Re: [Vo]:OT: Energy and taxation

2022-01-08 Thread Terry Blanton
The problem with these solutions is that the state where the miles are
driven should receive the revenue.  Soom road tractors will be EV and those
states that would have normally collected fuel tax from diesel trucks will
have a loss of revenue.  Some states have proposed some sort of GIS
tracking for proper distribution of collected EV taxes that would replace
fuel tax.

Many states depend heavily on these fuel taxes to maintain their roadways.
Tourist states like Florida use fuel tax as a partial substitute for income
tax.


Re: [Vo]:OT: Energy and taxation

2022-01-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
H LV  wrote:

No more unsafe than running out charge or gasoline in the "middle of
> nowhere".
>

True. You could have multiple warnings as it approaches zero.



> These days it is hard to end up in the middle of nowhere.
>

I manage to get there from time to time. But that brings up an interesting
point. Rather than having the car not start, you could simply have it
automatically reload via cell phone as it approaches zero. That is what my
Skype telephone service does.


Re: [Vo]:OT: Energy and taxation

2022-01-08 Thread H LV
Or you could have the option to drive more than the number of miles you
purchased. In that situation you would begin to owe money.

Harry

On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 2:24 PM H LV  wrote:

> No more unsafe than running out charge or gasoline in the "middle of
> nowhere".
> These days it is hard to end up in the middle of nowhere.
> The internet will soon be available everywhere.
>
> harry
>
> On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 2:17 PM Jed Rothwell  wrote:
>
>> H LV  wrote:
>>
>> One could purchase miles for a special key which would let the user start
>>> the vehicle. The key would be able to read the car's odometer and deduct
>>> miles accordingly.
>>>
>>
>> That sounds unsafe. If you ran out of miles, you might be stranded in
>> the middle of nowhere, unable to start the car.
>>
>>


Re: [Vo]:OT: Energy and taxation

2022-01-08 Thread H LV
No more unsafe than running out charge or gasoline in the "middle of
nowhere".
These days it is hard to end up in the middle of nowhere.
The internet will soon be available everywhere.

harry

On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 2:17 PM Jed Rothwell  wrote:

> H LV  wrote:
>
> One could purchase miles for a special key which would let the user start
>> the vehicle. The key would be able to read the car's odometer and deduct
>> miles accordingly.
>>
>
> That sounds unsafe. If you ran out of miles, you might be stranded in
> the middle of nowhere, unable to start the car.
>
>


Re: [Vo]:OT: Energy and taxation

2022-01-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
H LV  wrote:

One could purchase miles for a special key which would let the user start
> the vehicle. The key would be able to read the car's odometer and deduct
> miles accordingly.
>

That sounds unsafe. If you ran out of miles, you might be stranded in
the middle of nowhere, unable to start the car.


Re: [Vo]:OT: Energy and taxation

2022-01-08 Thread H LV
One could purchase miles for a special key which would let the user start
the vehicle. The key would be able to read the car's odometer and deduct
miles accordingly.

Harry

On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 3:37 PM Jed Rothwell  wrote:

> I think an annual tag fee based on miles driven would be the best
> solution. You would have to bring the car into a licensed mechanic who
> fills in an online form with the odometer reading. Monitoring distance
> driven every day or on roads as cars pass is too complicated and expensive.
> Reading an odometer once a year would cost practically nothing.
>
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 1:13 PM H LV  wrote:
>
>> As energy options change, methods of taxation will change as well.
>>
>>
>> https://driving.ca/auto-news/driver-info/with-evs-on-the-way-what-comes-after-the-gas-tax
>>
>> harry
>>
>