Re: [Vo]:More from Lewis Larsen

[mixent]

In reply to  Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:50:13 -0900:
Hi Horace,
[snip]
>A quick search yields the web site:
>
>http://makezine.com/03/interview/index.csp?page=last&x-maxdepth=0

I had already found several references to Lattice Energy, LLC, but obviously not
the right one :(

Thanks. :)

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html

Re: [Vo]:More from Lewis Larsen

[Horace Heffner]

On Jan 28, 2009, at 5:29 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:

In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:09:12  
-0800 (PST):

Hi,
[snip]

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/LENRsReplacingCoal.php

... sounding a bit like Jed's book...


Does anyone have an email address for the author(s)?


The key statement: "The author declares his commercial interest as  
President and CEO of Lattice Energy LLC".


A quick search yields the web site:

http://makezine.com/03/interview/index.csp?page=last&x-maxdepth=0

http://tinyurl.com/az53jd

that gives the info as of 2005:

Lewis G. Larsen
President and CEO
Lattice Energy, LLC
Chicago, IL
(312) 861-0115
lewisglar...@cs.com

Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Re: [Vo]:More from Lewis Larsen

[mixent]

In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:09:12 -0800 (PST):
Hi,
[snip]
>http://www.i-sis.org.uk/LENRsReplacingCoal.php
>
>... sounding a bit like Jed's book...

Does anyone have an email address for the author(s)?

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html

Re: [VO]: National SF

[Terry Blanton]

That they don't know WTF they are talking about?

Terry

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:11 PM, R C Macaulay  wrote:
> Howdy Vorts,
> Spashing across the TV and headline news come the report that people at the
>  National Science Foundation has been watching porn on the internet. PETA is
> on a  "veggie seduction" campaign and Al Gore announced that his crusade
> will change the wording from "global warming" to "climate change".
> What is all this supposed to mean??
> Richard

[VO]: National SF

[R C Macaulay]

Howdy Vorts,
Spashing across the TV and headline news come the report that people at the  
National Science Foundation has been watching porn on the internet. PETA is on 
a  "veggie seduction" campaign and Al Gore announced that his crusade will 
change the wording from "global warming" to "climate change".
What is all this supposed to mean??
Richard

Re: [Vo]:Calculation of permittivity and permeability in charged gases

[mixent]

In reply to  David Jonsson's message of Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:25:05 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
>On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:19 AM,  wrote:
>
>> In reply to  David Jonsson's message of Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:43:20 +0100:
>> Hi,
>> [snip]
>> >Hi
>> >
>> >Please tell me how to calculate the permittivity, the electrical constant
>> ?
>> >and the permeability, magnetic constant ?, in a gas with some net charge.
>> >There are no free electrons. The gas is made from diatomic molecules.
>> [snip]
>> I have no idea, but I suspect it would be quite a complicated calculation,
>> and
>> also depend on density of the gas. Actually I'm not sure it's even possible
>> to
>> create a gas with a significant net charge, so you might consider air at
>> STP as
>> a reasonable starting point, in which case the relevant relative constants
>> are
>> close to 1 (IOW treat it as a vacuum).
>>
>
>Theretically anything is possible.
>
>I consider ordinary air in reasonable temperature ranges. I have seen
>calculations like this being performed on lectures but I do not remember
>enough of them.

...and you don't have the lecture notes any more?

The problem with net charge on a gas, is that it has to be in some form of
container, and I suspect the charge will end up on the wall of the container
rather than on the gas.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html

Re: [Vo]:Calculation of permittivity and permeability in charged gases

[R C Macaulay]

  Howdy David,
  I believe I know where you are going with this.. brings back memories of the 
1960's.
  Using air, at stp you may try using a differential pressure  flow measuring 
devices like a simple  1/16" orifice. 

  This flow  would  measure the free discharge of air  to atmosphere  from a 
tank that maintains a constant internal pressure. You should achieve terminal 
velocity of the air flow at approx. 5 PSID at sea level. Various experiments 
with magnets and electric arcs, solenoids, etc. can be performed within the 
tank while watching the flow meter. You may also change the s,g of the gas.
  As Robin suggests, the mathematics can be difficult, but any need to know the 
permitivity .. i.e, the electric constant  relates to your end result so who 
cares what the ec is.
  The tank of air provides you with the tools.
  If you want to have a little fun with this experiment.. start with air and 
begin blending CO2 gas in to the refilling of the air tank.. as the CO2 
discharges to atmosphere.. fun stuff begins. Especially if you  aim one of the 
new hydrogen cutting torches at the gas discharge. 
  Richard
   

  On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:19 AM,  wrote:

In reply to  David Jonsson's message of Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:43:20 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
>Hi
>
>Please tell me how to calculate the permittivity, the electrical constant ?

>and the permeability, magnetic constant ?, in a gas with some net charge.
>There are no free electrons. The gas is made from diatomic molecules.

[snip]
I have no idea, but I suspect it would be quite a complicated calculation, 
and
also depend on density of the gas. Actually I'm not sure it's even possible 
to
create a gas with a significant net charge, so you might consider air at 
STP as
a reasonable starting point, in which case the relevant relative constants 
are
close to 1 (IOW treat it as a vacuum).


  Theretically anything is possible.

  I consider ordinary air in reasonable temperature ranges. I have seen 
calculations like this being performed on lectures but I do not remember enough 
of them.

  David 

Re: [Vo]:Calculation of permittivity and permeability in charged gases

[David Jonsson]

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:19 AM,  wrote:

> In reply to  David Jonsson's message of Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:43:20 +0100:
> Hi,
> [snip]
> >Hi
> >
> >Please tell me how to calculate the permittivity, the electrical constant
> ?
> >and the permeability, magnetic constant ?, in a gas with some net charge.
> >There are no free electrons. The gas is made from diatomic molecules.
> [snip]
> I have no idea, but I suspect it would be quite a complicated calculation,
> and
> also depend on density of the gas. Actually I'm not sure it's even possible
> to
> create a gas with a significant net charge, so you might consider air at
> STP as
> a reasonable starting point, in which case the relevant relative constants
> are
> close to 1 (IOW treat it as a vacuum).
>

Theretically anything is possible.

I consider ordinary air in reasonable temperature ranges. I have seen
calculations like this being performed on lectures but I do not remember
enough of them.

David

Re: [Vo]:Calculation of permittivity and permeability in charged gases

[mixent]

In reply to  David Jonsson's message of Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:43:20 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
>Hi
>
>Please tell me how to calculate the permittivity, the electrical constant ?
>and the permeability, magnetic constant ?, in a gas with some net charge.
>There are no free electrons. The gas is made from diatomic molecules.
[snip]
I have no idea, but I suspect it would be quite a complicated calculation, and
also depend on density of the gas. Actually I'm not sure it's even possible to
create a gas with a significant net charge, so you might consider air at STP as
a reasonable starting point, in which case the relevant relative constants are
close to 1 (IOW treat it as a vacuum).

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html

[Vo]:Calculation of permittivity and permeability in charged gases

[David Jonsson]

Hi

Please tell me how to calculate the permittivity, the electrical constant ε
and the permeability, magnetic constant μ, in a gas with some net charge.
There are no free electrons. The gas is made from diatomic molecules.

David

David Jonsson
Sweden
phone callto:+46703000370

Re: [Vo]:More from Lewis Larsen

[Ron Wormus]

Here's another one: The Fascination of Extreme Science



He visits Ed Storms & mentions Jed.
Ron

--On Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:09 AM -0800 Jones Beene 
 wrote:




http://www.i-sis.org.uk/LENRsReplacingCoal.php

... sounding a bit like Jed's book...

[Vo]:More from Lewis Larsen

[Jones Beene]

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/LENRsReplacingCoal.php

... sounding a bit like Jed's book...