[Vo]:LENR (the RvD dispute) is playing chess or poker?
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2017/02/feb-04-2017-lenr-playing-chess-or-poker.html peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
RE: [Vo]:I calculated his power output from his own data. It isveryexciting and he may have something real that he is blundering with.Seebelow.
Higgins-- A key question is what constitutes “Intellectual Property” legally. The IP identified in the contract did not spell out the “art” of operating a plant built in accordance with the design described in the patent and the other documents listed in the contract that were transferred to IH. And furthermore there was no requirement for Rossi to relate to IH everything he kept in his head, undocumented. For example his ideas about further development of the Quark-X invention. I thought at the time when the miracles that the Quark-X was demonstrating per the reactor operators was what caused IH to have second thoughts as to the worth of the technology represented by the E-Cat really was in light of potential competition from the Quark-X in the future. Nowhere that I know of was Rossi obligated to transfer his future inventions and related IP to IH. The E-Cat control system, to my knowledge, has not been specified very well. IMHO the control system operation requires substantial “art” involving a complex integration of various parameters that Rossi has not documented, but has come to be able to manipulate in an effective way by trial and error learning, which he has kept to himself. (The science of Rossi’s Ni-H LENR+ would be revealed by how control is accomplished.) Is this undocumented “art” required to be taught to IH by the contract? I could not find such a requirement in the contract. I think the reason for the absence of such a requirement was IH’s lack of understanding as to the LENR technology, not unexpected from a venture capitalist with a minimum of technical staff on hand to advise as to technical provisions in the contract. Due diligence may not have been accomplished by IH. Bob Cook From: Bob Higgins Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 3:53 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:I calculated his power output from his own data. It isveryexciting and he may have something real that he is blundering with.Seebelow. Perhaps someone could remind me of the terms of the GPT. I thought I remembered that the GPT had to achieve at least a COP>=4 for 250 days continuously. I don't think it required anything like the 1 MW output. Perhaps Rossi created the 1MW array of devices as a "reactor" to give himself the flexibility under computer control to swap out non-functional or marginally-functional units so as to maintain his COP over the reliability period. That would be a shrewd way of maintaining his claim of continuous reliability. So, not making 1MW is not a problem for the GPT (I think). Even having a COP << than what was reported is not a problem, as long as it is found to have a COP of at least the minimum requirement of the GPT. The very high reported COP could be a ruse to have the real, much lower COP (but greater than the GPT requirement), come out by independent analysis as a surprise twist in the case. Perhaps the validity of the "customer" may be a sticky legal point, but it may be just a semantic and the court, particularly a jury, could overlook it. There is the other sticky point for Rossi - he has not lived up to his end of the bargain in usefully transferring the technology into IH so that they can make a product. That's what they paid $11M for. Technology transfer would seem to be a prerequisite to beginning the GPT. If Rossi is making a case for having a COP of at least 4 (to use that number for the GPT), how can he not have transferred that technology to IH before the GPT? Had he done this, everybody would be happy today. This is certain to weigh in a jury's decision.
[Vo]:Next projects
I have completed my restoration of my Radiola 3. My next project will be the app "Parrot Talk". It is an offshoot of my "Dreams Alarm Clock". It will be able to record a spoken clip such as "Polly wants a cracker!" and then set it to playback on 5, 10, 20, or 40 minute intervals. It is an aid to help you parrot to talk. People have been asking for such an app see the comment below. https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R13TH5F516AOH2/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00KVEKYJW After that I plan to drag out my cold fusion equipment with RF stimulation. I plan to try some silver materials as recommended by Jones. Frank Z
Re: [Vo]:I calculated his power output from his own data. It is veryexciting and he may have something real that he is blundering with. Seebelow.
>>>Just because I do not spoon-feed you examples of people who use the legal >>>system to steal and commit crimes, that does not mean they do not exist. Unfortunately the "people" that would say that a crime has been committed by the legal system would generally be the "people" that the legal system has judged guilty. Prison is supposedly full of innocent "people" that have been found guilty; at least that is what most of the "people" in jail would say. -- following the maxim: "they would say that wouldn't they". I can however tell you that based on my experience on jury service that I endorse the view that the "law is an ass." Most "people" who are street-wise would probably agree. Historically there are many interesting cases of injustice such as the Dreyfus affair, which had high profile; which makes one wonder how many injustices that get glossed over when they are low profile. On Saturday, 4 February 2017, 16:36, Jed Rothwell wrote: a.ashfield wrote: You are getting desperate if the Mafia is the only example you can come up with. There are plenty of other examples. You can do your own homework and find them. Just because I do not spoon-feed you examples of people who use the legal system to steal and commit crimes, that does not mean they do not exist. You can look, for example, at bankers who loan money to elderly people, and then sue to take their houses when they make a $0.27 error in a payment. Or they tell the elderly person that to have the rate adjusted lower, the person should skip a payment -- and when they do, the banker repossess. That's using the court system as an accessory to a crime. (Those techniques were perfected by our new Treasury Sec. Mnuchin, who made several hundred million dollars bilking elderly people.) News to me that Rossi goes around threatening physical harm to IH personnel. I did not say that. On the other hand, he did learn his techniques in Italy, where the Mafia and other gangs have a great deal of influence and power. I would say that leaving pollution in the ground that cost the local municipality 40 million euros to clean up is physical harm. As for Santilli, "It was then made clear to me (Film director John Jopson) that if the footage was exposed as a hoax before the show aired, the ratings would suffer." Beats me how you think that is Santilli taking a victim to court. He tried to take me to court! Gene Mallove had to spend tens of thousands of dollars to get rid of Santilli and his bloodsucking lawsuits. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:I calculated his power output from his own data. It is veryexciting and he may have something real that he is blundering with. Seebelow.
I think Jed and Jones are hopelessly deadlocked with A.A. and other Rossi fans. Neither side will yield or gain influence and it may be best to desist. Both sides cannot possibly understand each perspective. Changing the topic: I am close to completing a repetition of the 1996 Thermacore runaway reaction. This seems like an obvious application of chemical engineering and the experiment is straightforward. That result may solve a great many riddles in LENR. If it is successful, I expect Andrea Rossi and separately Randall Mills will claim full credit for an obvious result of their actions. Seebelow. AA On 2/3/2017 10:57 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: a.ashfield mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: I would have thought you could tell the difference between some one who has set up a long running fraud and someone trying to take advantage of the legal system who had no part in causing the problem. I asked you for one example of the former who has then taken the victim to court and you have not been able to find one. Santilli! And countless other con-men. Threatening a lawsuit is widely used by criminals, such as the Mafia in Italy. See: http://www.newsweek.com/italian-mafia-intimidating-journalists-worst-levels-violence-90s-306352 ". . . as well as the increase in mafia violence, defamation lawsuits are also to blame for the lack of journalistic freedom in Italy. "When a journalist knows that they could face a lawsuit between EUR5,000 and EUR60,000, they may have more of a tendency to self-censor . . ." - Jed
Re: [Vo]:I calculated his power output from his own data. It is veryexciting and he may have something real that he is blundering with. Seebelow.
a.ashfield wrote: > You are getting desperate if the Mafia is the only example you can come up > with. > There are plenty of other examples. You can do your own homework and find them. Just because I do not spoon-feed you examples of people who use the legal system to steal and commit crimes, that does not mean they do not exist. You can look, for example, at bankers who loan money to elderly people, and then sue to take their houses when they make a $0.27 error in a payment. Or they tell the elderly person that to have the rate adjusted lower, the person should skip a payment -- and when they do, the banker repossess. That's using the court system as an accessory to a crime. (Those techniques were perfected by our new Treasury Sec. Mnuchin, who made several hundred million dollars bilking elderly people.) > News to me that Rossi goes around threatening physical harm to IH > personnel. > I did not say that. On the other hand, he did learn his techniques in Italy, where the Mafia and other gangs have a great deal of influence and power. I would say that leaving pollution in the ground that cost the local municipality 40 million euros to clean up is physical harm. > As for Santilli, "It was then made clear to me (Film director John Jopson) > that if the footage was exposed as a hoax before the show aired, the > ratings would suffer." > Beats me how you think that is Santilli taking a victim to court. > He tried to take me to court! Gene Mallove had to spend tens of thousands of dollars to get rid of Santilli and his bloodsucking lawsuits. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:I calculated his power output from his own data. It is veryexciting and he may have something real that he is blundering with. Seebelow.
Jed, You are getting desperate if the Mafia is the only example you can come up with. News to me that Rossi goes around threatening physical harm to IH personnel. As for Santilli, "It was then made clear to me (Film director John Jopson) that if the footage was exposed as a hoax before the show aired, the ratings would suffer." Beats me how you think that is Santilli taking a victim to court. AA On 2/3/2017 10:57 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: a.ashfield mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net>> wrote: I would have thought you could tell the difference between some one who has set up a long running fraud and someone trying to take advantage of the legal system who had no part in causing the problem. I asked you for one example of the former who has then taken the victim to court and you have not been able to find one. Santilli! And countless other con-men. Threatening a lawsuit is widely used by criminals, such as the Mafia in Italy. See: http://www.newsweek.com/italian-mafia-intimidating-journalists-worst-levels-violence-90s-306352 ". . . as well as the increase in mafia violence, defamation lawsuits are also to blame for the lack of journalistic freedom in Italy. “When a journalist knows that they could face a lawsuit between €5,000 and €60,000, they may have more of a tendency to self-censor . . ." - Jed
