[Vo]:listserve general question

2007-05-02 Thread Charles M. Brown
How do I turn off the mailings but view them on the 
archives? Where are the archives?


Aloha,

Charlie



[Vo]:They Obviously Believe in UCaps

2007-05-02 Thread Terry Blanton

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Re: [Vo]:Re: Gravimagnetism and the Pioneer Anomaly

2007-05-02 Thread Jones Beene

Horace:

I don't think that could be coincidental, but it is also to be 
expected, no? ... or if not - what are the implications?


What is to be expected by whom for what reason?  I don't know of a 
single article that anticipates an ambient gravimagnetic field, and 
certainly one of such a large magnitude, far larger than the sun's here 
on earth.



What I meant in a general way was this: if gravity and magnetism are 
interconnected to such a degree, with magnetism being the stronger field 
at closer distance etc - - yet our galaxy has one of its poles (i.e. a 
90 degree vector from its plane) pointed directly towards the "great 
attractor" which is attracting it with a gravitational field, then that 
is not coincidental is it?


... nor would be the fact that the ecliptic plane (being similar to, but 
canted wrt the galactic plane) also has a pole which is pointing in a 
similar but not exactly the same direction. IOW - it would seem that 
that this is slight evidence of both the interconnection between the two 
forces and the fact that although the galactic gravimagnetic field 
should be much stronger as felt by the ecliptic than the attractor 
gravimagnetic field, yet it is not.


As I was finishing this post, your post with the alternative explanation 
came in, which may be better.


Jones



Re: [Vo]:Re: Gravimagnetism and the Pioneer Anomaly

2007-05-02 Thread Horace Heffner


On May 2, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote:

I had been trying to figure out if Pioneer is currently heading  
closer or

farther away from the galactic center.  Do you know?

Hoyt Stearns


Pioneer 10 is heading toward Aldebaran in Taurus.  Pioneer 11 is  
headed toward Aquila
(The Eagle), northwest of the constellation of Sagittarius.  The  
galactic center is located in the direction of Sagittarius, so  
Pioneer 11 is headed in its general direction, but way north of it.   
The galactic center is located  near the radio source Sagittarius A*,  
which is located at 17h45m40.04s −29°00′28.1″, about 29 degrees  
below the ecliptic.  Taurus is away from the Sagittarius, so Pioneer  
10 is headed away from the galactic center.


By calling the ambient gravimagnetic field "galactic" I did not mean  
to imply the galactic center is the source  of the ambient  
gravimagnetic field.  In fact, I wrote in:


http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/SolarLunarGK.pdf

"The cumulative gravimagnetic field of the sun and moon do not come  
within 11
orders of magnitude of the ambient gravimagnetic field in the  
vicinity of Earth

required to account for the precession of the Earth."

"Momentarily ignoring the many possibilities for error, this leads  
automatically to
the wild speculation that we have a powerful unseen spinning neighbor  
that has
been around for a long time, longer than the solar system. The plane  
of the solar
system (the ecliptic) is not aligned with the plane of the Milky Way,  
so it is unlikely
the galactic core is involved. The axis of precession is aligned with  
the poles of the
ecliptic, thus the ambient gravimagnetic field must be also, on  
average. We may

have a dark partner in our part of the galaxy."

"If the dark partner were 150 light years away it would have to have  
[(1.551 x 10^-11
i Hz)/(9.526x10^-23 i Hz)]/(150 ly/1.496x10^8 km)^3 = 1.39x10^32  
times the

gravimagnetic dipole moment of the sun."

Regards,

Horace Heffner


[Vo]:Re: Gravimagnetism and the Pioneer Anomaly

2007-05-02 Thread Jones Beene

Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote:

I had been trying to figure out if Pioneer is currently heading closer or
farther away from the galactic center.  Do you know?


Wiki sez: Pioneer 10 is headed in the direction of the bright star 
Aldebaran, located in Taurus (constellation). The center of our Milky 
Way is in the constellation Sagittarius. I think that this would mean 
that Pioneer 10 is heading away from the galactic center, at an acute 
angle as seen from earth?


FWIW: Aldebaran is another name for Satan, so you take that for what its 
worth .


Anyway it is one of the easiest stars to find. Follow the three stars of 
Orion's belt from left to right, the first bright star found by 
continuing that line is Aldebaran.






Re: [Vo]:Re: Gravimagnetism and the Pioneer Anomaly

2007-05-02 Thread Horace Heffner


On May 2, 2007, at 11:08 AM, Jones Beene wrote:


Horace Heffner wrote:

The orientation of the ambient galactic gravimagnetic field is  
thus towards the North Ecliptic Pole in Draco, coming from the  
South Ecliptic Pole.  Another vortex first (I hope!)



I don't think that could be coincidental, but it is also to be  
expected, no? ... or if not - what are the implications?



What is to be expected by whom for what reason?  I don't know of a  
single article that anticipates an ambient gravimagnetic field, and  
certainly one of such a large magnitude, far larger than the sun's  
here on earth.


I don't think the ambient gravimagnetic field is caused by either the  
galactic center or the galaxy as a whole.  The ecliptic is at an  
angle with the galactic plane, and the ecliptic orientation is likely  
the result of the ambient gravimagnetic field at the time of the  
solar system formation.  Further, the gravimagnetic field is a 1/r^3  
field.  The mass current requirements quickly grow beyond feasibility  
with distance.


The alignment of the galactic field with the ecliptic poles is  
necessary by the method from which I derived its magnitude.  The  
earth precesses about this axis.  If the earth precessed about  
another axis, then that would be the axis of the ambient  
gravimagnetic field, regardless the orientation of the ecliptic.   
However, the fact that they are co-aligned, the axis of precession  
and the ecliptic pole, is an indication the source is extra-solar  
system, and thus I called it "galactic", and the part of that field  
near earth "ambient".


The interesting part of the calculation is that, from the precession,  
you can't tell which way the ambient field causing the precession is  
oriented.  Magnets have two stable orientations in a magnetic field.   
The torque depends on the sine of the angle with the field, so there  
are two solutions for angle.  The Pioneer data resolves the question  
of field polarity.


The immediate practical implications of an ambient gravimagnetic  
field are minor errors in estimates of solar (and other) masses, and  
minor errors in orbital mechanics and satellite tracking.  Gravity  
experiments or gravimagnetic experiments can be affected by  
longitude, latitude, and time of day.


There are large implications regarding galaxy mechanics, especially  
the arm motions.  I expect the arms are gravimagnetically structured  
and swing in a whip like fashion, giving them a higher tip velocity  
than would be expected by Newtonian mechanics.


The biggest implication is that we have somewhere nearby in the  
galaxy an unseen but very powerful gravimagnetic field generator.  In  
fact, we may have two of them interacting and thereby creating our  
polar wobble.  I estimated their precession rates at 1.585 years and  
2.066 years.  See:


http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/EarthWobble.pdf

Regards,

Horace Heffner



RE: [Vo]:Re: Gravimagnetism and the Pioneer Anomaly

2007-05-02 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
I had been trying to figure out if Pioneer is currently heading closer or
farther away from the galactic center.  Do you know?

Hoyt Stearns

-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 2:14 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Gravimagnetism and the Pioneer Anomaly


On 5/2/07, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Unless of course, they are all reflected images of one universe ! as has
> been mentioned before in a post called "A Hall of Mirrors Universe," in
> which yours truly seems to have forgotten how many sides a soccer ball
> has.

Two.  Inside and outside.

Terry



Re: [Vo]:Re: Gravimagnetism and the Pioneer Anomaly

2007-05-02 Thread Terry Blanton

On 5/2/07, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Unless of course, they are all reflected images of one universe ! as has
been mentioned before in a post called "A Hall of Mirrors Universe," in
which yours truly seems to have forgotten how many sides a soccer ball
has.


Two.  Inside and outside.

Terry



Re: [Vo]:Re: Gravimagnetism and the Pioneer Anomaly

2007-05-02 Thread OrionWorks

sez jones

...


Unless of course, they are all reflected images of one universe ! as has
been mentioned before in a post called "A Hall of Mirrors Universe," in
which yours truly seems to have forgotten how many sides a soccer ball
has. Anyway...





Oh soccer balls, smoccer balls!

I think the esteemed Science Fiction novelist, Larry Niven, sed it
best when in a short story based on his imaginative universe called
"Known Space" an adventurer was commissioned to travel in a specially
outfitted spaceship (designed by the crazy & paranoid Pupeteers
species) to the core of our galaxy. However, the closer our adventurer
got to the galactic core the more obvious it became that the core was
in the process of exploding in one unbelievably massive supernova.

Of course our adventurer reported his findings when he returned.
Nobody, excepting the Pupetters, were terribly freaked. With deadly
radiation traveling at nearly light speed everyone figured they had
another five thousand years (plus or minus a thousand) before it was
time to move.

But then I might be prejudiced, having illustrated one of Larry's
novels, RingWorld. See:

http://orionworks.com/artgal/svj/over_edge_m.htm
http://orionworks.com/artgal/svj/approaching_dawn_m.htm
http://orionworks.com/artgal/svj/flycycling_rim_m.htm

They have all been published at one time or another.

I'm currently negotiating the publication rights in adjacent mirror universes.



Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com



[Vo]:Re: Gravimagnetism and the Pioneer Anomaly

2007-05-02 Thread Jones Beene

Horace Heffner wrote:

The orientation of the ambient galactic gravimagnetic field is thus 
towards the North Ecliptic Pole in Draco, coming from the South Ecliptic 
Pole.  Another vortex first (I hope!)



I don't think that could be coincidental, but it is also to be expected, 
no? ... or if not - what are the implications?


For those who don't get the distinction, the ecliptic coordinate system 
is the astronomical system in which the principal axis is the imaginary 
disk which is formed by the path of our sun through the heavens. This 
path does not necessarily align perfectly with the galactic plane (which 
is the band of stars of the Milky Way, as seen in the night sky. The 
ecliptic poles are the two points at which a line perpendicular to the 
plane of the ecliptic strikes the surface of an imaginary celestial 
sphere of which our Milky Way is only a tiny component. The north 
ecliptic pole lies in the constellation Draco.


One would expect that the pole vector of the Milky Way itself would not 
be far removed from the ecliptic pole. Like most stars, our sun "orbits" 
the large mass in the center of our galaxy (undoubtedly a black hole); 
and our galaxy orbits an even larger mass called the "Great Attractor"


http://www.solstation.com/x-objects/greatatt.htm

which is in the constellation Cygnus. I hope that I am getting these 
constellation details correct, as it has been a while 


Anyway, I would have expected our galactic gravimagnetic field to be 
oriented either towards or away from the great attractor - and indeed 
the two- Cygnus and Draco are fairly close but not aligned.


Curiously - when Cygnus and Draco are mentioned together in ancient 
Astronomy - this brings up another point of keen interest ... (of the 
"how did they knwo that" variety) as the importance of them together 
seems to have been appreciated by the Egyptians, if I am not reading too 
much into this:


http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/articles/dwn_nwy.htm

BTW - The center of the Milky Way galaxy is 28,000 light-years away from 
us, but the "Great Attractor" which is a conglomeration of perhaps 
100,000 galaxies is a little more obscure and remote. It lies 
~400,000,000 light-years away and of course attracts our "local group" 
of galaxies (i.e. Andromeda etc.). There are however many things 
obscuring our view of the great attractor and it is most probably NOT 
the center of the universe and could even be in the opposite direction 
for all we know -- and could  be one of many 'attractors' for many 
super-clusters, which are, in effect - all universes in themselves.


Unless of course, they are all reflected images of one universe ! as has 
been mentioned before in a post called "A Hall of Mirrors Universe," in 
which yours truly seems to have forgotten how many sides a soccer ball 
has. Anyway...


More later,

Jones




[Vo]:Re: Gravimagnetism and the Pioneer Anomaly

2007-05-02 Thread Horace Heffner
A discussion of gravimagnetism and the Pioneer Anomaly is located at  
the end of:


http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/FullGravimag.pdf

It is proposed there that the Lorentz force from the ambient  
gravimagnetic field of the galaxy is the primary underlying cause for  
the Pioneer Anomaly.


Yesterday I noticed that there was a problem with the sign of the  
force expected on the Pioneers.  It finally dawned on me that the  
ambient gravimagnetic field can be either north to south or south to  
north and create exactly the same earth precession.  The Pioneers  
then let us determine the direction of the ambient gravimagnetic  
field.  It is just the opposite of what I had assumed before this  
realization.


The orientation of the ambient galactic gravimagnetic field is thus  
towards the North Ecliptic Pole in Draco, coming from the South  
Ecliptic Pole.


The article above has been updated to reflect this realization.

Regards,

Horace Heffner



[Vo]:Re: Gravimagnetism and the Pioneer Anomaly

2007-05-02 Thread Horace Heffner
A discussion of gravimagnetism and the Pioneer Anomaly is located at  
the end of:


http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/FullGravimag.pdf

It is proposed that the Lorentz force from the ambient gravimagnetic  
field of the galaxy is the primary underlying cause for the Pioneer  
Anomaly.


Yesterday I noticed that there was a problem with the sign of the  
force expected on the Pioneers.  It finally dawned on me that the  
ambient gravimagnetic force can be either North to South or South to  
North and create exactly the same earth precession.  The Pioneers  
then let us determine the direction of ambient gravimagnetic field.   
It is just the opposite of what I had assumed before this realization.


The orientation of the ambient galactic gravimagnetic field is thus  
towards the North Ecliptic Pole in Draco, coming from the South  
Ecliptic Pole.  Another vortex first (I hope!)


The article above has been updated to reflect this realization.

Regards,

Horace Heffner



[Vo]:Progress in batteries, and PHEV batteries

2007-05-02 Thread Jed Rothwell

Here is some Congressional testimony quoted in the PHEV newsletter. See also:

A123Systems to Market PHEV Conversion Packs in 2008
1 May 2007
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/05/a123systems_to_.html

Testimony Of David Vieau, CEO, A123Systems, Watertown, Massachusetts
Before The
United States Senate Committee On Finance
Subcommittee On Energy, Natural Resources, And Infrastructure
Concerning Advanced Technology Vehicles: The Road Ahead
May 1, 2007
http://www.finance.senate.gov/sitepages/hearing050107.htm

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