Re: [Vo]:Laissez les bon temps rouler -

2020-03-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:15 AM Jonathan Berry 
wrote:

> You just need to heat masks to 56C for an extended period (about an hour)
> to sterilize the mask, or hotter temperatures for longer, that isn't very
> hot.
>

That works on SARS.  There is no such study on SARS-CoV-2.

The Swedes have been successfully sterilizing with UV.

Don't you think it's an odd coincidence that Japan begins announcing
increases in Covid-19 cases AFTER they decided to delay the Olympics.
Hmmm?


Re: [Vo]:Laissez les bon temps rouler -

2020-03-30 Thread Jonathan Berry
You just need to heat masks to 56C for an extended period (about an hour)
to sterilize the mask, or hotter temperatures for longer, that isn't very
hot.


On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 20:56, Jim Dickenson  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I also saw on NBC news that the University of Nebraska is using UV to
> sanitize masks.  Please see:
> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/health/coronavirus-masks-reuse.html
> from March 20th - things seem to take a while to get around.
>
> Regarding washing them, I am not sure if wetting and drying will change a
> mask's filtration properties.  Anyway - I have washed and have drying on
> the porch two paper surgical type masks and will see how that goes.  I used
> dish soap as that is what's easy to get and the soap does kill the virus.
> It's just about impossible to get masks of any type.
>
> The numbers in Tokyo (the neighboring city to where I live) are slowly
> going up - I think 61 more confirmed over the last 24 hrs, prior 3 or 4
> days were in the 40's.  And slowly more and more social distancing actions
> are being implemented, which can have a lag of 3 to 14 (or more?) days.
> Today is cold and had snow, so people stayed home a bit more, which is good.
>
> I have noticed here that about 80% of the people are wearing masks in
> public.
>
> The trouble with the asymptomatic infected people and the current testing
> of only symptomatic people (and not always all of those) is that it's like
> trying to sail a flotilla through seas infested with enemy submarines and
> having a policy of only shooting at submarines that surface (when someone
> becomes symptomatic). meanwhile all the submerged ones (asymptomatic or
> mildly so) are torpedoing the flotilla.
>
> IMO the only way to stop the spreading is to test everyone and isolate all
> the infected whether or not they show symptoms.  Otherwise, the virus
> torpedoes will keep hitting people.
>
> Also the drug pictured above is called "Avigan"  (アビガン), which is an
> antiviral made by FujiFilm (Japan).
>
> See
> https://fortune.com/2020/03/28/coronavirus-treatment-drug-antiviral-favipiravir-avigan-fujifilm/
>
>
> - Jim
>
> PS - Please excuse me if this is a duplicate send - my email system
> appears to be confused this morning.
>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 4:40 AM  wrote:
>
>> In reply to  H LV's message of Sat, 28 Mar 2020 11:48:28 -0400:
>> Hi,
>> [snip]
>> >UMass Tries Innovative Method To Clean N95 Masks: UV Light
>> >March 27, 2020
>> >
>> https://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/2020/03/27/umass-memorial-disinfects-masks-ultraviolet-light
>>
>> Just wash them in bleach.
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Robin van Spaandonk
>>
>> local asymmetry = temporary success
>>
>>


Re: [Vo]:Laissez les bon temps rouler -

2020-03-30 Thread Jim Dickenson
Hi,

I also saw on NBC news that the University of Nebraska is using UV to
sanitize masks.  Please see:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/health/coronavirus-masks-reuse.html
from March 20th - things seem to take a while to get around.

Regarding washing them, I am not sure if wetting and drying will change a
mask's filtration properties.  Anyway - I have washed and have drying on
the porch two paper surgical type masks and will see how that goes.  I used
dish soap as that is what's easy to get and the soap does kill the virus.
It's just about impossible to get masks of any type.

The numbers in Tokyo (the neighboring city to where I live) are slowly
going up - I think 61 more confirmed over the last 24 hrs, prior 3 or 4
days were in the 40's.  And slowly more and more social distancing actions
are being implemented, which can have a lag of 3 to 14 (or more?) days.
Today is cold and had snow, so people stayed home a bit more, which is good.

I have noticed here that about 80% of the people are wearing masks in
public.

The trouble with the asymptomatic infected people and the current testing
of only symptomatic people (and not always all of those) is that it's like
trying to sail a flotilla through seas infested with enemy submarines and
having a policy of only shooting at submarines that surface (when someone
becomes symptomatic). meanwhile all the submerged ones (asymptomatic or
mildly so) are torpedoing the flotilla.

IMO the only way to stop the spreading is to test everyone and isolate all
the infected whether or not they show symptoms.  Otherwise, the virus
torpedoes will keep hitting people.

Also the drug pictured above is called "Avigan"  (アビガン), which is an
antiviral made by FujiFilm (Japan).

See
https://fortune.com/2020/03/28/coronavirus-treatment-drug-antiviral-favipiravir-avigan-fujifilm/


- Jim

PS - Please excuse me if this is a duplicate send - my email system appears
to be confused this morning.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 4:40 AM  wrote:

> In reply to  H LV's message of Sat, 28 Mar 2020 11:48:28 -0400:
> Hi,
> [snip]
> >UMass Tries Innovative Method To Clean N95 Masks: UV Light
> >March 27, 2020
> >
> https://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/2020/03/27/umass-memorial-disinfects-masks-ultraviolet-light
>
> Just wash them in bleach.
> Regards,
>
>
> Robin van Spaandonk
>
> local asymmetry = temporary success
>
>