Re: Dave Beaty Re: [Vo]:ufo report to be coming out in a month

2021-05-20 Thread ROGER ANDERTON


Probably Social Darwnists -> where think they can do whatever they like 
to inferior species


-- Original Message --
From: "Terry Blanton" 
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, 20 May, 21 At 23:53
Subject: Re: Dave Beaty Re: [Vo]:ufo report to be coming out in a month




On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 6:22 PM Robin  > wrote:

In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 20 May 2021 17:54:44 -0400:
 Hi,
 [snip]
 >The one question that remains in
 >my mind is:
 >
 >ARE WE FOOD OR ARE WE PETS?

 They know we are intelligent, and we are not food. They guide us in 
our development somewhat, and occasionally lend a
 hand when needed, but are largely non-interventionist. A species (us) 
mostly has to discover things for themselves,

 otherwise the shock to their development can lead to catastrophe.

I hope you are right; however, my research tells me that they are taking 
something from us.  And I really don't think they give a hoot about the 
Prime Directive.





Re: Dave Beaty Re: [Vo]:ufo report to be coming out in a month

2021-05-20 Thread Robin
In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 20 May 2021 18:53:24 -0400:
Hi Terry,
[snip]
>I hope you are right; however, my research tells me that they are taking
>something from us.  And I really don't think they give a hoot about the
>Prime Directive.

What research, and what do you think they are taking?

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk 



Re: Dave Beaty Re: [Vo]:ufo report to be coming out in a month

2021-05-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 6:22 PM Robin 
wrote:

> In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 20 May 2021 17:54:44 -0400:
> Hi,
> [snip]
> >The one question that remains in
> >my mind is:
> >
> >ARE WE FOOD OR ARE WE PETS?
>
> They know we are intelligent, and we are not food. They guide us in our
> development somewhat, and occasionally lend a
> hand when needed, but are largely non-interventionist. A species (us)
> mostly has to discover things for themselves,
> otherwise the shock to their development can lead to catastrophe.


I hope you are right; however, my research tells me that they are taking
something from us.  And I really don't think they give a hoot about the
Prime Directive.


Re: Dave Beaty Re: [Vo]:ufo report to be coming out in a month

2021-05-20 Thread Robin
In reply to  Terry Blanton's message of Thu, 20 May 2021 17:54:44 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
>The one question that remains in
>my mind is:
>
>ARE WE FOOD OR ARE WE PETS?

They know we are intelligent, and we are not food. They guide us in our 
development somewhat, and occasionally lend a
hand when needed, but are largely non-interventionist. A species (us) mostly 
has to discover things for themselves,
otherwise the shock to their development can lead to catastrophe.

[snip]
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk 



Re: Dave Beaty Re: [Vo]:ufo report to be coming out in a month

2021-05-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 5:08 PM William Beaty  wrote:

>
> Me, I stay away from the UFO community.
>

Wise move.  Thanks, Bill.

In the late 80s, before the Internet, I was a Moderator on the CompuServe
Encounters forum for the MUFON section.  I had been a Saucer Seeker since
reading *Incident at Exeter* as a kid in the 60s.  On that forum, I was
fortunate to meet many of the "Experts".  The forum was hot into the early
90s when the Alien Autopsy film was "found".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_autopsy

Around that time, I left MUFON and CompuServe but not before meeting Chris
Tinsley who invited me to join Vortex-L and discuss Cold Fusion.  I had
become so frustrated with the UFO community and the lack of real knowledge
that I gave it up, frustrated that we will never learn who is piloting
those ships until THEY want us to know.  The one question that remains in
my mind is:

ARE WE FOOD OR ARE WE PETS?

Evidence is that they have been around for a long time.  They likely don't
consider us intelligent creatures.  After 2020, I tend to agree.

Cheers!


Dave Beaty Re: [Vo]:ufo report to be coming out in a month

2021-05-20 Thread William Beaty



Me, I stay away from the UFO community.

But my brother Dave in Ft. Myers sure doesn't!  For years he's been 
running a private facebook group for... USN pilots who commonly 
eyewitnessed weird hypervelocity aircraft, those now called "Tic-tac" 
events. All the pilots are meeting privately on facebook AATIP group. 
Dave has been taking them around to give talks at UFO conferences.


That's old news.

Now the screaming starts, because it just hit the big time, with pilot 
interviews on Sixty Minutes.   Skeptics are freaking out.


  60MIN may 16   Navy pilots' UAP encounters
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBtMbBPzqHY



See one of Dave Beaty's youtube channels, with older pilot interviews:

  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6i-se5IU8hRbPov5-ON1tw

Also, he's a designer/cameraman/CGI person for a small video contract 
house in Florida, and years ago created an entire half-hour movie from 
found footage and hand-made CGI, called...


   The Nimitz Encounters   32min
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRgoisHRmUE

   updated, USO submerged version
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e9NoKp8EnE

If you watch TV, you've probably seen his CGI footage, because all sorts 
of UFO programs and even broadcast news shows have been stealing it from 
his youtube video, without attribution!






On Tue, 18 May 2021, Frank Znidarsic wrote:


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/17/ufo-report-marco-rubio-urges-us-take-seriously-uap





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