[Vo]:Russian Schuaberger website

2009-02-18 Thread thomas malloy

http://www.evg-ars.narod.ru/shauberg1.htm


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Re: [Vo]:leave my poor LEGOs out of this!!

2009-02-18 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
I see a nit!!

It was actually TANSTAAFL (which is more pronounceable)  and it stands
for There Ain't No   and so forth.  At least, that's what it was
in Mistress.  (Didn't recall that the slogan appeared in Stranger.)

But, don't take my word for it -- let's ask Google.

Search for TNSTAAFL:16,100 hits

Search for TANSTAAFL:  216,000 hits

So the websites of the world vote 13 to 1 in favor of TANSTAAFL.


Terry Blanton wrote:
 Yep, Robert Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land.  Also mentioned in
 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
 
 Terry
 
 On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 10:33 PM, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net 
 wrote:
 OrionWorks wrote:

 From Terry:

 Watch the spin and you will see a beat frequency between the camera


 TNSTAAFL

 Yup, I noticed that too, bro. Especially in the beginning. However, in
 the last segment the wheel RPM appeared (at least to me) to have
 stabilized somewhat. Perhaps that was an optical illusion.

 BTW: TNSTAAFL: Please translate.

 There is no such thing as a free lunch



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Re: [Vo]:leave my poor LEGOs out of this!!

2009-02-18 Thread Terry Blanton
UR right.  It's impossible to pronounce without the 'A'.

Terry (who grew up saying ain't but got over it)

PS Forgive me Mr. Heinlein.  You know, there is an anecdote that
$cientology resulted from a bet between RAH and LRH.  Heinlein bet
Hubbard that he could not create a religion that the IRS would
recognize.  I wonder if Heinlein paid up?  Hail Xenu!

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
 I see a nit!!

 It was actually TANSTAAFL (which is more pronounceable)  and it stands
 for There Ain't No   and so forth.  At least, that's what it was
 in Mistress.  (Didn't recall that the slogan appeared in Stranger.)

 But, don't take my word for it -- let's ask Google.

 Search for TNSTAAFL:16,100 hits

 Search for TANSTAAFL:  216,000 hits

 So the websites of the world vote 13 to 1 in favor of TANSTAAFL.


 Terry Blanton wrote:
 Yep, Robert Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land.  Also mentioned in
 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.

 Terry

 On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 10:33 PM, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net 
 wrote:
 OrionWorks wrote:

 From Terry:

 Watch the spin and you will see a beat frequency between the camera


 TNSTAAFL

 Yup, I noticed that too, bro. Especially in the beginning. However, in
 the last segment the wheel RPM appeared (at least to me) to have
 stabilized somewhat. Perhaps that was an optical illusion.

 BTW: TNSTAAFL: Please translate.

 There is no such thing as a free lunch



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Re: [Vo]:leave my poor LEGOs out of this!!

2009-02-18 Thread leaking pen
Actually, Heinlein didn't invent the phrase, its known use for a LONG
time, and was often also written as tinstaafl, (there is no such..),
but Heinlein used the bastardized version for the official motto of
the Luna colony.  I'd not ever seen it just tns, but i have seen it as
tafl (leaving off the extra a for a) so removing the modifier is or
ain't isn't too inapropriate for a lettered shortening. It happens in
acronym making.

As for the bet, it was actually Harlan Ellison that made the bet
originally, at a writers retreat, and then others got in on the
action.  The lot of them there (Ellison, Hubbard, Heinlein, Leguin,
and Card, i know were there, i forget the other notables listed, ill
dig out the essay Ellison wrote about it) spent several hours
brainstorming a religion, and playing ideas off each other.  While
L.Ron sat there taking notes.

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
 UR right.  It's impossible to pronounce without the 'A'.

 Terry (who grew up saying ain't but got over it)

 PS Forgive me Mr. Heinlein.  You know, there is an anecdote that
 $cientology resulted from a bet between RAH and LRH.  Heinlein bet
 Hubbard that he could not create a religion that the IRS would
 recognize.  I wonder if Heinlein paid up?  Hail Xenu!

 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
 I see a nit!!

 It was actually TANSTAAFL (which is more pronounceable)  and it stands
 for There Ain't No   and so forth.  At least, that's what it was
 in Mistress.  (Didn't recall that the slogan appeared in Stranger.)

 But, don't take my word for it -- let's ask Google.

 Search for TNSTAAFL:16,100 hits

 Search for TANSTAAFL:  216,000 hits

 So the websites of the world vote 13 to 1 in favor of TANSTAAFL.


 Terry Blanton wrote:
 Yep, Robert Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land.  Also mentioned in
 The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.

 Terry

 On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 10:33 PM, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net 
 wrote:
 OrionWorks wrote:

 From Terry:

 Watch the spin and you will see a beat frequency between the camera


 TNSTAAFL

 Yup, I noticed that too, bro. Especially in the beginning. However, in
 the last segment the wheel RPM appeared (at least to me) to have
 stabilized somewhat. Perhaps that was an optical illusion.

 BTW: TNSTAAFL: Please translate.

 There is no such thing as a free lunch



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[Vo]:More on rooftop turbines ...

2009-02-18 Thread Horace Heffner

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/business/15novel.html?em

http://tinyurl.com/apghmz

Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/






[Vo]:Tublar Rail

2009-02-18 Thread Ron Wormus

A Low cost rail idea that looks pretty good to me.

http://www.tubularrail.com/



Re: [Vo]:More on rooftop turbines ...

2009-02-18 Thread mixent
In reply to  Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:07:28 -0900:
Hi,
[snip]
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/business/15novel.html?em

The energy ball turbine appears to combine all the disadvantages of both
types, with none of the advantages.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html