[Vo]:Future dependence on foreign batteries
A paragraph from the Kiplinger Letter, Aug. 29, 2008: "U.S. businesses are losing the race to make rechargeable auto batteries, the kind that will be in great demand when plug-in hybrid cars take off. Chinese and Japanese firms are rapidly locking up the market for rechargeables, which will let most Americans commute to work without using an ounce of gasoline. The upshot: A switch from depending on foreign oil to depending on foreign batteries." Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:[OT] DOM Vote
In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:24:11 -0600: Hi, [snip] >Frankly, I have a higher opinion of the female voter. Only the most >ignorant would vote for McClain just because his choice of vice >president is a woman. Most intelligent women supported Hillary >because she had experience and a program, as well as being related to >Bill. What does Palin have other than the right sex? [snip] I have never heard of her before, however many Hillary supporters did support her precisely because she would have been the first female president. Who was it that said that no one ever went broke underestimating the general public? ;) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Vo]:[OT] DOM Vote
On Aug 29, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:57:30 -0600: Hi, [snip] I wonder how many people turned McCain down before Gov. Palin's name came up? The ship is sinking with all aboard. Ed Actually I thought it was a very shrewd choice. By choosing a woman he improves his chances of capturing the disaffected Hillary supporters. Frankly, I have a higher opinion of the female voter. Only the most ignorant would vote for McClain just because his choice of vice president is a woman. Most intelligent women supported Hillary because she had experience and a program, as well as being related to Bill. What does Palin have other than the right sex? Regards, Ed Regards, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Vo]:The emphasis is on energy in this year's campaign
Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It might be useful in this regard to gather together in a list a handful of > the > most significant CF papers, and have that list under a single URL on > LENR-CANR. That is what Ed's "Student's Guide" does. I hesitate to do that because the authors tend to be jealous and I do not want to be seen as playing favorites. Cravens and Letts wrote a paper for ICCF-14 summarizing the best excess heat results. I hope to get permission to upload it. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:The emphasis is on energy in this year's campaign
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:28:47 -0400: Hi, [snip] >I do not think it is necessary to make cold fusion occur every time on >demand. I think that with the experiments we already have we could >convince more people if only we presented the experiments and the data >in a more convincing fashion to a wider audience. I believe that cold >fusion researchers have often failed to take advantage of the >opportunities they have been granted. [snip] It might be useful in this regard to gather together in a list a handful of the most significant CF papers, and have that list under a single URL on LENR-CANR. That way the most convincing evidence is always easy to refer to. Just pointing to LENR-CANR can be a bit overwhelming if one doesn't know where to start, or have the time or inclination to sift through them all. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Vo]:[OT] DOM Vote
In reply to Edmund Storms's message of Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:57:30 -0600: Hi, [snip] >I wonder how many people turned McCain down before Gov. Palin's name >came up? The ship is sinking with all aboard. > >Ed Actually I thought it was a very shrewd choice. By choosing a woman he improves his chances of capturing the disaffected Hillary supporters. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Vo]:(Fwd) Evidence for correlations between nuclear decay rates and Earth-Sun distance
In reply to MJ's message of Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:14:26 -0300: Hi, [snip] >http://arxiv.org/pdf/0808.3283v1 [snip] Quote: "As noted in Ref. [18], the coincidence in time between the change in the 54Mn counting rate and the solar flare, along with other observations, is consistent with a mechanism based on a change in during the solar flare." "" doesn't translate into ASCII, but represents the Solar neutrino flux. Note that since neutrinos encounter very little resistance when traveling through matter, they can escape from even the core of the Sun almost instantaneously, while the other forms of energy released in the core take years to reach the surface. Since AFAIK neutrinos are only created by weak force reactions, and solar flares are a surface phenomenon, for the two to be concurrent would appear to imply that the weak force reactions are happening at the surface rather than deep in the core. Since there is no known mechanism that can bring about a change in decay rate, involving the weak force, I draw the conclusion that the putative change in neutrino flux would have to be caused by a change in the number of fusion reactions taking place, and furthermore, that these would have to be taking place at the surface. This is however in conflict with the current model of solar operation. However it would be supported by a model of solar activity where Hydrino based fusion occurs at the surface. IOW Solar flares might be powered by sudden bursts of Hydrino fusion. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Vo]:[OT] DOM Vote
Edmund Storms wrote: > I wonder how many people turned McCain down before Gov. Palin's name came > up? The ship is sinking with all aboard. I do not think so. I would not count out McCain or the Republican Party. I expect this will be a very close election. Creationism is not a problem for the Republican Party or McCain personally. I do not think that McCain cares one way or the other about creationism. But he does not oppose it. He gave the keynote address at the Discovery Institute in 2005. He has been quoted on both sides of the issue: Daily Star: Does it belong in science? McCain: There's enough scientists that believe it does. I'm not a scientist. This is something that I think all points of view should be presented. "I think Americans should be exposed to every point of view," he said. "I happen to believe in evolution…I respect those who think the world was created in seven days. Should it be taught as a science class? Probably not." http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/12/mccain-creationism/ In his second book, Obama unequivocally said that he believes in evolution. This is getting far off topic, but here is one other astounding political development. Pat Buchanan liked Obama's speech, and he sounds like supports Obama. I kept expecting him to say that it was a great speech but it was all a trick and he doesn't believes that Obama means what he says. But he did not say that. In fact, he describes Obama as a conservative. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZotPTqj4qAU Politics makes for strange bedfellows. I agree that Obama is fundamentally conservative, again based on his book. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:[OT] DOM Vote
I wonder how many people turned McCain down before Gov. Palin's name came up? The ship is sinking with all aboard. Ed On Aug 29, 2008, at 1:46 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Terry Blanton wrote: The republicans have sealed the dirty old man vote. Gov. Palin at 20: And also the creationist vote, but they had that sewed up anyway. Gov. Palin supports "teaching the controversy" in the public schools. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:[OT] DOM Vote
And they had the old man vote until BO picked Biden; so, now all they have is the DOM (which is most :-). On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Terry Blanton wrote: > >> The republicans have sealed the dirty old man vote. Gov. Palin at 20: > > And also the creationist vote, but they had that sewed up anyway. Gov. > Palin supports "teaching the controversy" in the public schools. > > - Jed > >
Re: [Vo]:[OT] DOM Vote
Terry Blanton wrote: > The republicans have sealed the dirty old man vote. Gov. Palin at 20: And also the creationist vote, but they had that sewed up anyway. Gov. Palin supports "teaching the controversy" in the public schools. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Symmetric Mars particles
Yes, but do you like your governor? Terry On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Horace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > New symmetric particles in Mars micrograph: > > http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=25876&cID=259 > > Possibly opening ascomata, similar to Trochila ascomata: > > http://www.mycolog.com/4_Trochila_unopened.jpg > > There appear to be hyphal blooms in the vicinity as well, at the bottom of > the photo. > > Best regards, > > Horace Heffner > http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ > > > > >
[Vo]:[OT] DOM Vote
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Re: [Vo]:The emphasis is on energy in this year's campaign
On Aug 29, 2008, at 12:28 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: I hope you are right, Jed. But I can hear the response to any request. "I agree, evidence for CF exists, But you have no idea why or how it works and you can't make it work very often. We have an energy problem we need to solve right now using methods that are better understood. So come back when you have more understanding". How would you respond to such a rejection? I would ignore it and look for someone else who understands how science and research work. There are many unhelpful people. We need to ignore them and continue looking for enlightened people. Yes, but where do you find such people in the government? Until someone can show how the effect can be made to occur every time on demand, I don't think we can get much public funding. Meanwhile, slow progress is being made using private funding. Most funding for cold fusion is public, especially DARPA and the Navy in the U.S., and the Italian national nuclear laboratories. Yes, but this work is tightly focused on replication in the US. The Italian work as well as that done in Russia is broader. We need efforts that are designed to understand the process rather than just prove that it is real. I do not think it is necessary to make cold fusion occur every time on demand. I think that with the experiments we already have we could convince more people if only we presented the experiments and the data in a more convincing fashion to a wider audience. I believe that cold fusion researchers have often failed to take advantage of the opportunities they have been granted. A phenomenon can not be investigated unless it can be made to occur on demand. No one will put a large amount of money into an effect that is seldom observed. That is why the funding levels are small as they should be. This is the right approach and will eventually provide the information demanded by public funding agencies. We have public funding; we need more. We have often maligned the government in this business but actually it has done more for cold fusion than industry, universities or other institutions. True. However, most of this money was spent trying to learn whether the effect was real, not to understand the mechanism. As a result, the effect was shown to be real. We now need to understand the mechanism. This will take a lot of money. Unfortunately, money for such basic science in the US is hard to find. Ed - Jed
Re: [Vo]:The emphasis is on energy in this year's campaign
Edmund Storms wrote: > I hope you are right, Jed. But I can hear the response to any request. "I > agree, evidence for CF exists, But you have no idea why or how it works and > you can't make it work very often. We have an energy problem we need to > solve right now using methods that are better understood. So come back when > you have more understanding". How would you respond to such a rejection? I would ignore it and look for someone else who understands how science and research work. There are many unhelpful people. We need to ignore them and continue looking for enlightened people. > Until someone can show how the effect can be > made to occur every time on demand, I don't think we can get much public > funding. Meanwhile, slow progress is being made using private funding. Most funding for cold fusion is public, especially DARPA and the Navy in the U.S., and the Italian national nuclear laboratories. I do not think it is necessary to make cold fusion occur every time on demand. I think that with the experiments we already have we could convince more people if only we presented the experiments and the data in a more convincing fashion to a wider audience. I believe that cold fusion researchers have often failed to take advantage of the opportunities they have been granted. This > is the right approach and will eventually provide the information demanded > by public funding agencies. We have public funding; we need more. We have often maligned the government in this business but actually it has done more for cold fusion than industry, universities or other institutions. - Jed
Re: [Vo]: Evidence for correlations between nuclear decay rates and Earth-Sun distance
--- MJ wrote: > Evidence for correlations between nuclear decay rates and Earth-Sun distance > Some implications of these results are discussed... including the suggestion that discrepancies in published half-life determinations for these and other nuclides may be attributable in part to differences in solar activity during the course of the various experiments, or to seasonal variations in fundamental constants. This is interesting, but I would counter that they got the determination of actual proximate cause, and the reasoning behind it partially, or completely, wrong (i.e. the "distance" part of the title seems correct; but they have a problem with internal logic and consistency)... ...since it is probably NOT due to variation is solar radiation at all (due to distance per se), unless the seasonal component is much more strongly correlated than has been indicated. If you consider this paper alongside the Barker findings of vastly increased decay rates in some minerals in a HV electric field, then the culprit for both points to some version of an electrogravity theory. IOW -the importance of "distance" relates to how electrogravity interacts with unstable nuclei and NOT at all related to solar insolation. Horace might want to take a look at the details of how this fits into his theory. Jones
[Vo]:Symmetric Mars particles
New symmetric particles in Mars micrograph: http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=25876&cID=259 Possibly opening ascomata, similar to Trochila ascomata: http://www.mycolog.com/4_Trochila_unopened.jpg There appear to be hyphal blooms in the vicinity as well, at the bottom of the photo. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
Re: [Vo]:The emphasis is on energy in this year's campaign
I hope you are right, Jed. But I can hear the response to any request. "I agree, evidence for CF exists, But you have no idea why or how it works and you can't make it work very often. We have an energy problem we need to solve right now using methods that are better understood. So come back when you have more understanding". How would you respond to such a rejection? How would you propose a laboratory start the process of understanding the effect. Several efforts are underway and have had periodic success. Nevertheless, they are not even close to a useful explanation that can be believed by normal science. Until someone can show how the effect can be made to occur every time on demand, I don't think we can get much public funding. Meanwhile, slow progress is being made using private funding. This is the right approach and will eventually provide the information demanded by public funding agencies. Ed On Aug 29, 2008, at 8:40 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Every second speaker at the Democratic National Convention talked about energy and plug-in hybrid automobiles. I expect the Republicans will also have a lot to say about energy. With all this attention being paid to energy, whichever party wins we ought to be able to get a little funding for cold fusion from the next administration. If we cannot make any headway under these circumstances we are doing something wrong. - Jed
[Vo]:(Fwd) Evidence for correlations between nuclear decay rates and Earth-Sun distance
--- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:03:10 -0400 Subject:Evidence for correlations between nuclear decay rates and Earth-Sun distance Evidence for correlations between nuclear decay rates and Earth-Sun distance Unexplained periodic fluctuations in the decay rates of 32 Si and 226 Ra have been reported by groups at Brookhaven National Laboratory ( 32 Si), and at the Physikalisch-Technische- Bundesandstalt in Germany( 226 Ra). We show from an analysis of the raw data in these experiments that the observed fluctuations are strongly correlated in time, not only with each other, but also with the distance between the Earth and the Sun. Some implications of these results are also discussed, including the suggestion that discrepancies in published half-life determinations for these and other nuclides may be attributable in part to differences in solar activity during the course of the various experiments, or to seasonal variations in fundamental constants. http://arxiv.org/pdf/0808.3283v1 --- End of forwarded message ---
[Vo]:The emphasis is on energy in this year's campaign
Every second speaker at the Democratic National Convention talked about energy and plug-in hybrid automobiles. I expect the Republicans will also have a lot to say about energy. With all this attention being paid to energy, whichever party wins we ought to be able to get a little funding for cold fusion from the next administration. If we cannot make any headway under these circumstances we are doing something wrong. - Jed
