 - 100 *** less than .000998 percent *** Derived from page 14-10 of the 74th Edition of The CRC Handbook. Most of the incoming power is in already the form of infra-red. Most of the remaining incoming power is in the visible range. The downshifting of the visible range to infra-red is key to the greenhouse effect. When molecules or atoms absorb radiation, they sometimes simply re- emit the radiation at the same frequency, though not necessarily in the same direction. However, excited atoms and molecules can also re- emit the radiation in steps. This results in a down-shifting of the absorbed and then re-emitted energy. In many such cases net momentum is absorbed by the molecule in the interaction, and the light re- emitted is further down-shifted. The resulting molecular momentum change means a velocity change which on balance results in a temperature increment. As the Earth heats up a highly non-linear relationship between infra- red radiation and atmospheric absorption comes into play. Hot material emits radiation in proportion to the 4th power of its temperature. As ice and snow is reduced, less visible light is reflected to space as the ice disappears. More of the Earth's cooling is dependent upon infra-red making it back to space. H2O and CO2 thus play a highly non-linear role in retarding the process of compensating for the loss of albedo due to polar melting. As polar ice disappears, albedo is lost, more water is available to the polar atmosphere, as is more methane. This results in a feedback effect which is even more powerful than a 4th power law. To some degree, compensation occurs due to cloud formation, which reflects visible light. However, high altitude water vapor concectration, that water vapor which is above any clouds that form, has a highly non-linear relationship with temperature. As temperature above the clouds increases above the freezing threshold, the ability of water vapor to exist there, without forming ice, increases dramatically. All this non-linearity ultimately means many people are in for some severe surprises. Some parts of the atmosphere are already in a runaway regime. The rapidity with which the other parts can enter that regime will no doubt be a surprise even to many scientists. Horace Heffner
Re: Surprise, surprise
On Mar 2, 2006, at 6:58 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Toshiba going nuclear ! http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v440/n7080/full/440023a.html Summary (of article by Kurt Kleiner) A Japanese consumer products giant is betting BIG on nuclear power ... Toshiba agreed last month to pay $5.4 billion - a high premium for Westinghouse Electric. In 1999, a British company had paid only a billion+ for the Pittsburg company - which has seen better days in this division. In comparison, Google was supposedly worth 25 times as much as recently as a month ago. The stock market is obviously little more than a bunch of lesser fools trading with a bunch of greater fools. the Japanese manufacturer is placing a hefty bet (much of its net worth) that nuclear power is on the verge of a global comeback - at least in China and the rest of Asia. India may be their biggest customer. China will only be a customer long enough to internalise the technology. What is going to happen to GE if Toshiba realizes it made a bad deal? They can probably sell it to Iran. We have to be out of our minds to permit the foreign sale of defense critical companies like GE. And I thought *I* was a lunatic. I wonder if they got all the renewable energy stuff GE was working on as well? In the long run that could be much more valuable. Horace Heffner
Re: Sprain Mag Motor
On Mar 2, 2006, at 7:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: hohlrauml6d Paul is often a little sloppy with his terminology. He forgets to use the proper units. The pulse duration is not .028 ms, it's .028 s. Damn, I didn't finish the post. Why does the brain degrade so quickly after reaching 50? I meant to add that Paul meant 1.05 Watt-seconds, a measure of energy equal to 1.05 Joule. It is usually considered polite to capitalize the units which represent a name. Surprisingly to many, this is not so. When a scientist's name reaches the exalted state of being used as a unit, then when spelled out in that usage it is no longer capitalized. This non- capitalization rule is in itself an honor, designating the use of an international standard. However, the name is still capitalized in the abbreviation. Consider the following SI units and their abbreviations: hertz Hz newton N Pascal Pa joule J watt W coulomb C volt V ohm (capital omega) siemens S farad F tesla T weber Wb henry H becquerel Bq gray Gy sievert Sv and some ordinary SI units: lumen lm lux lx radian rad steradian sr Horace Heffner
Re: Sprain Mag Motor
-Original Message- From: Horace Heffner Surprisingly to many, this is not so. When a scientist's name reaches the exalted state of being used as a unit, then when spelled out in that usage it is no longer capitalized. This non-capitalization rule is in itself an honor, designating the use of an international standard. However, the name is still capitalized in the abbreviation. You are right as usual. I actually did spell them out didn't I? g Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Toyota Plant: BioPlastic made from sugar cane to replace oil based plastics
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Re: Sprain Mag Motor
At 11:32 am 02/03/2006 -0900, you wrote: On Mar 2, 2006, at 7:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: hohlrauml6d Paul is often a little sloppy with his terminology. He forgets to use the proper units. The pulse duration is not .028 ms, it's .028 s. Damn, I didn't finish the post. Why does the brain degrade so quickly after reaching 50? I meant to add that Paul meant 1.05 Watt-seconds, a measure of energy equal to 1.05 Joule. It is usually considered polite to capitalize the units which represent a name. Surprisingly to many, this is not so. When a scientist's name reaches the exalted state of being used as a unit, then when spelled out in that usage it is no longer capitalized. This non- capitalization rule is in itself an honor, designating the use of an international standard. However, the name is still capitalized in the abbreviation. Consider the following SI units and their abbreviations: hertz Hz newton N Pascal Pa joule J watt W coulomb C volt V ohm (capital omega) siemens S farad F tesla T weber Wb henry H becquerel Bq gray Gy sievert Sv and some ordinary SI units: lumen lm lux lx radian rad steradian sr Horace Heffner Personally, I find this canonization of scientists bloody annoying. As a protest I always write Centigrade instead of Celsius. At least with a unit like a lumen or lux, you know it has something to do with light - and a radian relates to a radius - but names like gray and sievert convey absolutely nothing to me. At least you yanks have stuck to the imperial system of weights and measures for common usage and not adopted the froggy metric - yet. ;-) Frank (even my spell checker didn't recognise sievert)
Re: Cold Fusion, The New Rome, and The Saint
Thanks for the references to cold fusion and the Greek myths. It has been found that the process of cold fusion is no longer needed, since the energies obtained from cold fusion, can also be obtained from magnetic technologies (H.R. Johnson patent No. 4,151,431 on April 24, 1979 permanent magnetic motor)that are already patented but cannot be massed produced for political reasons, and atomic hydrogen torches similar to Prometheus's fire, whichare already being used in car engines in Japan, do not need a metal element such as Palladium to exit the free energy process. The Russians are the leaders in free energy technologies presently, and have alreadydeveloped a free energy crystal far superior to cold fusion. The Saint movie simply predictedsymbolicallythat free energy technologies will be available in the future as will Fairy tale like free spiritual polytheistic avenues, to defeat the oil well powers of the Roman Empire and the repressive monotheism of the Catholic Church.
Magnetic Force Calculator
This site: http://www.magnetsales.com/Design/Calc_filles/PullAndPushBetween2RectMagn ets.asp http://tinyurl.com/eu6p5 Has a neat force calculator. It shows an interesting relationship if you pick a geometry and vary the size: .5 x.5 x.25 in = 9.1 lb in attraction, 5.4 lb in repulsion for a Neo 45 separated by .1 inch. Doubling each time: 1x1x.5 = 57 lb A, 34 lb R 2x2x1 = 277 lb A, 165 lb R 4x4x2 = 1211 lb A, 733 lb R 8x8x4 = 5055 lb A, 3018 lb R without changing the separation distance. Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Re: Sprain Mag Motor
And a good thing you're all coming to froggy metric too ;) Horace good point again, but why shouldn't Pascal deserve the honor of de-capitalization like everybody else? As a fellow froggy, I resent this discrimination ;) Since we are discussing conventions, I have noticed that some of you usually write below earlier messages, I used to do the same for obvious chronological reasons, and also because I thought it was more polite, but a blind man once taught me that this was very bad for blind people who read their list messages via text to speech applications: they have to listen to all the old stuff they already know about before getting to the new bit. All email clients should have a setting for answering above quoted text by default, maybe we could adopt this convention? Michel - Original Message - From: Grimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 1:07 AM Subject: Re: Sprain Mag Motor At 11:32 am 02/03/2006 -0900, you wrote: On Mar 2, 2006, at 7:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: hohlrauml6d Paul is often a little sloppy with his terminology. He forgets to use the proper units. The pulse duration is not .028 ms, it's .028 s. Damn, I didn't finish the post. Why does the brain degrade so quickly after reaching 50? I meant to add that Paul meant 1.05 Watt-seconds, a measure of energy equal to 1.05 Joule. It is usually considered polite to capitalize the units which represent a name. Surprisingly to many, this is not so. When a scientist's name reaches the exalted state of being used as a unit, then when spelled out in that usage it is no longer capitalized. This non- capitalization rule is in itself an honor, designating the use of an international standard. However, the name is still capitalized in the abbreviation. Consider the following SI units and their abbreviations: hertz Hz newton N Pascal Pa joule J watt W coulomb C volt V ohm (capital omega) siemens S farad F tesla T weber Wb henry H becquerel Bq gray Gy sievert Sv and some ordinary SI units: lumen lm lux lx radian rad steradian sr Horace Heffner Personally, I find this canonization of scientists bloody annoying. As a protest I always write Centigrade instead of Celsius. At least with a unit like a lumen or lux, you know it has something to do with light - and a radian relates to a radius - but names like gray and sievert convey absolutely nothing to me. At least you yanks have stuck to the imperial system of weights and measures for common usage and not adopted the froggy metric - yet. ;-) Frank (even my spell checker didn't recognise sievert)
Proton Conductors
...Hmm, surprised that Fred or Horace haven't thought of this one... (or maybe they have, or else they already appreciate why it wouldn't work) Proton conductors are of keen interest to many inventor-types, andfor any number of quasi-logical reasons relating to the intersection of low density, mobility through a solid, and the minimum possible mass transferper unit of +charge by a wide margin. There are a few (weak) reasons to suspect thatmechanical mass transferof charge is not as rigorously conservative as pure-EMF regimes... at least in my dreams G Of course, fuel cells and many kinds of LENR depend on proton conductivity... plus there is the obvious fact that a flow of protons is probably the cheapest way to move a lot of positive charge (on paper at least). Let's see - a pound per second of protons recirculating across a dielectric membrane is something like 50 million amps worth of current, no? Anyway, it dawned on me just now that of all proton conductors, the cheapest and most under-utilized ... for this particular kind of wild-eyed scheme is as close as the kitchen ... water ice. Yup, water ice is both a good conductor of protons - and a dielectric- and cheaper than cheap (esp. compared to Pd). Is that (ice) a combination of properties made in inventor's heaven? Not really... unless you have a ready supply of very strong (graphite or comparable) fiber as well. That is becausemoving a lot of protons across a proton conductor might require a centrifuge and/or both a centrifuge plus a cheap source of ionization (which is transparent to the ice). One could use a retaining hoop of filament wound carbon fiber to provide the necessary strength for spinning a thin layer of ice at several hundred thousand G's ...or is that G's...and it wouldn't hurt to have a cheap source of ionization in there somewhere (thorium or 40K, not to mention perhaps utilizing "spent fuel' for the sequestered version) ... I think one day, we will come to realize that so-called 'spent fuel' (from reactors) is far more valuable than the 'un-spent' variety... and there's probably a good pun in there somewhere to go with the twisted way of looking at the situation. ...the iceman returneth Jones
Stirring Syrup
Vorts, Have you ever stirred cold syrup? You get an interesting reduction in resistance (viscosity) as your stirring warms the syrup. Could a rotating magnet have a similar effect on the aether (Beta-atm)? Dr. Harold Aspden's work tends to support this. Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Sprain Magmo Theory
Vorts, I have seen one of these on the web already. I have heard it put quite simply converting magnetic energy to mechanical energy. Some say not overunity, the energy has to come from somewhere. This is true! Whether you are striking a match or tapping the ZPE, you are ultimately drawing from the big bang. But, I think the magmo can work because of turtles. Or as my good friend says, it's all about missing epsilons. If you can find a third order effect altered by a second order effect, you have probably found what Bearden calls regauging. Terry ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Re: Surprise, surprise
Ooops! That was Westinghouse, not GE. http://www.bnfl.com/ http://www.terradaily.com/reports/ Toshiba_To_Pay_Double_For_Westinghouse.html http://uk.computers.toshiba-europe.com/cgi-bin/ToshibaCSG/ news_article.jsp?ID=006709 Horace Heffner
Re: Cold Fusion, The New Rome, and The Saint
In a message dated 3/2/2006 9:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thomas, I missed the previous message you are referring to. What references?And your viewpoints fascinate me. Feel free to introduce yourself if you wish.Steve Sorry, I did not include the comments by the other person which was on another list but was pertinent to this one. I have enclosed his comments below: http://groups.msn.com/ConspiracyTheory/general.msnw?action=""> From: El Norte Sent: 2/22/2006 9:48 PM As I remember the whole plot revolved around his anger over the murder of his childhood sweetheart in a school for orphans? His life was an act of retrobution. Speaking of Cold Fusion, I was doing a search on the Paladium which was a likeness of Nike fashioned by Athena her sister, who killed her in a game of war. Athena fashioned it as an act of penance, and worshiped it in memory of her. But Zues became so jealous of her grief that he cast it into the Troad, where it was found by Dardanus, who founded the city of Troy on that very spot. The Gods said that as long as the Trojans kept it safe their City would never be destroyed, and when Aeneas fled to Italy he took what was left of it with him, where it was kept on the Palatine Hill and guarded by the Vestal Virgins until the Fall of The Western Empire. It's said that no man can look upon it without being blinded, although there were some notable acceptions. Including Aeneas and his Father Anchises, who was blinded but had his sight restored by Aphrodite, his lover and Aeneas' Mother. Apparently there are theories of cold fusionfor which this metal is an essential element. Although I never heard of Paladium, or knew it was a precious metal before in my life. And I sat through the Iliad my Sophmore year of High School like everybody else. I did hear it's used for Class Rings, if I heard that right. It's about half the price of Gold on the market. About $200 an ounce. Not a Troy Ounce I would think because that refers to Gold, right? The root word even figures into Western Europeanfolklore as the Palatine, which was the French Legend cycle. I'm familiar with the name but not the story, as I've never had the time to devote to it. Remember "Have Gun, Will Travel", Paladin was the character's name. Figures, right?? Wow! Come visit my site http://www.Groups.msn.com/Gaelateca. Lots of stuff on Xenophilia, The Western Phoenicians, The Einstein Revolution, and links tomany other sites
