RE: [Vo]:Who knew? WHAT'S BIG MONEY REALLY UP TO?

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Jones—

Between his solar roof, his “relandable”  rocket, his battery factory and the 
electric auto, I would  be surprised he is not looking to the future.  He must 
be aware of LENR technology.  His technology successes only underline his 
capability at R

And establishment rules set up to limit science and R have not had a chance 
to surface as Federal laws and regulations.  Lets hope that the current lack of 
a united establishment in this country and the world remain disordered for at 
least two more decades.

As a mentor from the past would say—“NO FRICTION NO MOTION.”   Government 
turmoil is making plenty of friction these days.

We will see about Elon—this year IMHO.

Bob Cook

From: Jones Beene 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 12:58:04 PM
To: Vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Who knew? WHAT'S BIG MONEY REALLY UP TO?

Bob,

Toyota yes. Tesla, doubtful.

Other than Elon having what appears to be a magic touch, why do you think Tesla 
has ventured into LENR?

It is not is style, really. His past success has been perfecting known and 
low-risk technology, and he can't keep a secret very well.

bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote:

> I suspect that Toyota and Tesla already have their own reactors and will not 
> depend upon Mills,  Rossi or anyone else.  For Toyota when they sponsored 
> Ponds in France in the mid 90’s trade secrets were foremost.  They lost 
> Martin over this issue.

Re: [Vo]:Who knew? WHAT'S BIG MONEY REALLY UP TO?

[Jones Beene]

 Bob,
Toyota yes. Tesla, doubtful.
Other than Elon having what appears to be a magic touch, why do you think Tesla 
has ventured into LENR?
It is not is style, really. His past success has been perfecting known and 
low-risk technology, and he can't keep a secret very well.

   bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote:  
> I suspect that Toyota and Tesla already have their own reactors and will not 
> depend upon Mills,  Rossi or anyone else.  For Toyota when they sponsored 
> Ponds in France in the mid 90’s trade secrets were foremost.  They lost 
> Martin over this issue.    
  

  
 
  
   

RE: [Vo]:Who knew? WHAT'S BIG MONEY REALLY UP TO?

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Jones—

I think your recent “connecting the dots” regarding Toyota’s plans to market a 
hydrogen powered car
makes good sense.

A LENR back fit in 3 years for the fuel cells seems possible.  The hydrogen is 
a good substitute ploy to ge a head start on the production run.  All other 
auto companies, except Tesla, seem to be way behind getting to an LENR source 
of energy for autos and all transportation modes.  I suspect that Toyota and 
Tesla already have their own reactors and will not depend upon Mills,  Rossi or 
anyone else.  For Toyota when they sponsored Ponds in France in the mid 90’s 
trade secrets were foremost.  They lost Martin over this issue.

To bad GE did not look to the future in the 1990’s.  (They suffered the short 
term profit motive of the Jack Welsh era.)  They are quickly going into a DARK, 
DARK  time with little hope for gaining their senses IMHO.   They will be 
bought out by an entity with good sense to make use of their technology 
infrastructure.

  The railroad industry will need a way to reduce costs when coal and oil 
transportation income is lost.   A locomotive with a Toyota electrical source 
of power will fit right in.  They may not replace the diesel electric units 
which are retained for their added weight, necessary for traction on steel 
rails.

Toyota stock may be a good bet

Bob Cook









From: Jones Beene
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 4:26 PM
To: Jones Beene; 
Vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Who knew?


Earlier I mentioned, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, that the extraordinarily 
prescient  Elon Musk could be the very person behind a restructuring of BLP - 
basically to buy out some early investors and provide for a future where 
accountability was less of a consideration, so to speak.   This speculation 
is fact-free.

Anyway this proposition as a deal made in heaven, or Trump Tower, is making 
more and more sense, the deeper you look into what Randy has -- constrasted 
with what Elon needs... Think about it in terms of old tek: if the hydrino is a 
real entity (I think it is real in some form which may not correspond exactly 
to Mills) and if Mills can "harvest" this isomer as a charge transfer 
modality... then... voila, exactly as "America's Genius" had forecast 20 years 
ago, the species (hydrino-hydride) now better known as dense hydrogenm would be 
the ideal charge carrier in an advanced battery.

BTW a crude valuation of this restructuring would probably be in the $ 200 
million or so range - small by Silicon Valley standards so Elon would surely 
try to make it look like a $20 billion entity somehow... and who knows? The 
jokers who have tried to short Elon have lost their shirts so he can probably 
pull it off.





Hi Robin,

An alternative to your #2 below is a leveraged buyout of some kind but not 
involving a traded company or a sheik, etc. Mills probably wants to stay in 
charge and see this out, win or loose.Who can see him giving up an inch of 
control unless the Sun Cell is a total failure. It may be a failure but there 
may be something else which is seen as a successor.



Anyway, there is little doubt that Mills has old investors who put up millions 
in several successive rounds of private investment back in the previous century 
(this can include the heirs of same) who want to get some value now. They 
expected to see a huge return long ago, based upon Mills hype, and have been 
disappointed over and over again.



These investors will sell back early round stock at a discount = or else sue - 
in order to get some value out of it, sooner rather than later, allowing Mills 
to do a leveraged buyout of a sort, and go completely private and silent. The 
silence is to avoid legal repercussions and to avoid hurting his chances to 
obtain the backing of probably one investor. Heck maybe Elon is behind him now 
 or else Larry Page who needs more power for his soon to be released VTOL



A good guess is that Mills is walking a tightrope in legal terms, having made 
claims which did not materialize and he could lose everything if he does not 
first satisfy the early investors and keep everything out of court.




From: "mix...@bigpond.com" 

>Back in 1975 and continuing on for another generation, engineers in the energy 
>sector almost never gave solar a second thought as being a major contributor 
>in the big picture. Too expensive and large fortunes were lost by early 
>pioneers.
>
>In fact solar panels cost $100 per watt then, and although it was recognized 
>that the price would drop fast with increasing demand, there were few who 
>expected the price to drop so dramatically to below $1 per watt today (without 
>subsidy). That's what the graph on this page demonstrates - a 100-to-one drop 
>(or more). This massive reduction in installed price still has not sunk into 
>the minds of all decision makers - some of whom still embrace coal.
>

[Vo]:Depressing article about particle physics in the N. Y. Times

[Jed Rothwell]

It sounds like particle physics theory is no better than cold fusion
theory, even though they spent $5 billion on the instrument and $1 billion
per year to run it. I hope that cold fusion would make a lot more progress
with $5 billion than these people have.

See:

The Uncertain Future of Particle Physics

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/opinion/particle-physics-large-hadron-collider.html

QUOTE:

Before the L.H.C. started operation, particle physicists had more exciting
predictions than that. They thought that other new particles would also
appear near the energy at which the Higgs boson could be produced. They
also thought that the L.H.C. would see evidence for new dimensions of
space. They further hoped that this mammoth collider would deliver clues
about the nature of dark matter (which astrophysicists think constitutes 85
percent of the matter in the universe) or about a unified force.

The stories about new particles, dark matter and additional dimensions were
repeated in countless media outlets from before the launch of the L.H.C.
until a few years ago. What happened to those predictions? The simple
answer is this: Those predictions were wrong — that much is now clear.

The trouble is, a “prediction” in particle physics is today little more
than guesswork. (In case you were wondering, yes, that’s exactly why I left
the field.) In the past 30 years, particle physicists have produced
thousands of theories whose mathematics they can design to “predict” pretty
much anything. For example, in 2015 when a statistical fluctuation in the
L.H.C. data looked like it might be a new particle, physicists produced
more than 500 papers in eight months to explain what later turned out to be
merely noise. The same has happened many other times for similar
fluctuations, demonstrating how worthless those predictions are.

Re: [Vo]:THEAC-25 converts the heat directly into cold

[Jones Beene]

 This is very interesting.
A little more info here -- but not enough...

Electricity-free air con: Thermoacoustic device turns waste heat into cold 
using no additional power

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 MJ wrote:  
 
 
     Interesting:

     https://www.soundenergy.nl/

  

[Vo]:THEAC-25 converts the heat directly into cold

[MJ]

    Interesting:

    https://www.soundenergy.nl/