Re: [Vo]:~Norway proof of concept/Man-made Man-played~
Jack, If indeed you did or are no Sent from my mobile On Sep 24, 2010, at 4:51 PM, "Jack Harbach-O'Sullivan" wrote: > was invited by our Govt. to consult a back-engineering effort to play > catch-up to the Russians who by their best intel was completely convinced was > REAL TECHNOLOGY. It was and we have since surpassed them.
Re: [Vo]:NORWAY SPIRAL a la' Russia: HyperDimensional Torsion Physics-RUSSIA'S TESLA-(Tunguska)-ARRAY: Missile Killer: Hyper-Grav Distortion Wake Missle Interdiction Shield!
I should write HOAGLAND, because I do enjoy the man, and miss our conversations. On Sep 14, 2010, at 12:23 AM, Esa Ruoho wrote: Zak how can i take you artikkeli when you didnt write a couple of words w all-caps?? Disappointed. Next time, type TEMPLE and GNOSIS. Ps. Anyone else feel the original message and its ilk are autogenerated by a keyword-catching software? iPoni sent dis message. Esa Ruoho wrote it. On 14.9.2010, at 10.13, Zachary Jones wrote: Well, that truly was a privilege. Bon Vivants. Who's the Top, you or Hoagland? If you talk with him soon, tell him I've still withheld the weaponization of Schauberger's vortex gnosis, but I will use it to raise the 3rd temple. ;) Cheers mate Z On Sep 13, 2010, at 5:42 PM, Jack Harbach-O'Sullivan wrote: HyperDimensional Torsion Physics weaponized: Plasma-Breach EM- Toroid Reactors 'broadcast' 'Ingress-Hyperdimensional FOCUSED HYPER-GRAV TOROID 'frisbee-style.' This is an Einstein-Rosen portal accessing parallel-HyperSpace DarkEnergy Hyper-Grav Plasma SPIRALING while 'weirdly' riding the Earth-Flux-EM field longitudinal pathways to, and then across the N-Pole. And then GROUNDING or White-Hole- Breaching Tunguska style depending upon how much original 'broadcast' energy is input into the broadcasting Super-Fluid Bose- Einstein BAGEL BODY Plasma-Breach Reactor. THAT IS specifically if a A geo-techtonic field LIGHTNING-GROUNDING-STRIKE expands said 'broadcast-torsion-field-ingressing' EM-toroid which opens it's Eintein-Rosen 'eye' to INGRESS WHITE-HOLE status for a split instant->hense TUNGUSKA. *Tesla/Hyperdimensional 'Electro-Plasmic Meteor Missle/Aircraft Killer' Technology* HISTORICALLY: Tesla in fact inadvertantly pioneered technologies giving us the potential to access and exploit---> HyperDimensional Torsion Physics aka AexoHyperSpace Singularity Physics* * *TACHYON(speed)-FIELD Parallel AEXO-DarkSpace which could just as easily be called 'PARALLEL TACHYON(speed M-Brane- carrier-wave) HYPERSPACE'* * * RUSSIAMISSILE KILLER ELECTRO-PLASMIC METEOR ARRAY: TESLA WEAPONIZED as MISSILE INTERDICTION SCREEN* * * Broadcast Gray-Jet pre-Singularity creates Hyper-Gravity Distortion Wake applied as Missle Killer Array Screen* * * !And ONE HELL'UV'A COOL LIGHTSHOW in the night sky over NORWAY! NORWAY-SPIRAL NEWS.ru: Russia's Electro-Plasmic (north-flying) 'Broadcast/free-atomospheric traveling' Hyper-Grav-Wake Gray-Jet pre-Singularity ELECTRO-PLASMIC TOROID Missile interdiction screen creates 'weird' Einstein-Rosen SPIRAL HYPERSPACE PLASMA INGRESS spiral in the sky over NORWAY/SCANDINAVIA THIS R&D WINDOW IS FULLY OPENED & OPERATIONAL: 'GET' the significance of ALL of that follows. This is NOT Science Fiction. VIA Plasma-Breach TORSION-HYPERSPACE accessing High-Density EM- Toroid Reactors GRAY-JET SINGULARITY BREAKTHROUGHS: Associated Hyper-Grav Field POINT-LEAD propulsion technologies being pioneered by BOEING & LOCKHEED-MARTIN will initially be installed in prototye within 'conventional appearing' craft such as the DREAMLINER & other MILITARY STEALTH applications. Such craft will GET BETTER & BETTER fuel economy until it becomes obvious that their conventional jet-engines are MERELY COSMETIC. And a particular retired NASA-Avionics engineer recently broadcast from Australia media sources that indeed his surveys of ongoing 'fuel- consumption' logs for some of the here-to-fore relatively 'conventional' stealth aircraft are using VIRTUALLY 'NO' FUEL for impossibly LONG & FAST flights about the globe as of late. Check-out JANES INTERNATIONAL articles on new 'Anti-Grav' projects underway by BOEING. The 'Graphite Composite Unibody Fusilage-Skin' WAS INTRINSIC to > the original POINT-LEAD Hyper-Grav Lobe Propulsion System prototye design > specifications. Jack Harbach~:-) OF NOTE in the LAST U.S. ADMINISTRATION* VLADIMIR PUTIN & GEORGE BUSH THOROUGHLY DISCUSSED THE ON-GOING DEVELOPMENTS IN THESE TECHNOLOGIES AT THEIR SUMMIT; HENSE PUTIN's UNDERSTANDABLE PROBLEM WITH GEORGE BUSH's PUTTING 'ELECTRO-PLASMIC- METEOR' array GRAVIONIC-EM WAKE WALLS ACROSS EUROPE . . . HOWEVER: Since GWB aquiesced to JOINT-PROJECTING of the Gray-Jet Electro-Plasmic Singularity/DarkEnergy accessing technologies NOW President Obama & the current Russian administration with Putin now Prime-Minister are FAST FRIENDS(kind've). NOTABLE: About a decade ago I was involved in a joint project with counterparts in the Russian Advanced Physics R&D community and with the parallel U.S. ADVANCED PROPULSION RESEARCH PROJECT. Out of 'Dark Energy-PARALLEL
Re: [Vo]:NORWAY SPIRAL a la' Russia: HyperDimensional Torsion Physics-RUSSIA'S TESLA-(Tunguska)-ARRAY: Missile Killer: Hyper-Grav Distortion Wake Missle Interdiction Shield!
Well, that truly was a privilege. Bon Vivants. Who's the Top, you or Hoagland? If you talk with him soon, tell him I've still withheld the weaponization of Schauberger's vortex gnosis, but I will use it to raise the 3rd temple. ;) Cheers mate Z On Sep 13, 2010, at 5:42 PM, Jack Harbach-O'Sullivan wrote: HyperDimensional Torsion Physics weaponized: Plasma-Breach EM-Toroid Reactors 'broadcast' 'Ingress-Hyperdimensional FOCUSED HYPER-GRAV TOROID 'frisbee-style.' This is an Einstein-Rosen portal accessing parallel-HyperSpace DarkEnergy Hyper-Grav Plasma SPIRALING while 'weirdly' riding the Earth-Flux-EM field longitudinal pathways to, and then across the N-Pole. And then GROUNDING or White-Hole- Breaching Tunguska style depending upon how much original 'broadcast' energy is input into the broadcasting Super-Fluid Bose- Einstein BAGEL BODY Plasma-Breach Reactor. THAT IS specifically if a A geo-techtonic field LIGHTNING-GROUNDING-STRIKE expands said 'broadcast-torsion-field-ingressing' EM-toroid which opens it's Eintein-Rosen 'eye' to INGRESS WHITE-HOLE status for a split instant->hense TUNGUSKA. *Tesla/Hyperdimensional 'Electro-Plasmic Meteor Missle/Aircraft Killer' Technology* HISTORICALLY: Tesla in fact inadvertantly pioneered technologies giving us the potential to access and exploit---> HyperDimensional Torsion Physics aka AexoHyperSpace Singularity Physics* * *TACHYON(speed)-FIELD Parallel AEXO-DarkSpace which could just as easily be called 'PARALLEL TACHYON(speed M-Brane-carrier- wave) HYPERSPACE'* * * RUSSIAMISSILE KILLER ELECTRO-PLASMIC METEOR ARRAY: TESLA WEAPONIZED as MISSILE INTERDICTION SCREEN* * * Broadcast Gray-Jet pre-Singularity creates Hyper-Gravity Distortion Wake applied as Missle Killer Array Screen* * * !And ONE HELL'UV'A COOL LIGHTSHOW in the night sky over NORWAY! NORWAY-SPIRAL NEWS.ru: Russia's Electro-Plasmic (north-flying) 'Broadcast/free-atomospheric traveling' Hyper-Grav-Wake Gray-Jet pre- Singularity ELECTRO-PLASMIC TOROID Missile interdiction screen creates 'weird' Einstein-Rosen SPIRAL HYPERSPACE PLASMA INGRESS spiral in the sky over NORWAY/SCANDINAVIA THIS R&D WINDOW IS FULLY OPENED & OPERATIONAL: 'GET' the significance of ALL of that follows. This is NOT Science Fiction. VIA Plasma-Breach TORSION-HYPERSPACE accessing High-Density EM- Toroid Reactors GRAY-JET SINGULARITY BREAKTHROUGHS: Associated Hyper-Grav Field POINT-LEAD propulsion technologies being pioneered by BOEING & LOCKHEED-MARTIN will initially be installed in prototye within 'conventional appearing' craft such as the DREAMLINER & other MILITARY STEALTH applications. Such craft will GET BETTER & BETTER fuel economy until it becomes obvious that their conventional jet-engines are MERELY COSMETIC. And a particular retired NASA-Avionics engineer recently broadcast from Australia media sources that indeed his surveys of ongoing 'fuel-consumption' logs for some of the here-to-fore relatively 'conventional' stealth aircraft are using VIRTUALLY 'NO' FUEL for impossibly LONG & FAST flights about the globe as of late. Check-out JANES INTERNATIONAL articles on new 'Anti-Grav' projects underway by BOEING. The 'Graphite Composite Unibody Fusilage-Skin' WAS INTRINSIC to > the original POINT-LEAD Hyper-Grav Lobe Propulsion System prototye design > specifications. Jack Harbach~:-) OF NOTE in the LAST U.S. ADMINISTRATION* VLADIMIR PUTIN & GEORGE BUSH THOROUGHLY DISCUSSED THE ON-GOING DEVELOPMENTS IN THESE TECHNOLOGIES AT THEIR SUMMIT; HENSE PUTIN's UNDERSTANDABLE PROBLEM WITH GEORGE BUSH's PUTTING 'ELECTRO-PLASMIC- METEOR' array GRAVIONIC-EM WAKE WALLS ACROSS EUROPE . . . HOWEVER: Since GWB aquiesced to JOINT-PROJECTING of the Gray-Jet Electro-Plasmic Singularity/DarkEnergy accessing technologies NOW President Obama & the current Russian administration with Putin now Prime-Minister are FAST FRIENDS(kind've). NOTABLE: About a decade ago I was involved in a joint project with counterparts in the Russian Advanced Physics R&D community and with the parallel U.S. ADVANCED PROPULSION RESEARCH PROJECT. Out of 'Dark Energy-PARALLEL AEXO-Darkspace Theories' which dove-tailed nicely with some Nikola Tesla Research was born what we called then Hyperdimensional Torsion-Wave/ Aexohyperspace Tachyon(speed) M-Brane super-carrier-wave 'Dark Energy' PHYSICS and now simply Hyperdimensional-Torsion-wave-SINGULARITY PHYSICS. RUSSIA HAD MADE GREAT STRIDES indicating that PROTONS are the defacto-GRAVITONS as being MICRO-GRAY-JET-SINGULARITY ATOM-SYSTEMS perennially ATTACHED and POWERED via PARALLEL-AEXO-DarkSpace/Dark-Energy. IN SHORT: AEXO-DarkSpace is the UBIQUTIOUS HYPER-ENERGY/HYPER-GRAVITY back of the tapestry, so to speak. Russias early success with SUB-SINGULARITY GYRO-TOROIDAL (Super-fluid/ferro-fluid Bose- Einstein bagel-body~;-) Electro-Plasmic/AEXO-DarkSpace-Hyperspace PLASMA-BR
[Vo]:River on the ocean bottom spins the other way
For those interested in Schauberger ideas, and oceanic conveyors: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/7920006/Undersea-river-discovered-flowing-on-sea-bed.html "The key difference we found from terrestrial rivers was that as the flow goes round the bend, the water spirals in the opposite way to rivers on land." Zak
Re: [Vo]:Fwd: [Xtratech] SECRETS CONFERENCE November 20-21
I live in Tempe if anyone will be in town for the speakers. Zak On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:21 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Steve Elswick Date: Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:55 AM Subject: [Xtratech] SECRETS CONFERENCE November 20-21 To: xtrat...@teslatech.info Renewable Energies Experts Converge on Tempe November 20 - 23 Alternative, sustainable energies experts Thomas Valone, Ph.D., Steven Greer, M.D., and Jeane Manning are featured speakers at Secrets! The Energies & Harmonics Revolution Conference, meeting at the Tempe Embassy Suites Hotel, November 20-23, 2009. Sound and harmonics researchers Jonathan Goldman and Ani Williams, along with film-maker, David Wilcock will also speak. This weekend event, open to the public, marks the eighth annual gathering in Tempe of cutting- edge thinkers on a variety of controversial, alternative subjects, brought together every November by Sedona therapist, Chet Snow, Ph.D. Details and the weekend program are available on Snow’s web s ite: www.chetsnow.com. Today’s energy crisis makes this a timely o pportunity to hear several experts’ opinions and proposed solutions, all in one Valley setting. Thomas F. Valone, PhD, PE, physicist and licensed professional engineer with 30 years professional experience, is a patent examiner, research engineer, instrumentation designer and also an author, lecturer, and consultant on future energy developments. He is President and founder of Integrity Research Institute and formerly a community college teacher and a Research Director for Scott Aviation-ATO, Inc. He is the author of Zero Point Energy: The Fuel of the Future; Practical Conversion of Zero-Point Energy; Bioelectromagnetic Healing; Bush-Cheney Energy Study, Clinton Administration Energy Study and about 100 published reports and articles. Dr. Valone has appeared on CNN, A&E, and the Discovery Channels. An engaging speaker and tireless researcher, Valone will present his latest findings concerning future energy technologies on Saturday afternoon and in a research workshop Sunday morning. Dr. Steven Greer, former chairman of the Department of Emergency Medicine at Caldwell Memorial Hospital in North Carolina, is the founder and director of the Disclosure Project. In 2001, Greer presided over a Disclosure Project press conference from the National Press Club in Washington, DC. where two dozen military, government, intelligence, and corporate witnesses presented compelling testimony regarding the existence of extraterrestrial life forms visiting this planet, and demonstrating the reverse engineering of the energy and propulsion systems of their spacecraft. Dr. Greer also supervises a world-wide search for new, alternative energy sources, specifically those known as zero-point or over-unity devices with the plan to identify and develop systems which will eliminate the need for fossil fuels. On Saturday evening, Dr. Greer will speak about his latest book: Hidden Truth – Forbidden Knowledge that relates his personal experie nces with extraterrestrials since childhood - from his sighting of a UFO at an early age, to his amazing near-death experience at age 17 to his meetings with a CIA Director, US Senators, heads of state an d royalty. Greer will focus on how new alternative energy sources from human and ET contacts could revolutionize humanity’s future, if widely developed. In addition to his Saturday evening lecture, Dr . Greer will give a special workshop on Sunday evening. Having interviewed hundreds of inventors, scientists & alternative philosophers, gleaning insiders’ insights, Canadian author, Jeane Ma nning reveals patterns behind the new energy politics - the good rac ing against the dark - in her most recent book, Breakthrough Power. Manning will illustrate her Saturday afternoon lecture with visuals of new inventions and their creators, presenting the “Big Picture” behind today’s energy revolution and what it means for the public. Going beyond alternative solutions to today’s energy crisis, next mo nth’s Secrets! Conference also features two of America’s foremost so und and harmonics researchers and healers: Colorado’s Jonathan Goldm an and Ani Williams of Sedona. Goldman is an authority on sound he aling and a pioneer in the field of harmonics. He has authored Heali ng Sounds: the Power of Harmonics, The Lost Chord and Tantra of Sou nd. Jonathan is the director of the Sound Healers Association; dedi cated to the education and awareness of sound and music for healing. He is also president of Spirit Music, which produces music for medi tation, relaxation and self-transformation. In Tempe, Goldman will offer Friday evening’s keynote lecture and a special 3-hour Sound He aling Institute on Monday. Sedona-based harpist and vocalist Ani W illiams will discuss her unique sound healing techniq
[Vo]:toroid hho
nice show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRz0a2qiCtc&feature=channel_page
Re: [Vo]:the Bell
It should, so long as the light is emitted via small arcing from an interface. It's interesting that mercury does it - anyone know why offhand? Impurities creating a loose liquid crystal? Zak On Dec 21, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: Peeling scotch tape emits a faint blue light. As was demonstrated recently, when the tape is peeled in a vacuum it also produces x-rays, so I wonder if the shaking of mercury can produce x-rays as well. Harry - Original Message - From: "Hoyt A. Stearns Jr." Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008 11:21 am Subject: RE: [Vo]:the Bell Mercury does emit blue light when agitated (tribolumenscence?). It's easy to see just by shaking a test tube with some in it. Hoyt Stearns Scottsdale, Arizona -Original Message- From: j...@mail961c35.nsolutionszone.com [mailto:j...@mail961c35.nsolutionszone.com]on Behalf Of Taylor J. SmithSent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 9:30 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:the Bell Hi All, 12-21-08 Right now I'm reading "The Rise of the Fourth Reich" by Jim Marrs; and I've run across something that may be of interest starting on page 76: "The Wenzeslaus Mine [was] located about 215 miles west of Warsaw in Lower Silesia ... [It was] used in connection with the strange experiments described to his captors by SS officer Sporrenberg. These experiments centered around ... the Bell ... During operation ... two contra-rotating cylinders filled with a mercury-like ... substance spun a vortex of energy which emitted a strange phosphorescent blue light and made such a buzzing sound that operators nicknamed it the ... beehive ... To try to understand the purpose of the Bell requires a brief side trip into the world of ... Zero Point Energy." Jack Smith (As a side note, see http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/timeline.html ``Clarence Dillon of Dillon Read, set up the German Steel Trust with Thyssen & partner, Fredrick Flick ... [George Herbert] Walker, {Prescott] Bush and [Averell] Harriman owned a third of Flick's holding company [Silesian Holding Co.] and called their share Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation ... Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation was located near the Polish town of Oswiecim. When the plan to use Soviet prisoners as forced labor fell through, the Nazis began shipping Jews, communists, gypsies and other minority populations to the camp the Nazis had set up. This was the beginning of Auschwitz.'')
Re: [Vo]:NASA
The shape-power material has significance, I thought. Did anybody take note of the helical energy structure at the top of the pyramid that was pictured therein? Or more importantly, know of it's origins. I've documented this in fluids, so the field sturcture will be of specific use Zak On Dec 9, 2008, at 4:56 PM, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to thomas malloy's message of Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:30:31 -0600 (CST): Hi, [snip] answer. It isn't that they can't hit the floor with their hat, their agenda is to miss it. [snip] Well of course it is. At least one aspect of there function in life is to be a deliberate sideshow. A form of "circuses" for the masses. If they were serious about space travel they would be using antigravity technology, but then they would have to admit that the aliens won't let us go into space because we are a bunch of vicious savages. If you think I am judging humanity harshly, then just read the news paper. No, I think that you are being too kind. We are a bunch of moral degenerates armed with H bombs. With regards to A G technology. I posted about Davidson's Shape Power books. I mentioned the work of Grebennikov. The Vortexians were conspicuous by their absence of comment on the matter. Ditto for the webmaster of American Antigravity. --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
Re: [Vo]:'Super atoms'
You're quite right; it was actually rather silly of me to not mention the ORMUS work when I posted this. I had emailed Barry Carter just before the list to see where he would weigh in on this work, though have yet to hear back from him. I hadn't thought about the use of metal in terms of conduction; I had the sense it had more to do with the sheer number of electron energies. I like some of Jones' observations. Zak On Jul 7, 2008, at 11:57 PM, Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Zachary Jones's message of Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:04:01 -0700: Hi, [snip] Thought the list would be interested in this work on easily- produceable atom clusters: http://www.physorg.com/news134129791.html They claim the principle is old news, but I hadn't heard of the electron shell 'conjugation' they suggest in the article. This may explain something else - the "whitegold" story. Purported among other things to be superconducting at room temperature. Some of these "atoms" are going to get pretty heavy. Also the Russian results from http://www.proton21.com.ua/index_en.html might actually contain at least some "superatom" substances (especially those they claim are far heavier than Uranium). It would not be unreasonable to get such atoms when matter is bombarded with high energy electrons, which could easily produce lots of individual atoms that then may condense into clusters mimicking other elements. Furthermore, they used metals as targets, and this current work seems to imply that conductors are a prerequisite. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Vo]:'Super atoms'
Thought the list would be interested in this work on easily- produceable atom clusters: http://www.physorg.com/news134129791.html They claim the principle is old news, but I hadn't heard of the electron shell 'conjugation' they suggest in the article. Zak
[Vo]:something from the big guy
"Recapitulating: we may say that according to the general theory of relativity space is endowed with physical qualities; in this sense, therefore, there exists Aether." -Albert Einstein, 1920
Re: [Vo]:Bearden weighs in on STEORN
On Jul 23, 2007, at 2:23 PM, Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 23, 2007, at 8:46 AM, thomas malloy wrote: IMHO, it's not proper to substitute the word research for speculation, which AFAIK, is what "the local vacuum dynamics" is. I'm wondering what the other Vortexians have to say about that? I can neither confirm nor deny... I suppose I largely hold this same sense - though it does make me think of the PK/mind-machine affect documented by the PEAR lab. (Tests in which operator intention causes deviations in random systems) Zak
Re: [VO]: Hyd-gen tubes
On Jul 21, 2007, at 7:28 PM, R.C.Macaulay wrote: Interesting arrangement and diameter of tubes he has used . He must have spent some time in trial and error in sizing the diameter of the tubes to achieve the effect by using a rotary pulse voltage frequency generator.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO15VGtKZo0&NR=1 Richard I'd wondered this myself. Puharich alludes to that there is a trial- and-error sizing process. http://www.rexresearch.com/puharich/1puhar.htm It is my expectation that the size and frequency would have to be very well-matched to get an effect. But the heuristic method of discovery here suggests that the tube size is less important than the frequency - the latter of which is also more easily variable. I leads me to think in the direction that some manner of resonance is occurring, and that resonance has in it the effect of splitting the water. Zak
Re: [Vo]:Strangeness with cold water
thanks for the reminders; I'll sleep on it Z On Jul 19, 2007, at 10:56 PM, leaking pen wrote: the expansion is due to crystal lattice forming, and many compounds exhibit it in different ranges, just not many that are that simple. the energy of compression, to a point, can actually go towards helping teh phase change, as i recall, but during that phase change, temp isnt going to change until its complete, one way or another, right? On 7/19/07, David Jonsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since water has a negative thermal expansion coefficient in the region from 0-4 degrees Celsius one can wonder what happens if water in these conditions is compressed. Will it cool down? Where is the internal energy going? This is contrary to common understanding of physics. David -- That which yields isn't always weak.
Re: [Vo]:Strangeness with cold water
I've wondered this, too. I was illumined to consider a paper on sonomagnetism, a phenomena seen in the boundary layer of the oceanic thermocline. The motion of electrolytic fluid carries and electromotive force that generates photonic emissions (presumably which were being confusing the interpretation of submarine transmissions). I think it's another entry in the library of radiant transduction to coherent energy. To hypothesize on your question, if you compressed water near it's triple point I think you'd see a quantized heat dissipation curve in sync with photonic emissions in directions characterized by [some kind of dissipation-turbulence function] Zak On Jul 19, 2007, at 8:49 AM, David Jonsson wrote: Since water has a negative thermal expansion coefficient in the region from 0-4 degrees Celsius one can wonder what happens if water in these conditions is compressed. Will it cool down? Where is the internal energy going? This is contrary to common understanding of physics. David
Re: [Vo]:Banned from Steorn
I'll make an admittedly off-topic statement when I say that, as with your need to label Marissa a "little girl," you seem to have been rabble-rousing. (you even went out of your way, because the alliteration of "Little's little" is just terrible) Perhaps we can keep this on-topic by noting that you actions may have had more impact had they been more professionally courteous. On Jul 15, 2007, at 7:19 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: I identified one of the scientists as Scott Little's little girl, Marissa. Some igit who thinks he's protecting some secret banned me for commenting on the fact that one can discern interesting facts from those threads deleted and people banned. I was instantly reinstated; so, it was a ego trip by the administrator named magnatrix. BTW, the bloggers caught it: http://freeenergytracker.blogspot.com/ Such silliness! Terry On 7/15/07, Steven Krivit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Terry, What's this all about? If there was a prior related thread, I missed it. thx s Subject:re; Banned >Hi Terry >I didn't want to have to ban you ( I don't like doing that), but you >need to understand that if you start up about all the stuff that is >moderated, you will end up causing a lot of work & grief for the >admins. >Please don't being up issues regarding moderation ( & how it was done) >Thank you for your consideration > >I will now re-instate you. >" mags " > > >On 7/14/07, Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Simply for identifying the mysterious Marissa: >> >>http://eyres.home.texas.net/bios/Marissa.htm >> >>I also commented to the fact that they were giving away much >>information simply by the threads which they deleted. >> >>Something smells in Ireland. >> >>Terry >> >
Re: [Vo]:Why isn't this creating a stir?
Vorts, Setting aside that the video that started this thread doesn't look setup (able?) to do Over Unity - are [some] magnet motors designs an illusory OU, because of the energy needed to create the magnet? To make sure I'm saying that intelligibly: does the energy needed to create a strong magnet exceed the amount of "OU" energy that comes back, i.e. from a Bedini design, etc? Bedini's designs are interesting to me because of the proposed coupling between chemical and ~magnetic operation - though, I still don't know enough about my above question to ground my sense of the Bedini matter. thanks Zak On Jul 6, 2007, at 8:42 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: R.C.Macaulay wrote: Paul wrote,, It sounds like it could be accelerated-- not sure. I'd be surprised if just anyone could build such a machine using any type of PM and expect "free energy." After glancing at some Perendev motor designs seemed clear it used the same Howdy Paul, "It sounds like"... I liked the sound effects too. Varoom!, IOW, I do not have time to analyze the machines rpm.
[Vo]:We are the Aliens
Vs, Hope this isn't considered to be to off-topic, but with our lists connection to antigrav tech I thought this piece would offer nice perspective to the sibling-discussion of alien life. This is, really, a tasty morsel of a read. I really think it put into perspective some of the subconscious expressions of humanity. http://viewzone.com/milkyway.html Zak
Re: [Vo]:Sprite Vortex
Nice, Terry, thanks. I've enjoyed the growing data in this area of phenomena. I'm looking forward to seeing how this will tie in with the gamma ray bursts that have also been recorded from storms. It seems obvious (now) that the high current of the bolt discharge would create a strong acceleration field. A more explicitly modeled mechanism will be exciting. Zak On Jun 23, 2007, at 9:08 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: Do you see a vort? http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/06/070619-sprites.html Terry
Re: [Vo]:Rife technology revisited?
Thanks for the references, all. Richard, enjoyed seeing the reporting on John's work. Zak On May 31, 2007, at 9:25 PM, Ron Wormus wrote: Jones, I still keep up with Vo though I don't post very often. I have spent quite a lot of time & effort experimenting with the RIFE effect over the last few years & come to the conclusion that there are real & verifiable biological effects from RF modulated plasmas. However, like LENR, replication is difficult & there is currently no good theory on how these low power long wave length (audio to ~100kHZ) modulated plasmas can selectively effect different organisms. The field is, pardon the pun, RIFE with lots of BS & claptrap, which tends to obscure the good work that is being done by a few researchers. Ron --On Thursday, May 31, 2007 7:54 PM -0700 Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Zac might want write to former Vo - Ron Wormus - who may still be tuned-in on occassion. Ron is/was very knowledgeable on the electronic aspects of this technology - at least insofar as testing the tubes with various gas fills under RF stimulation - he was more into looking for hydrino effects, but is probably conversant with the medical aspects. R.C.Macaulay wrote: http://www.wkyc.com/video/player.aspx?aid=35660&bw Howdy Zac, Another link Richard
[Vo]:Rife technology revisited?
I'm not a big Rife-head - perhaps someone here can offer perspective about whether this recent journal article is essentially confirming Rife / radionic methods. http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/full/64/9/3288 Specifies a method for destroying brain cancer tumors using AC fields in the sub-1kHz range Zak
Re: [Vo]: Water vortex footage
On Apr 16, 2007, at 1:48 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote: anyone had any luck hunting down a di gital version of the pöpel report? (Pöpel, Franz Rapport Berich über die Voruntersuchnungen mit Wendelrohren mit verschniedener Wandform International Report, Institut für Gesundheitstechnik, Institute of Technology in Stuttgart, 1952. I spent a while, and pestered many a librarian - some of whom for which English was not their first language. Two people searching the university of Stuttgart could not find it, and offered that it may have been lost. I've wondered if Callum Coats has an original, though I seem to remember discussing the matter with Curt Halberg and he offering that a copy wasn't in Coat's possession. I never received word from Jorg Schauberger. I would try him if I were to again be looking. Sadly, it didn't seem too unreasonable that a library would loose a copy of an old technical report, unpublished by formal journals. Still, it would be a notable loss in this case. Someone today will have to reproduce the work! Zak
Re: [Vo]: ORMES questions
Know who at U of M? Zak On Apr 2, 2007, at 7:32 AM, thomas malloy wrote: I had a serendipitous event last Thursday night. I met this Chem E. He was talking about remediating the waste out of a nickle mine. I mentioned ghost gold, he replied, ORMES. I mentioned Joe Champion's theories, he mentioned LENR. He knows about BLP too. I wanted to discuss the matter further, but he has a commitment to his partners. He did mention a theory of everything. I searched it, as far as I can tell, it applies to particle physics. He said that a researcher at the U of M is working on it.
[Vo]: Re: Di-Ozone
On Mar 18, 2007, at 5:13 AM, R.C.Macaulay wrote: Last year we tested a high speed water vortex inducer that produced a near perfect cylinder shaped vortex. This shape differs from a parabolic "tornado" shape we are all familar with. The cylinder shape has an "eyewall" like a hurricane. This cylinder shape permits a better examination of free electrons and a host of "rabbit holes" one can travel and become mis-directed. Richard, Any interesting observations? Zak
Re: [Vo]: Re: Di-Ozone
On Mar 17, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Well - the Ormus stuff and David Hudson, in particular, have been mentioned many times in the (far) past on vortex. Some of that Yea, I vaguely remember. A little secret; I transitioned to Vortex-L from Skeptics-L (was that what it was called?) around 1995. I thinks that about when it got going. I keep up intermittently. The exciton changes everything, and together with QM and the quasi- BEC (i.e. "RTT BEC" or room temperature transitory Bose Einstein Condensate) may end up validating parts of the Ormus concept - (and parts of LENR as well) who knows? I rarely am on the deep edge of particle physics, so thanks for these new leads. BTW - the Wiki entry on this subject (exciton) is woefully inadequate and misses much of the latest R&D which is largely being performed by such heavyweights as Intel, AMD and IBM-Almaden but with little in the way of published results. If not for my personal proximity to this area and having an associates who is at least tangentially involved with this R&D, it would be largely hidden from view. I'd love to hear a story or two, if you would / can. It'd be a great kick-start to more digging. Did you hear about the recent assert of a 'new state of matter'? http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-03/ns-hrf031407.php I talks about entangled electron fractional-spins. It's fun for me, because in my ignorant ideating ~1yr ago it occurred to me that we may be about to realize a 5th state of matter ("5th world", to quote the indigenous) that would be manifest of synchronization / entanglement. I wondered if ORME stuff may be related to this 'new' state of matter, but my models aren't sufficient yet. Zak
Re: [Vo]: Re: Di-Ozone
I built a trap version, and spent time looking at several demonstrated and proposed trap configurations (along with a host of testimonials from users). In the end, building a magnetic trap was the most satisfying route for me. The material that it collected was quite interesting, for a qualitative point of view. THe effect was more minimal that I would have wanted, which I felt stemmed from design - but it was 'attractive'. It has a very penetrating feeling to the skin that was a preferable experience. I would say that oral consumption of the liquid offered not much greater effect. Like I said, in the end I felt that the design itself was massively inefficient; and as well I didn't like the concept of taking lots of 'good' water and stripping the ORMEs from it for my own benefit - then dumping it back into the environment. Conceptually, it was a kind of sewage - but one that I didn't know how to 'compost' it so that nature would re-imbue it with ORMEs. Barring a vortex-based magnetic / mechanical separation design, the chemistry and ozonation methods are far more attractive to me. Zak On Mar 17, 2007, at 7:51 PM, thomas malloy wrote: Zachary Jones wrote: Funny that ORMUS comes up here - a nice emergence. I worked with Barry a while ago; even pitched the ozonation tech he is connected with at a DOE shindig in 2001. I have a giant poster session in a closet somewheres. Seems like an age ago. Interesting post Zachary. I have posted Barry's website on this list in the past. He was doing an emailing list. There were some people locally who had purchased his traps and were collecting the material in question, ORMES. I haven't heard from him, or them lately, are the traps still available? I assume that you've purchased one of the traps? OTOH, I know what happens when you assume. Did you collect any of the ORMES material? Did you test it? Did you ingest it? Did it affect your health? --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http:// www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---
Re: [Vo]: Re: Di-Ozone
Funny that ORMUS comes up here - a nice emergence. I worked with Barry a while ago; even pitched the ozonation tech he is connected with at a DOE shindig in 2001. I have a giant poster session in a closet somewheres. Seems like an age ago. Even back then they were pretty hush-hush about the exact nature of the tech. If we reminisced long enough, and I dug deep enough, I could probably turn up notes or such from my conversations with him. Intuition tells me, though, that not enough info was named to reproduce a mechanism (why, anyway? if there's value here then, all parties interested in the best for things, should be able to cooperate) They were on the down-low about it because it had produced the first ORMUS-like material, but because of a lack of controls had also poisoned one of the inventors. Barry's bio talks about it a bit, here: http://www.subtleenergies.com/ORMUS/tw/ barrybio.htm (maybe this is not news, here) These are definitely the wilds of new science. People are being affected in dramatic ways, and none of it is turning into formatted science, yet. C.F. this statement: "We believe that our ozone generator is producing significant amounts of O6 or diozone." I love this community, and statements like this drive me nuts. If quantities of O6 are getting produced, and it's such a unique and interesting substance, then there are ways to make happen known- reliable test for O6 levels. Zak On Mar 16, 2007, at 6:03 AM, R.C.Macaulay wrote: Howdy Jones, You amaze me with your ability to stretch the elastic of the mind. One must eat a heartly breakfast and tighten the safety belt before launching into one of your posts that can range from rail guns to Ormus... and that is a stretch. Now that light has been accepted as having "particle" or "weight", it can be taken to the next step and think of light having "projectile force" qualities. A rail gun projectile would not necessarily require a socalled "mass" ( I have always been abhorred by the term mass). A better constructed railgun would fire a " projectile of light"... hmmm.. a strange beasty indeed.. Why so ? Because the projectile could be " tuned" to either/or focus or impact. Strange account of a battle predicted centuries ago where the flesh,eyes and tongue will rot while they are still standing ( bones remain) Zec: 14. This description seeems to indicate a type of a ray gun, however, the projectile does not knock the person off their feet.. only dissolves the flesh. You referred to Barry Carter's Subtleenergy website that mentions a new method of producing O3 and O6 but does not describe the process. He does describe the healing qualities of vortex induced ormus water. Reminds me of the account of the angel that would "stir" or "trouble" the waters in the pool. Whoever would be the first sick person to enter the pool thereafter would be healed. If the "stirring" means inducing a water vortex and only the first person would be healed, could this mean the vortex was destroyed by entering the pool and the residual remains of the vortex properties dissappear? Out in the wildwood behind the Dime Box Saloon lurks an old whisky still left over from the old days. The tale goes that sippin some that " thinkin drinkin" stuff could make a person believe the earth was flat. Richard
Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
If I had time now, or resources, to contact them in the interest of mutually beneficial work, such would inevitably be part of my communication. Good work would be done given support to facilitate it. Zak On 3/15/2007, "R.C.Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Howdy Zac, > >The links you gave for Texas A&M research in two phase separation shows that >Aggies are beginning to learn how to attract research money... err.. well.. >maybe after they learn how to spell " seperate" . > I don't know any of these guys but if you do, you may mention they can >contact me regarding their water in space recovery system . They will need >to add "shapes" inside the cyclone separator to produce " sympathetic" >vortexes to position the gas and solids for extraction in a zero grav >regime. >Suspect the project they are working on is mostly for a search for the next >funding stage. Have to remember how NASA has morphed . > >Richard > >
Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
On 3/15/2007, "R.C.Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Zachary Wrote.. > >>Have you ever talked with any of the TExas A&M boys working on NASA's >vortex phase separator? > >No I have not. Tell me something about it or the people involved. > > The project director is Fred Best, who is a nuclear engineer with a focus in multi-phase flows. http://nuclear.tamu.edu/home/people/faculty/best/index.php Their work is with a a cylinder that injects a moist vapor / liquid froma tangent and sucks it out a port in the botom-center of the cylinder. A vortex flow forms in the process and they study it to understand phase transport effects (how stuff separates) in Zero-G. The system particularly focuses on liquid / gas separations. It system is on track for integration into NASA's "Immobilized Microbe Microgravity Water Processing System" (IMMWPS), for sustained living in space. It only works in microgravity Most of their work was done aboard parabolic trajectory planes. The work was done through his Interphase Transport Phenomena Laboratory http://itp.tamu.edu/ The only papers put out are from the ITP lab manager, Cable Kurwitz. I get the impression that the work they did was 'frozen' so it could enter NASA's pipeline to get flown. I've never spoken with Best or Kurwitz, though, so I can't comment on whether they've stalled recently, or are just in a holding pattern. Best also launched the Center for Space Power, which does a bunch of corporate stuff http://engineer.tamu.edu/tees/csp/index.html If I had to wager somewhere, I'd say Best's recent time in this area has been spent working with industry - even beyond the CSP >>thanks for the EDAV link, it's cute. > >Kim's EDAV has some ideas.. not to be discounted.. he has some people that >he claims has a working Implosion device.. he's been working on it long >enough but health has sidetracked him. > Hopefully he'll make more strides. What kind of 'implosion device'? That has been used to name a range of mechanisms. Zak
Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
Richard, In case you missed it, the one paper dealt with aspects of O6 structure and formation that seemed somewhat independent of environment. Admittedly, the papers are tiny pieces of the bigger puzzle... Have you ever talked with any of the TExas A&M boy working on NASA's vortex phase separator? thanks for the EDAV link, it's cute. Zak On 3/15/2007, "R.C.Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Zac wrote.. > >>Here are some studies dealing with O6, from our fancy >library: > >http://www.newalexandria.org/images/O6_studies.zip > >>Perhaps Richard, or someone else in Dime Box Texas, will have time to >pull out something useful from them. I only searched Elsevier briefly, >there are more extensive chem databases > > >Thanks Zac, > This paper resulted from a research grant by the Air Force and a China >University and relates to SO2 high altitude air quality particulates >involving S6 and inversely to O6. Their work is centered on air pollution >whereas our work is in disinfection of water using mixed oxidants including >O3. > Fortunately, Dime Box Texas lost out some years ago to College Station >Texas ( Texas A&M) so seldom is heard a discouraging word except for the >occasional broken mirror in the saloon when some drunk starts discussing >politics. > >Richard > >
Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
The original version of this mail got lost a few days ago. (I tried to attach the PDFs) Here are some studies dealing with O6, from our fancy library: http://www.newalexandria.org/images/O6_studies.zip Perhaps Richard, or someone else in Dime Box Texas, will have time to pull out something useful from them. I only searched Elsevier briefly, there are more extensive chem databases Zak On 3/12/2007, "R.C.Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >- Original Message - >From: "Michel Jullian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 3:20 AM >Subject: Re: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation > > >>> We have some experience in industrial size ozone generating systems in the >>> 1000PPD and above range. >> >> What's a PPD? > Ozone gas is measured in pounds per day .. PPD >> >>> Ozone gas is so stubborn that it resists mixing with water, the residual >>> properties are >>> extremely short lived and it is deadly. >> >> Not deadly (I read somewhere that no casualty has ever been attributed to >> ozone), but it's very painful if you inhale too much of it, very much like >> inhaling bleach, no wonder it has a similar effect on microorganisms. > >Very deadly.. a extreme oxidant. >> >> How is the ozone laden air pressurized in the industrial units you're using, >> air pump upstream of the ozone generation I imagine? And what's the >> operating principle of the O3 generator itself, is it the AC operated glass >> tube type? > >The incoming air is compressed, chilled and dried. The air enters the electric >arc chambers 8" diameter pipe runs( depending on type) and mixed into the main >process water . The air handling systems can be pressured or vacuum. > >> >>> Somewhere lurking in the back of my mind is an idea for using O6 as a >>> "grease" to slide the O3 >>> into the water molecule.. I know, Yes , I know it can't be done because O6 >>> may not be O6.. hmmm. >>> But if it is.. and it can be "borrowed" while it's extremely short life is >>> around to argue the point.. >>> it may be possible to " fold" the two into water before O6 catches on .. by >>> using a form of velocity >>> shear upwards to 150f/s periphical velocity of a parabolic segment shaped >>> "knife". >> >> I doubt this makes the slightest sense to anyone except perhaps yourself, >> but hey this is Vortex :) >> > >Hey ! You're not in Kindergarten.. Vortex is for people with some elastic > in their minds. > >>> We have been successful using this method for oxidation systems but O3 >>> alone doesn't want to play >>> fair. Microwave may be the trigger to generate O3 and O6 in the actual >>> water process stream and have >>> the mixing as a function of the O3 generating process. We have had our >>> Gasmastrrr units returned for >>> service that have the UHMW rotating member >> >> What's this, your tank-bottom ozonized air bubbler? > > See .. www.gasmastrrr.comThe gas is discharged into large mixing tanks > filled with water. The off-gas ozone that fails to mix is either recycled or > is destroyed so Michel doesn't learn the hard way that the stuff can kill ya. > >> >>> shot with electro-chem pitting >> >> Chem pitting more likely. I guess you mean electro-chem like pitting? > > Electro-chem pitting description covers a range.. strange to see the > results.. if you ever saw the results of propeller or pump impeller > cavitation you would understand. >> >>> that is a form of SL cavitation. >> >> What's this ? > Here goes sonolumeniscense.. long for SL.. >> >>> Ultra high molecular weight polyethelene "does not pit".. we all know that. >> >> Very few materials are ozone resistant Richard. Have you checked the ozone >> resistance of this particular PE? > >Re-check you data.. excellent resistance to O3 at below 120 degrees.. > maybe some swelling at 140 degrees. > >> Also some materials catalyze ozone destruction (reversal to O2), such >> materials in your ozonized air circuit would result in not much ozone >> reaching the water you want to treat. >> >> Michel >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "R.C.Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:25 AM >> Subject: [VO]:Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation >> >> >> Blank >> Michael wrote.. >> >>>Are you into the design of an ozonizer Richard? >> >> Zachary wrote.. >>>Would you be unveiling a master plan to mention what you need that a >> commercial ozone unit won't provide? >> >> >> We have some experience in industrial size ozone generating systems in the >> 1000PPD and above range. The problems, the maintenance and the trouble >> mixing ozone beg for better technology. It seems that microwave may have >> some application considering the huge transformer banks required to boost >> voltage for the present technology, plus the problems with drying the air or >> the dangers of using pure oxy. Ozone gas is so stubborn that it resists >
[Vo]: Re: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
Both studies sent deal with ozone production in a controlled air space, then extrapolate it to the upper atmosphere. Many commercial ozone producers for water purification feed the produced gased through the water in a way that encourages mixing. Would you be unveiling a master plan to mention what you need that a commercial ozone unit won't provide? Zak
Re: [Vo]: Ozone and isotopes of O by microwave exitation
http://www.springerlink.com/content/l36272x3106h58p5/ http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1991SvJPP..17.1159S On 3/11/2007, "R.C.Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >BlankHowdy Vorts, > >I cannot find the source, but I recall reading somewhere that experiments >using microwave have produced ozone gas and isotopes of Oxygen up to O7. >Anyone know about such a process ? > >
Re: Organic Electricity
Reading this and similar reports, I get the same feeling I did when I first was exposed to Reich's work. The feeling has been the same every time I've seen work in this vein: What is the characteristic of impact that will occur to the ecosystem? If we are drawing electricity / energy that is being brought about via the ecosystem, then what how will drawing that potential off impact it? it seems like it will be a "lower-profile" impact that will thus occur over a longer space of time. This could minimize impact, though make measuring footprint more difficult. It would be nice to think that this perspective would invigorate a new direction of systems reserach and make us more conscious of the way things work. The unfortunate alternative is that we arrive at another critical limit as we are now with coal pollution - with people outraged at the energetic vampirism that we would then be wreaking upon the planet. other perspectives? Zak Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > http://www.automotive.com/features/90/auto-news/17333/index.html > > "MagCap Engineering, LLC Announces 'Free' Unlimited Energy Source > Developed That Draws Power from the Environment > CANTON, Mass., Dec. 20 /PRNewswire/ -- An alternative electric power > generating system that draws energy from a seemingly unlikely yet > abundant, eminently renewable and virtually free power source has been > submitted for patenting by MagCap Engineering, LLC, Canton, Mass., in > collaboration with Gordon W. Wadle, an inventor from Thomson, Ill. > > Wadle has invented a way to capture the energy generated by a living > non- animal organism -- such as a tree." > > > ___ > Try the New Netscape Mail Today! > Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List > http://mail.netscape.com > > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: ERWIN Rommel
Quoting Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [snip] > Virginia . . . Sometimes there is only a paper-thin difference between a > hero and a villain. > > - Jed > I suppose Rommel, Eisenhower and Lee all are excellent examples of the principle of: General Relativity -Zak This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
DHO quantities in atmosphere
A recent news article on neutron emissions from lightning, and deuterium in the atmosphere. Thought some here would be interested. http://www.sciscoop.com/story/2005/9/13/132425/338 Z On Sep 15, 2005, at 9:16 AM, RC Macaulay wrote: Michael, Some time back our company worked up a series of schematics for a presentation on proposed solar "hot plates" that could be used in 3rd world countries for a " combo" cooking and distilling water. The idea is actually a takeoff of a " Mr. Coffee" type electric perculator. The setup included a solar collector, a ceramic hotplate fixed in a salt eutectic bed ,a steam still ,a non potable water tank and a potable water tank. The whole unit portable that unfolds from a suitcase type container. Some 3rd world countries have depleted thier source of firewood and/ or lack potable water supplies. We were working with a world missions program group that forecast a demand in the millions of units provided the cost could be below $ 50.00 US. The whole project got sidelined while trying to locate a source of inexpensive fresnel lense materials. "Bingo" !! up step Michael. I have a full time research project going at present but if you are interested I can fax you the schematics and put you in touch with the interested parties, They operates similar to the Livingwaters charitable waterwell drilling people in Africa and remote areas on earth. Richard