Re: [Vo]:WIRED: Race for cold fusion: Nasa, MIT, Darpa and Cern peer through the keyhole

[Rich Murray]

our dream becoming reality?
can it really be?

I'd like to see detailed accounts of independent replications of
anomalies, which then would have to granted the status of paradigm
shifting data...

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:00 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
 wrote:
> See:
>
> http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-02/27/rossi-roundup?page=all
>
> Primarily a rehash of what we already know. Decently written,
> however... with a sprinkle of skepticism here and there.
>
> I noticed that Krivt & NET are referenced several times for the source
> of their information. Krivit was even described as "indefatigable" at
> one point.
>
> Regards
> Steven Vincent Johnson
> www.OrionWorks.com
> www.zazzle.com/orionworks
>

[Vo]:education revolution in Russia, second year has 10,000 free dual screen E-OK tablets in 300 schools in 40 regions, Alexander Evgenievich Shustorovich, billionaire from Russia raised in USA, Wir

[Rich Murray]

education revolution in Russia, second year has 10,000 free dual
screen E-OK tablets in 300 schools in 40 regions, Alexander
Evgenievich Shustorovich, billionaire from Russia raised in USA,
Wired.co.uk, James Silver: Rich Murray 2012.02.27

"An American national, who divides his time between Moscow and New
York, Shustorovich reveals that, in the project's second year, there
are currently about 10,000 tablets in almost 300 schools in more than
40 Russian regions. "And that's a very minimal number," he says. [
also a school test in China... ]"

http://www.wired.co.uk/magazine/archive/2012/03/features/classroom-disruptor?page=all

Classroom Disruptor: the proprietary tablet PC that's changing Russian schools
By James Silver  24 February 2012

Comments
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School number 1409 lies about ten kilometres north of Moscow city
centre, in an exclusive enclave of gated communities. Through the
rain-spattered windscreen, designer apartment buildings loom like an
architect's brainstorm. One block of flats is shaped like a ship's
sails. Another resembles industrial chimneys. A third, a crossword
puzzle.

The school overlooks the vast expanse of a disused military airfield.
We pull up at a security checkpoint by the gates. Under the gun-metal
Moscow skies, the building leaps out with its jumble of yellow and
green façades, horizontal grey stripes and deeper grey zigzags.

School 1409 is part of a hugely ambitious experiment devised by
Alexander Evgenievich Shustorovich, a hugely wealthy Moscow-born
entrepreneur with top-level political connections in both Russia and
the US. On the surface, Shustorovich's project is a public-spirited
attempt to bring Russia's education system into the digital era. In
the 2010-11 academic year, around 300 year-six pupils from 11 schools
in cities across Russia, from well-heeled Moscow to the rural Siberian
city of Tomsk and the mining stronghold of Magnitogorsk, were loaned a
portable hybrid e-book and tablet computer with which to learn, do
their homework, revise for exams and -- soon -- order lunch from the
school cafeteria.

But this isn't solely a social experiment. Shustorovich, 45, wants to
create Russia's next platform for digital interactions, one that his
business controls. With every keystroke and swipe on his devices, he
is building a giant real-time spreadsheet of personal data. Once
millions of teenagers get used to learning, interacting and connecting
via Shustorovich's proprietary system, then what need will this and
future generations have for social networks such as Facebook?
"Facebook is Facebook," he says. "But adding a social network on top
of the [educational platform] will be very easy."

The project is known as "elektronnij obrazovatelnij komplex" or E-OK,
which translated literally means "electronic educational system". E-OK
itself refers to the group of patents the company behind the scheme
has secured in Russia (pending elsewhere) for cloud-based educational
services. The devices used in the experiment were designed and built
by the now-defunct enTourage Systems, based in McLean, Virginia, and
marketed as enTourage eDGe -- "the world's first dualbook". Designed
to be kid-proof, the device features interconnected dual touchscreens
that open and shut like a book. The right-hand screen is a touch- or
stylus-sensitive e-ink display for reading and writing, and the other
is a colour LCD touchscreen for web access and video viewing. Its
operating system is Linux with Google Android.

Unlike other electronic classroom aids, E-OK isn't designed merely to
complement books and desktop PCs, but to replace everything a pupil
uses to study. Connected wirelessly (and soon via 4G) to the school's
year-six and -seven curricula -- with years five and eight due to be
added shortly -- the devices aim to reboot how children learn,
teachers teach and principals run schools. By gathering data from
classroom test scores, exam results and attendance records alongside
statistics from mandatory school medical checks and even food ordered
by the catering staff, the system creates a real-time data chain which
loops from individual schools, through regional hubs, to the Ministry
of Education -- right up to the Kremlin. Last June, prime minister
Vladimir Putin signed a directive ordering Russia's ministers of
education and communications to evaluate and report to him personally.
Both ministers have since reported back "favourably", says
Shustorovich, speaking in support of E-OK's implementation in schools.

6C's teacher, Irene Razuvaeva, introduces Sergei, father to Anastasia,
one of her students. The device enables parents to monitor all of
their child's in-class activities, from test scores to pages or videos
viewed. "You have control," says Sergei, through a translator. "Also,

Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi and Siemens working together.and more

[Corey Hahn]

Robert,

Did you have any info on GE/Siemens working on S-CO2?  I am very interested.

Corey

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Robert Lynn  wrote:

> That was my initial reaction too.  But recuperated transcritical CO2
> Brayton can hit up to about 70-75% of Carnot efficiency (higher at higher
> temperatures due to basically fixed temperature difference in
> recuperation), and is actually more efficient than a practical Stirling can
> manage (Stirling is only about 60-65% of Carnot at very best).
>
> Assuming 310K cold end (CO2 critical point is 304K) and 524K hot end the
> Carnot efficiency would be 41%, and 70% of that would be 29%.  So 30%
> efficiency is within the realms of possiblity.
>
> All the big players like Siemens, GE etc are busy developing CO2 power
> plant machinery because it is more efficient, more compact, much cheaper
> and can withstand higher temperatures without the corrosion issues of steam.
>
>
> On 27 February 2012 04:42, James Bowery  wrote:
>
>> Can't be.  Rossi's inlet temperature is 524K.  With an outlet temperature
>> at 373K (100C) the maximum Carnot efficiency is only 29%.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Alan Fletcher  wrote:
>>
>>> SST-040 looks a good candidate : 300kW from 1MW
>>>
>>> http://www.energy.siemens.com/hq/en/power-generation/steam-turbines/sst-040.htm
>>>
>>> The newly developed predesigned steam turbine SST-040 is a generator
>>> drive specially designed for the 75-300 kW power range. This favorably
>>> priced turbine features a simple, extremely compact design, short start-up
>>> times and a high degree of operational reliability.
>>>
>>> Application area of  the SST-040:
>>>
>>>* Waste-heat recovery  e.g. behind gas engines and biogas engines
>>>* Small CHP plants
>>>* Decentralized solar facilities
>>>
>>> Inlet pressure  2 up to 40 bar (a)
>>> Inlet temperature   dry saturated steam up to 400 °C
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> > From: "Robert Lynn" 
>>> > This might be possible with supercritical CO2, though not in sizes
>>> > less than about 100kW. Most definitely not steam
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:read UFO myths Conspiracies and Realities by John B Alexander

[Andre Blum]

Frank,

Now that you have discovered e-book reading, I highly recommend you, and 
others who don't have one, to get an e-ink based e-book reader, like the 
amazon kindle. I was an early adopter years ago, when I paid EUR600 for 
one of the first of these devices, which broke half a year later in a 
way that was not covered by warranty. It took me a while to try a new 
one after that.


Nowadays the kindle 4 is about the price of a better old fashioned paper 
book. No need to buy anything more advanced than the cheapest ($79 in 
the US, $109 for the international version which does not have the 
advertisements as screen saver).


You will love the e-ink display, which reads like paper, in sunlight as 
well as in house. It lasts for weeks on a single charge. They are super 
light and can hold about 1500 books or more. They have a WiFi connection 
and books you order at Amazon will automatically be downloaded on them. 
If you have several, like I have in my house, your read position in the 
book will be synchronized, allowing you to continue where you had left.


However: they are less suited for books you want to flip around in, or 
heavily illustrated books. Use them for books you want to read from 
cover to cover.


Andre



On 02/27/2012 04:30 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
The book was recommend by someone from this group, thanks.  I was able 
to download Kindle from Amazon for free on
my lap top.  The book was then cheep, easy to download, was well 
written,  and worth reading.


Conclusions

Some things were seen by credible witnesses.  The results were 
not reproducible.

Many things were saw by nuts.
Earthly technology emerged from man through a well documented path. 
 No alien infusion was needed.
No government conspiracy.   The govt is busy governing and is not 
interested in following UFO reports.
No hidden energy or propulsion technologies.  If we had it we would be 
using it.


Point I disagree on was that the Phoenix lights were a real 
unexplained argument.  I saw on TV the lights blinking out on a
video of that night.  It was later superimposed on a daylight image 
from the same spot.  The composite clearly showed

flares moving behind the mountains as a cause of the lights blinking out.

This was my first e-book reading and it went well on my lap top. 
 Someday I may write one to follow up on my book

Elementary Antrgravity 1989.  My first book is really out of date.

Frank Znidarsic

[Vo]:Defkalion Site Back

[Terry Blanton]

http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&p=6755#p6755


Strangely quiet on the Defkalion front
Author  Message
rats123 
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:39 pm


Joined: Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:00 pm
Posts: 71   
We have not heard anything about any testing. What's going on?



Re: Strangely quiet on the Defkalion front
Engineer
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:42 pm


Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:07 am
Posts: 95   

It's probably someone like NASA's Glenn Research Center (after all
they did visit that other guy). They are probably getting WOWed and
drinking ouzo and eating kokoretsi. They will return to Ohio and write
their report and we will all eventually hear about it.

(Ever had baklava and retsina? Great combo!)

No video of the test; but, we have some post-test celebration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zxK6JuFLFg

(I think the guy in the jacket and tie looks like Dennis Bushnell!)

Re: [Vo]:The Smith LENR Prize

[Alan J Fletcher]

Dick Smith

Reply 
February 25, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Tom
Your proposed testing protocols seem pretty tough to me.
In fact I do not need to be involved in approving the testing method as I
have complete trust in the major world science institutions.
They can sign a dozen NDAs are far as I am concerned. I will pay out on
their public announcement .I do not require them to reveal any commercial
secrets !
And there is no need to apply.  If any of the approved organizations
-( list to come after more suggestions) makes an announcement within the
12 month time period I will offer the $1 million . If they ( or the
inventor) refuse to accept I will pay the money to The Salvation Army in
Australia or another deserving charity that helps families in
stress.
If no approved organization makes the announcement no money will be paid
out.
The announcement required could be similar to the following
” the # organization today announces that following required testing
that it is accepted that useful and practical power is available from
LENRs from a unit designed by xx and producing a minimum of 1KW
through LENRs . It is accepted that this major announcement will change
the worlds energy problems as we know them today. Our organization is
proud to have been involved in gaining the acceptable scientific proof
that LENRs are not only proven to provide useful power in the KW levels
but also can provide the useable energy at substantially lower cost.
             
         Signed.   Z. Chief
scientist.”
And before some start abusing me about the wording giving me some kind of
“out”  I point out again that this is just my first
suggestion.

Dick Smith

Reply 
February 26, 2012 at 1:24 am
Administrator. 
Thanks for your suggestion re a formal offer.
I am now working on a separate website to be set up with all
the details of the offer.
This will take a little while.
Already there have been suggestions that the money should not go to an
individual but to the organisation that does the testing and makes the
first announcement.  They can then make the decision as to where the
money is allocated. Hopefully to further research in the LENR field. I
would support this idea.
Exciting times!

Dick Smith

Reply 
February 26, 2012 at 11:25 pm
All fascinating. But what has happened re the Defkalion testing?
Especially the names of the government representatives involved.
What’s the bet they can delay this for another 6-12 weeks without actual
names being released (because they have no intention of having official
Government representatives involved in any way) while many who post on
this site will accept all the reasons they give!
In the meantime. More and more money raised!
- - - - - - - -
... quite a long discussion with DS ...
- - - -

Dick Smith

Reply 
February 27, 2012 at 10:20 am
And I did not approach with a made up mind.
I originally thought a very small chance it could be true.
But the rejection of the $1 m offer certainly confirmed it for me!
Plus all the other info I have learnt since then.

Dick Smith

Reply 
February 27, 2012 at 10:43 am
The best may to protect investors is to get the facts in the major world
media outlets
I am working on that.

Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi and Siemens working together.and more

[James Bowery]

My response was to Fletcher's suggestion.  Note, I didn't say "Can't be."
in response to _your_ post. ;)

I agree.  CO2 is most likely.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Robert Lynn  wrote:

> That was my initial reaction too.  But recuperated transcritical CO2
> Brayton can hit up to about 70-75% of Carnot efficiency (higher at higher
> temperatures due to basically fixed temperature difference in
> recuperation), and is actually more efficient than a practical Stirling can
> manage (Stirling is only about 60-65% of Carnot at very best).
>
> Assuming 310K cold end (CO2 critical point is 304K) and 524K hot end the
> Carnot efficiency would be 41%, and 70% of that would be 29%.  So 30%
> efficiency is within the realms of possiblity.
>
> All the big players like Siemens, GE etc are busy developing CO2 power
> plant machinery because it is more efficient, more compact, much cheaper
> and can withstand higher temperatures without the corrosion issues of steam.
>
>
> On 27 February 2012 04:42, James Bowery  wrote:
>
>> Can't be.  Rossi's inlet temperature is 524K.  With an outlet temperature
>> at 373K (100C) the maximum Carnot efficiency is only 29%.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Alan Fletcher  wrote:
>>
>>> SST-040 looks a good candidate : 300kW from 1MW
>>>
>>> http://www.energy.siemens.com/hq/en/power-generation/steam-turbines/sst-040.htm
>>>
>>> The newly developed predesigned steam turbine SST-040 is a generator
>>> drive specially designed for the 75-300 kW power range. This favorably
>>> priced turbine features a simple, extremely compact design, short start-up
>>> times and a high degree of operational reliability.
>>>
>>> Application area of  the SST-040:
>>>
>>>* Waste-heat recovery  e.g. behind gas engines and biogas engines
>>>* Small CHP plants
>>>* Decentralized solar facilities
>>>
>>> Inlet pressure  2 up to 40 bar (a)
>>> Inlet temperature   dry saturated steam up to 400 °C
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> > From: "Robert Lynn" 
>>> > This might be possible with supercritical CO2, though not in sizes
>>> > less than about 100kW. Most definitely not steam
>>>
>>>
>>
>

[Vo]:read UFO myths Conspiracies and Realities by John B Alexander

[fznidarsic]

The book was recommend by someone from this group, thanks.  I was able to 
download Kindle from Amazon for free on
my lap top.  The book was then cheep, easy to download, was well written,  and 
worth reading.


Conclusions


Some things were seen by credible witnesses.  The results were not reproducible.
Many things were saw by nuts.  
Earthly technology emerged from man through a well documented path.  No alien 
infusion was needed.
No government conspiracy.   The govt is busy governing and is not interested in 
following UFO reports.
No hidden energy or propulsion technologies.  If we had it we would be using it.


Point I disagree on was that the Phoenix lights were a real unexplained 
argument.  I saw on TV the lights blinking out on a 
video of that night.  It was later superimposed on a daylight image from the 
same spot.  The composite clearly showed
flares moving behind the mountains as a cause of the lights blinking out.


This was my first e-book reading and it went well on my lap top.  Someday I may 
write one to follow up on my book
Elementary Antrgravity 1989.  My first book is really out of date.


Frank Znidarsic

Re: [Vo]:"The Keel," Nickel power, and Sunspots

[integral.property.serv...@gmail.com]

Jones.

FYI:  " And if we add another piece to the puzzle, remember that a 
curious character who writes about JONP (W. Guglinski), which according 
to some items found in a theoretical way the catalyst for Rossi, 
suggests that the excess heat of LENR (currently unexplained ) are to be 
connected to the "mysterious" solar particle 
(http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516&cpage=8 # 
comment-109171) ... ma qui siamo ovviamente nel campo delle pure 
ipotesi. but here we are obviously in the field of pure hypothesis."


http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=/language_tools&u=http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/11/essere-favore-delle-cat-e-favore-della.html

Suggest you read Guglinski's book. Quantum Ring Tneory, 2006.

Warm Regards,

Reality

Jones Beene wrote:

Most readers on this list are more concerned with anomalous energy on earth
than astrophysics. We pay attention to solar energy as a clean alternative -
and to solar sunspots as a general areas of interest - but hardly ever do we
consider an interconnectivity of solar activity to LENR in hidden ways.
Could solar activity (sunspots) have a noticeable effect on experiments on
earth, unrelated to photon emission, especially where the probability of
success of the experiment is low. Neutrino periodicity is an example of an
unseen, non-photonic influence.

An LENR experiment that is positive 10% of the time may go relatively
unnoticed, but if positive 60% of the time we get excited. That kind of
thing could be relevant. We know that an approximate 11 year cycle of peak
activity exists in sunspots. Even if there is no other influence from a star
like eta Carina -it is worth noting that there is at least one cyclical
coincidence at work. Did you know that Solar emission of RF at 127 MHz has
being monitored at since 1958 and is found to follow the same 11 year cycle?
This means nothing specific, but is suggestive of cyclical emissions that
are completely unaccounted for.

The P&F announcement in 1989 was never tied to solar activity nor was
Rossi's first public experiment 22 years later. But the fact that these two
were two solar cycles apart should not be completely overlooked

It would be interesting to know if there was a surge of successful reports
in 2000-2001. A quick scan of LENR-CANR shows 483 hits for year 2000 and
only 321 for 1999. This is meaningless really, since other factors are not
eliminated, but the point is that sun cycles could play a unappreciated role
in LENR.

... or not ...

From: Mauro Lacy   


Well, here are the graphs:
http://maurol.com.ar/solar_cycle

The data was obtained from
http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/greenwch. I used the daily sunspot area as
an indicator of solar activity.
The method used is an estimate of power
spectral density by the Welch (1967) periodogram/FFT method, which is
readily available, by example in octave or Matlab. I had to do some manual
preprocessing of the data, and after fiddling for a relatively long time
with the scales, I finally began to obtain some meaningful values.

As can be seen in
http://maurol.com.ar/solar_cycle/daily_area-PSD3.png, there are two peaks
near Eta Carinae's period (5.539 years) of dimming X-ray activity , at 5.51
and 5.3 years. They are both much less significant than the main period of
the solar cycle (which by the way, seems to be actually near 10.6 years, not
11.04 years as usually stated), and there's is not a period of exactly 5.539
years, but they are close nevertheless. That is, there are (secondary)
periods of the solar system not in, but closer, to 5.539.
I obtained 5.539 years from the literature.
This site in particular was very helpful: http://etacar.umn.edu/

Regarding these results, I suppose you take
it or leave it. I mean, they really aren't that significant. But if you take
it, there are some interesting things to try:
1) smooth/consolidate the periodograms, to
try to obtain less noise, and higher peaks.
2) look for north hemisphere vs. south
hemisphere cycles. As Eta Car is south, maybe the periods in the south
hemisphere are closer to Eta Car's period. I'll do this next.
3) look for phase, not only frequency,
correlations. I have yet to learn how to do statistical phase analysis.

I hope you enjoy the pictures! If there are
some people interested, I can publish the scripts and techniques I used to
obtain the graphs. It really wasn't that difficult.

Best regards,
   

Re: [Vo]:Re: stremmenos on interview with haglestein, theory, ni+H developpement (indirectly rossi DGT)

[Axil Axil]

[quote]The intuition of Rossi (but his, Stremmenos too) to use Ni powder
instead of Ni rods as stubbornly insisted Piantelli (trying to optimize the
effect with adequate geometric forms) was based on the simple observation
that transmutations take place only on the surface- ergo for increasing
these effects clearly nuclear we have to increase the surface we have use
powders of Ni or of some other transition metals konown to give the cold
fusion effect due to their common crystalline structure.[endquote]



Some believe that it is the surface preparation of the Rossi
micro-particles that cause transmutations to occur on the surface of the
micro-powder.



But in the Piantelli experiments, there is no micro-cavity surface
preparation and transmutation still is restricted to the surface of the
bulk material. The reaction rate of the Piantelli experiments is
proportional to the surface area of the bulk material used.



One way to explain the exclusivity of transmutations on the surface of the
nickel powder/bar is that a powerful electrostatic field is projected onto
the surface of the metal which provides a coulomb barrier screening
mechanism directly to the top layers of the nickel atoms on the surface of
the metal. This electrostatic field does not penetrate into the bulk of the
micro powder which explains why transmutation to copper does not occur in
the interior bulk of the powder.



The source of this electric field is the coherent and highly polarized
Rydberg molecules/crystals that float near the surface of the nickel.



This dipole field is very powerful with a strength that can exceed
1,000,000,000,000 times the dipole strength of a hydrogen atom in the
ground state.



This power is provided by a 1000 atom crystal at a principle quantum
excitation number of 100.


















On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Peter Gluck  wrote:

> a fast translation,dear Alain
>
>  Peter Hagelstein says he thinks  that Rossi’s generator is derived from
> that of Piantelli. If that is true than his (Peter’s) physical models
> developed for Pd-D are seeming to reproduce well for what is observed for
> Ni-H systems.
>
>
>
>
>
> Stremmenos strongly disagrees says Rossi has realizws a huge increase of
> the energy produced but also has contributed much
>
> at a qualitative  level with the using of Ni powders and with the addition
> of the catalyst which he keeps secret in  justified mode.
>
>
>
> The intuition of Rossi (but his, Stremmenos too) to use Ni powder instead
> of Ni rods as stubbornly insisted Piantelli (trying to optimize the effect
> with adequate geometric forms) was based on the simple observation that
> transmutations take place only on the surface- ergo for increasing these
> effects clearly nuclear we have to increase the surface we have use powders
> of Ni or of some other transition metals konown to give the cold fusion
> effect due to their common crystalline structure.
>
>
>
> Rossi  has had also the intuition that the low energetic yields (5-15
> Watts) for all the CF experiments are due to the low concentration of
> atomic hydrogen which easily solves and interacts with the metal. H2, D2
> molecular hydrogen or deuterium were  dominating and these are extremely
> stable and insoluble both at the temperatures of the processes-
> electrolytic or diffusive (start to dissociate only above 2100C)- in my
> opinion, introducing a chemical catalyst (?) that lowers the dissociation
> temperature you obtain plenty of atomic hydrogen that easily interacts with
> Ni.
>
>
>
> For the discussion of other ideas and results coming (with a delay of at
> least 15 years from the “prestigious MIT” via Prof Hagelstein
>
> I want to discuss about a) results coming not from the rich means of MIT
> but from the more modest of UniBo b) experimental  results of spectroscopic
> measurements (Raman) of interest for Hagelstein as author of theories is
> interested to study in depth for a confrontation of his opinion with mine-
> that is only an opinion of an experimental physicist.
>
>
>
> N. T what he says about Piantelli is not true, the last paragraph
> is not clear even in Greek – but it says something like “you can be smart
> but I am even smarter
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote:
>
>> just to add that this text from stremmenos seems linked to artcile
>> by hagelstein , that also need to be translated(better than by MS or
>> google translator)
>>
>> http://22passi.blogspot.com/2012/02/peter-hagelstein-sulla-fusione-fredda.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed
>>
>>
>> http://22passi.blogspot.com/2012/02/peter-hagelstein-sulla-fusione-fredda_24.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed
>>
>>
>> 2012/2/25 Alain Sepeda 
>>
>>> an article about an open letter by stremmenos after
>>> a talk with Hagelstein.
>>> talk about the way the theory proposed by focardi make
>>> possible the developpemet of Ni+H reactors like rossi or DGT...
>>>
>>> http://22passi.blogspot.com/2012/02/stremmenos-int

Re: [Vo]:Speculation: Where is Rossi allegedly manufacturing his eCats?

[OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson]

>From Susan,

> I can't believe how so many people are still after Rossi's tales, puzzling
> about customers, factories, partners, certifications, patents and so on.
> Here a hint about Rossi's ecat factory location.
> Enjoy :)

http://www.santa.net/help-elves-make-toys/

I enjoyed the Santa tour.

Have you posted your opinion of where Rossi's factory is most likely
located over at Krivit's site? You will make Krivit's day.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Speculation: Where is Rossi allegedly manufacturing his eCats?

[Susanna Gipp]

I can't believe how so many people are still after Rossi's tales, puzzling
about customers, factories, partners, certifications, patents and so on.
Here a hint about Rossi's ecat
factorylocation.
Enjoy :)

2012/2/27 ecat builder 

> I enjoy speculation... Since http://defkalion-energy.com/ is offline
> and news is quiet...
>
> Since Rossi can be removed from his position of CEO by the Leonardo
> board of directors, it means that Rossi has sold a majority of his
> company shares in exchange for cash, talent, and other business
> assets.
>
> The purchasing of Leonardo shares may have been done through one or
> more companies or a venture capital group. Rossi suggests it is a
> single company that has a business presence that might be narrowed
> down by revealing which state the factory will be located in. I think
> East Coast is probable.
>
> The size of the deal would have to be pretty large if Rossi has a
> convincing demo. I'd say the market cap of a business buying Leonardo
> would have a market cap over 5B and is probably a Fortune 1000 (or
> Global 500) company. My guess is Energy sector, other than oil... or
> aerospace...  GE? LMT, SI... Interesting to speculate how a company
> like GOOG or AAPL could make a go of it.
>
> - Brad
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Wired Magazine- Cold Fusion, NASA, CERN, DARPA....

[OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson]

>From Kita:

> http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-02/27/rossi-roundup

Oops! I see you already posted this info!

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Speculation: Where is Rossi allegedly manufacturing his eCats?

[ecat builder]

I enjoy speculation... Since http://defkalion-energy.com/ is offline
and news is quiet...

Since Rossi can be removed from his position of CEO by the Leonardo
board of directors, it means that Rossi has sold a majority of his
company shares in exchange for cash, talent, and other business
assets.

The purchasing of Leonardo shares may have been done through one or
more companies or a venture capital group. Rossi suggests it is a
single company that has a business presence that might be narrowed
down by revealing which state the factory will be located in. I think
East Coast is probable.

The size of the deal would have to be pretty large if Rossi has a
convincing demo. I'd say the market cap of a business buying Leonardo
would have a market cap over 5B and is probably a Fortune 1000 (or
Global 500) company. My guess is Energy sector, other than oil... or
aerospace...  GE? LMT, SI... Interesting to speculate how a company
like GOOG or AAPL could make a go of it.

- Brad

[Vo]:Wired Magazine- Cold Fusion, NASA, CERN, DARPA....

[Ron Kita]

Greetings Vortex,

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-02/27/rossi-roundup

Respectfully,
Ron Kita, Chiralex
Doylestown, PA

Re: [Vo]:Speculation: Where is Rossi allegedly manufacturing his eCats?

[Andre Blum]

I would say Florida, as Rossi has repeatedly said so.
If I am not mistaking he also said once that he was negotioting for a 
second in massachusets, but now he says there is only one.


Andre



On 02/27/2012 11:01 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:

Frank Acland, from E-Cat World, interviewed Rossi by phone back on Feb
25. We learned Rossi plans on manufacturing his e-Cats within an
undisclosed location within the United States.

http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/02/rossi-siemens-ag-helping-with-leonardo-corp-with-efficient-electricity-generation/

http://tinyurl.com/7wmjt3z

Excerpts:


The Investor’s Trust

Rossi explained that the investors in the trust did not wish
to have their identities made public. He did acknowledge that
as CEO of Leonardo Corporation while he is still in a position
to make decisions, he is accountable now to a new entity, and
that every day he has to prove his merit as a CEO.

Leonardo now has the funds to meet current needs. The design
and testing of the E-Cat are complete and now the focus is on
building the production line for the factory. They are
currently building only one factory in the United States–
location is unnamed. I asked if there were plans to build
factories in other countries, but he said that they are
planning for US manufacturing plants only.

I would speculate that the factory may be located in within state of
Massachusetts. This is based on the fact that Rossi visited
Massachusetts back in November of last year in an effort to look for a
place to manufacture his eCats.

Seems like a logical conclusion for me to draw! ;-)

http://bostonglobe.com/business/2011/11/28/hope-skepticism-for-cold-fusion/w7FgGyI9Zx432chxuD5BEL/story.html

http://tinyurl.com/6nonuvp

Feel free to add your own speculation, and why.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi and Siemens working together.and more

[fznidarsic]

I was an Electrical Engineer in a large power plant.  If I inquired sales men 
would arrive from companies big and small and attempt to sell us something.  
That did not mean we were working together on a joint venture.



-Original Message-
From: Corey Hahn 
To: vortex-l 
Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2012 8:33 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi and Siemens working together.and more


Robert said:
"
All the big players like Siemens, GE etc are busy developing CO2 power plant 
machinery because it is more efficient, more compact, much cheaper and can 
withstand higher temperatures without the corrosion issues of steam.
"


Do you have any evidence of this?  I have been looking for confirmation they 
have jumped on this bandwagon, but so far have come up empty.




On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Robert Lynn  
wrote:

That was my initial reaction too.  But recuperated transcritical CO2 Brayton 
can hit up to about 70-75% of Carnot efficiency (higher at higher temperatures 
due to basically fixed temperature difference in recuperation), and is actually 
more efficient than a practical Stirling can manage (Stirling is only about 
60-65% of Carnot at very best).


Assuming 310K cold end (CO2 critical point is 304K) and 524K hot end the Carnot 
efficiency would be 41%, and 70% of that would be 29%.  So 30% efficiency is 
within the realms of possiblity.


All the big players like Siemens, GE etc are busy developing CO2 power plant 
machinery because it is more efficient, more compact, much cheaper and can 
withstand higher temperatures without the corrosion issues of steam.



On 27 February 2012 04:42, James Bowery  wrote:

Can't be.  Rossi's inlet temperature is 524K.  With an outlet temperature at 
373K (100C) the maximum Carnot efficiency is only 29%.



On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Alan Fletcher  wrote:

SST-040 looks a good candidate : 300kW from 1MW
http://www.energy.siemens.com/hq/en/power-generation/steam-turbines/sst-040.htm

The newly developed predesigned steam turbine SST-040 is a generator drive 
specially designed for the 75-300 kW power range. This favorably priced turbine 
features a simple, extremely compact design, short start-up times and a high 
degree of operational reliability.

Application area of  the SST-040:

* Waste-heat recovery  e.g. behind gas engines and biogas engines
* Small CHP plants
* Decentralized solar facilities

Inlet pressure  2 up to 40 bar (a)
Inlet temperature   dry saturated steam up to 400 °C


- Original Message -
> From: "Robert Lynn" 
> This might be possible with supercritical CO2, though not in sizes
> less than about 100kW. Most definitely not steam












 

Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi and Siemens working together.and more

[Corey Hahn]

Robert said:
"
All the big players like Siemens, GE etc are busy developing CO2 power
plant machinery because it is more efficient, more compact, much cheaper
and can withstand higher temperatures without the corrosion issues of steam.
"

Do you have any evidence of this?  I have been looking for confirmation
they have jumped on this bandwagon, but so far have come up empty.


On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Robert Lynn  wrote:

> That was my initial reaction too.  But recuperated transcritical CO2
> Brayton can hit up to about 70-75% of Carnot efficiency (higher at higher
> temperatures due to basically fixed temperature difference in
> recuperation), and is actually more efficient than a practical Stirling can
> manage (Stirling is only about 60-65% of Carnot at very best).
>
> Assuming 310K cold end (CO2 critical point is 304K) and 524K hot end the
> Carnot efficiency would be 41%, and 70% of that would be 29%.  So 30%
> efficiency is within the realms of possiblity.
>
> All the big players like Siemens, GE etc are busy developing CO2 power
> plant machinery because it is more efficient, more compact, much cheaper
> and can withstand higher temperatures without the corrosion issues of steam.
>
>
> On 27 February 2012 04:42, James Bowery  wrote:
>
>> Can't be.  Rossi's inlet temperature is 524K.  With an outlet temperature
>> at 373K (100C) the maximum Carnot efficiency is only 29%.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Alan Fletcher  wrote:
>>
>>> SST-040 looks a good candidate : 300kW from 1MW
>>>
>>> http://www.energy.siemens.com/hq/en/power-generation/steam-turbines/sst-040.htm
>>>
>>> The newly developed predesigned steam turbine SST-040 is a generator
>>> drive specially designed for the 75-300 kW power range. This favorably
>>> priced turbine features a simple, extremely compact design, short start-up
>>> times and a high degree of operational reliability.
>>>
>>> Application area of  the SST-040:
>>>
>>>* Waste-heat recovery  e.g. behind gas engines and biogas engines
>>>* Small CHP plants
>>>* Decentralized solar facilities
>>>
>>> Inlet pressure  2 up to 40 bar (a)
>>> Inlet temperature   dry saturated steam up to 400 °C
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> > From: "Robert Lynn" 
>>> > This might be possible with supercritical CO2, though not in sizes
>>> > less than about 100kW. Most definitely not steam
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:"The Keel," Nickel power, and Sunspots

[Mauro Lacy]

On 02/26/2012 06:58 PM, Jones Beene wrote:

Most readers on this list are more concerned with anomalous energy on earth
than astrophysics. We pay attention to solar energy as a clean alternative -
and to solar sunspots as a general areas of interest - but hardly ever do we
consider an interconnectivity of solar activity to LENR in hidden ways.
Could solar activity (sunspots) have a noticeable effect on experiments on
earth, unrelated to photon emission, especially where the probability of
success of the experiment is low. Neutrino periodicity is an example of an
unseen, non-photonic influence.

An LENR experiment that is positive 10% of the time may go relatively
unnoticed, but if positive 60% of the time we get excited. That kind of
thing could be relevant. We know that an approximate 11 year cycle of peak
activity exists in sunspots. Even if there is no other influence from a star
like eta Carina -it is worth noting that there is at least one cyclical
coincidence at work. Did you know that Solar emission of RF at 127 MHz has
being monitored at since 1958 and is found to follow the same 11 year cycle?
This means nothing specific, but is suggestive of cyclical emissions that
are completely unaccounted for.

The P&F announcement in 1989 was never tied to solar activity nor was
Rossi's first public experiment 22 years later. But the fact that these two
were two solar cycles apart should not be completely overlooked

It would be interesting to know if there was a surge of successful reports
in 2000-2001. A quick scan of LENR-CANR shows 483 hits for year 2000 and
only 321 for 1999. This is meaningless really, since other factors are not
eliminated, but the point is that sun cycles could play a unappreciated role
in LENR.
   


Again, that's an interesting hypothesis, Jones.
I suggested a number of times in the past that cosmic phenomena may take 
a part in LENR. Jed even pointed to a workshop mentioning daily changes 
in LENR experiments:

http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg39993.html

Maybe a quantitative analysis of the correlation between solar activity 
and successful LENR experiments can be carried on. To compile all the 
data looks like a difficult and tedious task, but the analysis of 
cross-correlation between the two datasets can be carried on 
quantitatively, by using mathematical techniques, and qualitatively, by 
visual inspection. The quantitative approach gives a numerical 
estimation of cross-correlation, which is something very valuable.


The dataset should ideally include a quantitative indicator, like number 
of watts produced, although it can be difficult to normalize it. Maybe 
by taking into account the dimensions of the experiment, or of the 
active components.
Maybe the set of unsuccessful experiments can also be taken into 
account. Although they will undoubtedly be noisier, and will lack a 
clear quantitative indicator, the should be relatively anti-correlated 
if the hypothesis is correct.




... or not ...
   


Of course, that's always a possibility.
Regards,
Mauro

Re: [Vo]:FTL Neutrinos a Loose Connection

[David Jonsson]

Thier choise of Sagnac effect instead of Lorentz contraction is in itself a
very interesting choice. How come they did so when the founders of
relativity did the opposite?

David

David Jonsson, Sweden, phone callto:+46703000370



On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:53 AM, Terry Blanton  wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Robert 
> wrote:
> > But in an effort to eliminate many arguments re: relativistic
> miscalculations of satellite orbits, I thought they conducted additional
> experiments using synched atomic clocks in lieu of GPS satellites.
> >
> > Did the atomic clocks feed the same HSSL cards over the same fiber link?
>
> I would think that these scientists would recognize the commonality of
> the link before making such an embarrassing announcement
>
> BTW, Happy Engineers' Week!
>
> T
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi and Siemens working together.and more

[Robert Lynn]

That was my initial reaction too.  But recuperated transcritical CO2
Brayton can hit up to about 70-75% of Carnot efficiency (higher at higher
temperatures due to basically fixed temperature difference in
recuperation), and is actually more efficient than a practical Stirling can
manage (Stirling is only about 60-65% of Carnot at very best).

Assuming 310K cold end (CO2 critical point is 304K) and 524K hot end the
Carnot efficiency would be 41%, and 70% of that would be 29%.  So 30%
efficiency is within the realms of possiblity.

All the big players like Siemens, GE etc are busy developing CO2 power
plant machinery because it is more efficient, more compact, much cheaper
and can withstand higher temperatures without the corrosion issues of steam.

On 27 February 2012 04:42, James Bowery  wrote:

> Can't be.  Rossi's inlet temperature is 524K.  With an outlet temperature
> at 373K (100C) the maximum Carnot efficiency is only 29%.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Alan Fletcher  wrote:
>
>> SST-040 looks a good candidate : 300kW from 1MW
>>
>> http://www.energy.siemens.com/hq/en/power-generation/steam-turbines/sst-040.htm
>>
>> The newly developed predesigned steam turbine SST-040 is a generator
>> drive specially designed for the 75-300 kW power range. This favorably
>> priced turbine features a simple, extremely compact design, short start-up
>> times and a high degree of operational reliability.
>>
>> Application area of  the SST-040:
>>
>>* Waste-heat recovery  e.g. behind gas engines and biogas engines
>>* Small CHP plants
>>* Decentralized solar facilities
>>
>> Inlet pressure  2 up to 40 bar (a)
>> Inlet temperature   dry saturated steam up to 400 °C
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> > From: "Robert Lynn" 
>> > This might be possible with supercritical CO2, though not in sizes
>> > less than about 100kW. Most definitely not steam
>>
>>
>