Re: [Vo]: Electrostatic Tornadoes and Hurricanes?

2021-09-09 Thread Robin
In reply to  Ron Wormus's message of Thu, 9 Sep 2021 17:09:57 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
>Robin,
>Winds are calm in the eye of a hurricane. Highest speeds are on the outside.
>Ron

Note that I said "eye wall", not "eye".
It's in the "eye wall" that wind speeds are at a maximum.

>
>- Original Message -
>From: Robin 
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>Sent: 9/9/2021 3:12:40 PM
>Subject: Re: [Vo]: Electrostatic Tornadoes and Hurricanes?
>
>
>
>In reply to  Michael Foster's message of Thu, 9 Sep 2021 18:23:00 + (UTC):
>Hi,
>[snip]
>
>I suspect he had it backwards. The high wind speeds in the eye wall create 
>friction between particles which gives rise
>to charge separation. Falling raindrops carry charge to the ground creating 
>the potential difference that gives rise to
>lightning.
>Thunder produces shock waves in the air that drive smaller droplets together 
>creating larger droplets that fall more
>readily.
>
>>Decades ago, Alfred Baez (physicist and father of Joan) proposed that 
>>hurricanes and/or tornadoes might be electrostatically driven. The idea being 
>>that the charge imbalance between the periphery and the center might drive 
>>the vortex. Yes folks, I'm posting something about vortices here on Vortex. 
>>When you observe all the lightning at the center of hurricanes and tornadoes, 
>>it sort of makes sense.
>>
>>Recently, the UAE has been using electrostatic drones as a method of seeding 
>>clouds, significantly increasing the rainfall in that desert area. So if AB 
>>was correct, might it be possible to weaken or completely eliminate these 
>>storms by flying a fleet of these electrostatic drones around the edge of the 
>>hurricane/tornado and slowly work toward the center?
>>
>>I mean, if you're going to throw a lot of gubmint money at something, this 
>>has the potential to save a lot of lives, property, and tax dollars.
>Regards,
>
>Robin van Spaandonk 
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk 



Re: [Vo]: Electrostatic Tornadoes and Hurricanes?

2021-09-09 Thread Ron Wormus
Robin,
Winds are calm in the eye of a hurricane. Highest speeds are on the outside.
Ron

- Original Message -
From: Robin 
Reply-To: 
To: 
Sent: 9/9/2021 3:12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Electrostatic Tornadoes and Hurricanes?



In reply to  Michael Foster's message of Thu, 9 Sep 2021 18:23:00 + (UTC):
Hi,
[snip]

I suspect he had it backwards. The high wind speeds in the eye wall create 
friction between particles which gives rise
to charge separation. Falling raindrops carry charge to the ground creating the 
potential difference that gives rise to
lightning.
Thunder produces shock waves in the air that drive smaller droplets together 
creating larger droplets that fall more
readily.

>Decades ago, Alfred Baez (physicist and father of Joan) proposed that 
>hurricanes and/or tornadoes might be electrostatically driven. The idea being 
>that the charge imbalance between the periphery and the center might drive the 
>vortex. Yes folks, I'm posting something about vortices here on Vortex. When 
>you observe all the lightning at the center of hurricanes and tornadoes, it 
>sort of makes sense.
>
>Recently, the UAE has been using electrostatic drones as a method of seeding 
>clouds, significantly increasing the rainfall in that desert area. So if AB 
>was correct, might it be possible to weaken or completely eliminate these 
>storms by flying a fleet of these electrostatic drones around the edge of the 
>hurricane/tornado and slowly work toward the center?
>
>I mean, if you're going to throw a lot of gubmint money at something, this has 
>the potential to save a lot of lives, property, and tax dollars.
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk 



[Vo]: Electrostatic Tornadoes and Hurricanes?

2021-09-09 Thread Michael Foster
Decades ago, Alfred Baez (physicist and father of Joan) proposed that 
hurricanes and/or tornadoes might be electrostatically driven. The idea being 
that the charge imbalance between the periphery and the center might drive the 
vortex. Yes folks, I'm posting something about vortices here on Vortex. When 
you observe all the lightning at the center of hurricanes and tornadoes, it 
sort of makes sense.

Recently, the UAE has been using electrostatic drones as a method of seeding 
clouds, significantly increasing the rainfall in that desert area. So if AB was 
correct, might it be possible to weaken or completely eliminate these storms by 
flying a fleet of these electrostatic drones around the edge of the 
hurricane/tornado and slowly work toward the center?

I mean, if you're going to throw a lot of gubmint money at something, this has 
the potential to save a lot of lives, property, and tax dollars.



Re: [Vo]: Electrostatic Tornadoes and Hurricanes?

2021-09-09 Thread Robin
In reply to  Michael Foster's message of Thu, 9 Sep 2021 18:23:00 + (UTC):
Hi,
[snip]
 
I suspect he had it backwards. The high wind speeds in the eye wall create 
friction between particles which gives rise
to charge separation. Falling raindrops carry charge to the ground creating the 
potential difference that gives rise to
lightning.
Thunder produces shock waves in the air that drive smaller droplets together 
creating larger droplets that fall more
readily.

>Decades ago, Alfred Baez (physicist and father of Joan) proposed that 
>hurricanes and/or tornadoes might be electrostatically driven. The idea being 
>that the charge imbalance between the periphery and the center might drive the 
>vortex. Yes folks, I'm posting something about vortices here on Vortex. When 
>you observe all the lightning at the center of hurricanes and tornadoes, it 
>sort of makes sense.
>
>Recently, the UAE has been using electrostatic drones as a method of seeding 
>clouds, significantly increasing the rainfall in that desert area. So if AB 
>was correct, might it be possible to weaken or completely eliminate these 
>storms by flying a fleet of these electrostatic drones around the edge of the 
>hurricane/tornado and slowly work toward the center?
>
>I mean, if you're going to throw a lot of gubmint money at something, this has 
>the potential to save a lot of lives, property, and tax dollars.
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk