Re: [Vo]:Propellantless EM drive results

2020-09-24 Thread Terry Blanton
I will check the references; but, my problem with the concept is in the
definition of a bit of information.  A bit could be constituted by either
an endothermic or an exothermic action depending on the method of storage.

Let us not be information racists.  Zero is datum also.  :)

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Re: [Vo]:Propellantless EM drive results

2020-09-24 Thread Jonathan Berry
I would note that the magnetocaloric effect seems to embody the same effect.
Where the order and disorder of the magnetic domains is changed by
magnetization, that is erasing data right?!

So it is I guess a pretty robust effect as it is used to cool things
already.

On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 at 13:54, Jonathan Berry 
wrote:

> I'd never heard of that either, but a moment of Googling bought up these
> as the first 2 results:
>
>
> https://physicsworld.com/a/erasing-data-could-keep-quantum-computers-cool/#:~:text=A%20classical%20computer%20generates%20heat,unknown%20information%20in%20a%20system
> .
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landauer%27s_principle
>
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 at 13:35, Terry Blanton  wrote:
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>>
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>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 1:21 PM Jones Beene  wrote
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>>> Yes, it is long
>>>
>>
>> It's really not long.  The presentation is the first half hour and the
>> last is the Q session.  It's all based on the Casimir effect.
>>
>> I would be interested on more on the claim he made about increased heat
>> in computer systems when information is deleted.  He acted like that was a
>> proven fact.  Anyone got a citation on such?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>


Re: [Vo]:Propellantless EM drive results

2020-09-24 Thread Jonathan Berry
I'd never heard of that either, but a moment of Googling bought up these as
the first 2 results:

https://physicsworld.com/a/erasing-data-could-keep-quantum-computers-cool/#:~:text=A%20classical%20computer%20generates%20heat,unknown%20information%20in%20a%20system
.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landauer%27s_principle

On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 at 13:35, Terry Blanton  wrote:

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>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 1:21 PM Jones Beene  wrote
>
>> Yes, it is long
>>
>
> It's really not long.  The presentation is the first half hour and the
> last is the Q session.  It's all based on the Casimir effect.
>
> I would be interested on more on the claim he made about increased heat in
> computer systems when information is deleted.  He acted like that was a
> proven fact.  Anyone got a citation on such?
>
> TIA
>


Re: [Vo]:Propellantless EM drive results

2020-09-24 Thread Jones Beene
Terry Blanton wrote: 
 > I would be interested on more on the claim he made about increased heat in 
 > computer systems when information is deleted.  He acted like that was a 
 > proven fact.  Anyone got a citation on such?

I think this comes from Landauer's principle but I do not have a citation 
handy. I will look for it tomorrow.
  

Re: [Vo]:Propellantless EM drive results

2020-09-24 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 1:21 PM Jones Beene  wrote

> Yes, it is long
>

It's really not long.  The presentation is the first half hour and the last
is the Q session.  It's all based on the Casimir effect.

I would be interested on more on the claim he made about increased heat in
computer systems when information is deleted.  He acted like that was a
proven fact.  Anyone got a citation on such?

TIA


Re: [Vo]:Propellantless EM drive results

2020-09-24 Thread Jones Beene
 For anyone who loves science, the new McCulloch lecture on YT is one of the 
great unappreciated finds of all time !
Yes, it is long and yes he is not a great presenter ... BUT ... the content 
here is astounding. And it is fairly terse, given the breadth of the subject 
matter. McCulloch was brought up on Vortex by Mark Iverson over 4 years ago and 
again by Alain Sepeda and Jack Cole but it is just now sinking in to the 
collective conscious of vorticians thanks to this new video. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=341Yk4k51uY=youtu.be
Only a thousand views. Pity. You will thank yourself if you make it through to 
the end.

With a few tweaks, this Quantum Inertia theory is almost guaranteed to get 
traction. It has so much to offer.


Sean Logan wrote:  
 This is great!