Re: [Vo]:Ozone Bulb/ Steam Condensation Research
Nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) may be able to determine the distance between the two hydrogen atoms of water molecules. Any university chemistry lab should have the equipment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NMR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_NMR On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 05:13:37PM -0800, Harvey Norris wrote: >According to John Ellis, using an ozone bulb across the steam generated in a >condensation still type set-up used for distillation results in a "shifted" >molecular bond between hydrogen and oxygen water molecules impregnated as the >new bond angle made after recombination into liquid state from a former >gaseous steam state; with the additional influence of the UV wavelength used >by these germicidal type bulbs to be present initially before the phase change >from gaseous steam to liquid water taking place upon cooling. Typical ozone >bubbling techniques to produce ozonated water shows a rather quick dimunition >of ozone present in the water, as it is presumably evaporated out. However the >method here is to change the bonding angle of the condensated water molecule >itself by influence of the UV light radiation which normally will produce >airborne ozone when exposed to atmosphere by this blue type quartz bulb, but >in this case its influence is limited by a > pressurized steam flow. I am now engaged in producing samples of this product > and wish to test it according to the hypothesized phase angle change of water > made by this method. I have heard that it is practically impossible to test > the phase angle thesis. Will ship samples for others to test if they see a > light at the end of the tunnel here. >Sincerely HDN
[Vo]:Ozone Bulb/ Steam Condensation Research
According to John Ellis, using an ozone bulb across the steam generated in a condensation still type set-up used for distillation results in a "shifted" molecular bond between hydrogen and oxygen water molecules impregnated as the new bond angle made after recombination into liquid state from a former gaseous steam state; with the additional influence of the UV wavelength used by these germicidal type bulbs to be present initially before the phase change from gaseous steam to liquid water taking place upon cooling. Typical ozone bubbling techniques to produce ozonated water shows a rather quick dimunition of ozone present in the water, as it is presumably evaporated out. However the method here is to change the bonding angle of the condensated water molecule itself by influence of the UV light radiation which normally will produce airborne ozone when exposed to atmosphere by this blue type quartz bulb, but in this case its influence is limited by a pressurized steam flow. I am now engaged in producing samples of this product and wish to test it according to the hypothesized phase angle change of water made by this method. I have heard that it is practically impossible to test the phase angle thesis. Will ship samples for others to test if they see a light at the end of the tunnel here. Sincerely HDN
[Vo]:Letter uploaded -- maybe the Obama network will help
As I noted here, I uploaded my letter to Obama to the letter to the administration transition site. I also sent it to various young people I know who worked on the campaign. They were happy to forward it. Plus I put it in the news section: http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm It is a shot in the dark, like buying a lottery ticket. Who knows, we might get a viral response going, within the massive Obama e-mail network. The size & power of Obama's e-mail network is astounding. This was kept confidential during the campaign, but he has approximately ~11 million names of supporters. See: http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/382337 As this article says, the power of this network cuts both ways. It enhances his power, but it might also inhibit it. It also communicates in both directions (to some extent), which is why I think there is a chance we can raise people's awareness of cold fusion via this link. Interesting quotes from article: "The same paragraph cites "senior aides," however, to report that the list is so financially valuable that it was "briefly offered" as loan "collateral during a cash-flow crunch." A source in a position to know also told me that the email list has reached eleven million people. So how did this information go from the Democratic Party's best kept secret to an announcement in The Washington Post? Because now, Obama's team wants everyone to know. The massive list of energized activists is the biggest stick Obama will carry in Washington. It enables direct communication at a remarkable scale. The next President can instantly address 16 percent of his national supporters, based on the popular vote. To put it another way, the list dwarfs the audience of all the nightly cable news shows combined. . . . Obama's email network is especially intriguing for governance, however, because it has the potential of acting as both his most powerful grassroots tool and the most visible check on a President at the helm of one-party government." Conservatives should be pleased with that. Nothing stop them from contributing. Despite the tremendous population of the U.S., it is now possible for an administration to be more aware of and in touch with the concerns of the citizens than at any time in the past. Even a population of 20 million (mid-19th century) would be too large for a president to learn much about individual views, but with Internet technology an administration can learn a great deal about the country. This does not have to be limited to merely responding to polls or the latest fad or fear. It can go much deeper. Corporations are learning to respond to their customer needs by looking closely at e-mail and Internet conversations. The government should do this too. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Give them an inch, they'll take a friggin' mile...
Taylor J. Smith wrote: Ayn Rand hated the Communists. If you want to see where she was coming from, read Yes, she hated them, yet she strongly resembled them. That's my point. Both were extremists. Both put their theories about human nature ahead of actual observations and experience. Both were blinded by the beauty of a doctrine and could not see where it did not fit reality. Many scientists and intellectuals suffer from these faults. Experimentalists are less prone to it than theorists, I think. It was T. H. Huxley, the great experimentalist, who said: "Science is organized common sense where many a beautiful theory was killed by an ugly fact." Pragmatists and experimentalists have what I consider a healthy distrust of theory. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Give them an inch, they'll take a friggin' mile...
And just to "sweeteen" the kitty, lets give an extra $140 billion in tax breaks to the banks. Like Smith Barney said.. we earned it! Paulson only did what he's very good at.. being slick as silk. It takes a particular type to be a banker.. ever notice ? Richard - Original Message - From: "Taylor J. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:48 AM Subject: [Vo]:Give them an inch, they'll take a friggin' mile... Terry wrote: And, yes, Greenspan admitted he FU. He opened the gates expecting the banks to protect themselves. He misjudged human greed. Hi All, Greenspan knew the extent of the thievery that was going on. He thought the Kondratieff upswing would hide it, but too much was being stolen. We are now in the position of a company that has suffered a major embezzlement; but, in this case, thanks to Phil Gramm and the other deregulators, what the theives did was legal. However, we are still in a K. upswing. All we have to do is pour in capital. Come on President Obama, spend a trillion making jobs building windmills, etc. And, if oil hit $40/barrel by Christmas, don't blink. Jack Smith No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1778 - Release Date: 11/9/2008 2:14 PM
[Vo]:Why not here?
There are many cities in the USA where the following kind of "bicycle share" system (NY Times site), or an e-bike variant (e-scooter or even Seqway), would work to some degree : http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/10/world/europe/10bike.html?_r=1&oref=slogin Unfortunately this system begs to be initially subsidized and standardized, and that is why it is almost unknown here. It might not work as well here, as in Europe, since destinations tend to be more spread out, but if it lowered auto and taxi usage by even a few percent in the big cities, that helps. It could also work for plug-in e-bikes -- that is, if the theft issues could be solved with such tricks as RFID, along with increased video surveillance, which is being installed anyway. If municipal and police video-cams incorporated and recognized RFID then theft issues in many situations including ebikes could be mitigated. This is the ideal system for Federal government initial involvement and support - to set standards and encourage US manufacturers to benefit -- and then to get out of the way. It is the marginal few percent on the supply/demand curve for fuel - the "leading edge" which makes a huge the difference in price, futures, and trends. A share-system could provide that lowering of demand for fuel by a few percent. Jones
[Vo]:Give them an inch, they'll take a friggin' mile...
Terry wrote: And, yes, Greenspan admitted he FU. He opened the gates expecting the banks to protect themselves. He misjudged human greed. Hi All, Greenspan knew the extent of the thievery that was going on. He thought the Kondratieff upswing would hide it, but too much was being stolen. We are now in the position of a company that has suffered a major embezzlement; but, in this case, thanks to Phil Gramm and the other deregulators, what the theives did was legal. However, we are still in a K. upswing. All we have to do is pour in capital. Come on President Obama, spend a trillion making jobs building windmills, etc. And, if oil hit $40/barrel by Christmas, don't blink. Jack Smith
[Vo]:Give them an inch, they'll take a friggin' mile...
Hi All, Ayn Rand hated the Communists. If you want to see where she was coming from, read "We the Living, a novel by Ayn Rand. Published in 1936, We the Living was Ayn Rand's first novel. http://www.noblesoul.com/orc/books/rand/living/index.html " Jack Smith Jed Rothwell wrote: "I could be wrong" is just what Rand and communists would never say. They thought their economic systems were constructed on scientific principles.