Re: [Vo]:Electron capture acceleration via NMR ?
On 2021-12-01 19:33, Jones Beene wrote: [...] "IF" (big if) *unusually high hydrogen output* from an RF electrolysis cell can be demonstrated, then good evidence of what is happening to account for the gain - whether it is Millsean/Holmlid or instead is related to nuclear beta decay, can be as simple and foolproof as the detection of anomalous argon. FWIW, excess hydrogen output (relative to Faraday efficiency) has been measured in plasma electrolysis cells in the early 2000s by Mizuno et al., but they found it to be correlated with negative heat (endothermic reaction). When excess heat was present, there was no excess hydrogen. Furthermore, in their case the overall energetic efficiency was low due to the high voltages required (hundreds of volts). See Mizuno's papers here: - https://www.researchgate.net/publication/239053742_Hydrogen_Evolution_by_Plasma_Electrolysis_in_Aqueous_Solution - https://www.researchgate.net/publication/237284616_Generation_of_Heat_and_Products_During_Plasma_Electrolysis_in_Liquid Cheers, BA
Re: [Vo]:Electron capture acceleration via NMR ?
This article was sent to me on the related topic of 'magnetic water-splitting' (related to NMR in the obvious way). Magnet doubles hydrogen yield from water splitting Aligning the spin states of oxygen intermediates overcomes a bottleneck in electrolysishttps://cen.acs.org/physical-chemistry/Magnet-doubles-hydrogen-yield-water/97/web/2019/06 There is a case to be made for an entirely new way to split water - using RF with strong magnets and potassium NMR. A side effect would be cooling of the electrolyte. "IF" (big if) unusually high hydrogen output from an RF electrolysis cell can be demonstrated, then good evidence of what is happening to account for the gain - whether it is Millsean/Holmlid or instead is related to nuclear beta decay, can be as simple and foolproof as the detection of anomalous argon. The transmutation test of interest is called "K-Ar dating" and many University Geology Labs have the capability. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%E2%80%93Ar_dating Of course there could be two different causes for gain but the more the merrier.
Re: [Vo]:Electron capture acceleration via NMR ?
On 2021-12-01 01:57, Robin wrote: In an electrolytic cell both H and K will form at the cathode, though the K will only be short lived because it combines with water to form KOH & H. However if a K atom and an H atom form in close proximity to one another at the same time, then the possibility exists that the K will catalyze a shrinkage reaction of the H (m=3), before it combines with water. To facilitate this process, the KOH should be a saturated solution, and the cathode atoms as close together as possible. This is interesting. In a saturated KOH aqueous solution, if the voltage is high enough (you shouldn't be afraid to use tens of volts if necessary) and the cathode thin enough (in the form of wires), solid KOH will likely accumulate on the cathode and start dissociating into K metal beneath it. When that happens, it is possible to see small sparks and explosions as it reacts with water and presumably hydrogen. This is much simpler (and safer) to observe with potassium carbonate and possibly bicarbonate, however. With KOH close to saturation, plasma electrolysis starts occurring first; you have to add more KOH than saturation at room temperature to make it accumulate when it is operating. Unsafe and wasteful. I think something similar to molten salt electrolysis starts occurring under these conditions, with the difference that hydrogen from water dissociation is also present (interesting for LENR?). The gallery linked below shows short animations from tests with mainly K2CO3 and some NaHCO3 (which seemed to make accumulation easier) at various concentrations and conditions that I made months ago. https://imgur.com/a/7OsftYm Cheers, BA
